American Women

[Rjsss212]

Both my heads are fine as is what's in them, thank You.

Impulse? I am anything but impulsive. And who are these cows you speak of? I've never fucked a cow. My AM are mostly the same as the Latins. Check my pics. And wouldn't you even concede that some might consider flying to third world or "developing countries", for no other reason but sex with young girls, an addiction?

And do you think you were the one who figured out it ain't free?

[TellAll]

When it comes to AM discussions you seem to get caught up a little in your own head. Your posts in the Patts thread, to me, seem much clearer.

I monger for maybe one of the oldest reasons and one that, as a full time monger, you know well. I pay them to leave.

I have no problem getting AM. I've been a sex addict all my life (and that's not changing anytime soon) and that's the mission if you're an addict. To get sex. Period.

Now, do I pay? Por supuesto! Everybody pays! A 9 dollar lunch is paying. Most people don't think of it that way and most men slough off the minor stuff but to the guy who doesn't have $9, its paying. Same as handing her pesos in Panama.

Sitting across from her holding a fake smile and remembering to laugh occasionally when your bored out of your fuking mind is paying. Having to swap texts, phone calls, listening to sick cat stories. All paying. Just with patience or time, etc.

We all pay somehow. Movie stars pay. Sure they get a lot of free sex but eventually the halo wears off and she wants more. Time to pay (with emotions, time, etc) or leave and its not always to extract yourself and somehow, someway you always pay.

Consider the old expression "show me a beautiful woman and somewhere there's a guy who's tired of fucking her". He's paying 'cause now he's stuck.

If you want to get laid you do what you have to. Period. You buy meals, call when you're supposed to and do all the other stupid shit required to get sex. It hasn't changed in 100 years. Men have always paid. Get over it.

Now, if this discussion is about what should be or what you want it to be or in this or that country or times past then that's a different discussion.

I still bang AM but I have money and now that I'm slightly older I have much less patience and value my time more and more so I pay in dollars more often than ever.

If you want sex, you're paying.

The difference is, just like the river doesn't complain about the rocks in its way, I don't whine about it. I get it done because after all we need the sex, no?

Both my heads are fine as is what's in them, thank You.

I am not a sex addict like you so I am not driven by impulse. I just like young women other than AW's. I have money also and like you my time is more important to me. I could play the dating game but choose not to.

Since I am forced to pay for what I should be getting for free, I choose to do it on my own terms.

You enyoy your addiction, feed it and pay for it the way you see fit. I choose not to spend my time sitting across from some cow pretending she's interesting to get layed.

I'd rather spend the money for a hottie and be done with it.

You also made my point, there is no such thing as free.

[Rjsss212]

He's also misguided enough to believe that he isn't paying for it one way or another.
I say that because if he's getting so much free ass, wtf is he doing here.

When it comes to AM discussions you seem to get caught up a little in your own head. Your posts in the Patts thread, to me, seem much clearer.

I monger for maybe one of the oldest reasons and one that, as a full time monger, you know well. I pay them to leave.

I have no problem getting AM. I've been a sex addict all my life (and that's not changing anytime soon) and that's the mission if you're an addict. To get sex. Period.

Now, do I pay? Por supuesto! Everybody pays! A 9 dollar lunch is paying. Most people don't think of it that way and most men slough off the minor stuff but to the guy who doesn't have $9, its paying. Same as handing her pesos in Panama.

Sitting across from her holding a fake smile and remembering to laugh occasionally when your bored out of your fuking mind is paying. Having to swap texts, phone calls, listening to sick cat stories. All paying. Just with patience or time, etc.

We all pay somehow. Movie stars pay. Sure they get a lot of free sex but eventually the halo wears off and she wants more. Time to pay (with emotions, time, etc) or leave and its not always to extract yourself and somehow, someway you always pay.

Consider the old expression "show me a beautiful woman and somewhere there's a guy who's tired of fucking her". He's paying 'cause now he's stuck.

If you want to get laid you do what you have to. Period. You buy meals, call when you're supposed to and do all the other stupid shit required to get sex. It hasn't changed in 100 years. Men have always paid. Get over it.

Now, if this discussion is about what should be or what you want it to be or in this or that country or times past then that's a different discussion.

I still bang AM but I have money and now that I'm slightly older I have much less patience and value my time more and more so I pay in dollars more often than ever.

If you want sex, you're paying.

The difference is, just like the river doesn't complain about the rocks in its way, I don't whine about it. I get it done because after all we need the sex, no?

