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  1. #4192
    My input is, you need to make some more money, and then learn how to budget It. If you ran out of money from mongering, then you were living beyond your means. But if you made a lot of money for a while, assuming you did it legally and paid taxes on it, you will have enough Social Security when you are 62 to live someplace like the Philippines or Thailand and that should solve your problem.

  2. #4191

    A request for input

    This is going to be long winded, so if you are looking for something quick, it's not for you. But if you struggle with balancing sexuality and morality (like I do) read on (RN I'd love your comments if you're willing to give the time) :

    1) I was raised as a feminist male. My father was a playboy who left my mother with 5 kids. My mother was an educated intellectual early feminist who believed that exact equality was the goal. I love my mother deeply, she did far more for me than anyone (esp. Including my father) and I would like to respect her wishes. My memories of early puberty include a couple of specific incidences: the first time I had an orgasm was a total surprise to me (I didn't even know what it was!) I had found my much older brothers Playboy magazines and sticking my (Anthony) weiner between 2 pillows just came natural and ended in the most mind blowing experience I had ever had. At that moment I promised God I'd never masturbate again once I'd had real sex with a real woman (LOL) , Somehow my mother saw that I had found bro's Playboys, and told me that she was very dissapointed in me for objectifying women in that way. This was a real blow to my 12 year old ego. Through high school (where I actually was successful in most areas except sex) , I balanced 3 personas. A romantic who wanted true love for the rest of his life, a desire to fuck beautiful girls as I saw my father doing, and a feminist who thought my sexual desires were dirty and vulgar.

    2) In college (where I first had sex) these struggles transferred into a collision between having encounters with a bunch of girls (who were not my physical ideal) and a certain girl who sought the romantic ever after dream with me. I still wasn't a hobbiest, but I did sneak off to Porn theaters (they had them then) and Strip clubs, always feeling ashamed. My more sophisticated friends were having threesomes with hot coeds, but also at that time it was very chic for girls to be "bi" in college, it just didn't include me.

    3) after college I left my GF and moved to the US SW, where it turned out I loved the scenery but had nothing in common with the girls. I couldn't 2 step, liked Euro cars and movies, and was a FEMINIST. Didn't actually score me well there. So I went back to NYC for grad school and met my future ex wife the first night I was there. After 10 + years of puberty I just wanted to get laid with someone I thought was both cute and respectable (intelligent, etc). She (for whatever perverted reason) decided I was the one for the rest of her life and clung on.

    4) I cheated from the beginning. Not in a big way, it was the occasional innocuous relationship or it was with pros (but by now I'd discovered them). Eventually we got married (it was a fait acomplie) and I knew that if I had children I'd never divorce her (so I never had children which pissed her off). Mostly I'd make out with girls, but never actually have sex. But I wanted to. Along the way I started to make a lot of money. Until then my feminist background had made e think that women weren't interested in money (really!) , but suddenly with money, I found women responding to me in a way they never had before. I still didn't want to divorce my wife, but when she went to Europe for a month. I went to the local strip club thinking that for a few Gs I could choose and pull ma hot girl. Untill I fell for the girl (does that make me a CAD or an anti-CAD, I still don't know). I thought it would be nbo strings attached, turned out it was ALL strings attached (and my dick too).

    5) That's when I became a true Monger. In several years with the hot young stripper we had oral sex but nothing more, yet it cost me my marriage. From then on I have only had sex with 1) WOMEN WHO INITIATED IT OR 2) PROS WHERE IT IS NEGOTIATED. SORRY FOR CAPS. I have tasted the hobby wherever I have been in the world (a lot of places) and once diScovering ISG sought it out in ThAiland (1x) and Colombia (2x SO FAR).

    6) Then (at 47) I ran out of money. I might have it again in the future, but who knows? So I haven't had sex in a year. I am sure there are lonely women my age who would like to sleep with me, but having tasted the fruit I want a a young MDE hottie or nothing.

    FLAME ON. Thanks.

  3. #4190

    Anti-prost. groups and NGOs used false information to attack Craigslist classifieds

    read this one. the radical feminist groups are now going after backpage ads, attempting to shut them down as well, with more lies claiming the existence of rampant **** prostitution. but backpage fought back and exposed how the groups manufacture their false statistics:

    http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-03-...-junk-science/
    Last edited by Rio D; 06-04-11 at 06:57. Reason: corrections

  4. #4189
    [QUOTE=Binai; 1139039]Sex is precious and must be celebrated and enjoyed in all its variety. Marriage makes sex dull and routine. Prostitution is the answer and it is for nothing that it is the oldest profession in the world.

    Girl asks her mother: What is Sex?

    Mother: Sex is when you stop a car driven by a man who offers you a meal in a restaurant, and then you spend some time with him in the hotel room, have sex with him once, and then each one go on his way and you have a hundred dollars bill extra in your pocket.

    Then the girl asks her mother: What is Super Sex?

    Mother: Super Sex is when you stop a limousine driven by Chauffeur and a stylish man is sitting in the back who takes you to a luxurious villa, gives you a scrumptious meal with distinctive Caviar, and then you spend the night together in bed and engage in sex more than once, and then you part with an envelope containing a thousand dollars in your pocket. :* (why)

    And then the girl asks her mother: "What is love?

    Mother: Love is a lie invented by men so that they can have sex with you for Free.

  5. #4188
    So I see they let him out on bail. France does not extradite its citizens. One of the bail conditions was an "armed guard." Gee, do you think the head of the IMF has enough money to bribe a guard? I'm just sayin'.

