The Truth about AIDS

[Aaragon1977]

Guys,

Recently I had sex with an Indian girl in a MP but after the ejaculation when I pulled out the condom was broken. After few days I went to Tashkent for mongering. Had loads of sex but all with Condom but BBBJ, DFK, DATY was there. In Tashkent instead of my usual 8-9 hrs sleep I was just doing it for 4 hrs (should tire me without me realizing maybe?). Had loads of local Vodka also.

After coming to India (9th day from 1st sex in Indian MP) I got fever and difficulty swallowing. No other symptoms though. I took 2 meds and both of these symptoms go away. This is my 3rd day here and I am still feeling sleepy. Was the fever because of AIDS? I am shit scared now. Please tell me something more, only hope I have in my mind is that AIDS symptoms shouldn't come so soon and secondly I think if these were indeed AIDS symptoms then they shouldn't go away in just 2 tablets but what about my sleepiness?

As long as you used condom's for intercourse and the condom did not break you are not at risk for HIV. I am not a doctor but have gone through the same panic. Read the posts in medhelp.

[Rocky Singh]

Guys,

Recently I had sex with an Indian girl in a MP but after the ejaculation when I pulled out the condom was broken. After few days I went to Tashkent for mongering. Had loads of sex but all with Condom but BBBJ, DFK, DATY was there. In Tashkent instead of my usual 8-9 hrs sleep I was just doing it for 4 hrs (should tire me without me realizing maybe?). Had loads of local Vodka also.

After coming to India (9th day from 1st sex in Indian MP) I got fever and difficulty swallowing. No other symptoms though. I took 2 meds and both of these symptoms go away. This is my 3rd day here and I am still feeling sleepy. Was the fever because of AIDS? I am shit scared now. Please tell me something more, only hope I have in my mind is that AIDS symptoms shouldn't come so soon and secondly I think if these were indeed AIDS symptoms then they shouldn't go away in just 2 tablets but what about my sleepiness?

[Member #4349]

Its increasingly clear that Truvada or tenofovir is highly effective against becoming HIV infected (although not totally effective)

http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/injecti...ials-1.1322925

It seems that this drug is made available at reduced prices in developing countries.

Is it possible to take the drug for periods of high risk, then when I'm not mongering stop taking it without adverse consequences?

I'm not HIV pos or a druggie (thank god.) but I want the PrEP before I go mongering on the dark continent.

Should mongers take a course of Truvada before indulging in our high-risk behaviour?

For a couple of hundred dollars could we take the drug for several weeks and have increased (but not total) resistance to the HIV virus?

Granted we would have to watch for all the other sti's, and its not an entirely effective method. I travel sub saharan Africa quite a lot, Kenya etc, I meet plrenty women, pro's amateurs etc, I'd love not to have to be a total condom nazi in these circumstances, but I'm not keen on any "condition" for the rest of my life either.

And how long would I have to carry on taking the drug after arriving back home, and moderating high risk behaviour?

Could I do this for several years running before and after my annual shag-fest holiday?

I know I could combine it with testing my girls with the instant-hiv test kits to make doubly sure. Thing is I wouldn't like to tell anyone they're infected, and it would sure spoil the atmospher

[Clandestine782]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090602760.html

[JayaPapaya]

A friend of mine works for UN Aids and she told me the chances of catching HIV through unprotected sex is 1:10'000 intercourses. However, the only flaw with this statistic is that you don't know whether you will be the first, or only the 10'000th out of these statistical 10'000 times you have unprotected sex with someone carrying the virus. The number is smaller in women (as the ejaculate inside her naturally creates a larger risk of infection) , at 1:8'000. The best way to catch the virus is through unprotected anal sex, especially for the receiver.

Seems that if you keep basic guide lines of wearing condoms, wash yourself before and after, and chose your partners well, that even with having multiple partners you can keep the risk very low.

One thing I always do (not very scientific) is to look at the girl's skin, gum (say when she smiles) , eyes, and lips. Plus, by time you go down-under, to make sure there are no spots, excrements, etc. Other than HIV, there are other diseases, which can be a problem. HIV is harder to catch than most other STDs.

[Clandestine782]

These analyses have been more sophisticated up until the inserts of this TROLL.

[TomJackin]

No documented case through oral sex and questionable through straight sex for a male. If you have HIV and you're a male. You are bisexual, gay, drug user. Thanks

No thanks! Ask the straight males in Africa how they got HIV. Jeez, are people that ignorant about the disease?

[Cartagena Tout]

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/survei...ph_550x319.jpg

This is something interesting. I found this in the context of looking for something else.

Since this is so trivial, I get something like:

40950 new infections per annum.

27. 3% are in White MSMs.

25. 9% are in Black MSMs.

16. 3% are in Hispanic MSMs.

So far we have 69. 5% of new infections in gay men (of all races). If you do the math, gay men might be something like 1. 5-2% of the population. So, the risk ratio (defined as the rate of infections vs. Number in population) is about 46. 3:1-34. 75:1.

Going a bit further:

Black heterosexuals (male and female combined) are 19. 5. Risk ratio of blacks: 1. 5:1 Assume 13% of population.

All heterosexuals (black, white, hispanic) : 25. 6%

Risk ratio: 0. 26:1. Assume 97% of population.

I'll ignore the information for drug users. It's too small to worry about.

So, the risk ratio for all heterosexuals vs all homosexuals is: 178:1 all the way down to 134:1 (calculated by taking the ratio of the relative risk).

