The Morality of Prostitution

[Dickhead]

That is OK since I am no longer living in America and have no plans to return. But that is another section ....

[CBGBConnisur]

Actually, dickhead, in many parts of the world outside of the USA, regular everyday guys get some high quality poontang. I've seen it all over the world, where you see ordinary Joes getting jiggy with some rather hot women. I one time visited this resort in the Mediterranean and saw thousands of gorgeous European women hooking up with the local guys who were often poor hotel staff, waiters, janitors, bus drivers, etc. You'll never see that happen with American women, they place too much emphasis on status and wealth.

[Dickhead]

Actually if the revolution goes as planned, there will be more guys who can afford to monger. Also since the innate morality of prostitution will be clearly recognized, and since it will be explicitly legal, supply should increase and with the need to pay protection and bribes removed, price will clearly drop.

However, some blood will flow through the streets during the process. Can't be helped.

[Pokey]

DH, There is always a first time. "Viva Revolution"!

PurpleNGold," Astonishing and Unique".

[PurpleNGold]

Dickhead,

After the revolution, there will just be that many more horny motherfuckers that can afford to pay ladies for services. There will be just as many ladies who realize that, as you said, fucking is easier and more fun than other physical labor.

[Dickhead]

I have travelled to 30 countries on 5 continents and mongered in most of them and I have never gotten beaten up, robbed, or jailed while mongering. I have been mongering for over 30 years and the only STD I ever got was the clap from a supposed girlfriend. Wrap the sausage and you won't get anything unless you choose to eat pussy and that is just a risk I choose to take, similar to riding my motorcycle and drinking booze.

All forms of work are exploitation of the working class by the rentier class so why should prostitution be free of exploitation? Perhaps when the revolution comes and we achieve a fair distribution of wealth prostitution will die out but I highly doubt it.

[PurpleNGold]

Pokey,

Let's kick your ass off that high horse since it certainly doesn't belong there:

All quotes originally posted by Pokey
I left something very important out for some of you living upside down in "caves".

What the fuck does this mean? Are we bats now? I don't think you have the sophistication to be implying that we are vampires, so you must just have mixed a metaphor inside your obviously fucked up head.

so lets talk about how dangerous mongering is to us. You can die from catching AIDS, or get some other terrible disease.

This is not even a remotely unique condition of mongering, so it is not even a remotely valid point. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that mongering is safer: Since the illusion of a clean woman doesn't really exist, monger's tend to practice safe sex more than say the guy fucking his wife after the wife just fucked the mailman who's fucked...

Traveling to foreign countries to get pussy, is risky, you could end up in jail, robbed or beaten.

Shit, this can't happen locally? Also, not even a remotely unique concern of mongering, therefore not even a remotely valid point.

Yes, those girls will use sad stories to get money from you, or worst won't give you a good sexual experience.

Again, not even a remotely unique concern of mongering, therefore not even a remotely valid point. Same logic as applied to the bit about catching nasties here as well. You think your girlfriend/wife doesn't extract tons of shit from you with tears, sob stories and false promises of a bj 'later'?

Mongering is addicting, although the DMV-IV doesn't use the term sexual addict, the behavior is universally well known to clinicians.( I would go out on a limb here and say people who post frequently here 500 and above, have a high percentage rate of being addicted to sex and/or are preoccupied with sex and it might interfear with your life, or for sure your wallet.)

Again, not even a remotely unique concern of mongering, therefore not even a remotely valid point (this is becoming a broken record). People get addicted to all sorts of things. Are you going to give up drinking? Give up golf? Give up whatever? And, at least being addicted to sex is a pro-species addiction

To say there is no difference because a longshoreman and hooker is laughable.

I think you meant between, not because. It is absolutely not a laughable comparison. Every example you gave trying to make it seem laughable was an example of the effect of the stigma to which you referred, not of any real, physical difference. My question was 'What's the difference?' not 'What are the effects of the imaginary difference?'

The excitement and pleasure is almost worth it.

So, you think you are wasting your time and money when you go out and fuck ho's? Why do you do it then? Oh, I get it, you're just a poor addict, right?

[Pokey]

Let me get back on my high horse for a minute. I left something very important out for some of you living upside down in "caves".

Most people care very little about others, so lets talk about how dangerous mongering is to us. You can die from catching AIDS, or get some other terrible disease. Traveling to foreign countries to get pussy, is risky, you could end up in jail, robbed or beaten.
Yes, those girls will use sad stories to get money from you, or worst won't give you a good sexual experience. Mongering is addicting, although the DMV-IV doesn't use the term sexual addict, the behavior is universally well known to clinicians.( I would go out on a limb here and say people who post frequently here 500 and above, have a high percentage rate of being addicted to sex and/or are preoccupied with sex and it might interfear with your life, or for sure your wallet.)

