Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[MyAsset]

I am in Saigon right now and using WeChat, am able to connect with many (translate button helps!) but man!, it's a real pain to communicate.

Many offer massage but the regular girls, it's a different story.

Maybe I am a clutz.

Hi MK,

Thanks, yes I have about an 85% hit-rate once they come over to my house on the second date. (sample size about 60 in 7 years) As with all stats the devil is in the detail. If on the first date I think it is 100% not going to happen, then naturally we don't even get to a second date. In addition I should mention that my place is a 300 sqm modern nice house, and I think that helps quite a lot. All that I want to illustrate is that for the guy that has time and a good backstory, this place is a goldmine for regular girls.

My experience with English ability is that it can vary from intermediate to poor. If a girl hardly speaks any English I don't even go into the date routine though. I don't think it will differ on apps or on-line.

[JD468]

Nice post man.

So you are getting consistent lays on the 2nd date?

Seems to me it would be a little difficult to find girls that speak English without using online sites and apps. This has not been an issue for you?

Not sure if I will be able to pull it off or not. LOL.

Hi MK,

Thanks, yes I have about an 85% hit-rate once they come over to my house on the second date. (sample size about 60 in 7 years) As with all stats the devil is in the detail. If on the first date I think it is 100% not going to happen, then naturally we don't even get to a second date. In addition I should mention that my place is a 300 sqm modern nice house, and I think that helps quite a lot. All that I want to illustrate is that for the guy that has time and a good backstory, this place is a goldmine for regular girls.

My experience with English ability is that it can vary from intermediate to poor. If a girl hardly speaks any English I don't even go into the date routine though. I don't think it will differ on apps or on-line.

[Medellin Kuya]

Nice post man.

So you are getting consistent lays on the 2nd date?

Seems to me it would be a little difficult to find girls that speak English without using online sites and apps. This has not been an issue for you?

I added about 300 girls to my facebook from VietnameseCupid in just 2 weeks time. Probably have another 150 girls that simply just gave me their Viber number.

One 18 year old girl is sending me nudes and telling me all what she will do for me if I am her BF.

Can't wait to touch down in HCMC and get to work meeting women.

I am thinking to have 1 in city GF. 1 out of city GF I go visit once a week or so. Then one fuck buddy / friends with benefits in HCMC.

Not sure if I will be able to pull it off or not. LOL.

With the recent questions about how easy it is to get women in Vietnam to sleep with you, I thought I just jot down some of my more memorable non P4P experiences. I think that coming as a short time visitor to HCM it is unlikely that you will score with regular girls unless you are really quite good looking (which I am not), but if you have a few months, a good backstory, and a nice place to live, you can have an amount of beautiful girls your friends back home would not believe.

So, with this in mind, most girls I meet go through what I call "the 2 dates" When I see a girl and there is an opportunity to flirt I make some polite conversation and exchange numbers. (I am assuming there is a little connection here) The 1st date is in town, some food, drinks and and a nice kiss. The 2nd date is either at my house, or ends up at my house. There can be a variety of ways to engineer that, from having a swim to cooking for her. Once they get over the door threshold I have an 85% hit rate. There is no 3rd date unless she fucks or sucks on the 2nd date. I have never used an app to meet people, just old fashioned chasing skirt whilst you are out. Sometimes a little on-line playing around but that is more for when I am bored at work. It is my opinion that girls that are not on these apps or dating sites are much easier to persuade to do something or go out with you as they have very few interactions with foreigners and it is all much more exiting and novel. In addition it really pays dividend to look outside D1, and not in the bars. Yes you can pick up in bars too, but it is my experience that the real diamonds are found outside of the bars. You don't even need a lot of game, I don't have a lot and I still manage. Just make them laugh, as soon as you can make them laugh you are in there. Maybe not tonight, but certainly tomorrow. I tend to go for girls that are between 25 and 32. They are old enough to know what they want, but young enough to still have amazing bodies. Below are a few examples from the last 7 years.

Hanh, was the first girl I met in those early weeks at Apo (where else.). She was squirting all over the place every time we did it, but I am still not sure if she was just pissing on me or not. She said she was not a working girl and refused my money. But after 4 weeks her bike got "stolen" and a request for 30 million was duly made. Needless to say, that is where the relationship ended.

