Auckland

[Moriarty]

...for 1 hour you have to pay $500!!

... it seems that there are obviously plenty of suckers out there willing to pay that price in the delusional hope that they're going to get a better fuck.
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Anyone out there spent a fortune on one of these "class" SW's? I'd be interested to hear about it. Don't be shy we're all anonymous on here so we can only judge you from afar!

Hi LAB,

I have to say I completely agree with you - $500 for an hour's company with a woman, fucking or not, is way over the top in my opinion. In fact, it's probably over the top for 3 hours.

Although I'm far from "one of those rich suckers" that would spend this kind of cash, I'm also far from being destitute. I also don't consider myself a miser but personally I think carefully about spending over say $150 per hour as a "fair value going-rate" to fuck a nice looking woman. I work hard for my money and I'd like to think I spend it well. If I equated this to dating, this would be perhaps 2 dates worth? At which point the social mores of today suggest that she should then "put out".

Further, to put this into perspective, if a SW works 5 days a week and does on average 2 punters a day for an hour each at the aforementioned $150, this is a gross take of $1,500 a week all in cash that presumably does not all then have to be declared to Dr Cullen (not that I would ever advocate anyone doing anything illegal; heavens, the mere thought...). A very fair salary in the present economy by anyone's assessment I think. And for a very easy amount of work that could even be rather fun if we believe the statements that many of these women make, seemingly of their own free will, that they "really enjoy their work".

Cheers,

M

[Flinthef]

My guess is the girl doing $60 blowjobs as well as the $230 jobs is a very needy woman (read "P addict"). And certainly internationally there are plenty of megarich guys who pay big bucks for the same service we get for much less - but I guess the extra not only buys a classy woman ( ridiculously expensive, but nice) but also absolute discretion for the well known?

Correction: In my previous post I said that Spitzer had paid US$15, 000 for a punt. Not true, he allegedly paid $4, 000 a time. Where he got into trouble was with the IRS and that was for unexplained routing of funds to hide where he spent the money. The figure in the investigation to date has totalled more than $15K. I guess that he had been Paying for Play more than once. Sorry for the inaccuracy.

Whichever way you look at it, he wasn't just paying for sex, but for something else that came with the package (discretion, thrill of breaking the law or some other "benefit" that Miss Dupré had to offer.).

[Flinthef]

My guess is the girl doing $60 blowjobs as well as the $230 jobs is a very needy woman (read "P addict"). And certainly internationally there are plenty of megarich guys who pay big bucks for the same service we get for much less - but I guess the extra not only buys a classy woman ( ridiculously expensive, but nice) but also absolute discretion for the well known?

Hi Randy Man,

You could be right about her being an addict (I never asked), but surely one could argue that there are P / Coke and other addicts at all levels of society who are so desperate that they will do anything. Look at Millie Holmes and her antics removing coats from department stores without paying for them. A desperate A lister.

How many of the SWs at the high end of price on NZGirls and Adultspace advertise that they operate from an upmarket apartment or villa? A lot. To be honest I don't really give a toss about why they put out. That's their problem. They've made choices and must live with them.

If money for a flash villa constitutes class then I really don't know what constitutes "classy" anymore but I do know that there is more to the price than the cost of the sex.

Did you read about Elliot Spitzer's fall from grace as the Governor of New York? He paid US$15k for a punt with Ashleigh Alexandra Dupré. As you so rightly suggest, he wasn't paying for the punt. He was paying for discretion. This was "silence money" because as the former State Attorney General and then later as Governor of New York he had been instrumental in trying to stop illicit activities including prostitution. He was in office when the scandal broke and he was forced to resign as Governor.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/ny...e&st=cse&scp=3

This incident clearly illustrates what lies behind high price. Those with something to lose will pay a premium for discretion and silence.commodities that have nothing to do with the cost of sex!

My gripe is with our de facto legalised industry here in Auckland where the agencies, houses and websites have recently inflated prices leaving me having blowjobs in the cold instead of enjoying indoor company. To add insult to injury this is with the same SWs who can't get punters because their advertised prices are too high! But they're willing to offer cheapies in the car parks. Go figure!

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[Randy Man]

My guess is the girl doing $60 blowjobs as well as the $230 jobs is a very needy woman (read "P addict"). And certainly internationally there are plenty of megarich guys who pay big bucks for the same service we get for much less - but I guess the extra not only buys a classy woman ( ridiculously expensive, but nice) but also absolute discretion for the well known?

[Flinthef]

Hi LAB, Have you ever thought that maybe these really expensive women are just amateurs looking for extra money for luxuries? They don't really seem to be on the game and will only put out if its seriously worth their while. You are 100% right when you say "raw sex is only raw sex", so how much can that be worth?

Have you been watching "Secret Diary of a Call Girl"? Whoever wrote it would have you believe that 1 hour of a SWs time will end up with a guy being led by his willie to the point where he will give away an apartment with a view of the Thames. That seems as realistic as the one mentioned recently who wants $15k for a night or $1000 per hour.

