What Country has the Best Women for LTR?

[Kute Guy]

I am here in Pattaya for my 100th trip (feels like it anyway). I am not a fan of oriental women (yes including Thai women in this bucket). I am not attracted to 95% of the available Thai women but all the other logistics work out really well. I can get a 7 month permit to stay, English is spoken well enough, I love the cuisine, it's very very safe, it's easily accessible for me, there is good diving / nature / beach, etc etc.

Now I have been here for 6 weeks and I have only shagged 3 women on this trip. Every night I start drinking to head out but eventually decide it's better to go to sleep.

Prices have gone up for ST / LT and the Thai currency is strong compared to the currencies I am holding. E. g vs British pound it's almost become double.

I shake at the knee for Latino women. Having spent a lot of time in Medellin, multiple times. I pretty much went to the casas everyday! But it's the same old story. Language barriers, and super super dangerous. I am a massively muscly tall under-40 guy but I dare not step out at night (I have a few times but even the locals grabbed me and insisted I take a taxi and go home). My flatmate in Medellin (American) was robbed under gunpoint in broad daylight, previous flatmates of his were also robbed in daylight.

That just sucks!!

Anyway I need to get out of Asia. Serbian women are THE hottest I have seen in the world. But I don't see myself anywhere in Asia unless I can get ST for around £10-15.

So it looks again between Colombia (Medellin, continue my Spanish studies) or Brazil (back to Rio or try Floripa, start Brazilian Portuguese from scratch). They both have a bit of an LB / TV / TS / TG scene which I also indulge in.

Any tips and hints for a 3-6 month trip that will be easy on my wallet, plenty of fun / night life, beach, etc?

[DJ FourMoney]

Right now, there are 500,000 Venezuelan women living in surrounding countries aged 20 to 40, and they are typically professionals. The Venezuelan women have all the good qualities of the Colombian women, but they are better looking IMO, more open sexually, they are not as materialistic, and they are desperate. Even if they are out of Venezuela, they are having to send money home to their families. Anyone who likes Latinas should try hooking up with a Venezuelan woman. To me, this is the best type of woman in the world right now for a LTR. You aren't going to get the loyalty, looks, sexual energy, and intelligence package with any other group of women IMO.

That is an interesting observation especially if you know anything about the political and economic climate of the country since 2008.

One thing that doesn't get spoken about enough is being a risk taker. The vast majority of women respect risk takers. With Venezuela looking as unstable as it does there might be an opportunity for Western men there that isn't widely spoken about.

But honestly you could say the same for Argentina. But to talk about LTR on the companion forum is not worth doing and all the old heads will say it's a waste of time.

I love Latinas you can use all the obvious cliques about them and of course like any stereotype there is a element of truth in it. That said the passion does get tempered as economic status increases.

The Golden spots for most Western men -.

Latin America, South East Asia (possibly China, Japan and South Korea) and Eastern Europe.

It was pretty much the same ten years ago and hasn't changed. Shows you how much things actually change.

[Elvis 2008]

I go 100% for a Medellin Trophy Wife.

I have a XL equipment and a medium wallet, education and Nobody beats me intellectually!

But My weakness; I fall for Trophy Wifes and Medellin are full of them.

They are 100% material-girls so it does it's not compalatible!

If you are a Western Man. You must follow your sexual desire; otherwise frustration will pop-up and passion will disappear.

Take a firm control over the economy, block every attempt to empty your bank account etc.

I have treated this born-hookers as Ladies, and paid heavily losses!

Lately my defense system works wonderfully and I get the babes I want.

I will marry a girl from Medellin.

Right now, there are 500,000 Venezuelan women living in surrounding countries aged 20 to 40, and they are typically professionals. The Venezuelan women have all the good qualities of the Colombian women, but they are better looking IMO, more open sexually, they are not as materialistic, and they are desperate. Even if they are out of Venezuela, they are having to send money home to their families. Anyone who likes Latinas should try hooking up with a Venezuelan woman. To me, this is the best type of woman in the world right now for a LTR. You aren't going to get the loyalty, looks, sexual energy, and intelligence package with any other group of women IMO.

[Frankypanky]

Much of Northern Europe is great place for the English monoglot, though not all places are good for mongering. The Netherlands apparently has such an unattractive scene these days, that the Dutch mongers prefer to visit the FKK clubs in nearby Germany. At least that is what a Dutch monger told me.