Thuy sold advertisement space for a radio station, and I instantly liked her when I met her at Lush. We hit it off and ended up meeting once a month for almost 2 years. In the early months I bungled her into a cab with 200 k and she was seriously pissed off that I treated her like a working girl. It is a shame her family shipped her off to the US, otherwise I would have still been in there (just once a month).

Yen, a manager at a local restaurant chain. She was 29 and a virgin. It was the only girl I had more patience with and she ended up sleeping at my place at least 5 or 6 times before she was ready to give it a go. I have never seen a girl that nervous, she was shaking so much I almost called it off. (almost mind you, but not quite) It was a shame she went so overwhelmingly lovey after that, it was suffocating me so I had to let her go.

Dung, who worked for a company that erects street lights all over Vietnam. She was from Chinese heritage and the only girl that brought a small toiletries bag to our first "date". That is exactly the sort of thing that gets me to like a girl, good on her, we had fun.

Ha, fluent in Japanese. She did make me laugh when she almost drowned whilst trying to pretend she could swim. We had a great sex session that evening, maybe because she had a near death experience? It appeared after that that we had little in common.

Jane Doe 1, she was a pharmacist at one of the main hospitals. One the second date she kept saying that her aim in life was to be a *****. I thought to myself, I don't want to go out with a *****, but I will fuck you tonight anyway given that this is the second date and I don't want my stats to drop. I think this was the only girl I have ever properly skull-fucked for about 45 minutes straight. Treating her like a ***** I guess.

Leaky, a professional party girl who I did end up supporting a little for about a year. We met at Apo and on the way back to my place she asked, can you fuck me 3 times tonight? I thought she was bullshitting me, I was wrong. It was the start of a long term relationship build on pure unadulterated dirty sex. I still can't believe we both did not understand where these yeast infections kept coming from. All men take note, if you have fucking sessions where you constantly switch from pussy to ass and back again, she will get yeast infections.

Kris, a Vietnamese holiday maker living in Europe full time. My first "tourist" and she was straight to the point. "Come to my hotel tonight and fuck me". Very nice indeed, but not a typical experience for Vietnam I should mention.

Thuy D2, I do not know anything about this girl, all I know is that she is 21 and lives somewhere in D2 where we were introduced by a mutual acquaintance. I texted her once every 2 months, we met at a mini hotel and fucked, after which we parted ways. She did not even seem to like it that much, and no money ever changes hands. (she seemed quite well off) She did not let me down in over 18 months of pleasure. Not sure if she does this to be "edgy" or what her angle is, but it worked for me.

Nhung, also known as nutcase girl. We met at the opening of a friends shop. She did look a bit fragile but very willing to come home straight away with me, so who was I to refuse? Big mistake! Two nights of fucking and she honestly thought we were getting married, which is crazy as that is not an angle I ever use. She was the only girl ever I had to tell to stay the fuck away from my house in no uncertain terms.

Ella from the Philippines, picked up at Starbucks. She was on her own for work in HCM for 2 weeks and wanted to get ravaged every night. I can see that things are more fun in the Philippines indeed.

Mai, working in a massage parlor, but she always refused tips and wanted to see me "outside". She had a healthy appetite for sex and was just honestly looking for a boyfriend. She was very emotionally needy so I had to pretend I was going back to Europe after a few months.

Phuong, a school teacher with a fetish for sucking dick. She only needed 1 date and immediately gave me her body. (then again she was not exactly a beauty) She was the only girl I ever met where you can feel your dick sliding properly down her throat. True blue deep throat with a very good suppression of gag reflexes. A skill indeed.

Phuong 2, she was one of very few people I met on-line. She wanted a baby, just a baby, nothing else needed as she was already married but had trouble conceiving. We met up a few times on exactly the right dates and a beautiful little boy was born. Needless to say I have not slept with her since, but I surely hope she will call me if she would like a second one. I wish her well.

Huong, was someone that was on the peripheral and just an acquaintance really. She was working for a coffee importer at the time when she found out her husband was cheating on her. I suggested she did the same to him, and quite by surprise she took me up on the idea. (This was not really a 2 dates kind of thing I guess).

