Thread: What Country has the Best Women for STR?
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11-15-05 21:02 #187
Posts: 416Nobsock, i think I might try to make your life harder, in a good way.
St Pete: be careful that the guy is a pimp or promoter. If you like that sort of proportion, Asia could be a good choice. American / European girls get fat at 12, while Asian women more like at 22. Legs are a bit weak, a bit short, but proportion not bad even if they are small. Since many girls cannot afford breast enhancement in developing countries, I always go for those who don't need it, as in the picture, or Asian girls. BTW, say Argentina is 80% European decedents. However, many of the working girls in BA are not locals, imports, from Brazil, neighboring countries. Eastern Euro girls are all over Western European, Asia, US. Maybe it end up cheaper if you exchange the air ticket for a few hookers at home.
Be careful of internet pictures of girls taken professionally. I know because I'm in LA. If you believe everything, then LA has the most beautiful girls in the world if you look at any escort malls.
Brazil: I have seen lots of Brazilians like that, good. But the problem is, the asking price is $200 USD for two hours. You may pay a lot less, but you understand the problem is. $100 USD isn't a lot in say HK, but buy you the best 141 girls for one shot, about an hour. For that you go to heaven in Macau. Even cheaper in China, but the problem is distance and it's illegal. And then Thai, PI etc, certainly a lot less to live in than HK Singapore.
Language: I would add that there are several levels, whether the working girls speak your language, whether the girls specilized for tourists speak your language, and whether the management speak your language.
If you go to school in Germany (West), you speak almost perfect BBC English, better than the British. Just in London, you have East end and West end accent, South London, etc. Dutch - similiar fluency as they are a tiny but great trading nation. French - they understand English, possibly speak well, but they don't admit it in public. Italy - they love USA. So if a girls work near Europe, her 2nd language is probably English, because most Euro Johns can handle it. Don't know about Russia, but Czech girls who speak English does it quite well - European tongue.
Asia - totally non-European tongue. They all try to speak at least ho English. The fresh young ones may not speak English, but they start to learn a little when they start the work, perfect when they work in tourist bars and earn their place in the export list. In Thai, waiters, hotel drivers all speak English, so you get by very well. Actually after an allnighter, I pulled a room service guy into my room to translate what my girl try to say. She wanted me to bring her to Pattiya (from BKK!). I would love to but it was just a lay over. We got along well and she knew I would if I could.
Chinese too difficult to learn. Spanish, you have the whole continent, apart from portuguese Brazil, which probably worth the effort to learn. It's worthwhile to learn Spannish in LA, but I ain't a big fan of Latinas. I would love to learn a little bit of Korean for fun, but the economics may change, Korean and US politicals may change so the Korean girls may not come in numbers any more in say a couple of years.
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11-14-05 22:09 #186
Posts: 2626language
Dinghy,
Thanks for the 2 satang...
Yeah, I am sure it is possible to learn passable Thai with some effort, but for the short term monger choosing a destination for the first time or thinking of an alternate destination to his traditional haunt, its important to understand if he will be able to communicate.
Phillipines: almost certainly
Holland: probably
Germany: maybe
Russia: unlikely
Thailand: not at all likely
Sure some Thai pros speak ho English, but with most commo wasnt really possible. Maybe it was just me, but I didnt find many cute girls with language skills beyond the absolute basics. Usually, communicating wasnt necessary to have fun, but sometimes I missed it.
In Holland you will find English-speaking pros, but will have to be clever and lucky to find those that also perform well. The pros are often hardened and street-wise, clever at milking tourists.
In Germany's FKKs maybe a third speak English with a fair degree of fluency and the performance is really consistent, but the romance usually ends after 30-60 minutes... no affordable take home option.
In Dubai you find well-performing affordable English-speaking pros from every corner of the globe, but its expensive to get to and stay there...
etc.
Ability to communicate is only one category, and probably not the most significant, but I find it greatly affects my mongering fun in longterm stays.
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11-14-05 21:41 #185
Posts: 1584Hey Doc - Thai language is an "acquired thing". Except that it is "tonal" (what to the western ear sonds like the same word in different tones is actually several different words) iIt's not all that difficult - just a vocabulary development thing.
but that's my 2 cents..er kopecks...er satang ..er centavos
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11-14-05 20:40 #184
Posts: 2626mongering destination profiling
Adding to JamesD2004, some other things to be considered:
cultural comfort: will you be able to fit in with the mongering scene? do certain situations make you uncomfortable?
female racial types and preferences: guys who like buxom, voloptuous girls wont find much in Thailand, but may go buck wild in Africa...
type of service: for example in Russia or Thailand you can take a girl to the hotel or apartment for the night for relatively little money, in Germany or Europe this kind of service is virtually unaffordable
Down time, vacationing value: is there anything to do in Quito when not mongering? Is Pattaya more than just an outdoor brothel?
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11-14-05 19:59 #183
Posts: 416I have been thinking of compiling something systematically in the line of Dr Skank's idea. Since somebody actually asks, let me add something quick.
Yes, the most important thing is you. Length of stay is important. If you have just one week, cheap sex isn't meaningful. Flying 4 hours is a lot better than 12 hours.
