American Women

[Domino]

Hardbarg: Global life table are relevant as life expectancy and the definition of old is different in different parts of the world and for different classes, just as they always have been. 31.3 is the expected life expectancy in Mozambique but it is considered young on this board. The norm for humans, as for swans is monogamy.

Your last paragraph about Oprah is well written and has a witty barb against me. However, please pause and consider the cynical attitude it displays towards American women. My bottom line is continually droning on in this thread about how awful American women are helps nobody, least of all those who may have suffered at their hands.

[Hardbarg]

whilst nothing that the definition of age, like Bill Clinton's definition of sex is rather mercurial and changes with the ages

The definition of age changes with the ages? Is that like saying that it depends on what the meaning of "is" is?

Now you've moved on to complete nonsense. The only thing you've said that is pertinent, and may be true, is that you can assert anything you want. That doesn't make it so.

The bottom line is that you insist humans are "pre-programmed" to grow old with one partner. That is not only unsupported, it is contrary to the facts. For almost all of human history, it was lucky if the parents were alive long enough to get one set of kids out the door. Until the industrial revolution people simply didn't grow old in any sense of the word. Since as a species we didn't live long enough to get old, we aren't pre-programmed for any kind of old age. Neither are we programmed for monogamy, or to become swans, or any other mystical claptrap you choose to make up. Quoting off-point statistics from the CIA doesn't change that.

As for American women and Oprah, I expect her to continue to tell them that they remain oppressed, and that their oppressors are American men. The women in the audience will all nod for the camera, and they, along with all the ladies in TV land will once again be validated in their permanent resentment towards American men. All except the ones that you encounter of course.

[Domino]

Global life expectancy is, according to the CIA Factbook, Weighted Average 67.47 years http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/...tot_pop&int=-1

This, of course, does not break down for sex. In Mozambique, it is 31.3, something similar to what it may have been in Europe and White America some 200 years ago. One would also have to stabilize the variance over time and take out extraneous variables such as wars, famines and diseases past and present. Then, whilst noting that marriage itself and the nuclear family are both relatively recent byproducts of economic advance, one could still comfortably assert that most humans, like swans, are pre programmed to form one relationship with a member of the opposite sex and grow old with that person, whilst nothing that the definition of age, like Bill Clinton's definition of sex is rather mercurial and changes with the ages (which is why we would have to stablize the variance). Priests, mongers and others are exceptions to this general rule of society.
The mongers here, though they are an eclectic bunch, are not representative of society at large. For example, the sexual revolution of the 1970s was not as widespread as we were held to believe. Many did not partake in it.

Now that that is clear: let us hear it for American women and try to go at least a day without bitching the same hoary bs about them.

Bottom line: Some opinions here need to be challenged so that those who have been burned by American or other women may pick themselves up and get on with life. If you want to go to a third world country and buy love, by all means do. But don't expect Oprah Winfrey to hold you up as a role model.

[Hardbarg]

Young women are made pretty so young guys will bang them so the species will carry on into the void. Nature has programmed it so that most human couples grow old together, much like swans who are higher up the ladder of being than we are.

You've posted a bunch of debateable things here. I'll just comment on this one. Growing old together is a fairly recent phenomenon - maybe 200 years at the most. Prior to that it was lucky if either partner lived past 40. That leaves about 199,000 years of "nature's programming" exactly the opposite of your assertion. Whatever point you're trying to make, please keep your pseudo-biological facts accurate.

[Domino]

Is rhyming slang for a Yank. If you think 1st world babes are waiting for American men to fuck them, jump in a time capsule. This is 2005, not 1945. England has been off rationing for over 50 years, Germany surrendered 60 years ago, the Korean war is also over (an armistice was declared oh around 1954 or so) and all that influences attitutes. Today, you will only be seen as a check waving liberator by the wretched of the earth, by those who are dirt poor. In 1st world Japan, for example, only a very small minority of women are interested in the white trash of Asia; they are the small minority who want out of Japan's social straight jacket. Girls just wanna have fun and if you are a fun living, free psending wooden plank, your dick will get a yank.

If anyone thinks some upper class Latina will fuck them or even look at them with anything but contempt, they know nothing about society south of the Rio Grande, imho. So, by all means ***** all you like about American women. But just remember: another American, or two, is banging each and every one of them. If you are not and if they are burning you, to paraphrase the great monger, JFK, ask not what their **** can do for you but what you can do for their ****. Develop some more strings to your bow, take a few leaves out of my book and you too will be a happy, AW loving monger.

Peace and pussy to all.
"Lonely women make good lovers".