Kim, a Filipino classroom assistant. We met at a bar and she was cute as a button. In true Filipino style she invited me over to her place that first evening, and we had a very nice few months until she got sacked and had to return home.

Thi, who works as a manager in a furniture factory. Again an introduction by a mutual friend, and she came home with me the first time we met. I am still seeing this girl once a week. She knows I am not husband material but she enjoys the once a week intimacy (and so do I).

These are just a few examples of what is out there. Its not easy, but the rewards can be incredible for people that have a bit of time. (I am sure many of you are smiling and agree) If you don't have time I recommend straight P4P in HCM, but to be frank there are better cities in Asia than HCM for P4P.

[JD468]

With the recent questions about how easy it is to get women in Vietnam to sleep with you, I thought I just jot down some of my more memorable non P4P experiences. I think that coming as a short time visitor to HCM it is unlikely that you will score with regular girls unless you are really quite good looking (which I am not), but if you have a few months, a good backstory, and a nice place to live, you can have an amount of beautiful girls your friends back home would not believe.

So, with this in mind, most girls I meet go through what I call "the 2 dates" When I see a girl and there is an opportunity to flirt I make some polite conversation and exchange numbers. (I am assuming there is a little connection here) The 1st date is in town, some food, drinks and and a nice kiss. The 2nd date is either at my house, or ends up at my house. There can be a variety of ways to engineer that, from having a swim to cooking for her. Once they get over the door threshold I have an 85% hit rate. There is no 3rd date unless she fucks or sucks on the 2nd date. I have never used an app to meet people, just old fashioned chasing skirt whilst you are out. Sometimes a little on-line playing around but that is more for when I am bored at work. It is my opinion that girls that are not on these apps or dating sites are much easier to persuade to do something or go out with you as they have very few interactions with foreigners and it is all much more exiting and novel. In addition it really pays dividend to look outside D1, and not in the bars. Yes you can pick up in bars too, but it is my experience that the real diamonds are found outside of the bars. You don't even need a lot of game, I don't have a lot and I still manage. Just make them laugh, as soon as you can make them laugh you are in there. Maybe not tonight, but certainly tomorrow. I tend to go for girls that are between 25 and 32. They are old enough to know what they want, but young enough to still have amazing bodies. Below are a few examples from the last 7 years.

Hanh, was the first girl I met in those early weeks at Apo (where else.). She was squirting all over the place every time we did it, but I am still not sure if she was just pissing on me or not. She said she was not a working girl and refused my money. But after 4 weeks her bike got "stolen" and a request for 30 million was duly made. Needless to say, that is where the relationship ended.

Thuy sold advertisement space for a radio station, and I instantly liked her when I met her at Lush. We hit it off and ended up meeting once a month for almost 2 years. In the early months I bungled her into a cab with 200 k and she was seriously pissed off that I treated her like a working girl. It is a shame her family shipped her off to the US, otherwise I would have still been in there (just once a month).

Yen, a manager at a local restaurant chain. She was 29 and a virgin. It was the only girl I had more patience with and she ended up sleeping at my place at least 5 or 6 times before she was ready to give it a go. I have never seen a girl that nervous, she was shaking so much I almost called it off. (almost mind you, but not quite) It was a shame she went so overwhelmingly lovey after that, it was suffocating me so I had to let her go.

Dung, who worked for a company that erects street lights all over Vietnam. She was from Chinese heritage and the only girl that brought a small toiletries bag to our first "date". That is exactly the sort of thing that gets me to like a girl, good on her, we had fun.

Ha, fluent in Japanese. She did make me laugh when she almost drowned whilst trying to pretend she could swim. We had a great sex session that evening, maybe because she had a near death experience? It appeared after that that we had little in common.

Jane Doe 1, she was a pharmacist at one of the main hospitals. One the second date she kept saying that her aim in life was to be a *****. I thought to myself, I don't want to go out with a *****, but I will fuck you tonight anyway given that this is the second date and I don't want my stats to drop. I think this was the only girl I have ever properly skull-fucked for about 45 minutes straight. Treating her like a ***** I guess.

