Thread: What Country has the Best Women for STR?
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05-07-19 15:37 #847
Posts: 2953Originally Posted by ShinyCrazy [View Original Post]
With Buenos Aires, due to the lack of English, it does present a problem.
Many makes throughout the world are shifting from a "club scene" to an appointment-booking scene. There may be a few Puritans who object to the existence of clubs, but there is also a lot of desired efficiency for the ladies who have less "down-time" prowling the clubs looking for customers.
There are plenty of good sex workers available in Argentina. The issue is finding them. The hot ladies who communicate well in English are charging a significant premium, since there are relatively few of them. The posters who used to contribute heavily to Argentina Private do not seem to be forthcoming with information. Tejano is still an enormous resource at a reasonable cost. I used a different translator / booker years ago, and I think I have lost her contact information, but she was very good.
There are plenty of escorts who advertise online, and those who accept WhatsApp can likely be contacted using Google Translate, but finding good reviews for Buenos Aires escorts has become increasingly difficult.
It isn't really that much easier to get specific reviews of specific escorts in Brazil or Colombia, but the continued existence of places to go where a guy can find a tremendous number of ladies in one place continues to exist in those countries.
Fortunately, the overall service level in Buenos Aires has traditionally been very high, so I suspect taking a chance with even an unreviewed escort might result in a good session.
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05-06-19 19:02 #846
Posts: 286Thanks!
Thanks for the advice. I was also told that the new President closed down all but a handful of clubs, so Tejano Libre and the Internet and Jessica are the main options. Pretty sad that the whole vibrant scene in Argentina has been ruined by a bunch of Puritans. For now, I'll just refocus to Lima / Bogota / Cartagena / Rio. Those seem like the hottest spots in South America, at least measured by activity on the ISG boards. Tejano Libre does seem to have a great reputation, so if I do end up in Buenos Aires, he'll be the first one I'll contact. Thanks again!
Originally Posted by Mongerer88 [View Original Post]
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05-06-19 05:39 #845
Posts: 2953Originally Posted by ShinyCrazy [View Original Post]
He will fix you up with great girls, and his contact information is in the thread.
For the first night you are there, though, you might consider biting the bullet and paying the high prices of Jesica the University Student. She used to get really great reviews on the now defunct big American review site in its Argentina thread, so I think she is top-notch quality, even though her prices are very high for Buenos Aires.
So I do not think the scene is dead. You have two English-speaking leads. You don't even have that in some countries in South America.
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05-06-19 03:47 #844
Posts: 286What's up with Argentina?
While doing some research on Buenos Aires on ISG for a future trip, I got shunted over to the "ArgentinaPrivate" version of ISG. The site mostly has posts from several years ago. The newest posts are garbage posts from scam artists about fake IDs. It looks like the best clubs in Buenos Aires are closed up and even the escort website threads (including the advertiser threads) are deadsville. It is a ghost town. What in the world is up? Anyone know what happened? Did Argentina crack down on mongering?
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05-05-19 20:00 #843
Posts: 1Best place?
Hi all,
I'm going to make a mongering trip at the end of this month. I have about 6-7 days I can travel. I like European women, and I'm totally fine with incall, but I don't mind outcall either. I don't like hassles of trying to deal with independent providers, waiting for them to show up, etc. I was thinking Frankfurt is probably the best place. It has a red light district, the FKK Clubs, multiple escort services, etc. Is Prague similar? I've been to Germany when I was a kid, but never Czech. If you had one place to pick for a mongering trip, where would it be?
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04-01-19 18:13 #842
Posts: 13Originally Posted by Fiddyq8 [View Original Post]
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03-21-19 04:04 #841
Posts: 9Finding a travel partner.
Hi guys,
I was looking on the internet for this and I couldn't find anything helpful so I thought I should ask the professionals: what's the best way to find a girl that will travel with me? I don't mean an escort that will charge by the hour, I mean how or where to find girls willing to travel just to enjoy her time? Should I set my tinder account to a certain country or is there another app / website for that?
