Thread: The Morality of Prostitution
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07-21-14 04:35 #4283
Posts: 5Originally Posted by Donovan7 [View Original Post]
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07-02-14 14:21 #4282
Posts: 539On P4 P
The reality is that most women grow out of sex by about 30, and many men do not. Part of this is because we get close to 100% orgasm rate and get about a 20%. This mismatch is answered by financial handcuffs, frustration or P4 P, overt or covert. It is certainly the case in the West and in Asia, given the number of Asian mongers I come accross. I think its part of the human condition. Sure, the demands of children / career creep in, but the typical male still wants it and does not get it. Women assume their lack of urge is the same as ours. A fatal error.
So rather than starve, we hunt, and hence this forum. It's natural, and few percent of women have catered to that need for thousands of years. Eventually the male gets smart and realises marriage is a con, or they don't have go without. We often deceive to segment real emotions. And often guilt mistaken for love. From a very real physical need that is unmet. Its not just going to a restaurant for a change: its a question of starving and no food at all.
This duality and tension is why women hate P4 P: power, freedom of the male and clarity of what relationships really mean if they fail to meet basic needs and we are not enough of a priority. The P4 P girls are catalysts for this epiphany. That is an existential issue and so why their reaction is so strong.
Like so many here, I'm transitioning from the fairytale that underwrites female power to being a free agent, real friends for emotional and intellectual needs where I find them and P4 P other bits, decoupling the notion a female can cover it all. Some might, but the majority do not.
Let's celebrate our freedom and choice. Tell the feminazis to sod off with their jedi mind games. Enough said, time to focus on hotties having their tonsils massaged and skin tingling pleasure. We only live once.
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07-02-14 14:15 #4281
Posts: 539On P4 P
The reality is that most women grow out of sex by about 30, and many men do not. Part of this is because we get close to 100% orgasm rate and get about a 20%. This mismatch is answered by financial handcuffs, frustration or P4 P, overt or covert. It is certainly the case in the West and in Asia, given the number of Asian mongers I come accross. I think its part of the human condition. Sure, the demands of children / career creep in, but the typical male still wants it and does not get it. Women assume their lack of urge is the same as ours. A fatal error.
So rather than starve, we hunt, and hence this forum. It's natural, and few percent of women have catered to that need for thousands of years. Eventually the male gets smart and realises marriage is a con, or they don't have go without. We often deceive to segment real emotions. And often guilt mistaken for love. From a very real physical need that is unmet. Its not just going to a restaurant for a change: its a question of starving and no food at all.
This duality and tension is why women hate P4 P: power, freedom of the male and clarity of what relationships really mean if they fail to meet basic needs and we are not enough of a priority. The P4 P girls are catalysts for this epiphany. That is an existential issue and so why their reaction is so strong.
Like so many here, I'm transitioning from the fairytale that underwrites female power to being a free agent, real friends for emotional and intellectual needs where I find them and P4 P other bits, decoupling the notion a female can cover it all. Some might, but the majority do not.
Let's celebrate our freedom and choice. Tell the feminazis to sod off with their jedi mind games. Enough said, time to focus on hotties having their tonsils massaged and skin tingling pleasure. We only live once.
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06-04-14 04:54 #4280
Posts: 126Has Germany become the bordello of Europe?
A very interesting article on the bbc.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26261221
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06-03-14 20:10 #4279
Posts: 61More NGO lies about the sex trade are exposed -
Somaly Mam & the Cult Of Pretty Victims
http://news.yahoo.com/somaly-mam-cult-pretty-victims-172000455--politics.html;_ylt=AwrBEiGjGY5TG2kAUvLQtDMD
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06-01-14 11:18 #4278
Posts: 267Just a biz deal
Prostitution can be nothing more than an agreement between two consenting adults.
It becomes a problem when kids or making others do it against their will.
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05-31-14 20:22 #4277
Posts: 3Prostitution is morally wrong behavior, but I'm all for legalizing it. I think if it's regulated and taxed relentlessly it would be a lot safer and provide some financial gain.
It's going to happen regardless is illegal or not.
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05-30-14 17:45 #4276
Posts: 191Will there be fallout for the NGOs?
"WITH a sensational story of surviving child sex slavery in Cambodia, Somaly Mam became a worldwide icon, the best-selling author of a memoir and the head of a foundation raising millions in the name of saving girls and women from the sex trade...But all this wasn't true.".
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/30/op...f=opinion&_r=0
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05-21-14 04:29 #4275
Posts: 267A wise man once said
I spent half my money on gambling, alcohol and wild women, the other half I wasted.
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04-16-14 21:56 #4274
Posts: 450What you really mean is.
Originally Posted by Paul Kausch [View Original Post]
Sly
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04-16-14 21:48 #4273
Posts: 258Originally Posted by Paul Kausch [View Original Post]
But how do asexuals fit in to this worldview?
And, though as you've rightly stated that sex has nothing to do in a mental sense, with procreation- one can't possibly ignore the instinct that motivates the act. Testosterone. We are no different from rats, dogs and other mammals. To think so is a fallacy. And I am not sure if the three holes theory that you have put forth is defensible in that, dogs (for eg.) in heat have been known to masturbate by rubbing themselves on a human's leg.