[Mr Enternational]

That is SavePros at 3:03...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2mrI1QWWgzk

[D Cups]

Ya, it's true. I am from there and don't dare say anything to my married relatives about my exploits and lifestyle. It would surely cause divorce and alienation from me. [QUOTE=Naked Gunz They don't have a clue as to what's really on the other side of the oceans and borders. Especially Midwest men.

[Naked Gunz]

Some guys will still choose to participate in this ridiculous dating system. After all, people do things that they know are bad for them like smoking, drinking alcohol or snorting cocaine. As for Plenty-of-Fish, I know a coworker making over six figures who is a member. He would recount his dates to me back at the office. They all involved low quality women using him for free meals, drinks and entertainment. He never got any pussy. In fact, the only thing that got banged one night was the rental car. One of his POF dates had a jealous ex-husband who kicked in the back panel.

They don't have a clue as to what's really on the other side of the oceans and borders. Especially Midwest men. They stick to the script. I cringe when I hear them talk about obeying the wife, and giving all the check to her. They buy into the Christian right dogma of love the flag, mom and apple pie. This shit is constantly on TV. The fake fluff being broadcast in every home has shaped this mindset. TV shows of pussy whipped family men (Mike and Molly, Loves Raymond), commercials selling products to women by showing a man as incapable of doing anything).

[Chocha Monger]

The belief that men and women are equal is incompatible with the idea that a man must pay for a woman's meals and entertainment on a date. If the woman expects compensation in the form of free meals, drinks and entertainment in return for showing up to evaluate if the man is worth fucking, that means she considers the man to have less intrinsic value based solely on his gender. They're not coming to the tables as equals and the man is a supplicant pleading his case as to why he should get some pussy. He is paying for his own job interview with the woman so she can decide if she will make him pay much more. She has her list of qualifications he must meet like wealth, education, nice car, house, etc. The truth is that a woman like that isn't interested in men. She is interested in what resources they can offer her in return for pussy access. In that case, the man would be better off cutting out the overhead of a date and going straight to negotiating the price of her pussy.

In Sweden, gender equality is not just preached. It's practiced. An American woman dating in Sweden would hate it because Swedish men would not be picking up the bill for her meals, drinks and entertainment. They're also not big on asking for a woman's number or calling her up after a night of hot stank fucking to soothe her insecurities on where things are going, or not going.

American women pay lip service to the idea of gender equality. In reality, they want to be above men in relationships. This is the real reason they say that men and women are equal but still expect the man to pick up their bill and follow the rules of ancient chivalry. The truth is most of these women cannot past the same financial scrutiny they apply to men. Their finances are a mess and they're debt ridden from spending more than they earn. It's no secret that women account for most of the spending on consumer goods in America.

Some guys will still choose to participate in this ridiculous dating system. After all, people do things that they know are bad for them like smoking, drinking alcohol or snorting cocaine. As for Plenty-of-Fish, I know a coworker making over six figures who is a member. He would recount his dates to me back at the office. They all involved low quality women using him for free meals, drinks and entertainment. He never got any pussy. In fact, the only thing that got banged one night was the rental car. One of his POF dates had a jealous ex-husband who kicked in the back panel.

[The Cane]

It's settled. ThatGuy is a chick. Only chicks talk like that.

The jig is up, ThatGurl865. Stop trolling us and go back to Pop Sugar or some shit.

That's certainly my suspicion too. Thus, I started in with the "ThatGirl" moniker. There have been many things posted here by this person that lead me to strongly suspect it's a woman with nothing better to do with her time than trolling mongers.

[D Cups]

Well, good luck with THAT, ThatGuy. You and the POF (putrid old fuck) blimpie are probably made for each other. Make sure you watch some chick flick and be prepared to have her cut your balls off.

After reading this thread I actually tried POF. It's a gold mine. Immediately got responses. Met one for an afternoon date at Chilli's. Set me back a whole $11.95 . A few more phone calls and she comes over. Drank some wine a little cheese and crackers. Bam. She was on the dickhead like a mouse on cheese. Sunday she's coming over for DVD, popcorn w / some dick for dessert. How was your week.

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[ThatGuy865]

After reading this thread I actually tried POF. It's a gold mine. Immediately got responses. Met one for an afternoon date at Chilli's. Set me back a whole $11.95 . A few more phone calls and she comes over. Drank some wine a little cheese and crackers. Bam. She was on the dickhead like a mouse on cheese. Sunday she's coming over for DVD, popcorn w / some dick for dessert. How was your week.