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02-23-19 03:17 #840
Posts: 228The economic trifecta for outcalls?
If you a fan of outcall then besides cost of girl then there also cost of good hotel room and ease of booking a girl without haggling / negotiations just call up agency.
Which place has good escort service and cheap quality hotels (4 star above) ?
Using the Hilton as standard of "quality hotel", you can stay at a Hilton in Bangkok for $100 USD a night and food / going out cheap plus good escort scenes easy per smooci.com.
I have found:
SE Asia.
Jakarta is same but no escort scene where I can call up reliable agency and don't have to go hunting in bars.
Kulua Lumpur is almost as good as Bangkok but not enough outcall places that service non-Chinese customers.
Vietnam just too hard find anything.
Hong Hong Macau hotels too expensive.
Singapore hotels and girls too expensive.
Europe.
Barcelona really great selection of girls but good hotels expensive, in call was the best in Barcelona.
Lisbon had pricy hotels and outcall at 150 eur slightly on high side.
Prauge was only incall for me, couldn't find much reliable affordable quality outcall when compared to incall.
Germany FKK brilliant but only incall and fancy hotels expensive.
Middleast.
Abu-dhabi good hotels but population of girls small, so keep seeing same girls.
Still need to try:
Philippines.
Madrid.
Vienna.
Budapest.
South America.
But I would like to find another trifecta city like Bangkok. Is there another hidden gem of a city out there?
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02-21-19 22:36 #839
Posts: 2953Originally Posted by Gsi2810 [View Original Post]
Madrid is a higher elevation and gets colder than Barcelona. Lisbon and Athens are south of Barcelona from a latitude perspective and perhaps a few degrees warmer, but not by too much.
All three have string mongering scenes in my opinion.
Lisbon has a strong orientation toward whites women, but is somewhat outcall-oriented. A lot of ISG guys seem to prefer incall. You can get incall in Lisbon, but it is perhaps not quite as easy to figure out for tourists as other cities.
Barcelona has relatively inexpensive incall, featuring a combination of local white women (Spaniards are perhaps a little darker skinned than Portuguese) and South Americans. Note that many Venezuelans are actually beautiful white women. The best incall places in Barcelona are Vecinitas, El Eden, teensbcn and Sinners.
Athens is not a city I know much about. Its incall seems to consist of shorter duration sessions that do not seem to be as GFE as Lisbon or Barcelona, from what I have read. I am rather insistent on getting BBBJ instead of CBJ, and I read too many CBJ reports for Athens incall for my tastes. Athens outcall is not as well-reviewed as Lisbon outcall, and Athens outcall seems more dominated by Russian agencies that upsell.
You should read all three threads to match up to your preferences.
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02-21-19 21:58 #838
Posts: 55Warm places
Hi guys, I do my reading on these forums and thanks for the wonderful ideas. I generally monger in Asia (Thailand mostly) and I would like to expand to Europe and try out white girls (have always eluded me) I have done my reading here and there but I'm generally a bit tied up during the summers, I travel mainly during autumn end or early spring or even winter (October-March) during this time most European countries get too cold for my liking, I like having somewhat warmer places to monger (it actually effects my performance LOL). I have long wanted to go to Berlin and explore FKKs but it gets as cold as 3 degree Celsius. I can go up to as cold as 10 degree Celsius maybe even 7, would be very thankful if good mongering destinations are recommended here for me. Would of course do my own reading to the leads given. Cheers.
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01-01-19 22:43 #837
Posts: 2672Worldwide Thoughts
So Newton, a few thoughts for you.
Mark Seoul and Taipei off your list. I was in Seoul last year and for a westerner it is a pussy wasteland. I am super deep on my research but in Seoul I could only come up with a happy ending massage. Really tough venue. Researched Taipei enough to know it's not much better.
Definitely read the Macau thread if you are considering that. My impression is it's gone downhill a lot.