Leaky, a professional party girl who I did end up supporting a little for about a year. We met at Apo and on the way back to my place she asked, can you fuck me 3 times tonight? I thought she was bullshitting me, I was wrong. It was the start of a long term relationship build on pure unadulterated dirty sex. I still can't believe we both did not understand where these yeast infections kept coming from. All men take note, if you have fucking sessions where you constantly switch from pussy to ass and back again, she will get yeast infections.

Kris, a Vietnamese holiday maker living in Europe full time. My first "tourist" and she was straight to the point. "Come to my hotel tonight and fuck me". Very nice indeed, but not a typical experience for Vietnam I should mention.

Thuy D2, I do not know anything about this girl, all I know is that she is 21 and lives somewhere in D2 where we were introduced by a mutual acquaintance. I texted her once every 2 months, we met at a mini hotel and fucked, after which we parted ways. She did not even seem to like it that much, and no money ever changes hands. (she seemed quite well off) She did not let me down in over 18 months of pleasure. Not sure if she does this to be "edgy" or what her angle is, but it worked for me.

Nhung, also known as nutcase girl. We met at the opening of a friends shop. She did look a bit fragile but very willing to come home straight away with me, so who was I to refuse? Big mistake! Two nights of fucking and she honestly thought we were getting married, which is crazy as that is not an angle I ever use. She was the only girl ever I had to tell to stay the fuck away from my house in no uncertain terms.

Ella from the Philippines, picked up at Starbucks. She was on her own for work in HCM for 2 weeks and wanted to get ravaged every night. I can see that things are more fun in the Philippines indeed.

Mai, working in a massage parlor, but she always refused tips and wanted to see me "outside". She had a healthy appetite for sex and was just honestly looking for a boyfriend. She was very emotionally needy so I had to pretend I was going back to Europe after a few months.

Phuong, a school teacher with a fetish for sucking dick. She only needed 1 date and immediately gave me her body. (then again she was not exactly a beauty) She was the only girl I ever met where you can feel your dick sliding properly down her throat. True blue deep throat with a very good suppression of gag reflexes. A skill indeed.

Phuong 2, she was one of very few people I met on-line. She wanted a baby, just a baby, nothing else needed as she was already married but had trouble conceiving. We met up a few times on exactly the right dates and a beautiful little boy was born. Needless to say I have not slept with her since, but I surely hope she will call me if she would like a second one. I wish her well.

Huong, was someone that was on the peripheral and just an acquaintance really. She was working for a coffee importer at the time when she found out her husband was cheating on her. I suggested she did the same to him, and quite by surprise she took me up on the idea. (This was not really a 2 dates kind of thing I guess).

Kim, a Filipino classroom assistant. We met at a bar and she was cute as a button. In true Filipino style she invited me over to her place that first evening, and we had a very nice few months until she got sacked and had to return home.

Thi, who works as a manager in a furniture factory. Again an introduction by a mutual friend, and she came home with me the first time we met. I am still seeing this girl once a week. She knows I am not husband material but she enjoys the once a week intimacy (and so do I).

These are just a few examples of what is out there. Its not easy, but the rewards can be incredible for people that have a bit of time. (I am sure many of you are smiling and agree) If you don't have time I recommend straight P4P in HCM, but to be frank there are better cities in Asia than HCM for P4P.

[KeenGerle]

I think we just have a different idea of difficulty. Yes many girls are not virgins, but most of them lost it with a BF. What I am saying is, I do not think VN is a place to go to looking for easy ONS with women. My impression is most (not all) girls are going to take a little time and some commitment before they are jumping in the sack with you. They are not like the Pinays that party and sleep with any Westerner on the first night.

I think VN is a great place to live or visit for a decent amount of time (2 weeks minimum preferably months). I would not want to come to VN on an extended weekend vacation looking to bang a lot of young tail. Talking about normal non pros.

Fully agree with Medellin Kuya, this is also my observation.

I come to HCM on a regular basis and getting them takes lots of catch-ups and "maintenance" messages (good morning, how was your night?, how did you sleep?, I miss you,.).