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03-24-14 06:11 #4272
Posts: 354Prostitution: What's the Harm?
http://docuwiki.net/index.php?title=...7s_the_Harm%3F
In this BBC documentary Billie JD Porter goes in search of the human face of the prostitution business in Britain, talking to the young men who routinely pay for sex about why they do it, and to the young women who sell their bodies about what's in it for them.
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03-21-14 17:16 #4271
Posts: 2927Hawaiian PIGS: Let Us Keep Having Sex With Prostitutes
By Rob Quinn, Newser Staff.
Posted Mar 21, 2014 4:18 AM CDT.
(NEWSER) – Cops in Hawaii are fighting to keep what they describe as an important legal protection: Permission to have sex with prostitutes. A state bill cracking down on prostitution originally scrapped an exemption allowing undercover officers to have sex with prostitutes, but it was controversially restored after police testimony, the AP finds. Police won't say how often the exemption is used, but critics argue that it leaves the system wide open to abuse, noting that there have been many cases nationwide of police officers extorting sex from prostitutes.
The chief of Honolulu's vice squad argued the exemption is necessary because prostitutes and pimps are otherwise "going to know exactly how far the undercover officer can and cannot go." A former FBI agent who trained vice squads around the country for 20 years, however, says he doesn't know of any other state or federal law that allows undercover officers to do what the Hawaii law allows."Isn't one of the biggest questions here just why, exactly, Hawaii needs a exemption like this for their sex sting operations and none of the other law enforcement agencies in other states need one?" asks Rebecca Rose at Jezebel."They seem to be able to bust prostitutes and pimps in other states just fine without allowing their officers to engage in sexual acts."
http://www.newser.com/story/184122/h...campaign=story
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03-21-14 00:52 #4270
Posts: 1070Sex, lies and statistics
http://www.economist.com/news/united...stics?fsrc=nlw|hig|3-20-2014|8090612|119826733|AP.
'IT'S hard out here for a pimp, ' complains the Three 6 Mafia, a rap group. A new study by the Urban Institute, a think-tank, casts doubt on this assertion. After investigating the sex trade in eight big American cities, researchers concluded that pimps can do rather well for themselves. Some in Atlanta bring in $33, 000 a week, the study estimates.
Tracking the sex trade is hard. It is legal only in parts of Nevada. Elsewhere there are no receipts; researchers relied instead on interviews with lawyers, police, prostitutes and pimps. Their fat report, commissioned by the Justice Department, brought squeals of pleasure from journalists everywhere, who tended to play up evidence that the oldest profession is booming.
But it doesn't appear to be. In five out of seven cities, the underground sex industry shrank between 2003 and 2007, the study found. (In one place, Kansas City, Missouri, there was not enough evidence to decide.) In Washington, DC, takings fell by 34. In Denver, with a population of 2. 5m in 2007 if you include the suburbs, the sex trade grossed a mere $40m. The demand for sex probably does not change much over time, but other things do.
A century ago, when sexual mores were stricter, prostitution was more common and better paid (see table). Men's demand for commercial sex was higher because the non-commercial sort was harder to obtain—there was no premarital hook-up culture. Women were attracted to prostitution in part because their other job opportunities were so meagre. And they commanded high wages partly because the social stigma was so great—without high pay, it was not worth enduring it.
The price for a trick today ranges from miserable ($15) to ample ($1, 000 or more). Prostitutes have many options besides street-walking. The internet makes it easier for them to set up 'dates' and negotiate prices, and harder for the police to catch them. They feel less vulnerable using social-media sites than doing the 'stroll'. But 36% nonetheless report that some clients were violent or abusive.
Pimps, who are often women, tend to follow a business plan. They impose rules, such as 'no drugs' or 'no young clients' (who are more likely than older men to be violent). They are flexible with pricing, offering special deals for loyal customers and swiftly adapting to economic downturns. A third of pimps delegate management, training and even recruitment to an experienced employee called a 'bottom girl'. About 15% admitted to beating up their staff. Others, however, thought violence was bad for business. One pimp said: 'One bad girl can knock your whole stable loose. Get rid of the bad apple. If I needed to hit them, I didn't need them. '
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03-13-14 19:29 #4269
Posts: 1070The Economics of Sex Work
http://www.thetakeaway.org/story/economics-sex-work/
A landmark government study issued earlier this week finds that the sex trade can be a very lucrative business.
The report, commissioned by the Justice Department from the Urban Institute, compiled data from eight cities: Atlanta, Dallas, Denver, Miami, San Diego, Seattle and Washington, D. C. According to the report, the trade is most lucrative in Atlanta, where it rakes in $290 million annually—more than the underground drug and gun trades combined.
The study also examined the sex trade in the internet age, where advertising sites like Craigslist have radically changed the business. Robert Kolker, an editor at New York magazine, examined this issue in his book,"Lost Girls: An Unsolved American Mystery." Kolker began his research by exploring a string of prostitution murders on Long Island.
He uncovered a range of economic issues that push many women into the sex trade, topics familiar to Melissa Gira Grant, author of "Playing the working girl: The Work of Sex Work."
Grant and Kolker discuss the economics of sex work and the challenges facing many women in the industry.