American Women

[Artisttyp]

Spoken like a true non South American Woman.

Women like men. (except in North America). I personally know more than a handful of black men married to S. A. Women. Mostly professional university educated women. A number of these guys still live in S. A.

I have to go with bango on this one. Around 2 years ago I met a really attractive peruvian black girl online. When I arrived to Lima we met and all went very well. However I was amazed how quickly sweet peruvian people turned sour when we were walking hand in hand. I've never gotten so many shady looks in my life. She was hot and I was totally into it but it did come at a price.

Secretly latin girls have asked me with a disgusted face if I've ever slept with black woman. Taxi drivers have done the same thing.

* I helped out a fellow monger in Lima who happened to be african american. We are both from NYC so we hit it off very well. We did the chongos and a few other places and people were giving us shady looks or smirking. That doesn't happen when I am alone. It really affected me because I felt so much pain for this guy. Even worse was knowing it was coming from people I considered to be nice. It was ugly to see.

Latin people like to disassociate themselves from any sort of african heritage they might have. Most try to align themselves with their spanish roots.

I personally visit SA for the moreo / inigenas culture. Two cultures that are severely marginalized in latin america.

IMHO there is no flavor or vibe without these races in SA. It is them who make SA interesting.

Same ol same ol. Those with identity issues need to make up for it through negativity.

I'd say there are better places for african american men. If you brake the mold and succeed all the power to you. These days I try to spend time where I am appreciated not somewhere I have to keep my guard up. Life is too short.

[Drlawyer]

The problem I have with the car is that it keeps people aparte and breeds isolation and alienation.

And no, I would say on the average that South American women STRONGLY do not prefer black men, sorry to say. Maybe in Brazil it would be the only place that would be the exception to that.

Spoken like a true non South American Woman.

Women like men. (except in North America). I personally know more than a handful of black men married to S. A. Women. Mostly professional university educated women. A number of these guys still live in S. A.

[Chocha Monger]

As you said it might be Bango, but LTR is of interest to me and to others that use and view this thread. There other websites like Relationshit and No Marriage and I belong to those because I understand that Men in America are under fire.

But I have every right to be here. I don't expect either of you to have answers most of you come from failed relationships to start with and getting only your side of the story. I give you the benefit of the doubt because I understand how AW can be.

For the record, because the album is too motherfucking long, everyone has "failed relationships" unless they marry the first person they fuck and remain married to that person until they die period! The only other exception is if you're like That Asshole, the monger who said that he never had a girlfriend in his life, and paid for each and every piece of ass you ever got. Otherwise if you ever had a girlfriend and broke up then the relationship failed. That means pretty much everyone has failed relationships in the West.

Also, some of us have had girlfriends for longer than most marriages last. I have dated women for years that I decided to let go because they wanted marriage. In fact, the last one I let go married another guy and in less than a year the marriage came to a violent end. I think I made the right decision. I also have a very attractive college educated girl running my business and making monthly desposits into my account. I love pussy but I love it even more when it pays me. I could marry and give up strange pussy anytime I choose. However, I don't see any compelling reason for doing so.

Anyway, I'm getting what I want out of life there is no need for static. Other young cats with money like DD and Warbucks tried to give you advice on how succeed but you don't want it. So, just do you man. Live your life. I wouldn't comment on your shit.

[Cuero99]

Although a few could be different, based on my experiences I've learned never to trust in the concept of any of these better-looking south american girls being faithful or honest. During my numerous stays in Colombia and Peru I've been with too many innocent seeming girls "committed to" unknowing boyfriends local or foreign who banged me for money (while incidentally usually seemed to enjoy the act as much as I did and were happy to repeat, and text me the "cuando vienes" when I am far away).

Emotionally like DJ4M I love the idea of having a faithful and lovely life companion by my side. But add to the above the reality of the ongoing decline in the value of the dollar and its likely eventual complete collapse, and the result is, even if I happened to fall in love with a lovely Colombiana or Peruana that I really trusted, I consider the idea of me importing her to be my wife with the idea that I can offer her a better life in the US long-term than what she has a total non-starter and bad bad idea, even as a very experienced technology worker taking home an income in the top 10% of the current US salary range.