[Medellin Kuya]

Based on empirical evidences from my guy friends that travel punt and those that live here as well as myself. We have relationship with several girls from poor, middle and even wealthy class (smaller number) family throughout the years. And most were not virgins and most will give it up sooner than later. Sometimes as soon as 1st date. Sure most VN girls trained from early on to look for marriage as one of life's milestones and most do want to get there sooner than later. However, they none of the VN girls we collectively dated / fucked / etc (and those numbers in the 100's) say they want to save their virginity for marriage. So no, you don't have to be celeb to have success in VN at all. That's why we love it here and come back often (I average 4-5 trips a year to Saigon until I luckily landed job here).

I have some punter friends that still travel here once every 2 months. Would love to meet these VN virgins. That would be true novelty for all of us. Different interpretation / experience for different folks although I would say your situation is super unique. Based on your number of travels here versus my network of punters. I can again make that statement with authority.

I think we just have a different idea of difficulty. Yes many girls are not virgins, but most of them lost it with a BF. What I am saying is, I do not think VN is a place to go to looking for easy ONS with women. My impression is most (not all) girls are going to take a little time and some commitment before they are jumping in the sack with you. They are not like the Pinays that party and sleep with any Westerner on the first night.

I think VN is a great place to live or visit for a decent amount of time (2 weeks minimum preferably months). I would not want to come to VN on an extended weekend vacation looking to bang a lot of young tail. Talking about normal non pros.

[Ecchi]

1) 3) I am not sure where you get the liberal impression. Being a virgin and waiting for marriage is quite big here from everything I gather. The biggest of any country I've ever traveled to. Nothing like the Philippines where it is a given every girl I meet online and go on a night date with will fuck me that night.

4) Any Westerner / Foreigner is a Cassanova in Philippines. No one will be having that success in VN without being a celebrity or something.

Based on empirical evidences from my guy friends that travel punt and those that live here as well as myself. We have relationship with several girls from poor, middle and even wealthy class (smaller number) family throughout the years. And most were not virgins and most will give it up sooner than later. Sometimes as soon as 1st date. Sure most VN girls trained from early on to look for marriage as one of life's milestones and most do want to get there sooner than later. However, they none of the VN girls we collectively dated / fucked / etc (and those numbers in the 100's) say they want to save their virginity for marriage. So no, you don't have to be celeb to have success in VN at all. That's why we love it here and come back often (I average 4-5 trips a year to Saigon until I luckily landed job here).

I have some punter friends that still travel here once every 2 months. Would love to meet these VN virgins. That would be true novelty for all of us. Different interpretation / experience for different folks although I would say your situation is super unique. Based on your number of travels here versus my network of punters. I can again make that statement with authority.

[Medellin Kuya]

1. Marriage material. Most of the bros here are into punting and not looking for marriage. Definitely mongering joints are the worst possible place to find marriage partner.

2. Dating scene. Check out finding girls online section. Wechat and Zalo are good although you should be in non-touristy area. Otherwise you'll be bombarded by pimps). Vietnamcupid used to be better but still okay.

3. ONS (one night stand). Actually, Vietnamese are one of the most liberal in all of Asia (I don't really think of PH as Asian. They're a mixed of American and Spanish complete with stereotypical Catholic baggage) thanks to the French influence. The way to dress (flaunt it if you got it) to their pragmatic approach to sex. Sex after few dates are very possible based on personal experience. But then again. These are not the type you would want as long term GF or marriage partner right? ONS is possible but higher difficulty level.

4. Lesson. Your experience doesn't necessarily reflect reality. Just because you're a Casanova in PH doesn't make you one here. I've had other American friends having similar success in PH (where they have natural gravitation toward white folks).

5. Money. No money no honey. Even if the girls you met in VN are non-pro, they do expect you to give them something. Remember it's still very poor country. Average waitress makes barely over $100 USD a month! Most of them live on the outskirt. It literally kill them financially to come see you in places like D1. So they expect you to understand and have the courtesy of picking up tabs and helping them with petrol or taxi fee at minimal. If you ever married them, you're also expected to help take care of their family. In VN, most of their love and loyalty will be to their first, you second.

