Thread: The Morality of Prostitution
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08-07-09 02:16 #3668
Posts: 111Originally Posted by bango cheito
prostitution, particularly if we ignore rich-world girls earning good money and instead focus on poor countries, is extremely harmful to the women engaged in it. there's been study after study of this, i can't believe it's even up for debate. let me cite again the state department's 2005 trafficking in persons report which summarised some of these studies: "field research in nine countries concluded that 60 to 75 percent of women in prostitution were raped, 70 to 95 percent were physically assaulted, and 68 percent met the criteria for post-traumatic stress disorder in the same range as treatment-seeking combat veterans and victims of state-organized torture." nearly 90% of the girls interviewed wanted to leave prostitution.
the results of such research not withstanding, there are ways and means of avoiding feeling guilty about enjoying yourself at the expense of others (just ask the nazis or ariel sharon), but please let's not kid ourselves about the bleeding obvious: prostitution is a profoundly negative activity for most of the girls involved in it.
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08-07-09 02:01 #3667
Posts: 111Originally Posted by Carmex
I love stating the obvious: life is all about making decisions and living with the consequences. I foresee quite well most of the likely and inevitable downsides to this mongering lifestyle which we all follow, but for me it's worth it. I know that I can't have my cake and eat it: mongering has downsides. I don't think throwing yourself headlong into mongering without consideration of the impact that it will have on yourself and your life is particularly wise. Sure, sometimes feeling lonely about only seeing young, hot pussy will happen; it's just a downside to mongering. On the other side of the fence, which always looks greener, you could be chained to a wife who could leave you at any moment and so leave you in an emotional and financial ruin. My fear of commitment (i.e. fear of rejection) plus my non-existent desire to bring children into this shitty world makes choosing mongering a reasonably easy decision (though I am mindful that this choice has its downsides).
Originally Posted by Carmex
Originally Posted by Carmex
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08-07-09 01:28 #3666
Posts: 111Originally Posted by Dickhead
Originally Posted by Dickhead
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08-03-09 22:22 #3665
Posts: 1281Wow, I've not had time to reply for a while...
Just to say, IMOE, mongering has NOT made me any harder. In face, since I moved to Colombia, my heart chakra has been blown WIDE open. Living in North America made me hard and cold and lacking in perception. That's all been corrected now. I mongered in both places, ergo, mongering had NOTHING to do with it.
I'm currently in love with a girl I may never be more than friends with (although God and Satan both know I will do what I can to change that).... and in the meantime I'm still mongering AND seeing other girls casually. Being in love hasn't lessened the joy of that, but at the same time, the joy of that hasn't lessened the pain or longing of the unrequited love. But if the girl ends up deciding she does want to be with me and demands monogamy in return, I will even give it a try. I don't know if the sex will be the most mind-blowing sex ever or just mediocre. I personally doubt I could be this into the girl and not have great sex, but the proof is in the pudding. I honestly really don't know just how much experience she has, I haven't been able to pry it out of her yet. But also, even if she's inexperienced there is always the possibility that she will learn fast and be down for everything!!
If you want to talk about quality of life here, the ONLY area in which an American city beats Bogota would be access to cars, and I fucking hate cars and I hate to drive anyways. The water here is better quality than ANY American city's water, and 99% of the city has good access to it. Not to mention medical care. And trust me, there are a lot of plasma TVs in the poorest neighborhoods here too! Not that I think that's a good thing either!
There are also food stamps, other programs for infants and children, besides the aforementioned medical programs, TONS of shit to help the bottom 20% of society here. The women who work in prostitution here do it by and large by CHOICE..... meaning 99.9999% of the time by choice.
The last girl I had here only works one day a week... hardly sounds like coercion to me!
Lastly, Illogic, you yourself said it, the problem is THE WAY PEOPLE LOOK AT PROSTITUTES. We change THAT, and the problem goes away!!
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08-02-09 16:16 #3664
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Ok, so I read the report written by the chick in the link, and yes, probably at some time I will feel lonely about only seeing young, hot pussy willing to take it in the mouth for 1200 php.
On the other hand, I, (like the guy in the article), have neither the time nor the patience to go on 3 dates (my limit) with chicks for mediocre sex at best with a chick that doesn't know how to give a good BJ or take it in the ass.
Add up all the dates you have been on in your life, then add the money you spent, and subtract the times you got fucked. Then do the same with all the SP you have been with and see which number is bigger.
Doing different pussy each time gets my dick hard. Even same old/same old providers get boring after a while, no matter how hot they are. That is just me. Honestly, right now, I don't think you could pay me to get married. Unless she was an ultra rich, bisexual, multi-orgasmic, super model with a PhD in Astrophysics. Then, maybe then, I would last for a couple of years.
Just ask Hugh Hefner.
I rest my case.
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08-02-09 02:43 #3663
Posts: 3359"I don't know how anyone can honestly say they can live only for pussy and be happy."
Probably English isn't your first language but I don't see where anyone on this thread ever said anything like that.
Obviously you can't be happy living only for pussy. You need beer and weed and a high-level career with steady money coming in and a good gym (and a good pair of gym shoes). You need intellectual and cultural stimulation from time to time as well.