On the other hand, maybe there is some super rich guy out there who does drop money like that, but I doubt it. Even the Blue Chip guys just used The HQ. And that was with other people's money.

Perhaps the girls have a double working life too. I got to thinking about this because recently I had a CBJ from one of the girls in Cross St (times are tough so I had to economize) and the whole time she was talking about if I came up with a large sum then I could come to an apartment where she works with friends and get a backdoor experience. She was part of a group who advertise on adultspace but wouldn't say what her advertised name was.

There she was giving out $60 blowjobs while advertising $230 plus backdoor premium on adultspace. It makes you think: What's a punt really worth? And when will these SWs advertise at the real price.

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[LoveAsianBabes]

Check out Emily on NZ Girls - She's "absolutely gorgeous" apparently. And to be privvy to that gorgeousness for 1 hour you have to pay $500!!

There was a debate on the NZ Girls message board a while ago with some bloke going on about how if you pay a grand for an hour with a SW then she'll obviously be more classy than a standard SW.

What a load of shit - how much "class" has any woman got when she's sucking your cock or you're giving her a good pounding from behind. (For those sensitive souls, I'm not implying that I don't respect these girls - I absolutely do - I'm just making the point that raw sex is raw sex)

Not sure what that guy meant by class but it seems that there are obviously plenty of suckers out there willing to pay that price in the delusional hope that they're going to get a better fuck.

But good on the girl if she can get that much money out of people - all power to her I say!!

Anyone out there spent a fortune on one of these "class" SW's? I'd be interested to hear about it. Don't be shy we're all anonymous on here so we can only judge you from afar!

[Richard F]

This is the singlet I always wear when visiting pros, it seems to bring me luck.

[Richard F]

Hi Softcock, what you probably realised was that the insights were largely based on personal experience. I am a soldier and paying for sex is the soldier's way. There are very few soldiers who I know who get much joy from hanging about singles' bars down at the Viaduct trying to get some woman to put out. That's for salesmen, accountants, lawyers and others for whom I have no time. Too much sales patter.

Women in those situations are always looking for a BBD (Bigger Better Deal). They are looking for a knight in pinstripe armour to save them from their boring lives. They want bullshit and will lay the best bullshitter. After 22 years of kicking the shit out of bullshitters I don't play those mind games. Even for a bit of nookie. Especially not for nookie.

The best part of being with a SW is that there is no emotional connection.

There is only the commercial relationship and that's what's so true about LAB's comments. He is right when he says that an affair can break up an otherwise good marriage. If he had gone into an affair he would have had to say words like "I love you" to someone he just wanted to have sex with. Far better, and more honest, to just Pay for Play.

I can't comment on Richard's idea of how good it is to have a steady SW because I have only been back to the same one once in my life and the second visit was a disappointment. I guess that its what's right for the individual. Mongering is, after all is said and done, about adult male entertainment.

There is no obligation. You do it when there is spare cash or when there is stress or just whenever you want to. And if you never go back, there are no tears or messy recriminations. Bloody brilliant.

As for the religion-based baggage. Well, after having seen virtually every atrocity possible and seen the worst people in the world having a fantastic time at others expense, I gave up on believing in divine retribution. We are animals. We have binocular vision. This means that none of us are prey. Binocular vision divides us simply into predators and scavengers. We may even, like the lions and hyenas of Africa, be both at different times of our lives; as needs dictate.

The only time that humans become prey is when someone has put weakness into their minds. When religion has told them some lie such as "The meek shall inherit the earth". Yeah right!

A SW may look at you as prey, just as you may look at her in the same way, during the same encounter; but each of you look at each other with complete honesty.

And that by the way was behind my choice of name. FlintHef is a tribute to Larry Flint and Hugh Hefner. Guys who did their best to get rid of sexual guilt and who, as a teenager, gave me hours of entertainment every month.

All I can say is: Get out there and enjoy whatever makes YOU feel good and to hell with guilt!

I agree with your thoughts Flinthef re: punters and SW's.

If you take as a typical example: A man meets a woman, either socially or through work. He invites her for an evening out, which may include, say a show, film, then dinner or the other way round, which he pays for. At the end of the evening when he drops her home, it is usually implied, he will expect payment sexually for the money he has spent, perhaps not the first time, but if they go out again several times. Visiting a SW seems much more straightforward and less hypocritical.

Also, there are many double standards regarding sex. I remember I was at my local Erox store looking through their products. The local council wanted the shop closed because "it lowered the tone of the neighbourhood and property values". I had a chat to the owner and he told me, the same men who sat on the council and wanted his shop closed were the very men who also visited his shop at times - hypocritical double standards.

Further, something I have noticed over the years in New Zealand, re relations between the sexes. The woman sees giving her sexual favours as a reward if the man "has been a good boy." There doesn't seem to be much consensus. The "reward" is withheld if he "plays up" or misbehaves.

