Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[Captain Solo]

Follows is a quick and crude analysis of the cost of sex compared to basic meals in countries using most likely costs:

Thailand's FIWFANS prices 1,000 Bahts per pop even seem high for locals, considering a good lunch in most places, including Terminal 21 food court, costs only 50 Bahts. That's 20 meals for a pop with a girl in bed.

In Tijuana Mexico, a basic meal costs 75 pesos. Lots of street girls will do half hour sessions for 500 pesos, HK bar girls, 2400 pesos, so 6 meals for street pussies and 45 meals for clubs'. Mexican club pussies are way inflated to ridiculous levels. You don't want to have to skip 45 meals in 30 days just to poke a club girl. Mexico would be the cheapest if you just stick with street pussies, some are very nice, sweet, good-looking.

In US a McDonalds meal will cost $12. You can find street girls in LA for $100, Asian massage or escorts $120, so 10 meals for a fuck. US sex market is illegal, not efficient and in your face, but even with relentless raids, stings, arrests by LEs, it's still the cheapest relative to basic costs of living.

Prices on FIWFANS is not "very cheap", its what thais themselves pay. If you think that the prices you pay in a gogo bar is what thaimen pay then you are misinformed. What you pay for ST in a gogo is what you can pay here in western european countries. You should also keep in mind that in the price you see on fiwfans, the "barfine" is included in the price. The women pay 300-400 to the agency.

For 30+ ladies that is average looking thais pay around 700 baht for a visit in the appartment / hotell room and cum one time.

[Captain Solo]

Nice, clean hotels in Bui Vien Back Packers district and District 8 Hoe Central are about $10-15. GAITO. ORG girls are from $8 to 40. Thai girls go from $30 in FIWFANS to $200 at gogos and bars.

Food availability is poorer and more expensive compared to Thailand, noodle soups are $2 to 3. Pho Bien $10 AYCE grilled steak and seafood is very good. Quan 45 had delish food with beer girls company (bia om) about $10 a head.

In Bangkok lots of noodle and grilled meats shops, many in Terminal 1 Food court, sell huge varities of food, drinks, fruits, most charge 25 K Bahts or $0. 75 a noodle bowl. A dozen Mookatas AYCE wagu beef for $12. Best Beef on Sukh Soi 55, $10 AYCE beef and seafood. Mungkorn AYCE seafood on Sukh 45 $10 with live prawns.

How are the costs of rooms, food and girls there compared to those in Thailand?

[KrumeLurer]

So would you say generally fiwifans is worth the effort? Thought a bit like TF, dodgy at best. Prices on FIWIFANS seem very cheap? Semi pros?

Any thoughts appreciated.

NI.

Prices on FIWFANS is not "very cheap", its what thais themselves pay. If you think that the prices you pay in a gogo bar is what thaimen pay then you are misinformed. What you pay for ST in a gogo is what you can pay here in western european countries. You should also keep in mind that in the price you see on fiwfans, the "barfine" is included in the price. The women pay 300-400 to the agency.

For 30+ ladies that is average looking thais pay around 700 baht for a visit in the appartment / hotell room and cum one time.

[Captain Solo]

FIWIFANS is defnitely worth it.

I had many wonderful sessions with beautiful girls in their nice, clean hotel rooms. They do exactly what they advertise and I always get appointments quickly. All girls look very close to their pics. There were no haggling or headaches. They are like semi pros, more real, less hardened and manipulative than bar girls.

Look at Nong Nicha, a classy and very beautiful girl with all natural assets, no blemishes, speaks English, nice, fun as hell, like a real GF. I took a canal boat from Soi 5 to soi 55, walked 2 small blocks to her hotel, 40 minutes only 1300 be or $40. She wants 5000 be or $140 to spend all night with me OTC. I will visit her every time I am in BKK.

Bar and Gogo girls look to plasticky, too fake, act too manipulative for my taste. FIWFANS is my favorite venue in Thailand.

So would you say generally fiwifans is worth the effort? Thought a bit like TF, dodgy at best. Prices on FIWIFANS seem very cheap? Semi pros?

Any thoughts appreciated.

NI.

[Captain Solo]

FIWIFANS is defnitely worth it.

I had many wonderful sessions with beautiful girls in their nice, clean hotel rooms. They do exactly what they advertise. There were no haggling or headaches. All girls look very close to their pics.

Look at Nong Nicha, a classy and very beautiful girl with all natural assets, no blemishes, speaks English, nice, fun as hell, like a real GF. I took a canal boat from Soi 5 to soi 55, walked 2 small blocks to her hotel, 40 minutes only 1300 be or $40. She wants 5000 be or $140 to spend all night with me OTC.

Bar and Gogo girls look to plasticky and too fake for my taste. FIWFANS.

So would you say generally fiwifans is worth the effort? Thought a bit like TF, dodgy at best. Prices on FIWIFANS seem very cheap? Semi pros?

Any thoughts appreciated.

