What Country has the Best Women for LTR?

[Dickhead]

Panamá is the cheapest place I have found to "buy" residency by investing or depositing money and it ain't that cheap. I think it was buy a property or business for $175k or put $250k in a two year CD at the Bank of Panamá. Maybe it was $150k and $200k. Something like that anyway and they give you five year residency and then after that you can get permanent. Lots of discounts for retired people in that country too: utilities, movies, bus tickets, a bunch of shit.

But if you just want to get around the visa requirements completely, I have been here in Argentina for six years on a tourist visa and all you have to do is take a boat ride to Uruguay every three months that takes about 10 hours total (a little over two hours each way on the boat, a thirty minute bus ride to get to the boat, a little over three hours on the ground in Uruguay) and costs about forty dollars. If you want to spend a hundred and twenty dollars you can do it in about four hours total on a different boat.

I've never been asked for a return ticket or proof of onward travel but anyone who is worried about it could cover themselves with one of these boat tickets. Cacciola is one company and Buquebus is another. They have duty free shops on these boats so if one were enterprising one could maybe defray some of the cost of the trip buying perfume or maybe high-end booze.

Another possibility is Chile and Argentina. Chile charges US citizens $100 to enter the first time but the entry fee is good for the life of the passport so then you are only constrained by the 90 days. Los Andes is an example of a city I would live in in Chile that is close for visa runs. Or, from Bariloche in Argentina you can get to the Chilean border in about an hour on a regular public bus that only costs a couple of bucks. Even if you had to go from Santiago to Mendoza, that is only 7 hours and it's spectacular.

Salta, Argentina is close to Bolivia which requires no visa. Or how about Leticia, Columbia (Brazil and Peru are right there and you can cross by boat to Santos, Brazil IIRC)?

Fuck residency. Just keep moving.

[Artisttyp]

This is something I am wondering about as well. I do appreciate the Philippines letting us stay for up to 18 months (I think) without having to leave the country, but the extensions every two months can really add up after a while, and as you said, it's kind of a pain in the ass to go get done.

I wonder what countries have the most lenient rules for obtaining a visa that allows you to stay long term, for example if you put a few thousand dollars into a bank account, they will give you an "investors" visa, or something like that?

I'm thinking if you don't have a visa but want to stay somewhere for an extended period of time (maybe 6-12 months) Central America may be the easiest location. No visa needed and when your time is up just head to a neighboring country for a few days and then return and start the process all over again. I think you can do this for an unlimited amount of times in places like Guatemala, El Salvador, etc. But I'm not sure...

Anyway, this question isn't really that relevant to LTRs, but I looked for a visa/long term stay thread on here and I coulnd't find one. Maybe Jackson could create one?

Good points about central america and mexico. However personal tastes do come into play when you are choosing a new life. You could possibly do 6 months a year in ecuador if you went to colombia every 3 months. The same could be true for argentina with uruguay/paragauy.

I would want to split my time between argentina colombia and peru. None are really convenient to get to from the other. You must fly unless you want to tortue yourself by bus .

You might get lucky a few times by going to whatever border for an hour then try to sneak back. Eventually it will catch up with you. You will be dragging your luggage through some unknown town looking for a room.


* My ideal situation would be to buy a 6 month ticket orginating in the USA (miami) and returning to the USA.

Ie. Sept until Nov Miami-Argentina

At least a 36 hour layover between flights(AA's) in miami to go shopping/hit a non fee ATM


Nov until Feb Argentina- Lima ( with a return ticket to miami)

Then I might spend a few more days in miami before buying another 6 month ticket miami to x location and back.

I figure $5000 a year would cover those travel expenses...X amount of $'s a month put aside.

I wouldn't have any visa problems because I could always show a return ticket.

Going through miami is alot cheaper than flying within SA. This is how I would feel comfortable living overseas. I've got it all figured out pretty much. It's the money that's holding me back.


If you are on a tight budget IMHO you must choose one or two countries and stay there. Unless of course you come across other opportunities. Your world will be those countries period. I haven't found just one place that would interest me enough.

A rentista type visa showing proof of incoming funds would get a bit personal. I wouldn't want any SA government knowing my business. Also I believe you must deposit alot more than $1000 in these banks. After all they want you to prove that you are worth something...annuities..pension check etc. You need to show proof of this not just a bank statement from what I have read. Is this wrong ?

[Ezinho]

As much as I think Mexico is not that great of a Country, I can stay on entry for 6 months without having to worry about visas and visa fees.

Where else can you do that? I don't know of any other country.

The visa fees in the Phil are a royal pain in the butt, not only in terms of $$ but in terms of time and trouble.

Most other countries are no more than 3 months that I have heard about.

This is something I am wondering about as well. I do appreciate the Philippines letting us stay for up to 18 months (I think) without having to leave the country, but the extensions every two months can really add up after a while, and as you said, it's kind of a pain in the ass to go get done.

I wonder what countries have the most lenient rules for obtaining a visa that allows you to stay long term, for example if you put a few thousand dollars into a bank account, they will give you an "investors" visa, or something like that?