[Bango Cheito]

That's the big issue isn't it. What's the best way to get laid. With money, with game, or with just plain good looks. I used to think exactly like DD (or like Jackson) that money is the way to do it, hands down. Now I'm not so sure, I see plusses and minuses to every aspect. I think it depends on specifically what your goals are as far as "getting laid". Some people want a different girl every day, some don't want so much variety but want a lot of kink and experimentation, some want more romance than others etc.

I also think the line between "good girls" and "bad girls" is bullshit. In a perfect world they'd ALL be bad. Women are naturally actually HORNIER than men, but society puts a lot of pressure on them to repress their sexuality. But given the right bunch of circumstances, good girls turn bad real fucking fast and viceversa.

My friends here in Bogota and I debate this shit on a daily basis and what's more we are scientifically exploring all the options to see what actually works best. .

The only thing I can say is, don't come down here expecting to find"true love", even IF you think you know the culture, much less if you don't at all. Colombia is an awesome country for P4P. I strongly recommend people who visit here leave it at that.

[ThatGuy865]

WRONG.

My point was not that you could or could not work if the end goal is to work overseas. It was the length of time it is going to take before the likely hood of it being possible / or happening will be years down the road.

So are you going to sit around. Waiting for that time before you again seek to have a relationship with a woman. If you start working full time. As a new employee you probably won't get enough vacation time, usually only 2wks, to have any decent relationship with a women overseas.

You will be older and the world (and womens attitudes) are changing rapidly, what might be available now. Maybe a totally different situation. 10 yrs ago Brazil and Thailand. Were dirt cheap destinations. Now look. No more. And the women's attitude in both have changed.

With the internet and women's organizations. Women's attitude's around the world are going to become closer to the AW. Egypt the women are demanding more rights, and to be written in their new constitution. This would have been unheard of 10 years ago in a Middle eastern country.

I'm just saying I'd keep looking with AW for what you want. Ok, if you don't find her. What have you lost. But what if she is there. And you have the opportunity. But you don't. Only because you have closed yourself off to AW and therefore you miss opportunities. Thats all I'm pointing. Out Keep looking while you put your plan in motion. There are over 30 million single women in america. To say there isn't a woman that meets your needs would suggest one has to look at their own self then to see If they have realistic criteria.

In fact you are in fact acting in the same manner as the AW you so despise. You have set your standard based on a certain criteria. And unwilling to compromise. But yet the woman are fucked up because they have criteria that you don't meet for quite a few AW. (like a good paying job, not living with parents showing responsibility and independence).

I mean why are they screwed up. But your view is not?

[DJ FourMoney]

I'd hate to burst your bubble. But now more than ever. A degree is necessary for any IT position. Sure there are people who work from experience alone. Just like there are HS players who make the NBA. Thats about the chances you have of finding an IT without REAL job experience and no degree. Not some part time fixing the neighbors computers. Or I networked the churches system down the street crap. Every HS kid is doing that these days.

For Multi National companies you will be up against all those individuals who have been layoff because of outsourcing. With Degree's and certifications. Because its cheaper to outsource and. And most companies that don't outsource. Import H1B's from India and soon China.

So you have big time competition. And thats not even mentioning those top college grads who like you. Also did part time work. . But also got a degree.

Very few companies hire non specialist who need no type of supervision or guidance and send them overseas to work.

I'm not saying don't try. I'm just saying be realistic in your projections. Yeah you might get a job in the IT field. Which would be hard enough. But to realistically think your 1st full time job would send you overseas. Is very optimistic.

WRONG.

Several Students out my instructors class have gotten jobs with Citibank, Dell and HP / Compaq right out of school they come into the class to recruit. There are several jobs I have found on Dice. Com that strictly list "A+ is preferred". To gain "experience" I have already considered donating my talent and time to a non-profit.