To say there is no difference between a longshoreman and hooker is laughable. Can you see the Hooker at a social gathering when asked what she does for a living, say "Im a Hooker", can you picture the reaction and hard-ons'! Can the Hooker go to the bank and fill out loan papers for a house, and put down she is a hooker, and bring out her tax returns to prove it? There is a stigma attached to be a Hooker, and it take a high toll on both the Monger and the Hooker.

Ok, I'll get off my high horse now. If you want to monger, well have fun. The excitement and pleasure is almost worth it.

KA, drug use in TJ is rampant among Bargirls, places like Chicago Club, Playboy Club, etc. You don't see it like in the States with Street walkers, but its there. There is even a current report that talks about it in the Tijuana section. If you want a really good session, offer the girl drugs, she will follow you right up, and offer you anything you want. But if you get caugh by those TJ cops, it will cost you a lot of money you get out that bad situation, or you might end up in a Mexican jail for a long time. Hey, I said this business is dangerous!

[Dickhead]

The only difference between a hooker selling her pussy and a longshoreman selling his body is that fucking is a hell of a lot easier.

You think prostitution is wrong, don't fuck prostitutes. You think homosexuality is wrong, don't fuck anyone of the same sex. You think communism is wrong, don't be a communist. But don't preach your moral bullshit to me.

Well, I'm off to shove some more rocks in front of the cave.

[King Arthur]

GT, et. al:

You're just feeling righteous at the moment. Anybody who grew up within a Judeo-Chrsitian environment might feel that way occassionally.

Do you feel mongers exploit sex workers? The tables can be turned and its the sex workers exploiting us for our money. Sometimes we get ripped off buying drinks and getting no play.

The girls may lie and create stories about mommy needing surgery to extract a sucker monger's hard-earned dineros. A girl even said she loved me after meeting for less than one hour. What bullshit designed to take more of my money!

In response to Pokey, most girls in Tijuana do not use drugs. In contrast, many sex workers in US use drugs.

JZ, I help girls out a bit occassionally if I feel she's nice. Altruism is a different higher order type of fulfillment versus basic sex, and I feel the two cannot really be compared. I do like to try to encourage girls to think about the future, the longevity of their current profession, and the need to develop other skills.

[Travis Bickle 2]

Tang, Here is a suggestion for you. In Phoenix where you now live they have a couple of dozen sexual addiction meetings. Go and find a young man who is struggling with picking up hookers, be his friend, mentor him, and help him turn his life around. Give him the benefit of all your experience.

You'd be helping someone who wants and needs it; you'd have one less man "victimizing prostitutes"; and you'd be walking the walk instead of just talk.

Of course, it's so much more fun to come in here and look at nude pictures and tell everyone what a changed man you are.

Civ2000

[PurpleNGold]

It's laughable that 2 senior members with a combined >400 posts between them want get all sanctimonious about how wrong it is to utilize the services of prostitutes.

Pokey, burning eyes from reading GT's post? More like pissing my pants because I'm laughing so hard. I don't see anything wrong with exchanging money for sex. The actual amount exchanged is irrelevant.

What I'd like to know: How is a woman selling her pussy/mouth/ass any different than a longshoreman selling his arms/back/legs? The psychological argument has no realy statistics to back it up. Any studies that say this kind of crap are skewed in favor of the pricks that try to use them to brow beat with.

You're going to clean up your act at some point in the nebulous future? Why not do it now? Stop reading this board and go live the life you think is right. Until you at least hobble the walk, shitting the talk just raises a nasty stench.

[Pokey]

Right on GT! Some of these guys act like "Vampires" I guess making suggestings to them is like showing them the cross. they can't handle it, its buring they're eyes!

We as mongers are exploiting sex workers, especially if we are going to 3rd world countries to do it, and paying them the equivalent to less them $10 in our currency.Most Prostitutes lead a dimal life, althought I guess a very few, lead a happy and rich life, but thats less them 5%, the rest don't make much money and a lot of them resort to drugs to help them cope.( I know that RN disagrees on this point, but why does she spend so much time helping ex hookers?)

I guess some good comes out of prostitution, most of the girls I'm with send money back home. Sometimes its the only money the family has to live on.

I want to one day want to clean up my act and quit mongering, but today is not that day. In fact I was planing on taking a trip across the border tommorow, Easter Sunday, but changed my mine, because Mexico is a Catholic country, and yes even if lot of the girls are Prostitutes, they are still Catholics. I can respect that, and GT too.

[PurpleNGold]

GT,

You think Jesus would've bothered helping Mary Magdalene if she wasn't sucking his dick on the side? Why do you think he liked hanging with pros?

Seriously though, you gotta lighten up. Like JZ said, go out and live your life as an example. Show us heathen ne'er-do-wells how we should act instead of just ranting at us, which you should see, is not going to do any good whatsoever. In that case, even if you never convert a single person to your cause, at least, if you live the game you're talking, you'll do some real good (according to your own sermonizing).

[Dickhead]

Seems like a few people have been hitting the Jim Jones Kool-Aid again. Religion is a tool of the ruling class.