The Morality of Prostitution

[Rubber Nursey]

Hi guys and gals. Been offline for a while - hope you all had a fabulous Christmas and New Year. All the best to you and yours for '07. While I'm playing catch-up...thanks to Mike for the compliment a few pages back, hats off to Opebo (who shits me to tears with his bare-back carry-on, but has really impressed me with his recent posts), a big smile to the girls who have really been holding their own amidst this latest 'down with the wh*res' offensive and, being the uncultured skank that I am, a middle finger salute to young Billy.

Anyway, a question from a few pages back...

I am hovering between choosing an ex wg as a life partner or looking for a “regular” girl as a partner.

I've been worried about your apparent obsession with working girls for quite a while now, Alex. In my honest opinion, I think you've put hookers on some kind of a pedestal and ...well, I think you're setting yourself up for a fall. You say that working girls are more honest and open, more understanding of men's 'urges', better in bed, more likely to indulge your sexual fantasies, etc...but that's not necessarily the case. You are in love with a stereotype. It's no different to me saying I'm gonna specifically seek out a black man because they are all well hung and sing like Barry White.

I think you should just be looking for a girl who understands you and makes you HAPPY. Why decrease the size of the pool by discounting 'regular' girls? You have just as much chance of finding the type of girl you're looking for outside the sex industry, as you do within it. If you're really are in love with that particular girl you've talked about, it will be because she's pretty/funny/honest/smart/understands you/turns you on/whatever...not because she is/was a hooker. I say just go for it, baby.

Rubber Nursey, you’ve talked about your partner; saying you would like group sex but he’s happy with ordinary “normal sex” and doesn’t want to experiment. Do you fantasize for the kind of sex you had with other guys? Do you feel unfulfilled sexually with a guy who likes less “active” sex? Would this be a potential problem some day?

I can assure you there is nothing ordinary or normal about our sex life - and if it was any more 'active', I'd be in traction!!!

Let me put it this way, babe. I'm sure you've dined out hundreds of times, in many different establishments, but I bet you have at least one favourite place that you keep going back to. Maybe their steak isn't quite as good as the cafe down the road, but the overall combination of good food, great service and a fun atmosphere makes you prefer that place over all the others.

And yes, a hooker who becomes your girlfriend may have been with thousands of different men...but she chooses to be with you. That should be considered a compliment, rather than a threat.

[Lazzaro]

It is 2 way.
If a girl is nervous and afraid, she wont give good service. Some men will not pay till after sex, then they pay less or even not pay. So if you make her relax and feel safe she will be better. I know most men in this site dont agree and say pay after, I think most girls give better service if you pay first and offer tip after. She will not be nervous. Girls know stories of men who have sex then steal the girls money, watch and phone. The girl is afraid to call police so cant do anything. If you make her feel safe she will be better for you.

I always pay in advance.
This is for several reason: firstly to make her safe on the "money side"; but also to make her aware I'm not the one who want steal her anything.

It is same for customer. If a customer is nervous or afraid he wont relax and will be afraid the girl will steal something or will take money and go quickly.
Some customers who take you to their hotel room hide their watches and wallets because they know some bad girls do steal their things. If they are like that, it is important to make a customer feel safe.

This is why, when I'm picking up a girl (or, after rung, when I'm entered in her flat) I ask her if I could massage her a little.
It is a sort of cuddle, make her a little bit relaxed, make me relaxed (I love massage a girl, especially on her back, for not less than 15/20 minutes) and usually establish a good connection among me and she.

If people feel safe they are happier and do better work, customers are happier too. 2 way respect seems so simple

This should be a worldwide law, not only in the sexual relationships.

In the end, dearest China Lily, I agree 100% with you!

Ciao

[China Lily]

It is 2 way.

If a girl is nervous and afraid, she wont give good service. Some men will not pay till after sex, then they pay less or even not pay. So if you make her relax and feel safe she will be better. I know most men in this site dont agree and say pay after, I think most girls give better service if you pay first and offer tip after. She will not be nervous. Girls know stories of men who have sex then steal the girls money, watch and phone. The girl is afraid to call police so cant do anything. If you make her feel safe she will be better for you.

It is same for customer. If a customer is nervous or afraid he wont relax and will be afraid the girl will steal something or will take money and go quickly.

Some customers who take you to their hotel room hide their watches and wallets because they know some bad girls do steal their things. If they are like that, it is important to make a customer feel safe.

If people feel safe they are happier and do better work, customers are happier too. 2 way respect seems so simple

[China Lily]

I thought of something. A customer so afraid he wears 2 throw away underwear and 2 condoms.