Did I say somewhere my first IT job would be overseas? Stop putting words into my mouth or get your reading glasses out and read my post again. I never said straight out of school I would get a IT job in Europe or anywhere for that matter. However stranger things have happen and like I said my instructor is a savvy guy.

Also you make it sound as though IT is crowded, its not its still considered "Geek" work and "uncool". Not every dude is going to be the founders of Google or the founder (s) of Facebook, My Space, etc. Women like them and Bill Gates because they have money.

DD is saying Money Solves everything, when I come from a perspective that says "More Money, More Problems"

Back to your rant about Americans not being hired in the EU. Just to let you know I have seen the same handful of jobs open for DHL in the Czech Republic for almost a year. Seeking NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS, which would cover all the Anglo-Saxon countries and I come from one. The United States.

Those jobs are still open, I wonder why Brits aren't beating a path to Prague?

I would develop some experience locally I never said I would go fresh out of school and apply for jobs overseas, but just because I have blocked you and you seem to chase me around this thread, I might look into it in-spite of you.

Going into A+, I already know 70% and have built my own PC's before including the HTPC I use every single day. But why would I go into a $240 test unprepared, so I'm taking this class for $70 and get a discount on both 701 and 702 test. All 50 of his students from the previous 9 weeks all have A+ CompTIA certificates. 8 of them have Network + without having to take an additional class.

Don't underestimate me, for $70 I'm getting enough info for not only A+, but Network +, MS Help Desk and Security +, which the instructor just took and passed himself.

He produces quality students and companies know that. It seems people like you are butt hurt that you spent thousands of dollars on degrees when people taking classes at Trade School can get those same jobs. Sorry but almost every Kid in his Saturday class is a "Gamer", talk constantly about Call of Duty 4 and Diablo 2, they aren't setting up networks for the local Church cause they don't know how and they ignore the instructor. My homie lays cable for networks and he didn't go to college either. Going to university doesn't mean you're best prepared for a job. Seems to me people that didn't go to college are considered loose cannons by some companies and harder to control, which is likely why they might pick the in-debt college student over the trade school graduate.

[DJ FourMoney]

DJ,

I think you're mixing up Bango and I, probably because I did not post for almost a year. Anyway, that's not important. You do realize that you're on a monger forum when you're seeking a wife? The advice and information here is primarily oriented to finding women and fucking them at the lowest financial risk to men. Therefore you will find that it is "anti-marriage." There ain't no love in this shit. If you seriously want a wife you should participate in a forum of like minded men. Sex tourism and wife hunting do not mix. Don't be a sex tourist or associate with them if you're seeking to commit to one woman.

As you said it might be Bango, but LTR is of interest to me and to others that use and view this thread. There other websites like Relationshit and No Marriage and I belong to those because I understand that Men in America are under fire.

But I have every right to be here. I don't expect either of you to have answers most of you come from failed relationships to start with and getting only your side of the story. I give you the benefit of the doubt because I understand how AW can be.

[DJ FourMoney]

The problem I have with the car is that it keeps people aparte and breeds isolation and alienation.

And no, I would say on the average that South American women STRONGLY do not prefer black men, sorry to say. Maybe in Brazil it would be the only place that would be the exception to that.

I guess that would be appliance users you're talking about. I react with many people on the road. Usually people that own the same car I did, since only 30, 000 were built from 2003 to 2005. I connect with other "car guys" at weekly events like "Cars and Coffee" or another spot where normal types like me get to bump elbows and trade stories with guys that are successful and like to show it off it bit by buying exotic Italian sports cars.

Buses are awful silent as well, I've been taking the bus on a regular basis since the last time I drove my Protetge 5 on June 25, 2009. In fact so is the Red Line (subway) , not much is being said and people keep to themselves so its not just cars are to blame.

[DJ FourMoney]

Bingo you hit it on the nail CM!

While your doing hand stands, I dabble in P4P. I did so in Germany with the help of this web site, I do so when I can afford it down in Mexico due to this web site.

