Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[Chikan]

Dirty Pervert,
Who would want to do that? Yuck!!!!!!!!!!!! "Dirty".......

[Julytien]

Originally posted by Teazian
Hi Julytien,
Any good plan for HCM? I will be in HCM on the 9/2 to 9/4. I will be staying at the Renaissance Riverside

Yup will be able to meet up, got my ticket extension, but possibly not on the 9/2 as its national day, may have plans, send me an email, although I know alot more about the food scene, in Ho Chi Minh than the 'underground' sex scene.

[Dirty Pervert]

to anyone, whos into watching doing what women do naturally, can do so, at lucky plaza, with the minimart upstairs being closed, you can now sneak into the ladies toilets, i find that the middle cubicle is best for, watching them [CodeWord134], as their is a slight hole, and you can see everything going on, even manage to see one chick giving herself 'stress relief'

[M_Charlus]

Thanks for all the reports here. I will be in a position to contribute, because I will be in HCM in about a week. If anyone is there on the ground and wants to get together for a beer, email me: my handle at yahoo.

Later!

[Asiaphile]

This forum is rather weak (unfortunately!) when it comes to consistent, reliable info on VN - IMO. The same could be said about Cambodia as well to name yet another heap of mostly mindless banter. I suppose on such a large site some useful, up to date info can be found on a few countries from time to time. In that regard, it seems much of the info on China here at wsgforum.com is relatively good (and I'm sure at a few others I rarely click on). The old site under "Atta" was full of FAR more thorough, credible, well written travel reports all across the planetary spectrum. This has nothing to do with "Jackson," just the general downward drift in quality for whatever reason, made up of too much flaming, jokesters, juveniles, amateurs, etc. Again, I don't mean to point fingers at anyone or hurl any unintended insults. I'm simply trying to present facts based on my personal observations after a decade of travel around VN and nearly a decade checking out this growing more silly by the day site. Probably the best VN nightlife info on the web if I haven't mentioned it before is at forums.************.com/vietnamfun/messages

[Teazian]

Originally posted by asiaphile
The Riverside (both versions!) are owned by the CORRUPT COMMIES as is of course Majestic, Sofitel, New World, Caravelle, and all the other stupid govt/andor joint venture 3-4-5 star jokes you guys w/o a clue continue to blindly fall into. Paying $20-$30-$50 for a stupid HJ is further evidence of absolute ignorance of the scene in VN! Paying $50-$100 or more for a hotel that's not guest friendly is ridiculous IMO. Again, there are dozens of hotels that are very nice tourist class (around 2 star @ about $20) that have virtually all the aminities of the overpriced govt/jv hotels and ARE GUEST FRIENDLY. Unfortunately, this mindless largesse makes you a danger to yourself but more importantly a danger to us who know the real score as you GROSSLY OVERPAY and continuosly ruin the fun for those who follow behind you.

Thanks for your feedback.
I'm travelling most of the times for business, and therefore I use to stay with the Marriott's hotels as we have a corporate rate and it's a company policy. But of course, whatever we do in the night is on our own expenses and we care for.
In the other hand, I believe that we are all professional people in this forum, or at least the majority of us, and not politicians. So commies or not commies, it doesn't matter much as long as our operations in Asia can bring revenue and profit to company or our own business.
I appreciate much comments from everyone but not insult.
But it would be another story when we travel for our own pleasure. And for pleasure only, I don't think that I would apreciate much going to HCM city. Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia are still my favorite places.

[Wolf]

Asiaphile,
You are certainly right in your comment and I know I am paying way too much even though it sounds cheap. But this is why this forum exists : to provide information on where to find and what to pay. And this is why I posted a request for this type of information.
Request to which I would have immediatly answered would this have been posted and requested for Japan, Shanghai or Korea where I have most of my connections and could lead anyone to better and cheaper fun.
But as I posted, no one answer.
So !....
Everywhere I go, I post comments and informations. Everytime I am requested to inform or orient, I do it. Thjis is why I joined the board.
And further to your comments, you should also take into account that some of us are travelling on business expenses. This does not mandatorily mean that we can spend what ever we want (actually my mongering spending comes from my own pocket) but it means it is difficult to explain both to our customers and mainly staff and bosses abroad that we are going for business getting down to what sounds like a second zone hotel in Ho Chi Min when all over the year we are welcomed in Sofitel, Hyatt, Marriott and the like. Understand that sometimes you cannot get off the road to obviously.
For the rest you are right once again. And I am eager to learn. Especially knowing that I am going to visit Vietnam regularly as from now.
All you advices and posts are warmly welcome.
Ready to help and teach also if you come to visit Shanghai, Tokyo or Seoul.
Best regards