Germany is very good, particularly around Frankfurt or other locations where US, UK and Canadian troops have been stationed long-term. Frankfurt has affordable options, though it is one of my least favorite cities in Germany. I am from Dallas, and the parallels are so strong, I call it "the Dallas of Germany". But, English is like a second language in and around Frankfurt.

As for Brazil, I think it would be worth learning to speak Portuguese for.

At Eszpresszo,

In my humble opinion the Dutch monger is right. Those whom can afford are going to the German FKK-clubs. Much more value for money AND attractive girls also.

The Dutch scene is dead. Old Latina's or scamming Eastern girls, it's all a waste of money. Unless you can get specific info from some Dutch mongerforums, but no 100% guarantee for value.

To answer the topic question. IMHO, I think Thailand offers the best LTR. I have has many fine and nice LTR with Thai-ladies. It is also nice if a country has plenty to offer -besides cheap pussy- in order to relax or experience. Cuba and The Philipines are also nice options.

[Eszpresszo]

I hope this question has't already been done to death: what countries are good to visit where people speak English?

I've been to Brazil (a long time ago) and Philippines (recently). I really like the Latina women, but I can't imagine staying in Brazil so long again as my Portuguese is weak.

Much of Northern Europe is great place for the English monoglot, though not all places are good for mongering. The Netherlands apparently has such an unattractive scene these days, that the Dutch mongers prefer to visit the FKK clubs in nearby Germany. At least that is what a Dutch monger told me.

Germany is very good, particularly around Frankfurt or other locations where US, UK and Canadian troops have been stationed long-term. Frankfurt has affordable options, though it is one of my least favorite cities in Germany. I am from Dallas, and the parallels are so strong, I call it "the Dallas of Germany". But, English is like a second language in and around Frankfurt.

As for Brazil, I think it would be worth learning to speak Portuguese for.

[Michi]

Disagree. For me, Spanish was easy, but not German. Yes, Bahasa Indonesia is the easiest language to learn. Are the Indonesians also the easiest?

Don't know easiest, but high on the list!

Lovely sexy girls too.

[Jack Burton]

German is like English a Germanic language and should be much easier to learn than Spanish.

But the easiert language for a native English speaker to learn should be Bahasa Indonesia. The easiest language in the world.

Disagree. For me, Spanish was easy, but not German. Yes, Bahasa Indonesia is the easiest language to learn. Are the Indonesians also the easiest?

[Jack Burton]

30 minutes hardly qualifies for LTR though...

For some guys, 8 minutes qualifies for LTR. For me, it's more than one shot, so, say 45 minute minimum.

[ShawMan74]

As for LTR and the scene in general.

To put it mildly there is a global talent drain as of the last several years. I mean, with the financial crash, many girls just dropped out because the juice wasn't worth the squeeze (pun intended hehe). So since QE was introduced as a response to the crisis, women have found an abundance of state programs to take advantage of ever since. Couple that with an aging provider population and a dwindling female population worlds wide, and I think we are on the cusp of a dark age in our little hobby.

Forget providers, just girls in general are getting uglier and uglier as they are gravitating to comfort foods (which have become cheaper and more incentive) and absconding from ideals of discipline and exercise. And why should they bother if they are in such high demand due to shortage, right? Their ghetto pimp dealer boyfriends know this too, so they have started edging the worst trait (vanity) in a campaign to absolutely butcher these girls' beauty and therefore their market desirability. The boyfriends are afraid the girls will leave them (and rightfully so) because they ain't worth a second-hand shit in the marketplace of humanity (there is an over-abundant glut of well established men). Bring in feminism across the other flank to make damn sure that all standards are completely eliminated on women and you have the "you better find fat attractive. Or else" phenomenon. So the hot ones are getting mopped up and put on retainer right out of the discos, well before they ever leave high school (the upper 1/10th of 1% have it real good right now).

A reasonably attractive provider, if you can find one, can pretty much write her own ticket and honestly doesn't need your patronage at this point. Besides, nowadays its harder to get drugs than it is to get money for these girls. That's why they go for the dealers to begin with. That is"the fat wallet" aphrodisiac for the girls! (is it a surprise that all the best dealers are state affiliated? It all fits hand in glove).

And there you have it. We are in deeply troubling times.

You know. 25 yrs ago that fat, squat, dysmorphic goblin Kim "ass-trash" turdashian simply wouldn't have been tolerated, let alone deified for her stomach turning twerk movies. Enjoy kylie Jenner while you can, because you KNOW the clock is ticking on her before the same contagious disease that infected Kim will metastasize over to her. Kylie is already twerking. That is the first symptom.