  6. #4187

    Reserving judgement

    I am going with presumption of innocence on this one for the moment. I've spent quite a bit of time in the hotel industry and a few things don't add up. No way would a maid "think a room was empty." Enter a $3, 000 a night suite without making sure? Highly unlikely. And, I guarantee you everybody On the staff knows who is who in these high-end suites.

    OTOH this guy has a real bad track record. On the third hand, he did not get to that station in life by being incredibly stupid. On the fourth hand, first his lawyers said he was eating lunch with his daughter and then they said any sex was consensual. On the fifth hand, it's unlikely he'd accidentally forget his cell phone. On the sixth hand, I haven't seen any pix of this woman but she's not that young and has a kid, so how hot could she be?

    So I dunno at this point but regardless of his guilt or innocence I love the idea that some rich French guy is in Riker's Island with no bail. The perp walk, I don't like so much. It's inconsistent with the presumption of innocence. We have "John TV" where I am from in the states but they don't publish your picture until you're convicted.

  7. #4186
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_18065481

    What is wrong with these rich@ssholes?

    Oh, yeah; they're rich and they're assholes.

    Spend 200 bucks next time and stay out of trouble. Don't blow up your career over pussy. To review: this Is your pen and this Is your pencil.

    Sheesh.
    I was wondering the same thing when I saw the news about DSK. How could he be so stupid? Why did he not hire an escort instead of "jumping" the maid. I appears that he HAD hired escorts on previous occasions:

    http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/1484...prostitute.htm

    But the girls complained the he was too agrressive / rough.

    Was he blacklisted at the New York agencies?

    I guess the moral of the story is: Always treat the girls with respect.

  8. #4185

    Another one who should have mongered instead

    http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_18065481

    What is wrong with these rich@ssholes?

    Oh, yeah; they're rich and they're assholes.

    Spend 200 bucks next time and stay out of trouble. Don't blow up your career over pussy. To review: this is your pen and this is your pencil.

    Sheesh.

  9. #4184

    It is all in the mind

    Sex is precious and must be celebrated and enjoyed in all its variety. Marriage makes sex dull and routine. Prostitution is the answer and it is for nothing that it is the oldest profession in the world. Some civilizations that recognized this fact did not have to struggle with imposing artificial morality and go away with minimal sex related crimes. Others suffered and continue to suffer. Prostitution should be a respectable profession that allows people to express themselves sexually and fulfill their fantasies so important for a fulfilling life.

  10. #4183
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcebu  [View Original Post]
    You are allowed to sell it. But not in the US.
    You can't sell it on the White Market but on the Black Market of course you can. Caveat emptor

  11. #4182
    Quote Originally Posted by Goethe  [View Original Post]
    Sex and parts of your body. You are allowed to give it away, but you are not allowed to sell it.
    You are allowed to sell it. But not in the US.

    In most other countries prostitution isn't illegal or at least nor really enforced.

  12. #4181

    Logic

    Everything you are allowed to give away, you are allowed to sell.

    Everything you aren't allowed to give away, you aren't allowed to sell. (for example drugs or weapons etc.)

    There are only two exceptions:

    Sex and parts of your body. You are allowed to give it away, but you are not allowed to sell it.

    (by law or by "moral").

    What is the difference between selling something and giving it away as gift:

    If you sell something you get something for it, if you give something away as gift you get nothing back.

    Means, someone who sells something is in a better position than someone who gives something away as gift.

    If the one who is selling something is a "victim" and has to be protected, then the one who gives the same thing away as gift is more a "victim" because he is in a worse position and has to be more protected.

    Doesn't this mean, if prostitution is a crime, marriage is a bigger crime?

    (perhaps I should have a drink to bring the illogicalness back. Hehehe).

  13. #4180
    Quote Originally Posted by Bango Cheito  [View Original Post]
    I may have a chance to go there this year for a music festival, and I plan to be in decent physical shape when I get there. I hope you're right.
    A buff musician, no less! You'll have plenty of freebies throwing themselves at you Bango. Trust me on this one. Not to mention some of the finest seafood and akvavit in the world. Sweden is much more fun than rumor has it.

  14. #4179
    Quote Originally Posted by Essen49  [View Original Post]
    As someone who's been to Sweden often enough I can assure you the country is anything but sexless. And Swedish women are very outgoing and assertive when it comes to sex. What's not to enjoy about that?

    The laws against P4P are ridiculous and mostly ignored. Remember the Swedes also used to have very strict laws regulating the sale of alcohol and those didn't stop anyone from drinking either.

    You can't outlaw human nature is what it all comes down to and any attempts to do so are doomed to fail.
    I may have a chance to go there this year for a music festival, and I plan to be in decent physical shape when I get there. I hope you're right.

  15. #4178
    Quote Originally Posted by Bango Cheito  [View Original Post]
    Sweden likes to sell itself to the rest of the world as this free-love capital where guys and girls all hook up with each other because they are really attracted to each other, but I think it's a big lie and I imagine Sweden as a very sexless place these days. I don't have any personal experience either way, but it seems to me from where I'm standing that their precious model is not working out so well.
    As someone who's been to Sweden often enough I can assure you the country is anything but sexless. And Swedish women are very outgoing and assertive when it comes to sex. What's not to enjoy about that?

    The laws against P4P are ridiculous and mostly ignored. Remember the Swedes also used to have very strict laws regulating the sale of alcohol and those didn't stop anyone from drinking either.

    You can't outlaw human nature is what it all comes down to and any attempts to do so are doomed to fail.

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