As far as places I've been that I would recommend, I tend to like the club scene where you might party a bit and "try out" various girls before making a selection. So your whole night is 3-5 hours long with one or two hours of that as in-room time. Given that framework:
Sao Paulo Brazil. Best Bang for the buck hands down. Several hours in a nice club and leave with a stunner who is going to give you quite a ride. $200-300. Very high class feel. Like going to a top nightclub (called a Boate) where all the girls want to fuck you.
Bangkok Thailand. Truly the least expensive option amongst these, but hit and miss. Be prepared to have a mix of good and bad experiences. And this has a wild carnival type feel to it, which can be good or bad. And unlike other destinations you dont settle in to one club here. There are hundreds. You might stroll between 3-5 different clubs during your selection time. $100-150.
Frankfurt Germany. Of course the legendary FKK. Still a good value and a ton of fun despite being even better "in the good ole days" $200-$800 depending how many times you want to go to the room! Personally I can't resist going less than 3 times and girls are always coming around so it is hard to just chill.
Moscow Russia The clubs themselves can be on the expensive side for drinks bar fine etc. But the girls are well priced. Great gogo atmosphere and facilities. Imagine a really nice US strip club, but you can take any girl, including dancers, waitresses and bar maids and go do the nasty. Lots of fun. $300-400.
Many other options for incall outcall and brothels at these and all the other destinations you note. But for a complete end to end club and girl experience these are the best I have been to.
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01-01-19 15:04 #836
Posts: 118Good luck
Originally Posted by NewtonYork [View Original Post]
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01-01-19 06:41 #835
Posts: 2953Newton York,
You should delete Santiago, Chile from your list. It doesn't deserve to be mentioned along with the fine places you wrote about.
You should definitely research São Paulo and PM AltobomGosto about his guide services. Some of the most trusted posters on ISG, including Hungrystud, Steve9696, TheCane and WyattEarp say favorable things about the place. The incalls have published addresses, so it ain't like you have to wonder the streets. If you look on TripAdvisor, there are a lot of biking and guided walking tours that are not expensive and would give you some recreation.
It is easy to complain about the USA, but don't forget that one of the reasons the sex is so much less expensive outside the US is that the same job you do in the US likely pays 1/2 to 1/3rd of that amount in those other countries.
As I said in the other thread, I would consider a Madrid & Barcelona trip in addition to the ones you listed, although there is less opportunity in Spain to look and interact with a lot of affordable ladies prior to fucking one of them.
Asia is really far from the US, and if you weren't that into Bangkok, I doubt that Hong Kong, Macau, or Tokyo is really going to please you.
Many of the other places in Europe you mentioned (other than Germany and Prague) are relatively expensive and not that tourist-friendly. In addition to Spain, I would put Lisbon on the list before Warsaw, Budapest, and Vienna / Bratislavia. But Lisbon is like Montreal in that it is escort (both incall and outcall) by appointment oriented, instead of having lots of ladies awaiting your arrival.
If the Mansion is available, and you like hanging out at a hotel, Medellin is an excellent choice, obviously. You should read the Medellin thread for information. I think the other South American and a Central American destinations you listed (the ones other than Brazil and Colombia) are going to be too much of a hassle if you aren't fluent in Spanish.
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01-01-19 05:06 #834
Posts: 259Theoretical, hypothetical options. Can't afford to go just yet.
Thanks to Mongerer88 for letting me know this thread exists. It's great to be able to compare and contrast.
It's been an age since I've posted anything. (I'm mostly in the Prague thread) I just started again to try to stay sane, I'm posting up older reports from my time in Germany, I still am more or less retired from the hobby but I feel like I need to report on my my last mongering trip to Germany some time ago. It was a good trip, something akin to a last hurrah for me, until I can come up with the cash to do it again, but that won't be in a while. I lost count of the number of chicks I banged, but I'm glad to say I was finally able to experience what a real FKK was like. And that really got me thinking, and I'm here just to rant more than anything else because it's just depressing fellas. Think about it, if you live in Germany, and you feel horny, what do you do? You got so many options for sex it's just mind-boggling. You could walk into your local FKK and stay there for hours and take your time picking the chick you want to bang. Over time, months even, you get to know the stable of chicks you like and connect with, and every other day you get new chicks coming in. I was stunned, really freaking stunned when I was there. I just couldn't believe how lucky the average german fella is because of all the options he has. Words can't describe it.