The ones you meet most likely fall into lower middle class to poor category.

If you're super lucky and meet girls from higher class background, then money become less of an issue (assuming you're in same vicinity as them economically) but those girls definitely have their own rich princess issues. Although the chance of this happening are almost zero because what can you offer them that they don't have? Your status as foreigners don't mean much to them unlike lower middle class to poor types. And even for those, being foreigners lost most of the novelty it once had. Now being foreigners just mean possible exit for these economically challenged girls.

Bottom line, I love VN. I still think it's the best place to hook up with both pro AND non-pro girls in Asia. Just have the right expectation and right approach. What works in PH doesn't necessarily apply in VN. Hell. What works in Nana Plaza doesn't even apply to The Pimp (and that's being in the same city of Bangkok). Same here in VN. What works in Apocalypse do not apply to high-end local KTV like 166.

1) I am very aware of that, however, it's possible some members have VN wives as well. If someone has info on that then great, if not, no biggie.

2) I have hit up Tinder and VCupid very hard. In the past two weeks I've messaged 550 or so girls on VCupid. Which yeilded 200 facebook adds to my Vietnam List. 1/3 of the girls simply gave me their viber and not their facebook. I will have to go through all my messages and save their picture with their number captioned. Tons of matches on Tinder but have yet to message them further.

3) I am not sure where you get the liberal impression. Being a virgin and waiting for marriage is quite big here from everything I gather. The biggest of any country I've ever traveled to. Nothing like the Philippines where it is a given every girl I meet online and go on a night date with will fuck me that night.

4) Any Westerner / Foreigner is a Cassanova in Philippines. No one will be having that success in VN without being a celebrity or something.

5) I always pay for transport, food, drinks, movies, etc when I meet women. So that won't be a problem.

The quality of girls online in VN is vastly superior to Philippines. You can find East Asian looking women in a poor country. Can't beat that.

With all the leg work I am putting into online mining, I am going to have probably 600 attractive women indexed either on facebook or viber for me to contact when I arrive next year.

Thanks for the detailed reply.

[Ecchi]

Hey everyone,

29 y / o planning to move to Vietnam next year. Anyone here married a Vietnamese woman? Curious if anyone has any experience dating Vietnamese women.

What are some good non mongering / expat forums for Vietnam?

I was in Saigon a year or two ago for about 5 days..

1. Marriage material. Most of the bros here are into punting and not looking for marriage. Definitely mongering joints are the worst possible place to find marriage partner.

2. Dating scene. Check out finding girls online section. Wechat and Zalo are good although you should be in non-touristy area. Otherwise you'll be bombarded by pimps). Vietnamcupid used to be better but still okay.

3. ONS (one night stand). Actually, Vietnamese are one of the most liberal in all of Asia (I don't really think of PH as Asian. They're a mixed of American and Spanish complete with stereotypical Catholic baggage) thanks to the French influence. The way to dress (flaunt it if you got it) to their pragmatic approach to sex. Sex after few dates are very possible based on personal experience. But then again. These are not the type you would want as long term GF or marriage partner right? ONS is possible but higher difficulty level.

4. Lesson. Your experience doesn't necessarily reflect reality. Just because you're a Casanova in PH doesn't make you one here. I've had other American friends having similar success in PH (where they have natural gravitation toward white folks).

5. Money. No money no honey. Even if the girls you met in VN are non-pro, they do expect you to give them something. Remember it's still very poor country. Average waitress makes barely over $100 USD a month! Most of them live on the outskirt. It literally kill them financially to come see you in places like D1. So they expect you to understand and have the courtesy of picking up tabs and helping them with petrol or taxi fee at minimal. If you ever married them, you're also expected to help take care of their family. In VN, most of their love and loyalty will be to their first, you second.

The ones you meet most likely fall into lower middle class to poor category.

If you're super lucky and meet girls from higher class background, then money become less of an issue (assuming you're in same vicinity as them economically) but those girls definitely have their own rich princess issues. Although the chance of this happening are almost zero because what can you offer them that they don't have? Your status as foreigners don't mean much to them unlike lower middle class to poor types. And even for those, being foreigners lost most of the novelty it once had. Now being foreigners just mean possible exit for these economically challenged girls.

