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  2. #12257

    From The Carpark

    Just before opening time, in the car park behind two well known RnTs in Victoria Street Abbotsford, I observed the following.

    Two Range Rovers, a BMW SUV and a Mercedes SUV. A massage girl turned up driving an almost new Mazda 3.

    Make no mistake, there is money in cock handling.

    Our cocks are their ATMs.

  3. #12256
    Quote Originally Posted by RnTug  [View Original Post]
    True, not always as Engine Driver says. There may well be some like that but I too know many driving the BMWs etc that are running the business themselves.
    Yes that's true. There are plenty of Chinese ladies with Australian citizenship owning and operating their own rub and tug joints and have made fortunes. I knew a lady in Abbotsford who had a nice black BMW. Not saying all are involved in the gang empire. It's just that when you see a bunch of 65 year old grannies servicing 30 blokes a day, and they can't speak a word of English, you know there's more to the story.

    The thugs from Chinese gangs will come knocking on the legitimate owners door each week to collect protection money. This is practice has been going on for 1000's of years. Everyone is getting paid off. If they get raided, it means they've missed a payment.

    As for the comment on the belt and road, the gentleman mad that in jest! Haha.

  4. #12255
    Quote Originally Posted by Stykler  [View Original Post]
    Not in the circumstance I outlined in my post. Unfortunately that is something I assure of 100%.
    Yes I agree, there are plenty who are not involved in the sort of stuff suggested below. And someone suggesting they are part of the Andrews Belt & Road deal? What a long bow to draw, absolutely no way.

  5. #12254

    Boilers

    Thanks ED for that information, most enlightening. This woman that I'm referring to did say recently that she had a year to go, I guess that's her sentence. It's impossible to get accurate information from her, a lot gets lost in wechat translation and I guess there's a lot she doesn't want to divulge anyway.

    Possibly these women are part of Andrews belt and road deal!

  6. #12253
    Quote Originally Posted by Stykler  [View Original Post]
    Not in the circumstance I outlined in my post. Unfortunately that is something I assure of 100%.
    True, not always as Engine Driver says. There may well be some like that but I too know many driving the BMWs etc that are running the business themselves.

  7. #12252
    Quote Originally Posted by EngineDriver  [View Original Post]
    The lady who is driving the Audi or BMW is the manager who controls the street level operation, collects the money, takes her cut and then sends the rest up the line.
    Not in the circumstance I outlined in my post. Unfortunately that is something I assure of 100%.

  8. #12251

    Old Boilers from China

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBus  [View Original Post]
    From time to time I read references on ISG about the PRC Aunties and paying of debts. Indeed I've been banging one for nearly 18 months now, right through lock down last year and lockdown now. She's got virtualy no english, though she did surprise me one day when she said, "you come already?. Ha ha ha. Via translate she told me that she or rather one of her employees was involved in some sort of motor accident where people were killed. I figure she's got debts from this. So how does all this work? Does anyone got solid knowledge of the procedure, are they here until the visa runs out or debt paid off. Are the debt brokers that organize all this? Can some one bring me up to speed on this.
    Out in the villages of China, feudalism still exists. Debts must be repaid or you get killed. Debts can be due to gambling, drugs or for favours received. Parents will take the rap for their adult kids.

    You may recall a couple of years ago, the cops in Melbourne rounded up about 100 Chinese beggars on the streets who were aged in their 70's and 80's. These oldies wearing fake "torn clothes" were bussed in each morning and ordered to collect $200 from generous Aussies each day in the CBD. They were too old to sell their pussies, so the gang leaders put them to work begging to pay off their debts. The gangs organized tourist visas for these old folks and they were presumably let off once their targets had been reached. This racket was worth about $140 k a week. The police only acted after complaints from the Salvos that genuine homeless people were being forced out of services because of these fake beggars.

