American Women

[Goga Fung]

one former beauty queen who is real dark skinned, stands out like a motherfucker even among all the beauties there. Her rates are among the cheapest. I just thank the Goddess I don't have any ingrained cultural prejudices and can see the forest for the trees. . But to me the phenomenon is world-wide.

May be this will sound weird for you, but there are places with quite opposite situation. If you check escort girls in Russia, you may see that black girls may ask for much more than white girls. Because it is something unusual and very exotic for those kind of places.

I also kinda get feeling that when you talk about Colombians you talk like about Bogotenos / rolos. I think Colombians in other places such as from the coast, Medellin, etc. Can be different. More tolerant to races and / or more laidback.

[Bango Cheito]

I personally think many of you guys are overestimating the effect of money on women. I'm not denying it exists, because it does and it's a powerful force. But I think now the most powerful force is sheer physical attraction, and if you can learn to work that, everything else becomes easier. I've watched a couple of my gorgeous broke-ass male friends pick up girls no problem, even have the girls pay the hotel room and buy dinner etc. They inspired me so much, I stopped using money as leverage alltogether, and instead I put that money into my own appearance. :P it's working better and better.

[Bango Cheito]

For the record, I was born and raised in Canada. Canada is the most segregated place on Earth. In Toronto, each little group of immigrants has its own little neighborhood and people don't really mix well with each other. I had a serious case of jungle fever in Toronto because I could NEVER get a dark-skinned chick and I was curious. But there was no way a black woman was going to date a white guy in Toronto. Never happen. It might work a little easier the other way around, but the girl's family is NEVER going to be cool about it. I had a Portuguese friend there who married an Ecuadoran and his family disowned him for marrying "that spic *****".

I'd say any place is easier to get laid in if you're coming in from out of town. That's always a strong factor. I use it to my advantage when I travel to various cities in Colombia.

[Bango Cheito]

I'd love to take anybody up on it, come down here to Bogota and see how well you do with the non-pros. Don't flash cash because you're a strong black brother and that "kills" anywhere. If someone would care to properly define what "killing" is we could make a bet even :P.

I personally have no problem with women of any color, I'm not picky at all. Myself I'm very very white and tend to avoid women who look too much like me with pink skin and yellow hair, but if one came knocking on my door naked I doubt I'd turn her away. So don't shoot the messenger. I'm just passing on my observations and not making value judgement.

People here in Colombia tend to equate "black" with "ugly" and in most of the rest of this part of the world it's the same. I've seen stunning black women go by and my friends don't even give her a second look. I show people here pictures of my black ex-wife and I've had people practically go into SHOCK. And it's mainly the WOMEN that react that way, not so much the men. And I know people here from every class and every walk of life. My life here takes me everywhere. Women here tell me point blank that they would never have anything sexually to do with a black man. I dunno how much of it is cultural influence or what people's sexual preferences really are.

For the record when they see pictures of my two fairly light-skinned kids, everybody says how beautiful they are. So there's a definite color-line here. In other words, if you're considered "black" in the USA and are light-skinned enough you'll do fine here.

I have a black friend, amazing drummer, in perfect shape, picks up girls in the US left right and center, but he's NEVER nailed a Colombian woman. When he told me THAT, it clicked instantly for me.

For the record, both here AND in the USA and just about anywhere else I've been mongering, the darker-skinned the woman is, the lower the value she has on the market. When I used to monger in NYC (which in the general population has quite an even balance) black girls always commanded the lowest fees, and whites were at the top of the scale, with the Asians a close second. I saw dudes happily shell out $300 to fuck a barely passable looking white chick and pass over a gorgeous black girl for $80.

Last time I was in Montreal, I went to an incall and they had a bunch of real average looking white chicks and a brown-skinned stunner (obvious choice for me, hands down). My favorite spot here in Bogota has a whole bunch of real good looking chicks of all styles, shapes and colors but they have one former beauty queen who is real dark skinned, stands out like a motherfucker even among all the beauties there. Her rates are among the cheapest. I just thank the Goddess I don't have any ingrained cultural prejudices and can see the forest for the trees. . But to me the phenomenon is world-wide.

[DirkDingy]

what advice is that? work for the same military industrial complex they do? i checked into that, kbr and others want x military. i thought about going to school to learn how to find land mines. at $15, 000 that's a non-starter.

joining the army as some others have suggested is a non-starter.

then relationship advice from two guys that are never home and for the most part have no permanent address?

i understand this site is mainly for looking for pussy. but some of you seem to think that involves everything but monogamous relationships which is false. you desire to have sex with multiple partners based on the eddie murphy "same old crackers" line. that's fine and if you want to live that lifestyle then that's for you, i don't make light or fun of it.

but you don't show me the same level of respect the other way. my ex wanted to marry me, i didn't want to marry a woman with weight problems. that was the main but not the only reason i let her go.