Actually every customer comes to working girl because they want things they dont get from wife girlfriend or maybe he is not attractive and it is not easy to find a girl. The customer who wants slow stroking is because he cant find a girl. His job has pressure and he has no friends around. He wants to put his face on my breasts, close eyes and me stroke him, but no sex. He is happy and pays for it.

Respect for people who are different is simple. Some customers respect you, some dont respect you but do not upset you, some dont respect you and treat girls very bad. Girls hate customers who who force them to drink, push them around force them to do things. Sick men like to feel power because they dont have it in their life, so they bully girls. I think Ibrox is like that.

If we can make a customer relax he will be nicer. If he respect me and is nice he will get much better time. When customer take you home and gives you a drink or something to eat, treats you like a girlfriend, he will get a much better time. With qucik time men all I want is to finish quick, get money and go. If the customer is nice and pays more we will stay the night and have breakfast. It is still for money but when I go home it feels good because people are nice to each other.

We see customers who want different things. You like spicy soup, I like salty soup. Working girls sell customer things they dont get from other women. Dont judge good or bad, normal or not normal. As long as nobody gets hurt everything is OK.

[Lazzaro]

Anal is very difficult to do I know. I wonder how girls who offer it regularly cope with it. They must spend many hours practising,

Bango Cheito,

now I'm with a girl who love anal.
She had more than one orgasm, doing it (it's unbelievable, she told me, how much pleasure she gets if I stimulate her clit in the meanwhile).
Obviously, it's impossible penetrate anal if it is completely dry or it's impossible do it completely, in few minutes the first times.
It take many patience for both the partners, and you get it step by step.
But this is not the forum to talk about it.
See the inherent forum for this


Sasha Coffee, China Lily

As I wrote some report ago, it's like any other trader activity:
Less you pay, less you get.
I wrote about a restaurant: paying few cent, you can't eat oysters but never you could eat a grilled steak or simply a "tender meat".
The grilled steak you'll eat will seems a sole of shoe.....
Usually (with the only exception fot the OTR WG) I try to have a little chit chat, informing on their life, on their willings and so on, and, for me most important, I try to "begin the games", cuddling each other a little bit: I hate just go there, "pull out" from panties, insert, shake, "spray" (or if you prefer: sprinkle) and than "ciao ciao bambina" (bye bye baby).
I really hate "bam wham thank you mom".
Obviously, I think cuddles are well accepted fron 90% of the world population, so I try to relax the lady firstly, in that way I gave her (if a little bit) a minimum of pleasure and relax, I'm quite sure to have back a better service, or at least better that the average of the customer who go with her.
I wrote "with the only exception fot the OTR WG" beacuse here in Italy the OTR WG are on the "strong earnings of money": they know that customer use them only for a quickie, but this is what they really wnat: off one customer, c'mon the next. In a night (from 11pm to 3 am) they could "do" even 20 customer

I agree 100% on what you both wrote recently.
And I admire you for the courage and for the firmness you keep all these testosteronics men at their place, but never I read something unpolite from you.
I learn a lot from you and about the pride you have.

A great kiss

Lazzaro

[NicFrenchy]

another doesnt want sex but wants to be stroked very slow.

why go see a wg for that? why change the habit of a lifetime ? lol

a russian customer likes two girls to [CodeWord134] on him in his bath and then watch the girls licking each others pussy. i dont think it is kinky

me neither, i think this is gross

we all have our little fantasies... we purchase an illusion, not a girlfriend.

enjoy the time you spend with the girl!! you paying for it gives you the right to basic things. chemistry has no price, you can't force a girl to like you, but if you treat her as you would treat a friend, you can only benefit.

i always had great experiences with wgs, and the few bad times.

i had were never from my being rude or disrespectful, maybe she had an "off day", we all have.

i think that prostitution is one of the most important profession, it helps people satisfy their most gruesome desire, sex.

i could not imagine a world without "escorts", women are worried enough as it is, as long as most men can quench their thirst for lust(even for a fee), the amount of "[CodeWord123]" will remain on the low side.

most important thing : have fun!

[Bango Cheito]

hahahahh wow what a great post on respect china lily! it makes me want to give you a big kiss (dry only)!!!!!

i could never have put it that way myself. your post also makes me want to take chinese lessons!!!

anal is very difficult to do i know. i wonder how girls who offer it regularly cope with it. they must spend many hours practising, at least that's what i have been told.

if you don't think two girls peeing on a guy and then licking each others' pussies is kinky, just what is??