[Haokool]

How can anyone brag about best sex destination providing that women aren't the same -or- how would rate an Asian Shrimp comparing to a Bomba from Hungary?

[AugustYa]

Picking up women in Paris, London, Brussels, Toronto or New York is the same ballpark.

How about Germany? My experience in Germany is Women there are a little tamed.

[Errol Flynn]

So where would you go for LTR?

It's a serious question.

[Minnesotah]

Have you thought about Canada? Vancouver and Toronto perfect English, Montreal some English but more passionate and cheaper, but move fast as the laws may be changing. There is always England.

Canada and Western Europe is ok for short term getaways, but is it not a forum about LTR? In that case, based on the typical member's average expectations, Canada is not any better than US or Western Europe. Sure, almost everybody speaks English in Canada, except for some French people in Quebec and new comers in Vancouver. On the other hand, you cannot think of the Western world women having the same deal with you as you can get in the developing countries. Unless you drive a Lamborghini or you have your own private jet, money won't impress them much as they earn their own and they won't care whatever you come from. Picking up women in Paris, London, Brussels, Toronto or New York is the same ballpark.

[C Jack Sparrow]

I go 100% for a Medellin Trophy Wife.

I have a XL equipment and a medium wallet, education and Nobody beats me intellectually!

But My weakness; I fall for Trophy Wifes and Medellin are full of them.

They are 100% material-girls so it does it's not compalatible!

However, XL-equipment and testosterone supplements, Viagra, Cialis, some valium, Tradamdol and I'm a Genius and a Toro Bravo in one person!

Sideeffects, let's talk about that another day!

If you are a Western Man. You must follow your sexual desire; otherwise frustration will pop-up and passion will disappear.

Take a firm control over the economy, block every attempt to empty your bank account etc.

I have treated this born-hookers as Ladies, and paid heavily losses!

Lately my defense system works wonderfully and I get the babes I want.

I will marry a girl from Medellin.

She beats all the others, since Venezuela is impossible to live in and Brazil has become to expensive.

Then you have a perfect life; a babe with doll face, big silicon breasts, round butt, aerobics muscular legs, a lot of make-up, perfume, lingurie, elegant dress, close fit jeans, high heels; all that you ever dreamt of!

Toro Bravo!

Never forget that you are in charge!

You are the Bull, the Boss!

She will pull every trick she can come up with, even those girls that you believe are 100% honest, LOL!

So just keep the Toro Bravo-control!

She accept it!

It's in her nature to empty your wallet, and it's never enough! Never!

Just remeber that and you can enjoy her positive sides of her personality!

Many girls are very sweet!

And they love sex! With Anglo-Saxon more than anything!

The money issue solved with a FIRM policy, which she will accept, since she has no options, more than prostitute herself!

Incomes are rising, but are still a Joke for us, never forget that!

That's the thing, don't avoid Colombianas, meet them. And beat them!

[Errol Flynn]

Hi Sam,

Wanting an answer to to similar queistion to urs.

Want to go Thailand! But the wifey will wonder why I want to go to Thailand (she knows)(attraction to me is the cost / choice) and I don't like chasing. India sounds good but I think everybody is out to shaft you there. What other countrys are good!! At resonable costs.

What sort of money do you pay in Thailand for couple of pops!! (USD).

Thanks guys, any info is helpfull.

My experience in Thailand is a bit dated so I'm not going to quote prices for sex, but it is cheap. Getting and staying there is the cost.

Given that you're married I think (From personal experience) that the cover story is more important than a few dollars extra per pop. And I think Thailand holds a lot of good cover story and innocent pictures you can take to show the friends back home But please take some dirty ones for us.

If you want a cover you do not want to go to Pattaya, it's way too obvious why a single guy goes there. But, depending on you, and the type of story you want, you can easily go to Phuket, or Bangkok or Issan, or many other places.

I went to Phuket (officially to look at a sailing yacht for an associate, but of course I wanted to see some culture. So I invested in a driver for a day and in rapid succession got pictures of myself (driver obliged and took them) riding an elephant, visiting a Temple, shooting AK=47's at a gun range, visiting an impoverished village, going to the diamond shop, and eating at a beautiful waterfront seafood restaurant (where I posed with the attractive but clearly conservative waitresses for the perfect pictures to take home). Hi Honey, I even met the locals, aren't they sweet and innocent? So at the end of the day I had enough material to cover a week. And I got the rest of the week to play.

Good luck.