The Morality of Prostitution

[Philip Augustus]

Great that you're alive and well and housed and OK, RN -- pity you don't have a dog, but you can't have everything! Good to see Fedup, too.

This reminds me of the way they say women who live together synchronise their menstrual cycles -- we're all bonded.......

No, I didn't think you were ignoring me yet, RN -- I've been ignored by experts and you don't make the grade ;-) It was only a day or two.

I didn't fancy joining the Nashville discussion, too specific -- I've never been to the States, and for the same reason I don't post to American Women. What state is that story from, Fedup?

Just finished a SF novel that has, tangentially, high-tech *****houses and stuff (VR); and the assumptions seem to be that all the customers are sadists and the girls what one would expect when that is so. I think we should send him (he's a Brit) to Blore House to improve his education......

[Rubber Nursey]

Hiya gorgeous boys!! Long time no see!

Sorry I haven't been around. I have been swamped at work and I've had to move house and my ISP has been giving me grief and my dog ate my homework. Ok, so I don't go to school and I don't have a dog...but the rest of the excuses are bona fide.

Anyway, thanks for worrying about me. (And for the ego boost when I found out I was being missed! haha) I didn't get your email until tonight Phillip, so I hope you didn't think I was ignoring you. Thanks for your concern honey.
And while I'm thanking people, thank you for the kind words Carl LaFong....I hope you will join us again some time soon. I looked up the book that you mentioned, and I am going to see if is available here. It looks like an interesting read.

Soooo what's the topic of the minute? Seems there has been a bit of a thing about cleaning up Nashville...which I don't want to get involved in 'coz I have a tendency to get aggressive around self-righteous zealots...
And the revelations that Joe is a giant and Phillip is "vertically challenged"? Nope, not gonna touch that either! lol

So what's on your minds guys?

[Fedup]

It seems we all disappeared at the same time... I'd said most of my thoughts du jour and I think others had too. The change to the new forum was a bit of a interuption too.

The "American Women" forum took a rather odd twist for the worst too... nothing but fat talk.

Here's a story that should get you all going... I only live one county away from these goons:

"The year is 1921... people's minds are closed tighter than a gnat's ass..."

Oh shit!... hold on a minute... the year is 2002!!!

http://www.baynews9.com/newsstory.asp?storyname=2002/June/1/porn

Not exactly prostitution... but I'm sure you can figure out how they feel about that too.

Everyone get out their flag and stick it to their car please.

[Philip Augustus]

to joe:
i mailed her with a brief note asking if she's ok, haven't heard back. funny thing, dickhead and terry also disappeared at the same time, i was wondering where the party was......

really? then i must spend all my life on the net, mustn't i, get the respect that doesn't accrue in rl to a speed bump ;-)

[Joe Zop]

Haven't heard anything from RN at all -- are you listening, o muse of the thread -- but I've been swamped with work of late and have only been checking in briefly until I get caught up, hence the silence.

No, actually, it was your stunning revelation that drove me away -- I was certain from reading your posts that you were a seven-footer :-) and I'm still processing the damage to my world view...

[Philip Augustus]

Hi, Joe, long time no see, and do you know if RN's OK?

I'll second you on asking Carl LaFong (thanks for kind words) to give us a precis of Nussbaum. I don't think there's too much surprise in her getting hit from both "sides", though, inasmuch as PC is in many respects a re-run of Victorian "earnestness" and prudery. Where I live, the feminazis often get together with the religious right to picket brothels; if you want to spoil the love-feast, say the A Word....... ;-)

[Joe Zop]

Amen, neo.

Carl, thanks, and can you tell us a bit about Nussbaum's book? Sound like a very interesting read, and one I'll need to look for, as I tend to agree that someone who's getting it from both directions probably has something intruguing to say...

[neo]

better prostitution in a controlled and designated environ where the provider is there of her own free will and not being abused
as for people in a relationship , it is purely a personal choice that each person will have to make. As long as no one gets hurt and everyone gets what they want. Like the song goes "there are worse things I could do...."

[Carl LaFong]

i am delighted to see such a thoughtful discussion taking place here (i mention rn and joe and augustus specifically). this is the first time for me to peek into this section and it is refreshing to find frank, intellectual analysis of sex work. outstanding.

martha nussbaum, a professor of classics and law at the univ. of chicago, has written what i feel is an excellent discussion that touches upon some of the issues discussed here. the book is "sex and social justice" and is a great read (i think it's an oxford univ. press imprint). i've heard her taking hits from both the left and right so i figure she must be doing something right.

anyhow, i just wanted to express my appreciation to all the posters who have contributed to this part of the site.

carl lafong

--
"we call contrary to nature what happens contrary to custom; nothing is anything but according to nature, whatever it may be. let this universal and natural reason drive out of us the error and astonishment that novelty brings us."
michel de montaigne

[NoFatso]

Nashville.

They so happy that Nashville has been "cleaned up". Reality is, many folks in the church, including the guy on the pulpit, are regular patrons. Ask the girls. Most of these moralists are major hobbyists. Also, let's hope the cops still find time to catch the real criminals, after all, they are too busy keeping an eye on the scene and attempting to close down the joints before they even open up.

[Paddy]

Hey Nashville,

I doubt that the mayor and the guys who work in his administration are too thrilled about all of the parlours being closed down. I mean, they'll have to drive to the next county now for sex.

Many thanks to all of the righteous crusaders at that church of yours for saving their wretched souls from eternal damnation. "Thou shalt close down all brothels.' Which commandment was that again??? Next time you hang out with God please ask him.

[Dickhead]

If you think prostitution is immoral, Nashville or Video Vigilante or Lazarus or Rev. Taylor or whoever you are, then don't fuck them.

To all prostitutes in Nashville: Paraphrasing John Babsone Lane Soule, "Go west, young woman."

This quote is sometimes improperly attributed to Horace Greeley.

[Prokofiev]

Guess I better cancel that Nashville trip . . .

[Sinanju Master]

Sounds like Nashville was a theocratic gov't official in Kabul in the mid 1990's with unlimited powers to be used at hs discretion and answerable to NO ONE. What will Nashville (the poster and the city) do next? Invade people's homes at all hours of the night to make sure that they (willing, consenting adults who can think for THEMSELVES) are not engaging in unGodly sexual practices? Nashville=Taliban=Spanish Inquisition=Thought Police. The very thought that this wacko who hides his metaphorical turban from the public in an attempt to "protect" us, has the audacity to speak for ALL of us makes me shiver.

[NoFatso]

What morality? I am a single guy, no girlfriend and wouldn't want one. I like pretty women and sex. If a pretty woman wants to have sex with me for $ and if she is attractive enough and provides GFE, I pay her to have a good time. It is no different from going to have dinner in a gourmet restaurant. I don't think anyone go through a morality discussion before walking into a restaurant.

I can't comment on situation where you are a married man or in a committed relationship. I believe in those circumstances, as long as there is an understanding between you and your spouse or g/f, then all is fine. If not, then it is an issue of loyalty between you and your spouse, not an issue of morality although you can argue loyalty is part of morality. If you accept your g/f or wife to have sex with any guys she likes outside you, then, that's fine too. As a single guy not in any relationship I have no experience to comment on this.