NI.

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OTOH Thailand is wide open for comercial sex with excellent supply of girls and many venues, bars, streets, FIWFANS, dating sites. FIWFANS girls have been looking very close to their pics, would do exactly what they advertise and prices are about the same as VN with easy booking. I had some sweet and sexy sessions with beautiful FIWFANS girls.
Thailand wins in every way.

So would you say generally fiwifans is worth the effort? Thought a bit like TF, dodgy at best. Prices on FIWIFANS seem very cheap? Semi pros?

Any thoughts appreciated.

NI.

[Sammon]

Short answer is yes. Message me and I'll gladly connect a fellow senior.

Sent you a PM. Thanks.

[Exoticspirit]

How are the costs of rooms, food and girls there compared to those in Thailand?

[Captain Solo]

Youtube shows lots of girls sitting in front of massages touting guys, but almost all massages are BBBJ and HJ only. The few FS massages that I knew have been busted.

Lots of girls in GAITO. ORG advertise 20 K or $8ST. They are the lowest tier, older, heavier and not very attractive. You should insist on their ad prices and services. District 8 is nice, clean with hundreds love hotels in 2 or 3 small blocks, some are very nice. All day rates are anywhere $10-15. You can stay in a hotel and ask girls to come to you. There are lots of restaurants and street food in that area.

Pattaya and Bangkok are better organized with oversight, so there are less scams, baits and switches. Girls in Vietnam are mostly independents, more inclined to pull tricks against foreigners.

[Steve W]

Short answer is yes. Message me and I'll gladly connect a fellow senior.

Going to Ho Chi Minh City next month. Is it possible to get a girl to stay with me. It says Vietnamese girls are not allowed to stay with foreigners.

[Sammon]

Thanks for your opinion. I've seen videos of Vietnam red light areas and there seems to be enough girls sitting outside venues but don't know how prices compare to Thailand which is why it was interesting for you to bring up the claim of low prices in Vietnam. If I"m going to be in that part of the world anyway, I was thinking that I might as well check it out as a quick side trip but only if I'm not settiing myself for disappointment after Pattaya and Bangkok.

Going to Ho Chi Minh City next month. Is it possible to get a girl to stay with me. It says Vietnamese girls are not allowed to stay with foreigners.

[Exoticspirit]

The only reason is the novelty of unique Viet flavors and low prices. If you are not picky, you can stay in district 8 hooker district for cheap, bag girls for 200 K dong or $8, may be ten a night.

Prostitution is illegal in Vietnam, so supply is short. There are no upfront strip clubs and bars to find girls. The only lively venue is on line like GAITO. ORG, but recently I have found more than half of on line girls look far worse than pics with excessive touched ups, many would not do DFKs and other acts as advertised. Prices for top tiered on line girls are about the same or higher than those in Thailand.

Thailand wins in every way.

Thanks for your opinion. I've seen videos of Vietnam red light areas and there seems to be enough girls sitting outside venues but don't know how prices compare to Thailand which is why it was interesting for you to bring up the claim of low prices in Vietnam. If I"m going to be in that part of the world anyway, I was thinking that I might as well check it out as a quick side trip but only if I'm not settiing myself for disappointment after Pattaya and Bangkok.

[Captain Solo]

The only reason is the novelty of unique Viet flavors and low prices. If you are not picky, you can stay in district 8 hooker district for cheap, bag girls for 200 K dong or $8, may be ten a night.

Prostitution is illegal in Vietnam, so supply is short. There are no upfront strip clubs and bars to find girls. The only lively venue is on line like GAITO. ORG, but recently I have found more than half of on line girls look far worse than pics with excessive touched ups, many would not do DFKs and other acts as advertised. Prices for top tiered on line girls are about the same or higher than those in Thailand.

OTOH Thailand is wide open for comercial sex with excellent supply of girls and many venues, bars, streets, FIWFANS, dating sites. FIWFANS girls have been looking very close to their pics, would do exactly what they advertise and prices are about the same as VN with easy booking. I had some sweet and sexy sessions with beautiful FIWFANS girls.

Lots of hot girls work in gogo clubs and bars but prices are high. Most girls are heavily implanted, look too plasticky for my taste.

About 50 street girls work in Soi 4 every night, some hot, prices are low. I also find a few very attractive bar girls walk the sois whom can be picked up for OTC dates.

Thailand wins in every way.

[Captain Solo]

I don't see any problem. They would welcome your business.

If they give you any problem, find ways to solve it.

Thanks for the report. If I went solo, would I run into any problems? I'm a seasoned monger (USA, Japan, Cambodia, Ukraine, Mexico, Latvia).

[Exoticspirit]

I'm planning my trip to Thailand later this year and wanted to ask the guys who have experience in the mongering scene in both Thailand and Vietnam, what are reasons if any, that I should divide my travel time between Thailand and Vietnam? Should I stay in Thailand or make some time to come to Vietnam as well with regards to the mongering scene?