Bottom line, I love VN. I still think it's the best place to hook up with both pro AND non-pro girls in Asia. Just have the right expectation and right approach. What works in PH doesn't necessarily apply in VN. Hell. What works in Nana Plaza doesn't even apply to The Pimp (and that's being in the same city of Bangkok). Same here in VN. What works in Apocalypse do not apply to high-end local KTV like 166.

[Medellin Kuya]

To Cali.

You didn't get laid in Vietnam because you don't want to P4 P viet girl in HMC is all about money, I find girl here attuide is not as good as in PI or other country in asia , I don't why you think viet are marriage material if you never even bang one yet just stay in PI girl there are the best GFE in the world.

Fast eddie 48.

Correction, I didn't get laid in Vietnam because 1) I was only there a few days 2) didn't attempt P4 P 3) Only went on one late night drinking date 3) Vietnamese culture.

I have banged a few Vietnamese girls in Korea, although I am not sure what simply fucking a Viet girl has to do with them being marriage material or not.

However, you are correct about one thing, Filipinas def have a more open disposition and are more fun. But that comes with them also being less loyal.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hey everyone,

29 y / o planning to move to Vietnam next year. Anyone here married a Vietnamese woman? Curious if anyone has any experience dating Vietnamese women.

What are some good non mongering / expat forums for Vietnam?

I was in Saigon a year or two ago for about 5 days. I liked the city overall, but it is not good for a short trip trying to hookup with girls. Most of the girls I met online where very conservative, traditional, and shy. I think it would take numerous dates and maybe being their BF to get in their pants. I went out in D1 alone for nightlife a few times and it was God awful. Every place was dead and very expensive. I met one Westernized girl online who seemed very slutty. We went to the freelance bar in D1. Can't remember the name, but its the main one. Me and the girl were dancing and making out hardcore. I thought this was a sure sign she was down to fuck so within an hour or so I told her to lets go. She is asking me where we are going, can't remember what I said. Once we arrive at my hotel she does not want to go in. It took me awhile to get her to agree to come to my room. Once in the room I tried everything but she would not let me fuck. I keep pushing and persisting. There was a split second where she grabbed my cock and motioned it towards her pussy but I was soft by that time. Then she went back to defense mode. I gave up and just went to sleep.

Vietnam was the only country I didn't get laid in on my SEA tour. Tsk Tsk.

Vietnam is a place to spend an extended amount of time. The girls are more marriage material in my opinion. Not a place for a dude to go and bang a lot of easy girls like Philippines.

To Cali.

You didn't get laid in Vietnam because you don't want to P4 P viet girl in HMC is all about money, I find girl here attuide is not as good as in PI or other country in asia , I don't why you think viet are marriage material if you never even bang one yet just stay in PI girl there are the best GFE in the world.

Fast eddie 48.

[NguyetLang]

Hey everyone,

29 y / o planning to move to Vietnam next year. Anyone here married a Vietnamese woman? Curious if anyone has any experience dating Vietnamese women.

What are some good non mongering / expat forums for Vietnam?

I was in Saigon a year or two ago for about 5 days. I liked the city overall, but it is not good for a short trip trying to hookup with girls. Most of the girls I met online where very conservative, traditional, and shy. I think it would take numerous dates and maybe being their BF to get in their pants. I went out in D1 alone for nightlife a few times and it was God awful. Every place was dead and very expensive. I met one Westernized girl online who seemed very slutty. We went to the freelance bar in D1. Can't remember the name, but its the main one. Me and the girl were dancing and making out hardcore. I thought this was a sure sign she was down to fuck so within an hour or so I told her to lets go. She is asking me where we are going, can't remember what I said. Once we arrive at my hotel she does not want to go in. It took me awhile to get her to agree to come to my room. Once in the room I tried everything but she would not let me fuck. I keep pushing and persisting. There was a split second where she grabbed my cock and motioned it towards her pussy but I was soft by that time. Then she went back to defense mode. I gave up and just went to sleep.

Vietnam was the only country I didn't get laid in on my SEA tour. Tsk Tsk.