I don't know how anyone can live without sex and be happy. I know a lot of people who live without sex and none of them seem very happy to me. Perhaps we could do a study correlating perceived happiness with the number of pairs of shoes owned. The results could be quite interesting.
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08-02-09 02:07 #3662
Posts: 111Originally Posted by Dickhead
I don't know how anyone can honestly say they can live only for pussy and be happy.
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08-01-09 04:59 #3661
Posts: 3359That's funny cuz here the WGs all assume you're married. The first year I was here I had this chilena who was built like a brick shit house. About the seventh or eighth time she was at my apartment she asked me where I lived. I was like, uh, here? Buenos Aires? I don't understand the question. She said, "No, I know you live here in Buenos Aires, but in what neighborhood?" We are in my fucking apartment. I am completely confused.
I say, "I live here in this apartment. Are you drunk or high on something?" "No, I just figure this is your bulo." A bulo is like a fuck pad. Common here for several guys to go in and rent one and I have it on Mondays and you on Tuesdays and Joe on Wednesdays and shit like that.
I ask, "Why the hell would you think that?" "Because there aren't any pictures or anything or personal stuff and there are hardly any clothes in your closet." So I explained that this was all the clothes I had and that all my personal pictures and stuff like that had been destroyed when my storage unit in Germany was flooded the previous year. 100% true but I know she never believed me and is probably still sure I was married.
The next time I saw her she asked me, "Do you really only have three pairs of shoes?" I have four pairs now so I am moving up in the world. I don't have to move again for another five months so I might even buy another pair, or not.
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08-01-09 04:15 #3660
Posts: 1342Why Are You Mongering?
Originally Posted by Chocha Monger
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07-31-09 10:49 #3659
Posts: 2656Paid In Full
A female point of view on why men monger.
http://www.askmen.com/dating/vanessa...e_secrets.html
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07-31-09 06:22 #3658
Posts: 510Originally Posted by Thatguy865
News to me
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07-26-09 01:53 #3657
Posts: 614Originally Posted by Goga Fung
But forget clubs. You tell where you can go to the poor neighborhood in a country and find Big screen HD TV's in just about everyone's house, a car in every drive way, if not 2 cars. Decent housing, clean running water.
This in the POOR neighborhoods. I don't even have to talk about the rich. US poor can stand up against most 3rd world middle class and even in some other 1st world countries.
Now I didn't pass judgement on a person moving to another country. I only noted how desireable pussy must be to make a person leave these luxuries. I never said it was a good or bad thing to do. You must feel like its not the best thing to do being you are so defensive about the comment.
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07-25-09 16:09 #3656
Posts: 1342Thoughts Of A Predicate Monger
Originally Posted by Dickhead
Originally Posted by Dickhead
While the Philippines itself is still struggling to pull itself up from the Third world image… no it does not suck.
I didn’t move here for money. Actually I was living in Japan when I moved out to PI. Some things came up I found myself in PI and just said fuck it and chilled. The US was out the door for me. I was having too much fun on this side of the planet.
You never fail to point out how racist your adopted country is? Why would you want to live around people like this? I am thinking of dropping in just to see what the fuck is up. I am wondering maybe I will be treated like 1800s US. It’s fucking 2009. I know some brothers have been down there already. We are not new anywhere.
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Originally Posted by Goga Fung
Originally Posted by Goga Fung
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07-25-09 01:13 #3655
Posts: 3359I was in love with my wife but I refused to move with her. I did once for a school term but then I left her there and she came back. The others were after and I was not getting enough pussy so when I did, it made me loco. I wasn't in love with the ones I did the stupid shit for. So, it was for pussy.
A few inconveniences living here but no "calamities." It must really suck where you are, IL. You just did that for the money. Fine. You probably figure you'll do it for a few years and save up a bunch of money. But even though women are the number one reason I'm here, there are a lot of other reasons. The overall lifestyle is just better for me, and I can save a lot more towards retirement. I think most guys who move to a country just for the pussy will not be happy. I like the pussy here much more than the pussy in the US but I also like most other things here much more. Some guys come here for pussy and try to avoid other aspects of the culture but I've immersed myself in the culture since day one, not just the pussy.
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07-24-09 21:33 #3654
Posts: 606Originally Posted by IllogicOriginally Posted by Thatguy865
Do you say that USA is 1st World luxury? It's only for somebody, sometimes, in some places. Mostly its only overall impression.
Many so-called "3rd" world countries can be much more luxurious than USA. For example, many if not most bars/clubs in USA look like shitholes with trashy people and music. If you compare to night clubs in Eastern Europe and South America, USA looks like 5th world country.
Anyway, what is wrong if a person prefers to have access to a lot of girls (who are also more beautiful and friendlier), so he chooses a "3rld World" country for that. Instead of staying home where the only choice he's got to work hard, eat a lot, watch TV, getting sick, maybe have a buttugly gf, getting pissed, go to doctors, and work even more to pay for his bills. For me it looks insane to be like that.
So some people chose all this materialistic crap and stay safe in "1st world". And some prefer to be able spend time with women in the "3rld world"