I'm thinking if you don't have a visa but want to stay somewhere for an extended period of time (maybe 6-12 months) Central America may be the easiest location. No visa needed and when your time is up just head to a neighboring country for a few days and then return and start the process all over again. I think you can do this for an unlimited amount of times in places like Guatemala, El Salvador, etc. But I'm not sure...

Anyway, this question isn't really that relevant to LTRs, but I looked for a visa/long term stay thread on here and I coulnd't find one. Maybe Jackson could create one?

[Sound7]

World Sex Worker Index as of October 1, 2009

Mexico
Tijuana ( 20 to 30 mins)
VivaMex or Aztec massage only 5 (60 minutes)
SW 6
Hk 18
AB 16
Luxor 24

Monterrey
SW quasi 7

China
Chang Ping
BBS 8
KTV 30 to 50
FS 20

India
Mumbai
Plain Massage 4
with HJ 5
FS 50

Peru

Lima
R&V 15

Equador SW 3
Paraquay SW 5
Cloumbia SW 7

PM changes or other locations index for the next update.

Enjoy your trips round the world.

S7

[Jon32]

If the only thing around to fuck is fat pvssy, then we will all fvck fat pvssy.

Great quote lol

[Member #4167]

I don't like the selection I have here currently. I have turned to mongering to get my sexual "fix" as it were. I just refuse to pay the elevated prices that American providers charge, so I'm taking not only my sexual desires but my desire for a LTR out of the country.

DJ FourMoney. Not all American providers ask for elevated prices. Most of the streetwalkers are skanks, but if you look long enough, you can get a BJ from a reasonable young streetwalker (in her 20's early 30's) for $20. FS can be had for $50-$60-$70. She's typically a crack ***** that hasn't turned totally disgusting yet. She doesn't have the fancy clothes, sometimes she looks scruffy.

I am amazed by the American Escorts on the websites. I've seen fat, 40 year old providers asking for $150/half hour. Amazingly, guys pay it.

They call themselves "thick." But, it really is fat. These providers know that no matter how fat they get, some chump will be willing to pay to fvck them. If the only thing around to fuck is fat pvssy, then we will all fvck fat pvssy.

[Member #4167]

Best place is Morocco:

1-not expensive

2-not dangerous

3-good-looking,willing women

4-great coastline and sea

Morocco:

1 & 2 -not expensive & dangerous = true

4 - coast and sea = true

3 - willing women - are you nuts? It is a muslim country.

[TurdyCurdyOne]

As much as I think Mexico is not that great of a Country, I can stay on entry for 6 months without having to worry about visas and visa fees.

Where else can you do that? I don't know of any other country.

The visa fees in the Phil are a royal pain in the butt, not only in terms of $$ but in terms of time and trouble.

Most other countries are no more than 3 months that I have heard about.

[Jon32]

Hey who the f cares, let's get back to LTR's !


I'll start it off...


Seems to me like the best LTR's are from non-feminist countries. So that leaves out northern europe, usa, canada.

What I want to know is the difference between an LTR in South America and an LTR from Eastern Europe. Much different in looks, but how about attitudes? (i.e. women take care of the home, men are in charge, etc...)

[KnickFan]

Hip hop is the decline of America along with the culture. It's showing up now in the economy finally. Not long to go now..

Dont see the connection. It not like HIP HOP forced the greedy US Banking system into running the country's finances into the ground.

Perhaps you feel threatened that HIP HOP has increased the Black Man's popularity worldwide? No need.

White dudes are still associated with wealth and status worldwide. I could tell you many stories about brothas getting overlooked by black women from other countries for an anglo.


It happens a lot in certain countries,mostly those that were colonized by western powers, i.e the entire world. So don't get mad when a MTV inspired Fraulein want to get her "Flo Rda"on. You still have the surfer boy card for the norse worshiping garotas, you have the successful business exec card for the 3rd worlders, you have the nerdy artsy card for the anglophile japanese girls. Use what you got and don't hate on another for doing the same.

(Props to Darkseid for getting his with the "innovative Japanese" card he is playing in Brazil! )


I wouldn't worry too much DUDE. There's plenty women for us all. It's all good. Get over your insecurities and get some pussy.

[DJ FourMoney]

Yeah, you try Colombia....It's not Columbia by the way..Good luck.

And this is based on what experience you have had? Is it my fault you were rejected like a bad WIC stamp?

I know some brothas that have been down to Colombia and had a great time and I'm not talking P4P either.

[DJ FourMoney]

Hip hop is the decline of America along with the culture. It's showing up now in the economy finally. Not long to go now..

So music from Black People better known as Rap, or the said creation of the Media Empires largely controlled by Caucasians?

I don't know how many times I have to go over this on the internet.

Hop Hop - Is the culture

Rap - Is the music

It is not the decline of American Culture. American culture was in decline far before that and it wasn't caused by MINORITIES, we are not in control of ANYTHING that matters.