The point is dudes, where I am and where I'm from, it's a sexual wasteland. Feeling horny, what are my options here? Pretty bad, that's what it is. You want something nice, you got to pay premium prices, and anything else is just some rub and tug that ain't worth it. Even Canadians have it better with the sexual wonderland that's Montreal (escorts mainly). Even Singapore has Geylang where you could roam for literally hours just looking. Once in a while you find a real gem that rocks your world there. And although I've been hearing of the slow deterioration of the privat scene in Prague, they at least still have a scene, and still some brothels, so it's still way, way better than here. I feel tired of the lack of options where I live. I wish I had the options of Germany, Prague, Thailand, Singapore, etc, etc and on and on. Hong Kong, Japan, even Seoul. Places that have actual real life, legal and semi-legal red light districts.
Over the years, I've started to really and truly appreciate the joyous world of mongering. Straightforward and simple. How much, what do I get, let's fuck. The fact that I got to save cash and then plan over time to be able to go on a blow-out sexcapade is frustrating, because just imagine if I could, say, after work one day, take a train or walk down to the local red light area, or brothel and just fuck. And then go home. I tell ya, you fellas that live in Germany, Austria, Spain, etc. You guys are a lucky bunch. I'm just saying. And that's my rant.
It's something, my time in Germany. I'm glad I experienced it. Was it all perfect? No, but there was much more good than bad, and even all this time later I still am able to remember a few of my favorite fucks. I got to fuck romanians, polish, germans, spanish, bulgarians, etc, and of course was very lucky to find some czechs as well. Maybe it's my pro-czech stance but I've found them to be the best service-wise. Overall, the chicks in the FKK's run the gamut of not willing to kiss to outright awesome deep french tongue battle kissing action. From what I remember, practically all of them gave BBBJ. But the strangest thing was one of my better fucks was at Breitte Gasse in Frankfurt, a very attractive spanish speaking younger MILF type. Everything was covered, but her body was just stupid hot, and for some reason her pussy was tight, like fucking-awesome-made-me-cum-easy tight. She had such a beautiful face. I basically fell in love with her. In my time in Frankfurt, I went to see her 3 times I think. I got her name in the notes, will be in the full report. (in the Frankfurt thread).
Okay, so to the point here, let's say hypothetically I had cash enough for one crazy sex trip, where would I go?
Possible options (never been to, want to checkout) :
Hong Kong / Macau combo. The spa / saunas of Macau are apparently world famous, with a variety of options and nationalities. Prices are on the higher side, almost ridiculously so. Hong Kong itself has those seedier one woman apartment type deals. A little curious about them. Plenty of touristy stuff to partake in while recuperating between fucks.
Warsaw. I have always been very curious about this 'Club Imperium' by the airport. Not too much has been written about it, but from what little I've gathered, it's okay. That whole 'odloty' thing is worth a look-see too, though again from what I can tell, it's not so easy for us english speakers. Apparently a lot of brothels randomly here and there, but unable to find much information on them. Looks like a good deal of touristy stuff to occupy my time in between getting laid. And from what I understand, some of the hotels have escorts in the bars. I've always been fascinated by that.
Vienna / Bratislava combo. It goes without saying that Vienna has options. Laufhauses, FKK's, etc. With Maxim Club seeming to be on everyone's to do list, but at 200 euros an hour, it seems kind of pricey to me. From what I've read, some of the brothels come in at 100 euros an hour, so not too bad, and the city itself has a lot of touristy things to check out, not to mention a pretty straightforward trip to nearby Bratislava. Might even be enough time to check out Bratislava's brothels while there.