Being single does not mean begging other single women for it by taking them out and expecting them to put out by the 3rd date.

Instead of dealing with that, I go the P4P route because what I ultimately want is sex, so I BELONG HERE just as much as you do.

In the end however, I have my "defenders" on this site and I'm not the only one. The LTR forum doesn't get much traffic but it does get used.

[Bango Cheito]

Sure I understand how its used in cultural terms, its used as measure to size up several things from economics, social and cultural norms. If you own a lowered sport compact that can be deemed as a guy that lacks maturity. If you own a BMW, it could me you have attained a level of success, depending on model. But the 3 series is often regarded as the car to have for mid-level management or up-and-coming white collar workers.

So yes I know how it works, but I like mechanical things, especially cars and I enjoy racing, not only myself but watching it, attending events, whatever. As I said you likely don't understand so I can't really explain it in terms you might understand it in and its largely foreign to most NYC dwellers as well.

CM you view your sex life from a position of a formerly overweight person, as you have often mention needing to loose weight. Then you transpose it on top of my live, I don't think that's fair. I like White Women and not every White Girl is "Down For The Brown", so that limits my pool and selection. It still hasn't been proven to me that Latinas especially from South America like Black Men beyond the P4P market and that's a bit hard to tell on this forum. That is why I need to investigate South America, in Europe I already know where to be Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany. I do know some Slavic women like Black and not the type of women that DD has been running into which I assume is the model type. I've been contacted by several Slavic women on various sites but I haven't returned those messages because of my financial problems at the moment. So I know its possible to find somebody.

The problem I have with the car is that it keeps people aparte and breeds isolation and alienation.

And no, I would say on the average that South American women STRONGLY do not prefer black men, sorry to say. Maybe in Brazil it would be the only place that would be the exception to that.

[ThatGuy865]

I choose IT because its one of the few careers that don't require a college degree and requires English in many cases. I was already well versed in computers so it just made sense and for my meager investment of $70 at a local occupational center I will get enough information to pass not only the CompTIA A+ but the Network + as well in 9 weeks! The class across the street (Jr College) takes an entire semester and you'll only get enough info for A+. My instructor had run his own computer business since the 5. 25 floppy days.

I am on the right track, I just need some experience and I can gain that at home while I work locally and search for my bride online and make trips abroad as needed. By the time I have 2-3 years of experience I can start applying for jobs with the UN in Geneva, NATO in Brussels or with international companies like DHL who currently has opening in IT as I write this, as well as the two places I just mentioned, don't believe me? Have a look at their job boards.

I'd hate to burst your bubble. But now more than ever. A degree is necessary for any IT position. Sure there are people who work from experience alone. Just like there are HS players who make the NBA. Thats about the chances you have of finding an IT without REAL job experience and no degree. Not some part time fixing the neighbors computers. Or I networked the churches system down the street crap. Every HS kid is doing that these days.

For Multi National companies you will be up against all those individuals who have been layoff because of outsourcing. With Degree's and certifications. Because its cheaper to outsource and. And most companies that don't outsource. Import H1B's from India and soon China.

So you have big time competition. And thats not even mentioning those top college grads who like you. Also did part time work. . But also got a degree.

Very few companies hire non specialist who need no type of supervision or guidance and send them overseas to work.

I'm not saying don't try. I'm just saying be realistic in your projections. Yeah you might get a job in the IT field. Which would be hard enough. But to realistically think your 1st full time job would send you overseas. Is very optimistic.

[Capt Ajax]

DJ,

I think you're mixing up Bango and I, probably because I did not post for almost a year. Anyway, that's not important. You do realize that you're on a monger forum when you're seeking a wife? The advice and information here is primarily oriented to finding women and fucking them at the lowest financial risk to men. Therefore you will find that it is "anti-marriage." There ain't no love in this shit. If you seriously want a wife you should participate in a forum of like minded men. Sex tourism and wife hunting do not mix. Don't be a sex tourist or associate with them if you're seeking to commit to one woman.