America is in decline socially because women have taken over and drive the debate. America is in decline because people constantly vote against their own interest. To think Obama won with 57% of the vote and that's considered a landside, how interesting and more than 40% of the population didn't even bother to vote. America is in decline due to crazy unfair trade agreements.

And don't get me started with the debt created by fighting 4 wars, largely not supported by the population under any circumstances.

[DJ FourMoney]

Yeah, you try Colombia....It's not Columbia by the way..Good luck.

And you brought that back from the dead for just that reason? Many people make that mistake and I wasn't talking about "The Show Me State" or the blown up Space Shuttle.

[I Jags]

Hip hop is the decline of America along with the culture. It's showing up now in the economy finally. Not long to go now..

Brazilians and people from other countries love Americans not just because of the money but because we are known as party animals that brought hip hop, techno, reggae, pop music and other great music into their country. The fact that I am Asian makes Brazilians mistaken me as Japanese which they worship because most of their technology such as stereo systems and video games come from Japan. I am Chinese though but I play along with this mistaken indentity just to get into their pants. I also say that I can't speak Japanese because I was born and raised American. This combination makes it a lot easier for me to meet non-pros in Brazil.

[I Jags]

Yeah, you try Colombia....It's not Columbia by the way..Good luck.

I haven't been out of the country yet, but I'm going to either South America or Europe next year.

I don't like the selection I have here currently. I have turned to mongering to get my sexual "fix" as it were. I just refuse to pay the elevated prices that American providers charge, so I'm taking not only my sexual desires but my desire for a LTR out of the country.

I date white women and latinas almost exclusively. Being a Black Man (African-American is so PC it makes me sick), I feel I can pull the same type of women (personality wise) with a decidedly "thinner" body as obesity is now out of control in the US, just as much as rampant single motherhood.

Life is a series of compromises and I'm willing to accept some things in trade for other things. The problem with American women now is its OKAY for you to be BBW and its not okay if you find it unacceptable. Single mothers expect to you take on the responiblity of a ready made family just as your becoming comfortable wiping your own ass, let alone some childs.

Those are the main reasons for seeking LTR elsewhere. However American Black Males are doing damage elsewhere in the world. I notice a steady rise in single mother parenting in places where we have US Milatary bases, namely the Pacific Rim and Germany. I don't feel this hurts my opportunities that much, but does make issues like trust and finding childless women just that more diffucult.

I know black men are popular in Germany, just look at all the personal ads out there. They are being very specific also in stating they would like to talk to American Black Men and not African Black Men. Africans come from a different social structure that often doesn't work with women from Western Cultures such at Europe, Canada and the US. Canadian women tell me the exact same thing.

That's just from talking to these women and not some guestimation on my part. They aren't looking for a free ride to the US either, even though a alot of them would relocate for the right person.

Because of the language issues, I haven't spoke to that many Latinas outside of the US about this, so I was really courious about how "brothas" were treated outside of the US and Europe. Although never having visited Europe, I have a excellent idea because of friends that are recent transplants and my father has spent considerable time over there in the mid to late 80's.

That's what makes this board valuable to me, not only for mongoring information, but for the guys that take the time to seek out non-pro talent wherever they may travel.

So based on that information, I believe I can safely say that an American Black Man's best bets are -

Canada, specfically Vancouver, BC and the mostly english speaking proviances.

Germany, England, The Netherlands and Sweden in Europe

Japan, South Korea, Australia, Malyasha, Thailand and other island nations in the Pacific.

and from the looks of it Brasil, Costa Rica and Columbia in South America.

Most of these countries exposer to black men and black culture come from our Military instalations. I know this is true because I heard a report on NPR about some of the base closures in Germany and how alot of the servicemen were coming back to the US with their german wives and children in tow. It focused on a few interracial marriages on a peticular base that was on the closure list and mentioned some number I don't remember but its pretty significant.

From what I understand -

In Brasil is makes sense for Mullatas to be drawn towards black men. I mean, black for black right? Because of my perferance, I'll be mainly chasing "Loiras" down there and I specifically wanted to visit Sau Paulo first because of this. If I was interested mainly in Mullatas and Morenas then I would probaly make Rio my focus.

I also wanted to go down to Argentina, but I have little information to go on about the non-pros but generally brothas haven't had a problem with providers down there. It seems thought just like in Rio reports from other black men on these boards, they tend to chase Morenas and Mullatas around (judging by the photos posted), weather they are pro's or not. I don't understand why, when they could go to closer destinations and achive the same level of sucess, as in Columbia, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica and even Mexico.

I'm seeking anywhere with European looks. In South America, they have the added bonus of being mixed with Brasilain or Argentinan Indian blood and thus "booty" is born, unlike alot of true euros that have booties only because of the popularity of Burger King and McDonald's outside the US. But that is at least better than most UK women that tend to be quite "chunky" as well, not to mention HORRIBLE teeth that alot of english residence suffer from.

Okay maybe I'm generalizing and rambling too much, but I would like to hear from other brothas and even non-brothas on this subject and do you think I'm onto something?