[China Lily]

kinky can be funny because what is exciting for one guy is not for another. a customer asks for kinky but only asks to wear schoolgirl clothes. i dont think it is kinky, but he does. customers wants a girl to wear shiny skirt or play with a rope and wip. they get excitement. i dont think it is kinky but the customer does. customers wants to tie him up and wear things he has brought it makes him happy. a customer wears a nightdress. another doesnt want sex but wants to be stroked very slow. a russian customer likes two girls to [CodeWord134] on him in his bath and then watch the girls licking each others pussy. i dont think it is kinky - girls dont like it but will do it. an american customer calls it kinky for girls to wear his wifes shoes and dresses.

i only kiss a few long time customers on the mouth and never do the backside. when 2 or 3 girls go together i will kiss my girlfriends. i dont like it when new customers want wet kiss on the mouth but it is easy kiss dry kiss instead.

[Sasha Coffee]

alright Sporadiac I will be kind, I will use the ignore. Because you are right it is a pointless argument and I am feeding the troll. Have to remember to stay off my soap box.

China Lilly you are so right. Couldn't of put it better.

[China Lily]

Many men say bad things about us in the begining but get fasinated and keep coming back for more. Why do hipocrits want what we sell but say bad things? It is their own probelm inside their heads. They look down on you and are nervous or are rude, but why do they keep coming back?

Billy Ibrox is afraid girls make him want sex with them and he has to pay for it. He wants it for free but cant get what he wants for free. Girls have power he cant control. He doesn't have confident to admit he needs working girls. He hates it because he has to pay for it.

Working girls do what he wants only because he will pay for it. If he thinks other girls are different, he shouls ask what they want. Girls choose men. Most girls choose to be working girls for money.

Customers confident inside respect girls. Billy Ibrox is not confident inside. He is ignorant about women, sex and people. It is him who is afraid of power of girls.

[Sporadic]

Sasha,

Be kind to Billy boy, he said "executrions" instead of "execution."

Who knows? He could be talking about extrusion.

Try the "ingnore" feature, it beats feeding a troll.

[Sasha Coffee]

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=1162

In Lasos, after the Pathet Lao came to power, they rounded up all the thieves and hookers and executed them. Now I don't believe in executrions but no smoke without fire. Never trust a hooker or any other criminal.

Billy now you are really showing your lack of education and backward thinking. They executed the same people you use for your sexual favours.

OH and I forgot, not all hookers have criminal boyfriends or are criminals. In fact just to really scare you some of them actually have degrees and even multiple degrees.

[China Lily]

Billy Ibrox. You dont respect women, not just working girls. You think all people, husbands, wives and lovers are performing monkeys too. People will be performing monkeys for you in your life because they see what you deserve.

If you don't respect women, they won't respect you. Same for working girls. There are all kinds of working girls. Some have no education some are high class. Some come from the countryside, some have no choice, some are well educated and glamourous escorts. All sell customers what they want to pay for. Most girls wouldn't care what you think as long as they get your money.

Some customers want cheaper girls, others want higher class girls. Some want it quick, others want top service. If you dont think it is a profession that is your problem. Wealthy guys pay well for professionals.

Men who treat women with respect get respect back. You sound like you get no respect from people. Girls are people with feelings and pride too.

Customers who treat working girls with respect get better service. I don't think you ever get good service whatever you do, because you have no respect for other people.

[George90]

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=1162

Here is a good report by Spam Hog, the board's resident expert on the Philippines and its bands of light fingered hookers. Remember all of those women you feel sympathy for have criminal boyfriends buggering them and ost likely buggering you too if given a chance. Fuck them and forget them. Get close and pay the price for your stupidity.

Why do you monger? Why do you use prostitutes? Do you really get sexual enjoyment from having sex with prostitutes?

Your attitude towards them suggests that you would feel nothing but disgust from getting so physically close to such a 'criminal performing monkey'. I know that I would not get any sexual pleasure from sex with someone I felt such contempt for. I might get some sadistic pleasure from degrading a prostitute, though, if I felt as you claim to.

I believe there is a fetish for that sort of thing, sado-masochism. There is even a thread dedicated to that fetish. Your posts might be more appropriate there.

[Billy Ibrox]

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=1162

Here is a good report by Spam Hog, the board's resident expert on the Philippines and its bands of light fingered hookers. Remember all of those women you feel sympathy for have criminal boyfriends buggering them and ost likely buggering you too if given a chance. Fuck them and forget them. Get close and pay the price for your stupidity.

In Lasos, after the Pathet Lao came to power, they rounded up all the thieves and hookers and executed them. Now I don't believe in executrions but no smoke without fire. Never trust a hooker or any other criminal.