American Women

[Jelly Donut]

The issue I have is that the government really has no right to dictate what happens between two grown consenting adults, and the LE is now targeting Americans who go overseas in places where legal sex is very legit.

So, I went searching around the internet, looking for something that would support what you are saying. I have not found anything.

Are you thinking of a specific case? If so, I would like to know what it is because I am under the impression it is not against US law to travel overseas and have sex with another adult.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/se...y=prostitution

[DJ FourMoney]

Are you referring to illegals from Mexico and Latin American countries? The US could not run without them, almost all big and small businesses need their cheap labor to operate profitably. I am annoyed with all this racism against Hispanics, heck, I think if Muslims were blonde and blue haired, many of the ones I saw in Europe are actually white, there would be no problems with them either. Many Hispanics are white too.
Regardless to that, the USA is pretty much on its way down and the tide of history is turning. Record levels of debt, a crashing dollar, a crumbling credit system that has maybe another 5 to 10 years left, China and India's continual rise to the economic frontrunners of the planet, the US will be a third world country, but regardless the illegals will be the ones blamed for it even though it has been the fault of the selfish business elites in this country.

Well that's simplisic answer in a nutshell, of course the US could run without illegals.

But of course that would change the social status of alot of people.

Then again, if you made $20 a hour flipping burgers, mim wage was $12 and adjustable with inflation, there would be no need for illegals because even McDonald's employees could afford to rock a C class or 3 series Bimmer.

I honestly think those with college degrees get too much credit but those that have been in the armed forces are generally better adjusted to others because your life depends on the person next to you, so you better put your personal biases aside quickly.

College grads develop this elitest attitude that gets their blocks knocked off in nightclubs and other social events.

Their the ones that run out and try to sue you for every penny you got when it was their mouth over running their asses that got them bopped to begin with; take your beatdown like a man!

But I digress...

These problems can be solved, the problem is rich people don't give a shiet, a least until the rioting poor people start rioting in these gated communities and Black Water won't be able to save them...

[CBGBConnisur]

Law enforcement in the US are now also going after US citizens and Permanent Residents who go overseas to purchase sex. Obviously before that they were prosecuting people who went to places like Thailand who often engage in acts with minors, this is something I find disgusting and anyone who commits an act on a minor should be locked up forever. The issue I have is that the government really has no right to dictate what happens between two grown consenting adults, and the LE is now targeting Americans who go overseas in places where legal sex is very legit. We have it bad enough with local American women and need an outlet to escape, harassing people who go overseas in search of women is just too much.

[Rock Dog]

CBGB,
that truly is the key word here. There are so many people who are "higher up" who tell us how opposed they are. But as soon as they think no one's watching.... off they go to see their favourite girls.

I've seen it so many times, where some MP or escort service gets taken down. The client lists ALWAYS include men in law enforcement, lawyers, school principals, civil service workers and all kinds of professionals.

Publicly, they say "no, no, no", but privately they all want in. And the women are, if anything, even worse than the men. So many get up on their high horse and try and dictate to us what our morals should be..... when the real reason is, they just hate having some competition.

But isn't a little competition supposed to be good for business? I guess not, especially if your business is getting guys to spend their $$$ on you.

It's nothing but hypocrisy and it's coming in fast and furious from all sides.

Rock

[CBGBConnisur]

Eliot Spitzer increased wiretapping and electronic surveillance of customers who used "discrete" escort services as AG and Governor, he also increased the maximum prison sentence from three months to one year. Now that it is a fact that he used prostitution services himself, do you think he is going to do some time? I seriously doubt it, even if his political career is over, the man is filthy rich and will probably work in the private sector. Its people like this who make me glad I do not live in the US anymore. There is a lot of dislike for Bush out there but Spitzer is complete hypocrite and largely representative of many American politicians who try to apply there morals on others.

[Bango Cheito]

back in the 90s there were some brothels in queens run by mexicans and with mostly mexican girls and everybody knew they used **** girls, which is why i never was a customer there. but there was no forced anything, those girls were 100% consenting to what they were doing, and moved about freely, lived at home, went to school etc.

[Rock Dog]

the truth is that sex slave/forced prostitution is a big business in america. of course the focus with the ins is on "brown" people.

believe it or not, it looked like they were all white girls. nobody mentioned anything about illegals or anything like that. the news story was giving the impression that they were all local girls from the same school. that's part of what made it so hard to believe.

there's been similar stories right here where i live in winnipeg. but it's always been native (indian) girls, and the person getting them involved has always been some adult.... never someone the same age.

question, how does one charge a 14 yr old girl for procuring other **** girls? i mean, she's **** herself. this is the crazy world we live in.

rock

[CBGBConnisur]

Are you referring to illegals from Mexico and Latin American countries? The US could not run without them, almost all big and small businesses need their cheap labor to operate profitably. I am annoyed with all this racism against Hispanics, heck, I think if Muslims were blonde and blue haired, many of the ones I saw in Europe are actually white, there would be no problems with them either. Many Hispanics are white too.
Regardless to that, the USA is pretty much on its way down and the tide of history is turning. Record levels of debt, a crashing dollar, a crumbling credit system that has maybe another 5 to 10 years left, China and India's continual rise to the economic frontrunners of the planet, the US will be a third world country, but regardless the illegals will be the ones blamed for it even though it has been the fault of the selfish business elites in this country.

[DJ FourMoney]

So I was watching the news today and they had a blurb about young girls involved in some prostitution ring in Texas.

This sounded interesting enough, so I waited around to hear the rest of the story. Turns out the "leader" is only supposed to be 13 or 14 years old herself! Not only that, but she was getting other girls from her school involved in working for/with(?) her.