Vietnam is a place to spend an extended amount of time. The girls are more marriage material in my opinion. Not a place for a dude to go and bang a lot of easy girls like Philippines.

I agree that for English speaking girls, VN is still underdevelopment. FL girls are available at the D1 bars. You just happened to encounter one that wants to marry a westerner to move out of country. There are other FL girls at the bars. Just keep going after them. Many members here reported good luck at Apocalypse Now on Thi Sach street. So, go there, young man!

For quick releases you may try those HTGD (hair salons) on NPK street. There are even quicker services in cafe-om and beer-om. Bottom line, the girls are there, just have to spend some time and efforts (not too much). In general, I can vouch for looks and selection, VN is the best in southeast Asia for those two criteria (I. E. , young, thin, and pretty, and plenty of them). But service depends, its all over the map. I have encountered a wide range, from starfish, to mechanical, to wild nymphomaniacs.

Good luck, and enjoy Vietnam.

[Medellin Kuya]

Hey everyone,

29 y / o planning to move to Vietnam next year. Anyone here married a Vietnamese woman? Curious if anyone has any experience dating Vietnamese women.

What are some good non mongering / expat forums for Vietnam?

I was in Saigon a year or two ago for about 5 days. I liked the city overall, but it is not good for a short trip trying to hookup with girls. Most of the girls I met online where very conservative, traditional, and shy. I think it would take numerous dates and maybe being their BF to get in their pants. I went out in D1 alone for nightlife a few times and it was God awful. Every place was dead and very expensive. I met one Westernized girl online who seemed very slutty. We went to the freelance bar in D1. Can't remember the name, but its the main one. Me and the girl were dancing and making out hardcore. I thought this was a sure sign she was down to fuck so within an hour or so I told her to lets go. She is asking me where we are going, can't remember what I said. Once we arrive at my hotel she does not want to go in. It took me awhile to get her to agree to come to my room. Once in the room I tried everything but she would not let me fuck. I keep pushing and persisting. There was a split second where she grabbed my cock and motioned it towards her pussy but I was soft by that time. Then she went back to defense mode. I gave up and just went to sleep.

Vietnam was the only country I didn't get laid in on my SEA tour. Tsk Tsk.

Vietnam is a place to spend an extended amount of time. The girls are more marriage material in my opinion. Not a place for a dude to go and bang a lot of easy girls like Philippines.

[LoveTool]

That isn't a restaurant. That's a bia om / KTV. And she is a gloried working girl. Packaged as a hostess. So yeah what you saying makes sense, 700 k isn't a bad price but for that shitty service and the hassles of organising a meeting. Not worth the effort.

Exactly, it's a bia om. I think on the sign outside it does say "nha hang" but of course it's not really a restaurant. I can drive past there soon and report what the exact address was. This happened a few months ago so maybe she doesn't work there now any more. Also on the night she had her phone off because she said she was at work and couldn't turn on her phone, that was Friday. But her phone was on again on Saturday, and in fact she didn't work that night because she met me. So that seems a bit strange, that she can work at a bia om but not need to report to work on Saturday night.

Because the 700 was explicitly for sex plus kissing, I could have paid just 500 K, which would be quite a good price I think and especially for such a fresh young girl with such an excellent body. It would have taken some real effort to "train" her, but at that price might have been worth it, or even at the 700 price. But at the time I just felt too annoyed to go through with it.

I still wonder what she was doing way down there at that roundabout that night. Was she standing round hoping to be picked up by a customer, the way I did? And why the two-phone business. Just some decoy action, or what? And why would she know of those hotels way over in D7 but not there in D8 (or maybe it's Binh Chanh there) where she actually was waiting about? So many weird details.

[MutantChicken]

Anyway, she gave me the address of her restaurant. It was on An Duong Vuong in D5. Later I went past there and found it. Ha, it was a karaoke. Well technically it was a restaurant but all the bikes were parked facing backwards and there was a pink light in there..

That isn't a restaurant. That's a bia om / KTV. And she is a gloried working girl. Packaged as a hostess. So yeah what you saying makes sense, 700 k isn't a bad price but for that shitty service and the hassles of organising a meeting. Not worth the effort.