No one will engage me on this point, but I would argue that this would be a way to estimate the relative likelihood of HIV contraction for a single act of unprotected heterosexual sex vs homosexual sex. It may well be over 100 times more likely (and just under 200 times more likely) that you can be infected with HIV from gay sex as from straight sex through a person who is HIV positive.

So, your best choice for a partner would be:

White heterosexuals nonwhite heterosexuals white gays all gays black gays

Don't let gays stick there prong in your butt and you will never have to worry about. Of course wash yourself, take a [CodeWord140] and make sure you are clipped.

[Cartagena Tout]

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/survei...ph_550x319.jpg

This is something interesting. I found this in the context of looking for something else.

Since this is so trivial, I get something like:

40950 new infections per annum.

27. 3% are in White MSMs.

25. 9% are in Black MSMs.

16. 3% are in Hispanic MSMs.

So far we have 69. 5% of new infections in gay men (of all races). If you do the math, gay men might be something like 1. 5-2% of the population. So, the risk ratio (defined as the rate of infections vs. Number in population) is about 46. 3:1-34. 75:1.

Going a bit further:

Black heterosexuals (male and female combined) are 19. 5. Risk ratio of blacks: 1. 5:1 Assume 13% of population.

All heterosexuals (black, white, hispanic) : 25. 6%

Risk ratio: 0. 26:1. Assume 97% of population.

I'll ignore the information for drug users. It's too small to worry about.

So, the risk ratio for all heterosexuals vs all homosexuals is: 178:1 all the way down to 134:1 (calculated by taking the ratio of the relative risk).

No one will engage me on this point, but I would argue that this would be a way to estimate the relative likelihood of HIV contraction for a single act of unprotected heterosexual sex vs homosexual sex. It may well be over 100 times more likely (and just under 200 times more likely) that you can be infected with HIV from gay sex as from straight sex through a person who is HIV positive.

So, your best choice for a partner would be:

White heterosexuals nonwhite heterosexuals white gays all gays black gays

No documented case through oral sex and questionable through straight sex for a male. If you have HIV and you're a male. You are bisexual, gay, drug user. Thanks

[XXL]

Does anyone know something about this drug?

It seems to be for external use. In other words it's no use once you are infected. There are plenty of substances out there - eg the sterilising solutions used in hospitals - that kill all bacteria and viruses when used on the skin or outside the body. Nothing new there IMO.

[XXL]

To tell the truth, if you're a travelling pussy hunter, doesn't the rising threat of resistant gonorrhoea now dwarf the risk of becoming HIV positive? Maybe we should have a new thread on this forum dedicated to this looming thing. I would be curious whether some of our fellow mongers have been unfortunate enough to be infected with such a bug.

P.S. : I also know of a couple where the woman who was HIV positive and taking the medications hadn't informed her lover of her status. Their relationship involving lots of anal sex went on for 3 years before he got wind. He got himself tested and turned out negative. He was first furious at her and wanted to break up but they're now together again, whether barebacking as ever I don't know.

[Clandestine782]

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/survei...ph_550x319.jpg

This is something interesting. I found this in the context of looking for something else.

Since this is so trivial, I get something like:

40950 new infections per annum.

27. 3% are in White MSMs.

25. 9% are in Black MSMs.

16. 3% are in Hispanic MSMs.

So far we have 69. 5% of new infections in gay men (of all races). If you do the math, gay men might be something like 1. 5-2% of the population. So, the risk ratio (defined as the rate of infections vs. Number in population) is about 46.3:1-34.75:1.

Going a bit further:

Black heterosexuals (male and female combined) are 19. 5. Risk ratio of blacks: 1. 5:1 Assume 13% of population.

All heterosexuals (black, white, hispanic) : 25. 6%

Risk ratio: 0. 26:1. Assume 97% of population.

I'll ignore the information for drug users. It's too small to worry about.

So, the risk ratio for all heterosexuals vs all homosexuals is: 178:1 all the way down to 134:1 (calculated by taking the ratio of the relative risk).

No one will engage me on this point, but I would argue that this would be a way to estimate the relative likelihood of HIV contraction for a single act of unprotected heterosexual sex vs homosexual sex. It may well be over 100 times more likely (and just under 200 times more likely) that you can be infected with HIV from gay sex as from straight sex through a person who is HIV positive.

So, your best choice for a partner would be:

White heterosexuals nonwhite heterosexuals white gays all gays black gays

[Clandestine782]

Bro,

What are chances of transmission thru Oral sex, of course we miss the fun, been blown with a condom.

Very nearly zero. Saliva has some type of destructive effect on HIV. Not sure about the mechanistic details. Of course, there are many other things that you COULD get, but HIV is very unlikely to be one of them through BBBJ.

[EastGoing]

Does anyone know something about this drug? Any doctors among us? I mean real doctors, I specify this because months ago, in a german thread, I got unpleasant comments from a selfclaiming doctor, he was stating some ridiculous things about herpes following a discussion about somebody's questions. I learnt about miramistin by reading our fellow Jymondor in the AO thread tonight. If it works, all STDs and STIs would be cancelled from earth, it should be known and used everywhere, I travelled a lot but never heard about it. I just read several pages from google search, it was studied and developed in Russia in around 1994, nearly 20 years and still unknown and not copied in western countries?

[MichealRen1]

Hiv does not spread easily from your digestive system to infect someone. Even if you swallowed a tiny bit of infected blood, you should be okay even if she is infected, but I am not sure you are totally safe. I would not worry about the old cut at all.

I think the risk level here is very low, but if you are unsure get tested to give yourself peace of mind.

I think 99. 99999% you are okay.

Bro,

What are chances of transmission thru Oral sex, of course we miss the fun, been blown with a condom.