Bingo you hit it on the nail CM!

[Chocha Monger]

Sure I understand how its used in cultural terms, its used as measure to size up several things from economics, social and cultural norms. If you own a lowered sport compact that can be deemed as a guy that lacks maturity. If you own a BMW, it could me you have attained a level of success, depending on model. But the 3 series is often regarded as the car to have for mid-level management or up-and-coming white collar workers.

So yes I know how it works, but I like mechanical things, especially cars and I enjoy racing, not only myself but watching it, attending events, whatever. As I said you likely don't understand so I can't really explain it in terms you might understand it in and its largely foreign to most NYC dwellers as well.

CM you view your sex life from a position of a formerly overweight person, as you have often mention needing to loose weight. Then you transpose it on top of my live, I don't think that's fair. I like White Women and not every White Girl is "Down For The Brown", so that limits my pool and selection. It still hasn't been proven to me that Latinas especially from South America like Black Men beyond the P4P market and that's a bit hard to tell on this forum. That is why I need to investigate South America, in Europe I already know where to be Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany. I do know some Slavic women like Black and not the type of women that DD has been running into which I assume is the model type. I've been contacted by several Slavic women on various sites but I haven't returned those messages because of my financial problems at the moment. So I know its possible to find somebody.

DJ,

I think you're mixing up Bango and I, probably because I did not post for almost a year. Anyway, that's not important. You do realize that you're on a monger forum when you're seeking a wife? The advice and information here is primarily oriented to finding women and fucking them at the lowest financial risk to men. Therefore you will find that it is "anti-marriage." There ain't no love in this shit. If you seriously want a wife you should participate in a forum of like minded men. Sex tourism and wife hunting do not mix. Don't be a sex tourist or associate with them if you're seeking to commit to one woman.

[DJ FourMoney]

DJ you have to realize, the way the car is used in the USA counts for much of the cultural problems, not to mention people's sorry-ass physical state. It's not that easy to separate them.

I really think in the US it's more about money. In other parts of the world being good-looking counts for more. But who knows. I plan on going back to NYC good-looking (and broke) in June for a few weeks, let's see what pops.

Some friend of mine in NYC somebody wanted to insult her they called her a "groupie to a broke music manager". Note the "broke" in the statement. The implication is a man with money DESERVES NO PUSSY. I was kinda shocked by it, now that I no longer live in that culture, it was like a slap in the face to me. But that's the reality of the culture.

Here in Colombia it's the reverse of what you might expect. I will tell you know that I'm going on 3 years here, I have it absolutely statiscially proven, the richer girls here are more after money, with most of the girls from the poorer neighborhoods. They will NOT give it up for you unless you are physically very easy on the eyes, this is the most aesthetically oriented place you can imagine. There are exceptions but they are few and far between.

Sure I understand how its used in cultural terms, its used as measure to size up several things from economics, social and cultural norms. If you own a lowered sport compact that can be deemed as a guy that lacks maturity. If you own a BMW, it could me you have attained a level of success, depending on model. But the 3 series is often regarded as the car to have for mid-level management or up-and-coming white collar workers.

So yes I know how it works, but I like mechanical things, especially cars and I enjoy racing, not only myself but watching it, attending events, whatever. As I said you likely don't understand so I can't really explain it in terms you might understand it in and its largely foreign to most NYC dwellers as well.

CM you view your sex life from a position of a formerly overweight person, as you have often mention needing to loose weight. Then you transpose it on top of my live, I don't think that's fair. I like White Women and not every White Girl is "Down For The Brown", so that limits my pool and selection. It still hasn't been proven to me that Latinas especially from South America like Black Men beyond the P4P market and that's a bit hard to tell on this forum. That is why I need to investigate South America, in Europe I already know where to be Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany. I do know some Slavic women like Black and not the type of women that DD has been running into which I assume is the model type. I've been contacted by several Slavic women on various sites but I haven't returned those messages because of my financial problems at the moment. So I know its possible to find somebody.