    The same thing is happening in these illegal prostitution rings. No 60-year old granny willingly travels to a foreign country to sell her pussy. These old boilers owe a serious debt to their feudal lords back home and are given a choice. Pay or face the consequences. So these poor old women go to work in some dive in Dandenong, servicing 20 cocks a day! Pre-Covid, these gangs were sending out thousands of these old women to all parts of the world as there's a fortune to be made. The lady who is driving the Audi or BMW is the manager who controls the street level operation, collects the money, takes her cut and then sends the rest up the line. The gang leaders are probably in China somewhere controlling their global empires.

    Mongers just need to resist the urge to fuck these old boilers.

    Why don't the authorities do something about it? Because everyone is getting their cut and in places like socialist Melbourne, no one is going to upset their Chinese masters.

  9. #12250
    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomeSadist  [View Original Post]
    Do the butterfly girls work out of houses / apartments? Or in shop fronts?
    Houses and apartments by the look of it. CBD, Clayton, Glen Waverley and Box Hill, they definitely advertise under other guises as I'm getting the same faces on Wechat and Line from two different contacts. Most girls PRC or Taiwanese by the look it no Thais etc on the roster,.

    As always high chance of bait and switch but all looked young, if you don't like it walk the simple rule. Will take one for the team next week and give a FR.

  10. #12249
    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomeSadist  [View Original Post]
    Do the butterfly girls work out of houses / apartments? Or in shop fronts?
    The ones I have seen have been in a block of apartments in Doncaster and a small hotel in Box hill.

  11. #12248
    Quote Originally Posted by RnTug  [View Original Post]
    Agree $30 is top as far as a HJ goes. But sadly there are a lot of fools out there that have way more money than brains, idiots.

    These Butterfly Girls are not old they are all reasonably young, at least the ones I have seen have been anyway.
    Do the butterfly girls work out of houses / apartments? Or in shop fronts?

  12. #12247
    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomeSadist  [View Original Post]
    Supply / demand which is why they raised their prices. Especially when Melbourne gets locked down these boomers can start charging $100 for a 5 min handjob.

    I have heard that before and literally laughed out loud and walked. I never pay more than $30 for a handjob. On second thought I'd pay more of the gal was a teenager but then again that is like spotting green lightning.

    HS.
    Agree $30 is top as far as a HJ goes. But sadly there are a lot of fools out there that have way more money than brains, idiots.

    These Butterfly Girls are not old they are all reasonably young, at least the ones I have seen have been anyway.

  13. #12246
    Quote Originally Posted by RnTug  [View Original Post]
    I have seen a few of these girls, the ones I have seen have been real photos but well enhanced to make them look better. Still nothing wrong with them though.

    The service varies but generally I have had good service from them.

    Their prices went up after the big lockdown last year so I don't go there anymore.
    Supply / demand which is why they raised their prices. Especially when Melbourne gets locked down these boomers can start charging $100 for a 5 min handjob.

    I have heard that before and literally laughed out loud and walked. I never pay more than $30 for a handjob. On second thought I'd pay more of the gal was a teenager but then again that is like spotting green lightning.

    HS.

  14. #12245
    Quote Originally Posted by ValueMonger  [View Original Post]
    Anyone ever used a Stable of SE Asian girls called Butterfly girls, they're on Line, impressive stable from photos, Glen Waverly, Clayton, City and Box Hill?

    Or its another Switch and Bait mob?
    I have seen a few of these girls, the ones I have seen have been real photos but well enhanced to make them look better. Still nothing wrong with them though.

    The service varies but generally I have had good service from them.

    Their prices went up after the big lockdown last year so I don't go there anymore.

  15. #12244
    Quote Originally Posted by ValueMonger  [View Original Post]
    Anyone ever used a Stable of SE Asian girls called Butterfly girls, they're on Line, impressive stable from photos, Glen Waverly, Clayton, City and Box Hill?

    Or its another Switch and Bait mob?
    I haven't seen them but I am pretty confident in saying it's a good ol' catfish operation.

    Since the pandemic hit the uni aged girls seem to have either left the country or moved to onlyfans.

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