[Moore]

Civ 2000,

When I was 20 yo living in the USA I wasnt banging hookers either, you know why? Because I had no money. If you were getting fresh meat 24/7 in college in the USA, you werent the only one but I would say pertain to a segment of less than 10% of guys. Most of whom had the only kind of power you could have at that age (non-monetary) like being on the all-american football team. College is only 10 years ago for me. What are you talking about.

[Cyberdas]

When referring to American Women, I think this term also applies to those who have become "Americanized" because in essence, they're the same as those who are "natives". I say this seeing how all women (or approx. 98%) in the U.S. share the same virtues and values regardless of race, culture and creed. In this aspect there are no barriers or differences (I wish the same was true in the workplace). It's really amazing and alarming. The expectations from a Latina, Asian or European in the U.S. are the same as those of any American woman. Back in their homelands, things are different; for the most part they're not like that, but once they become "Americanized" - it all goes to waste. One rather alarming factor I noticed was how much of this "Americanization" has come into play in other countries as well. I'm not saying that it is equivalent (thank God for that) but I have noticed it more than before when I've visited South America and Mexico. Especially the big border towns of Mexico on the north where they are so close to the U.S. and by proximity would seem to have gotten "infected". This is something I would like to hear more about in this site because even though it is not as bad, similar attitudes do also exist elsewhere. Just my two cents worth!!!

[Jay Dub]

Hey Mikster,

I must say that you have truly summed it up. You are very real and you actualy hit the nail on the head multiple times.

I wish more guys had the balls to see it all for what it is. In fact, what you've said is lilke gospel, and I will review your words twice a day in the morning and in the night before I go to sleep.

Peace

[Mikster]

More power to you and its your opinion and right to voice it. I couldnt disagree with you more. Sure, there are some good ones, but who cares? We are talking in vast generalities here and in general American women are nothing like their cousins from many, many other countries. Any guy who thinks the average American women is equal to, or superior, to the other ladies of the world is a possible pussy, and idiot, or has simply given up and is living with the fact that he doesnt want, or cant get for whatever reason, anything better. More power to you again. Its your life. You can have all the American bitches and the rest of us will go and take the real women who know the real meaning of the word relationship.

American men have been pussified beyond belief, beaten down by a society that doesnt want them to behave like men, and convinces them that "sex in the city sluts" are about the best there is out there for them. You can have them. Be my guest.

As for me and most of my brethren here, we know the real truth of the American society, women in general here, and the complete foolishness to believe that these creatures calling themselves women are remotely tied to any of their past ancestors in this country.

I, for one, am amazed at the men of seattle. They carry their male "purses" around, take orders from their girlfriends, lose their friends on orders from the wives and girlfriends and have their balls in her purse. If you ever want to see the absolute epitome of what has happened to the american male one need only walk around Seattle and see the pussified idiots calling themselves men.

I dont know how to explain it better, you have to see if for yourself to believe it. The only place left in this country where men still are men is the deep south, and that is quickly evaporating as even they are feeling the heat of being a "sensitive, sweet guy." Fuck that shit. You can have it.

You may think these dikes in womens clothing are into you, but you are a fool. They are only into themselves. They fool you with their hot young looks and then go for the kill. Any man is a fool to get married to an American snobby *****. They are all bitches in my book, not worthy of my cock or my time.

No, I have not been burned. I have personally dumped all American sluts that I have dated because I am a realist and learned their game early on. I am the "asshole" that American women love, but could care less about. I pride myself on that. I used to be a nice guy with women and I ended up jacking off to Swank Magazine every night. When I turned ugly, nasty, and bad I got balled whenever I wanted. Two plus two is four baby. I can add. I know what works here and I dont like it. I am sick of it. I can be myself in other countries and not put on the facade of being an asshole and I love it.

My two cents. Take it or leave. Could care less. Thats my attitude in country, only way to get laid by hot ass. In peru, colombia, japan, I can be Mr. Nice and get all the pussy I can handle and actually have feelings. What an idea!!!!

Later boys.

Milkster the enlightened

[MeatMan]

I'm just a regular average guy. I certainly don't look like Denzel Washington and I don't have a million dollars in the bank(screw banks by the way) but I have a great personality. So naturally, no American women will acknowledge me.

I travel once in a while, I have been with hot women, hotter than I could have imagined being involved with. Their reasoning, it's simple. They liked me because I'm trustworthy, respectful and have a great sense of humor. American women don't value those things. Unless it comes in an 80,000 dollar car. Then they have all the interest in the world.