This would have been kind of shocking even if the story was coming from some other country. But to think that this was going on in Dallas..... hard to believe!

Should give Nancy Grace something to exploit for at least the next week. Oh well.

Rock

The truth is that sex slave/forced prostitution is a big business in America. Of course the focus with the INS is on "brown" people.

Over in the Moldova thread, lots girls are getting shipped to the US for work, Ive been wondering where they have been going -

[Rock Dog]

So I was watching the news today and they had a blurb about young girls involved in some prostitution ring in Texas.

This sounded interesting enough, so I waited around to hear the rest of the story. Turns out the "leader" is only supposed to be 13 or 14 years old herself! Not only that, but she was getting other girls from her school involved in working for/with(?) her.

This would have been kind of shocking even if the story was coming from some other country. But to think that this was going on in Dallas..... hard to believe!

Should give Nancy Grace something to exploit for at least the next week. Oh well.

Rock

[DJ FourMoney]

Pretty easy to get caught these days because of wiretapping and computers. Spitzer was a putz to get involved with an escort in the first place, he busted an escort service as AG, so he kind of stuck his neck out making himself out to be some kind of moral crusader.

I have already started hearing chatter about Barack Obama, rumors that he is gay or has been a big time womanizer and dated mostly white women, the kind of stuff that would stir up the meat and potatoes of the Republican party. I don't know about any of that, but that is the way the Reps like to ruin the image of the Dems.

The USA is the world's top producer of porn, yet you can get the FBI on your ass for using an escort service, shows the moral double standard of our society.
The porn industry in the US is amazing in that it loves to recruit female porn stars of every ethnicity. The latest craze is about an Indian Canadian woman by the name of Sunny Leone. That and the collapsing Greenback have me convinced not to return to the US.

Since 9-11 the US has been monitoring the financial activities of Americans and anyone residing in the US, I recall the terrorists who flew planes into the WTC had US bank accounts.

Nevermind that most of them are LIVING and not DEAD....

9/11 was a HOAX on all levels and the truth is slowly creeping out, of course what will happen is Bush, et al will get some type of "free" pass and the country will call for moving on.

I wanna leave really, but I have no idea what I would be doing and feel I have to go where they speak English on a regular basis, that means Scandinavia really because I don't like driving on the right side of the car...lol

The guy I spoke too in Stockholm has me concerned about pulling up roots and just going someplace...

[Jelly Donut]

Some edited excerpts from the link below
According to a survey the average "price" that men and women demand to marry for money these days is $1.5 million. The survey asked: "How willing are you to marry an average-looking person that you liked, if they had money?". Two-thirds of women and half of the men said they were "very" or "extremely" willing to marry for money. The matrimonial price tag varies by gender and age. Asked how much a potential spouse would need to have to be money-marriage material, women in their 20s said $2.5 million. The going rate fell to $1.1 million for women in their 30s, and rose again to $2.2 million for women in their 40s. Men have cheaper requirements. Their asking price overall was $1.2 million, with men in their 20s asking $1 million and men in their 40s asking $1.4 million.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article...f_main_tff_top

[CBGBConnisur]

Pretty easy to get caught these days because of wiretapping and computers. Spitzer was a putz to get involved with an escort in the first place, he busted an escort service as AG, so he kind of stuck his neck out making himself out to be some kind of moral crusader.

I have already started hearing chatter about Barack Obama, rumors that he is gay or has been a big time womanizer and dated mostly white women, the kind of stuff that would stir up the meat and potatoes of the Republican party. I don't know about any of that, but that is the way the Reps like to ruin the image of the Dems.

The USA is the world's top producer of porn, yet you can get the FBI on your ass for using an escort service, shows the moral double standard of our society.
The porn industry in the US is amazing in that it loves to recruit female porn stars of every ethnicity. The latest craze is about an Indian Canadian woman by the name of Sunny Leone. That and the collapsing Greenback have me convinced not to return to the US.

Since 9-11 the US has been monitoring the financial activities of Americans and anyone residing in the US, I recall the terrorists who flew planes into the WTC had US bank accounts.

[Rock Dog]

From what I read, Spitzer was transfering money from one account to another in succession. Apparently this is similar to what criminals do when they launder money. One of the banks involved noticed the pattern of transactions and notified the FBI.

Still sounds fishy. Imagine some bank employee.... and probably all they're doing is monitoring some automatic computer program designed to look for such patterns of activity. Now an account comes up.... a quick check reveals it belongs to the governor. What would YOU do.... assume it must be some kind of criminal activity?

I think most people would assume that Spitzer wasn't likely to be a terrorist. It sounds more like they had an excuse to go snooping (and a barely reasonable one at that!), so that's what they did. Not too far off from the secret police or Gestapo when the powers that be have such a free hand to snoop around in someone's personal affairs like this.

Back in the old days, the people who made this discovery would have either stayed quiet about it because it would have been seen as Spitzer's personal affair. Or they would have used it to get themselves a promotion of some kind. Nowadays it's like yeehaw, let's go get us a guv'ner!

Rock

ps. RN thanks for the explanation from your point of view. Male ego, hmmmm, as a cheapskate I don't want to believe.... but as a male I have to admit it makes sense.

[CBGBConnisur]

I read up more on Spitzer, his Dad is a real estate developer and his father's net worth is estimated at $500 Million US, Spitzer received about $15 million from his father over the past few years, so I guess he did not use public funds. The other thing was that he had unprotected sex with the 22 year old prostitute multiple times, the prostitute herself had sex with numerous other men. Who knows maybe he passed along an STD to his wife.

The prostitute's real name is Ashley DiPietro:
http://www.exploretalent.com/model_p...entnum=898909&
She is 5'3" and is an aspiring rapper, she also has appeared in a rap video.