Brazil: On the recommendation of a fellow hobbyist, but I might be too chicken shit to go here. With the way I am, I'd be mugged within 10 min of arrival. But I'm going to do some real research and go through the Sau Paulo thread, give it a real chance before I come to a conclusion.
Tokyo: Tokyo Hentai Club. Period.
Possible options (been to, thinking maybe going again) :
Prague: I love czech women. It goes without saying that even when I was in Germany, the best fucks I had there was with the czech girls. Scanning the pages here, while it's sad that many of our most favorite privats are no longer around, privat [CodeWord900] looks like a good option. And I can always spend hours just roaming the halls of showpark. (This was when it was cheapt though) I spent a great deal of time wearing the soles of my shoes down just going around in circles there way back when. Sweet paradise is ok too. And I wouldn't mind spending a few hours with Wendy Moon or Kattie Gold. After my experience with Lucie Theorodova, I definitely want to fuck me another pornstar.
Bangkok: Cheap. That's one word to describe it. The women are okay. Looks wise, they can't match the eastern european beauties. Performance wise, they're ok, but put it this way fellas. The worst I ever had in Prague, was still better than the worst I had in Bangkok. While Bangkok wasn't a total disaster, I did have some good ones, I had 2 of the worst mongering experiences I have ever had in my entire hobbying career. If I created a top-ten list of worst mongering fucks ever, the number 1 and 2 slots would be from Bangkok. Granted, I fucked a lot while I was there because it was cheap, so the law of averages definitely would mean I'd come across bad ones at some point, but man they were bad. Makes me afraid now to go back. But then again it's cheap. It's not just the girls that are cheap, but the hotels too. For me, I'm flying half way round the world staying at five star hotels, and its cheaper than Europe even though Europe is just across the Atlantic? The math is just better. And the last time I was there I dedicated most of my time to chicks, so there's still some touristy stuff to be done.
Frankfurt: Fkks and Bahnohfvierstel. Nuff said.
Possible options but unlikely for any number of reasons:
Jakarta, Medellin, Panama City, Santiago De Chile, Lima. Cheap but seems too dangerous and messy to me. If I was a manlier man with some huge cojones, I'd go to these places in a heartbeat. But with the way I am, I'd be ripped apart to shreds before I even left the airport. I won't lie to you, the mega-brothels of Jakarta I've been reading about seem like paradise to me, the prices are okay, the nationalities that can be found is surprising to say the least, but I just don't know. It's definitely something to think about.
Berlin. Now, having been to all over south and south-west Germany, Berlin might seem like a retread, and FKK Artemis is apparently pricier and without much competition either (that's why I chose Frankfurt way back when), and my main reason to visit Berlin is gone. One of my all time had-to-fucks was Lora Gora. She's got great reviews out there. But so much time has passed since I first learned about her, that I wonder if she still looks great.
Seoul, Taipei, - While they have red light districts, it doesn't seem as foreigner friendly, especially Seoul with just Hooker Hill. And I've had my fair share of Korean and Chinese chicks, not too interested in that much no more. Although to be fair, the best single fuck I have ever had in my life was with a Korean chick, but she was here in the States, not in Korea. And I just don't know about the touristy stuff to do there. Doesn't seem like much.
Budapest. That whole 'Rosszlanyok' thing definitely kept me thinking. It seems easier to use than 'odloty', I saw some real stunners there, and they seem to be viable for us foreigner types. I figure it's about looking at profiles that have reviews, and those that have some reviews in english probably means they fucked someone who spoke english, so it's looking on the up and up. But somehow the city itself doesn't appeal to me much. Not sure why.
Ok, so what do you guys think? Given one place and say a week to monger, where should I go? Given the experiences I've had, I'd prefer quality over volume, so in that regard, Prague and Frankfurt wins. I really want to try me some Colombian cities, but I'm too scared to try. Too much of a pussy to give it a shot.
This is all theoretical and hypothetical of course, if I was a rich man, I'd go to all these places now and never stop. I just wrote all this stuff down some time ago when I actually had the time and money, just never got around to posting, and I didn't know where to post. I didn't know this thread existed in the ISG. This thread is a good place as any to compare cities and countries.