Get to know the reporters profile helps. If you don't speak Spannish, South, Central America isn't that attractive as the reports said. Many excellent reporters are Spannish speakers and became semi locals. Your price and your choice is different, a lot different. Whereas in say Thailand, everybody is equal as nobody speaks Thai. All working in the tourist industry dealing with customers speaks English, including many working girls, but probably not the new fresh ones, or imported ones from neighboring countries. English is a lot more common in PI.
Budget - I would compare well known establishments in different countries with little variation in price and large selections. If the town has only a few bars, and you have to negiotate with the girls over a large price range and service, you may be disappointed even though you have reliable information. She may just decide not to give you that price and that service.
And for all-nighters, compare the sure thing rather than - if she likes you, and in slow times, she might go home with you for a reasonable price. Asia is more affordable. And looking for quality, if you double the price in some quality establishments, will you get twice as much and an unforgettable time? In many places you just get walked over.
As for yourself, are you comfortable doing it in FKK? Hanging out in bars? Or just pick a girl and bring her to your hotel? What sort of hotels are you comfortable with?
Non-mongering activities? Either you can go around with ease or better still, afford an English speaking driver for a day or a few. Best of all, bring the girl with you on your day trips, often freebie for all nighters. Language is important but it's surprisingly fun if you just get along without common language.
Your risk levels? Check CIA countries reports. Say HK has proven itself in the SARS saga, and major hospitals have doors as in star treck. Now free flu vaccine to all at risk group. Not the bird flu vaccine, but to free up resources if anything happen again. And they just need to stock pile a few mil bird flu vaccine when available to give everybody a shot. Not possible in any other countries.
Just some random thoughts.
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11-14-05 19:55 #182
Posts: 106Young and Fit
Originally Posted by Sam5935
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11-14-05 19:32 #181
Posts: 446Hello Nobsock
Just think about what kind of girls you like.
If you speak Spanish or if you want to learn it, I would advise you some countries in Central or South America.
If you only speak English and you like Asian girls, Filipine would be good.
I mean these countries if you want more than only p4p aspect, if you want to talk with the girls, to go out with them....
Spanish is easy to learn for Europeans or Americans, much more easier than any Asian languages or Russian....
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11-14-05 15:03 #180
Posts: 2626destination unknown
Nobsock:
The best one country will depend on your budget and tastes, as well as your language abilities.
For example Thailand is probably the easiest access location, there is an entire infrastructure built around it in areas of Bangkok and Pattaya. Its also fairly cheap and if you like Asian women, you will definitely find something to suit your taste and budget. However real communication with the girls is virtually impossible and spending any time outside of the bedroom with the girls can be mind-numbingly boring.
Places like Prague and Ukraine have women more culturally in tune with us, but the destinations themselves as well as the p4p girls are more expensive than Thailand. Language is less of a problem as some girls (rare also) will speak enough English to communicate with you.
If you narrow down your query a bit... indicating budget, preference in women etc... I am sure others can help you select your destination.
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11-11-05 19:08 #179
Posts: 11You can't go wrong with Thailand. My expereince also is that if you're relatively young and fit, you can bypass the whole p4p thing as the women want to hang out with you anyway. However, even if you go the p4p route, there is just sooooo much to choose from!
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11-06-05 18:51 #178
Posts: 11Hmmm, well I've only been to Thailand of the list you gave. I instantly found a lovely Thai gal and spent a week in Bangkok with her. I stayed in her apartment, met her friends, and didn't pay a dime. In fact, until I expressely asked her to stop, she was paying for almost everything!
I think I'm going to head to the Philippines in January. I hear they're pretty flirtatious there. I live in San Francisco and they're are really into the tall, white guy type here!
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11-06-05 17:12 #177
Posts: 446Hello Sam,
I think there are many countries to meet non-pros. If you will stay a few weeks, it's even much better to go out with one of them or more....
Best countries
That's not my personal experience, but I have read a lot on this forum and some others...
Nearly all countries of Central America.
Paraguay, Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia in South America.
China, Thailand, Philipin, Cambodia, Indonesia in Asia
Belarus, Ukraine, Russia(save Moskow and St-Petersburg).
Many countries in Africa
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11-06-05 07:23 #176
Posts: 26Sam5935,
Go to the PI without doubt. You can tons of non-pros in Manila, or better yet Cebu.
Sajer
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10-30-05 17:57 #175
Posts: 11Best country for non-pros??
Anyone here have an opinion as to the best places to go as a tall, fit, 31-year-old white guy to just have fun, flirt, play around with non-pro locals? I've been to several mongering sites before and found that lots of places, if you're willing to be patient and don't mind if you turn up empty handed sometimes, you can meet plenty of non-pro girls.
I am planning a trip for the winter,probably Asia again and want to get opinions here as to what countries you can go get some fun attention from the locals. Thanks!
I realize that this is all subjective and up for interpretation but your best guess is appreciated!
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09-30-05 13:09 #174
Posts: 135Not exactly
Originally Posted by One Wing Low
However, if your idea of everthing includes a naked chica, a bj, some minimal involvement on her part, more time, just as examples, expect to bargain in detail (in the street) and pay quite a bit more.
TJ has enjoyable experiences available, SGs are just one option, but expect to pay in the $60-80 range. Spanish and good negotiating skills a real plus.
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09-26-05 07:00 #173
fka Captain Solo
Posts: 2409$20 short time in Tijuana
There are many good looking SWs willing to do everything for $20 in the Zona Roja not to far from the US border.
Their good looks and their good attitudes beat Asia by a wide margin.