[ThatGuy865]

What you don't get is why do you have to pay anything if they like you.

For a woman, liking a guy and wanting to fuck him are two different things. Most women do not want to fuck a guy upon the 1st meeting unless he's a Brad Pitt model type or undeniably Rich. Women know they can get dick anywhere, anytime. There are guys that will fuck anything so for a woman they have the advantage of limiting who they fuck to only those they really have some type of feelings. Therefore they want at least time to make that assessment. 20 yr old don't expect dinner because they know guys their age don't have funds. But a woman wants to see what type of man they are dealing with. Why should a woman fuck a poor, broke ass man when she can just as easily find one w / a job. Especially if he isn't a 10. Now if you're a 10 then I can see you complaining. But if you're just avg why should she just fuck you at sight, when she can get avg dick all day long. Women have that advantage. What makes you special. That's reality. Deal with it.

[TellAll]

There is a huge difference between taking someone out on a date and P4P. Most do not consider spending $20 to have company while dinning paying for sex. And yes for a 1st date, you can spend only $20. Make it a lunch date, Go to a place like Friday's, Chi chi's, there are many places w / under $20 meals. Hell meet at a coffee shop and spend less than $10. You are paying for their company and conversation.

Using that logic when guys buy beers for buddies. It should be considered buying friendships. But you don't hear guys saying that. But P4P guys always have to go with theoretical logic to justify their need to out right pay for sex. Only they say that same old tired line. You pay for sex one way or another. Its a silly notion used to justify P4P. Save-a-Pro has an approach, his choice. He doesn't want to spend any money on a date, But to say it would have been paying for sex is ridiculous, it's paying to have company at a meal. I'm sure eventually he'll find a woman that will go for that approach. If he feels stroking with his hand in the mean time is a better option. I'm happy for him. I don't think he'll convince many outside of the few AW haters on this thread, that's a better option though.

What you don't get is why do you have to pay anything if they like you. Especially since most men and women don't stop at coffee date. It goes to dinner amd more.

I have come to the conclusion that you are either female, Gay or worse a feminist man. All is ok with me but I still don't understand why you are here. I am headed back to Thailand in a few weeks. Luckily I don't have to live here in the USA. If you are ever there drop me a message. I may say lets have a drink or I may say go fuck yourself. Either way as a man you should be used to the rejection. But here right now I will let you have the last word because the three species I mentioned always wants it.

Enjoy the life.

Tell.

[ThatGuy865]

He's also misguided enough to believe that he isn't paying for it one way or another.
I say that because if he's getting so much free ass, wtf is he doing here.

There is a huge difference between taking someone out on a date and P4P. Most do not consider spending $20 to have company while dinning paying for sex. And yes for a 1st date, you can spend only $20. Make it a lunch date, Go to a place like Friday's, Chi chi's, there are many places w / under $20 meals. Hell meet at a coffee shop and spend less than $10. You are paying for their company and conversation.

Using that logic when guys buy beers for buddies. It should be considered buying friendships. But you don't hear guys saying that. But P4P guys always have to go with theoretical logic to justify their need to out right pay for sex. Only they say that same old tired line. You pay for sex one way or another. Its a silly notion used to justify P4P. Save-a-Pro has an approach, his choice. He doesn't want to spend any money on a date, But to say it would have been paying for sex is ridiculous, it's paying to have company at a meal. I'm sure eventually he'll find a woman that will go for that approach. If he feels stroking with his hand in the mean time is a better option. I'm happy for him. I don't think he'll convince many outside of the few AW haters on this thread, that's a better option though.

[TellAll]

Paying to get laid is the exact opposite of the situation he explained. The woman was "turned off" because he refused to pay for her. Savepros made it clear that they could meet and if they had sex it would be because of mutual attraction not because he spent money. You either can not read, do not speak English, or you like to imagine things the way you want them to be, to compensate for being a white knight.

He's also misguided enough to believe that he isn't paying for it one way or another.
I say that because if he's getting so much free ass, wtf is he doing here.

[SeizeTheDay]

Wow, another "tough guy" who can't get laid without dead presidents. Your in the right thread.

Paying to get laid is the exact opposite of the situation he explained. The woman was "turned off" because he refused to pay for her. Savepros made it clear that they could meet and if they had sex it would be because of mutual attraction not because he spent money. You either can not read, do not speak English, or you like to imagine things the way you want them to be, to compensate for being a white knight.