Wolf

[Asiaphile]

The Riverside (both versions!) are owned by the CORRUPT COMMIES as is of course Majestic, Sofitel, New World, Caravelle, and all the other stupid govt/andor joint venture 3-4-5 star jokes you guys w/o a clue continue to blindly fall into. Paying $20-$30-$50 for a stupid HJ is further evidence of absolute ignorance of the scene in VN! Paying $50-$100 or more for a hotel that's not guest friendly is ridiculous IMO. Again, there are dozens of hotels that are very nice tourist class (around 2 star @ about $20) that have virtually all the aminities of the overpriced govt/jv hotels and ARE GUEST FRIENDLY. Unfortunately, this mindless largesse makes you a danger to yourself but more importantly a danger to us who know the real score as you GROSSLY OVERPAY and continuosly ruin the fun for those who follow behind you.

[Wolf]

Hello to all.
Was in Ho Chi Min by the final of last week and was looking for a nice place to have decent and happy ending massage.
As nobody provided info despite my request I decided to return to the Majestic where I had been treated very well 3 years ago.
Went there by 10 a.m. when the massage starts. Right before a business lunch appointment. Been assigned to a nice lady but older then I remembered. About 30 at least but still very decent looking. Very slim with rather large breast for the size of her body. And rather tall (about 170cm).
She asked me to get undressed and I obliged, getting all naked and showing her my good nature. She immediatly took the towel and wrapped me in, smiling nevertheless with a rather naughty eye.
She put me on the table and started to provide a rather average massage. On the other room (they are only separated by partition) another guy was having his own and was already at the negociation phase. Not too discreet though and his girl told him to only whisper.
Mine was rather active on my legs as I was lay down on my tummy. She was insisting on my up thigh and placing her hands and fingers at strategic positions.
When she asked me to turn around she managed to retain the towel so that I get all naked and she could see the effect she was doing on me. She smiled at me and came to whisper to my ear that I was very beautiful. I was pleased. She continued to massage my shoulder and came back to my ear and said that I was very strong and smiled at me.
Then she placed herself strategically and looked at me with very understandable hand signs and said looking at my little friend (not so little at that time) : do you want to continue the massage. Of course I wanted. She place gently her hand on my dick and balls, squeezed gently and then released. Went to take a piece of paper and wrote the price : US$60. I let her understood I found it too salty. She then gave me the paper and the pen. I wrote US$20. She wrote US$50. I shown her that for this price it had to be a blow job. She said no. She even mentionned that her boss does not allow (???). I then wrote US$30 and she smiled as I guess it was the price she was expecting. I probably paid too much as I remember it was bout 20 or 25 last time.
Anyway.
She went on the duty rather happily and provided a very decent hand job, making me unloading high and far. Actually it went on the partition at my shoulder level. She laughed as she had to clean it. Her fellow massagers, apparently not used to hear laughters from colleagues, asked her from the other rooms and she apparently explained what happenned as they all laughted. She started to real massage again but I got another hard on and she was looking at it smiling. I took her hand and started to masturbate. She whispered US$30 and I signed no with my head and she smiled and tried to take her hand off which I did not allow. She then obliged and finished the job quite satisfactorily, allowing me to place my hand in her panty and then to take her nice breast from her blouse and to play with them. She refused to kiss.
She then cleaned me and we could listen to another guy next door coming high and loud. Everybody laughed.
She took me to the shower room and I washed and then she helped me to dress. I give her the money plus a US$10 tip. She thanked me and asked me to come back and request her or indicate her to my friends.
Her name is Miss Lynn.
When I went out I crossed with a couple going for massage. For sure, Mrs was not knowing what Mr was going for. But by the smile he gave me, he knew very well.... I had the same experience 3 years ago when I went to this hotel with my wife. On Sunday morning we wenmt to the pool and she decided for a massage. I decided to join.
And on the next room as she was, I had a cutie to provided me with a sarting of blow job and a very good hand job while making noises imitating massage so that my wife do not notice. That was perfect. So for the service than for the thrill and adrenaline.
At the exit door, I met with a splendid young viet who was waiting to be assigned to a massage. Definitely a 9 and much better loking than mine.
I surely wil have to come back soon.
Price was us$10 for the club. Not bad !