There's a part of me that just wants to say, fuck it, I'm going to Prague again. But there's something about going back to the same place over and over again that doesn't sit too well with me. The world's a huge place, and I'm not a rich man, money's tight, so for the same price, a new city for new experiences is always preferred. But lacking options, I can settle for Prague again.
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11-27-18 13:44 #833
Posts: 2953Thanks.
Thanks ChristianG and XXL.
I had hoped my negative impression of The Castle in Pattaya was just me, but it sounds like it wasn't.
I described what I was interested in at The Castle (which was pretty standard) and the madam said only one girl did that, and she was hideous looking. The Madam quoted a really high price by Thailand standards and kept saying it was time for my mandatory drink, so I said fuck it and left. Honestly, a lot of fetish is best with an independent escort in your hotel room, but that requires that she either bring the correct toys, or the customer needs to put his own stuff in his checked baggage while traveling.
That is one of the reasons I mentioned the Madrid place that has a facility with its own toys and implements and ladies that dom, switch and sub. Unfortunately, the madam uses a landline and only speaks English. That is ridiculous that there is no cell phone with WhatsApp to communicate with Google Translate in this day and age, and we just don't have reports of English-speaking guys who just showed up. They do welcome walk-in (according to the website). I will definitely go on my next Madrid trip and report back. Last time I booked an escort offering what I wanted, but that escort is no longer active. But perhaps we will get some English language reports before then.
I also mentioned Madrid because it is relatively less expensive for fetish than other places. As XXL mentioned, fetish is more of a developed world thing. New York City has a truly top-notch escort group specializing in fetish, but the rates are $550-$700 an hour, which is not of interest to most ISG guys.
And that makes it difficult to rank the best cities. London has a huge fetish scene, but is still expensive by worldwide standards. I have always been disappointed by the lack of detailed reviews on the most inexpensive option, The London Submissive Girls (many of whom seem to be switches in addition to subs). Their reviews on the various boards are very good, but there are not many details regarding important items like BBBJ versus CBJ. Maybe they tell customers that they don't like explicit details. For someone who wants fetish in addition to traditional sexual activities, this affordable independent London lady (slightly outside the city) has incall at her place and received an excellent review here on ISG, in addition to having excellent reviews on the London local boards (and offering BBBJTCIM).
https://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfil...UserID=1974272
Search the London thread for Sweet Petite Sarah to read her ISG review in case this link doesn't go through.
Montreal and Prague are a little bit less expensive than London.
I should have mentioned that Prague also has an independent escort who likes light fetish (both dom and sub) who gets excellent ISG reviews, Louise Pearl, and speaks English.
https://louisepearl.nl/our-date/
And Montreal has another agency offering both incall and outcall with ladies offering fetish. I previously mentioned the excellent Unicorns agency that specializes in fetish. But a person should give Mikes Mansion a look, also. Note that the ladies at Mikes Mansion upcharge for fetish. Of particular interest would be the well reviewed April Rose. Rojeraims1 mentioned pegging, and if it were me, I would choose someone who accepts anal on her or clearly does it a lot. You don't necessarily want an inexperienced escort doing that activity on you if she isn't either experienced in doing that on a lot of guys and / or experienced in getting it done to her.
http://www.mikesmansion.com/models.php
Finally, I couldn't open XXL's link for Germany, so here it is.
https://www.rotelaterne.de/bizarr
And thanks for his explanation of why you never see good ads with explicit language for German subs and switch BDSM providers. I presume the activity goes on in Germany, it is just not advertised or mentioned. That presumably explains why Suzie Blue tamed down the Submissive ad section of her website when she started alternating between London and Berlin. Previously her reviews on the big American review board were mostly for her as a sub, but she does both dom and sub according to her ad.
http://suzie.blue/what-i-like/
My concern about South America is the lack of English with a lot of providers. Not quite sure how you find what you want in the fetish world there unless you speak English since technological communication is not as good as it is for Europe.
That is all I know.