[Domino]

Young women are made pretty so young guys will bang them so the species will carry on into the void. Nature has programmed it so that most human couples grow old together, much like swans who are higher up the ladder of being than we are. There are exceptions to this general rule. Some guys, Civ2000 and Domino being two, like to bang younger women. Nature does not mind as long as most people do not follow suit.

American women know if they give away their pussy too early, they will pay big time for it. They are caught in a rapidly changing society and must protect themselves. Lots of men feel threatened by them but not by some 2 bit disposable Third World skank

When I hung around Mexico with the super rich, I used to often share a car with this young Mexican dude who used to flit up to San Diego where he would bang rich white chicks. He thought it amazing that they never even asked him his name. I didn't as I was more interesed in banging his maid.

I find white women are still attracted to me for the same reasons they have always been attracted to me. Like Frank Sinatra, as I get older, I simply modulate the notes I sing and I leave the high notes to the young guys who are all dick and no brains.

You must also remember women, much more than men, are social creatures. They like to hang around together, chat, shop, ***** etc. Look at Sex and the City type cluck cluck all together stuff. Men are more the loner type. What does this mean? It means if you are banging a younger chick, all her friends are telling her you are an old creep and thye should bail out/whack you/go on Jerry Springer/fuck Domino instead. This even happens to

John T Domino

[Moore]

OK I´ll come out of the closet. Although my mother and sister are decent and not bad for being American women, my dad and brother in law deserve and would have done 1000% better overseas (where I live). One of my female cousins is a dike (although she is great an I love her as a cousin), the other three are also great but basically nasty skanks. American women suck in every way. Sure, before leaving the US I had been with A FEW nice ones, but you can go years there between those streaks of luck. In many places in Europe and S America you are simply inundated by beautiful, sexy, educated, sweet, friendly babes 24/7. I just nailed one that I met in my internet cafe last week. It wasnt even intentional. That never happened to me in the USA.

BTW, last night I was in a pool hall and there was an American girl playing 2 tables away. She stuck out like a sore thumb due to her LOUD OBNOXIUOS VOICE, repulsive masculine appearance, attitute, clothes, gestures, gait, etc...She also was wearing those stupid thick nerd bumblebee glasses that about 80% of American women that come down here seem to wear. What is the deal with that, do they all wear those now in the USA. One thing that amazes me is that you would think that something would wear off on these US biatches when they spend time in Europe/SA all day with real women running around. But they look/act even worse! Maybe just a defense mechanism or just oblivion.

M

[Travis Bickle 2]

I, for one, don't bash American women. I love American women. Although I often agree that some are just out to take you for all you have, that doesn't remotely describe most of the women I know. I have quite a few women friends and none of them are the gold-digging, conniving types you read about here. And like I've said before, they are simply mirror images of American men.

This isn't meant to insult anyone here, but when I was twenty-years-old I did not pick up hookers. Why? Because I didn't need to. I could get all the young fresh meat I wanted. So, now that I'm approaching fifty, and still like to bang twenty-year-old girls, it does get frustrating that I can't just take them home like I used to. I could start bashing American women because one half my age won't go out with me, and say how wonderful some Chilean woman is because she will, but it doesn't change the fact.

I think if us guys were to chase the chubby fifty year old who goes to work everyday and is lonely like us, we wouldn't be bashing American women. We would find them great companions who weren't looking to break the bank. The problem with me is I just don't find them attractive (even though I'm a chubby, greying, fifty-something). I still chase the young girls and in the one in fifty times she actually wants to go out with me, quess what? She's after my money. Shock!

Bottom-line: I love American women. If I want some eighteen-year-old girl to gush over me like I'm God's gift to women: I'll hop a plane and visit Cambodia.

Civ2000

[Domino]

If American women are so awful, what should we make of American men? Can they be so totally different? I think lots of posters here have just got burned by a handfull of American women and they are bitter. Fact is, most American women are in stable relationships, often with jerks, and you canot deny that. What about your American mothers, sisters, cousins? Are they all jerks too? Maybe America's social dynamics are different from those of dirt poor countries but I would like to hear someone praise American women for achange, if only to break the monotony of this thread.

[CBGBConnisur]

I have met a lot of idiots in other countries who think that the typical American woman looks like Angelina Jolie or Jennifer Aniston. I remember this one idiot, a total loser and a bum with no job, he was Bulgarian and had a knockout good looking girlfriend who went to work while he sat on his ass. He kept talking about Jennifer A in front of his girlfriend, and I said to myself,"You *******, you got a fine woman next to you who takes your shit, even though you're a bum without a job, what makes you think you're gonna get Jennifer A???!!". There are millions of these idiots around the world who believe everything they see on TV and movies. They don't know good they have it, the same applies for Australia, most Australian dudes are total idiots.