Cheers to all

Wolf

[Teazian]

Originally posted by asiaphile
Not to be nosey... but the Riverside is owned by the local Peoples Committee of the Communist Party.

I'm not sure but there are 2 hotels next to each other. One is called Riverside, the other is called Renaissance Riverside which is managed by Marriott. So, which one belongs to the PC ?
How about the Sofitel ?

[Julytien]

went to lei lai sauna last night, this place is not too bad at all. get undressed put my stuff in the locker, and open the door to be greeted by a hideous sight: a load of japanese men, getting out of the bath naked. quickly avert eyes to celing, shoes, side anywhere but not straight ahead, hope your not as unlucky as me. ask the attendant that i would like to have a massage, get shown to the waiting room, nice selection of newspapers and magazines, and television to watch too, although the sound is turned off, order a drink and sit back and relax, wait quite a long time, a little cute masseur comes into the waiting room, hope i'm her next customer. after a further wait, i am finally taken to one room, guess its best to go in the afternoon when its not so busy. its not the girl i wanted, maybe i should have ask the bar woman, when i saw the girl, the girl i get isnt that nice at all, but then again with these massage places, you hardly get to see the person, with your face lying down, for such a long time, she gives me a massage. and then its time to turn around, actually shes not as bad as first seems, well she does the usual stuff, then asks me if i would like a vietnamese special, but i have to tip me fifty bucks, shes not joking neither, get the price down to twenty bucks, which is still very expensive, for what i got a hj, and a fingering her pussy, she says no to sucking or getting on top, actually i decide to touch her, shorts first, then thought hell if shes letting me do this i may as well go in deeper. going in deeper was like peeling back an onion, she had a skirt, shorts and then underwear, she covers the light with a towel, dunno why, cos all she needs to do is use the dimmer switch, well i'm pretty certain, fs goes on in this place, you just need to find a willing girl, or up your 'tips' but for a few moments pleasure, i would rather chose a girl from catwalk, that way i know that i can have her for the whole night, not just a few hours of fun, so my next report will be either about catwalk or a brothel.

[Asiaphile]

Not to be nosey... but the Riverside is owned by the local Peoples Committee of the Communist Party. It's not guest friendly unless you have inside connections I would not be aware of. Why do so-called smart WSG travelers to VN continue to use these pathetic, unfriendly govt owned or joint venture jokes? Especially since there are many (very nice) private mini hotels including some larger 2-star in the $20 range. Is it ignorance of what's actually available on the ground or ingnorance or govt vs private ownership? I've traveled widely across VN for over a decade and always stay at privately owned hotels which are totally guest friendly or have a very reasonable policy. Finally, I do not need the mafia touts, cyclo dregs or hondo om drunks. No, I do not trust them in general. Knowledge is power and especially in the Socialist Republic of VN.

[Julytien]

I went back to tams, for my dinner date, which didn't go as planned as she was busy working. She came into my room and apologized. I didnt get my regular girl, but got one that was built like and looked like a Russian discuss thrower. She finish the massage and left the place. We got on her bike, and was planning to go to sofitel for 'sushi dinner'. She got a call on the way, but she didnt answer it. Got her to drop me off at HSBC, she must have called the caller then, because she left me high and dry. When I directed her to park the scooter, said she was going home. Oh well, guess I'll ask my Honda om guy to take me to a brothel and not a massage place. I will let you know what happens soon.

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[Julytien]

Dear Teazian

I havent been anywhere much, discos dont really suit me as I hate the noise there, wont call it music, the stuff in catwalk is good to listen too, until about 9.00pm, then they change the style of music, was thinking of going to le lai sauna, as they should have some hot and willing chicks in there, considering its under the same management, I'm going to ask a honda om guy to take me to a brothel soon, I dont think we can meet up as I will be leaving soon, if I am unable to get an extension on my plane ticket. If I can I'll let you know, you can get in touch with me at luongcam@hotmail.com.

[Teazian]

Originally posted by Julytien
Never mind reading the articles guys, can anyone get their hands on these fabled films? We would worship you.

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Hi Julytien,
Any good plan for HCM ?
I will be in HCM on the 9/2 to 9/4 .
I will be staying at the Renaissance Riverside