[Sftck]

2 quickies.

Candy NZG gold section , 20yrs Hot asian bod, face cute ,all good thou couldnt give her solid pounding , say Emmi style.
Bod 8/ 10
BJ 8/ 10
FS 6/ 10
RTF maybe but not at $180 .

Yvonne NZG elite 20ys Hot bod ,face not flash but ok, dont touch the hair!
CBJ ok , but plenty of effort and funny , liked a hard and long pounding , no complaints like cock to big etc.
Bod 8 /10
BJ 6/10
FS 7.5/10
RTF maybe but not @150 , compaired to FARRAS crew doesnt stack up.

[Flinthef]

What a great report Flint , so much better than I could have added , like I get Horny and need to off load cum.

Please feel free give us some more insight.

Softcock/ not Mike Hock!

Hi Softcock, what you probably realised was that the insights were largely based on personal experience. I am a soldier and paying for sex is the soldier's way. There are very few soldiers who I know who get much joy from hanging about singles' bars down at the Viaduct trying to get some woman to put out. That's for salesmen, accountants, lawyers and others for whom I have no time. Too much sales patter.

Women in those situations are always looking for a BBD (Bigger Better Deal). They are looking for a knight in pinstripe armour to save them from their boring lives. They want bullshit and will lay the best bullshitter. After 22 years of kicking the shit out of bullshitters I don't play those mind games. Even for a bit of nookie. Especially not for nookie.

The best part of being with a SW is that there is no emotional connection.

There is only the commercial relationship and that's what's so true about LAB's comments. He is right when he says that an affair can break up an otherwise good marriage. If he had gone into an affair he would have had to say words like "I love you" to someone he just wanted to have sex with. Far better, and more honest, to just Pay for Play.

I can't comment on Richard's idea of how good it is to have a steady SW because I have only been back to the same one once in my life and the second visit was a disappointment. I guess that its what's right for the individual. Mongering is, after all is said and done, about adult male entertainment.

There is no obligation. You do it when there is spare cash or when there is stress or just whenever you want to. And if you never go back, there are no tears or messy recriminations. Bloody brilliant.

As for the religion-based baggage. Well, after having seen virtually every atrocity possible and seen the worst people in the world having a fantastic time at others expense, I gave up on believing in divine retribution. We are animals. We have binocular vision. This means that none of us are prey. Binocular vision divides us simply into predators and scavengers. We may even, like the lions and hyenas of Africa, be both at different times of our lives; as needs dictate.

The only time that humans become prey is when someone has put weakness into their minds. When religion has told them some lie such as "The meek shall inherit the earth". Yeah right!

A SW may look at you as prey, just as you may look at her in the same way, during the same encounter; but each of you look at each other with complete honesty.

And that by the way was behind my choice of name. FlintHef is a tribute to Larry Flint and Hugh Hefner. Guys who did their best to get rid of sexual guilt and who, as a teenager, gave me hours of entertainment every month.

All I can say is: Get out there and enjoy whatever makes YOU feel good and to hell with guilt!

[Richard F]

Are there any reports/reviews on Layce "Black african goddess" advertising in the Herald at the moment from other punters? It would be good to know before I spend any cash.

thanks

[Richard F]

Here are two photos from this week's truth.

The first looks to be good value for money.

The other is the dreadful "BamBam" with her fake photo.

[Aligenie]

Just a quick report on Gaby from NZ Girls. Booked into today for an hour and went round this afternoon. She looked just as good as photos and I have to say that she has the most fantastic attitude I have come across for a SW. Answered the door in nice black lingerie and after a quick shower she was straight at me. Plenty of French kissing and she almost sucked my tongue right out of my head. Moved onto DATY and 69. Great covered CBJ (for my tastes anyway). Then doggie, mish and a few other positions and managed to come just before the end. Definitely not a clock watcher and even offered a massage at the end even though hour was up. Simply loves sex.

Latin girls rock. Only downside is she is quite popular (duh) and hard to get hold of.

Face and Body 9/10

Attitude 10/10

$200 per hour or $150 per half hour.

First time i can say money well spent.
Would i return - Hell yeah

[Moriarty]

Amanda - gorgeous and amazing GFE 9/10
Amy - best attitude ever, can't go wrong wit her 9/10
Jordan - good looks, beautiful breast, but attitude's a bit superficial (i know it's asking too much) but overall 8/10

Hey King,

I know this was a "quickie" post from you but can you give some details about contacts (see LABs comment about 2 Amandas and Amys) and prices please? I'm wondering who next and would appreciate the assist. Ah, decisions, decisions.

Cheers,

M

[Sylpharion]

Thanks heaps guys, probably gonna be around mid July or end of July that I will be able to go there and sample the goods. But definatly more info is better also fresh info s good. Thanks heaps

Not too sure who am gonna see but maybe julia, as they have advertised on adultspace that she does anal for 130 also, but I ll call anyway to confirm.