dj,

i think that you are confused about my profession. i do not work for the military industrial complex per se. i worked for the emerging markets division of a huge multinational consulting firm for about five years. i am not some x-jarhead slinging a weapon. i have an ivy league degree, worked on wall street after graduation, and then migrated to the consulting world. i have spent about 60% of my time in conflict zones namely because of the dearth of qualified peers willing to go, the amount of authority granted, copious vacation time, and (for what this middle class kid from so cal considers) good money; however, the remaining time i have worked on donor funded projects in eastern europe, central asia, and non middle east. 90% of the projects i work on are economic / fiscal related no matter the location. i also worked for my previous employer on projects in the us.

i have met a few people from this site and my bonafides have been firmly established.

as i have been deemed sufficiently competent and reliable by various donor agencies, i have cut the middle man out and now work for various donor agencies directly on short and medium term contracts at a rate between $550—$1100 per day plus 4 star level hotel accommodation and an extra 2k-4k a month per diem. when i was a jr. guy i spent quite a bit of my time in the 'sandbox', but now, having paid my dues, i am pickier about the locations which i work. i used to take any project offered at whatever rate offered but those days are (hopefully) in my rearview mirror.

contrary to your assertions, i do have an address-three actually- a condo in sea, an apartment share in a recent eu country in the balkans, and a 5200 sq ft house in the usa that i recently purchased. but yes, consultants do spend the bulk of their time on the road and some may consider it a drawback of the profession.

unlike you, i had little scruples about making $$ when i had little, and am still hungry for a buck now that i have a few. hell, if there is a de minimus chance of indictment, i will probably take the contract.

when i was broke, ostracized by my "freinds", and living in my mom's house with no pussy i took a job doing menial labor in iraq which was humbling to say the least, but was better than being broke with no possibility of pussy.

i do not think nor do i recall saying that $$ is the only thing that matters when attracting women; however, in materialistic cultures like our own and in poor countries where stability is paramount it is the dominant factor. nevertheless one should not focus on $$. it's an effect rather than the cause of what attracts women. what attracts women is success. that's what you lack. losers are no more popular in bangladesh than they are in oslo.

in america, where the 'reach factor' is always in play it stops many men on this board from getting what they are entitled to. if a man is successful in his career but short and not overly engaging he may have a hard time getting a woman of comparable value. aw, especially when they are young, desire a successful, handsome, and entertaining mate. even though she is a 5, she thinks she can score a 7. and that 7 thinks she deserves no less than an 8. when in reality the 5 should be with 5 and the 7 with the 7. as they got older they get wiser, but unfortunately by that time they are no longer as desirable as they once were.

in poorer countries, the women are primarily concerned with stability above all else. this is where traveling poses the most value to some on this board. money can mask 'deficiencies' in looks and personality in the developing world.

you must note that the mentality in much of the developing world is completely different than in the west.

for instance, with russian women, because of the instability of their community, they value stability above all else. it does not matter what one looks like or what one's personality is, it only matters what you one provide for her as a husband and boyfriend. these women are taught from an early age 'the prettier you are the better man you will have; the better man you have the better your life will be. ' the man is viewed primarily through the lens of a provider. that's what a man is for. to provide for his woman. if one is a good provider, as goga fung indicated, one can have many girlfriends, mistresses, and generally do shit that would earn one divorce papers in the civilized world.

because you can't provide for yourself let alone a pretty gal, you have little chance with these women.

in scandinavia, in america, most of the women can equate success with something other than a car and the area code of a home. for instance, if one is a successful artist, a materialistic american woman will think 'great, but how can that pay the bills? ' while a person who lives in a small homogenous liberal rich socialist country will think, 'great, i think his unique passion is cool'.

just as some aw erroneously conflate success with $$ you should not believe that scandinavians equate a lack of success with attractiveness.

that tuition for that landmine course i turned you onto would have been paid by the firm. but if you quit within a year of graduation-as i am sure many thinking people do-you would be liable to repay the firm for the tuition. another fellow i turned on to this job worked for a year in africa and afghanistan, claimed some bs mental disorder, and now lives of 5k a month disability in manillla.

[Golfinho]

There are more IR couples in the UK than in the US, more than double as many (27% vs 4%). I would argue the best place for black men to pick up Anglo chicks is Britain and Canada, not the US.

Need a % breakdown on which is the black and which is the white half of the inter-racial couple.

[DJ FourMoney]

Why nonsense? I believe I know what I'm talking about. I'm very well familiar with Easter Europe, know many people there. There are various attitudes (from love, non different, and to hate) towards blacks (and actually non whites in general) as I wrote before. There are also some women who do get married to black men. I know one personally from Eastern Europe who moved to USA, also had kids with a black man.

So in general DJ4M has an opportunity to meet a nice family oriented woman of the age he wants. The main issue here, as Dirk Dingy explained, the guy must be successful and be able to provide well for the new family.

Eastern European women are not as naive and desperate as they used to be 15-20 years ago.

Which is why I went back to school Goga. Can't do it on 25K a year. You can try to do it, but I rather not because to be honest low rank pussy goes with lower income earning.

Define "Successful"? Material Success? So if I'm in debt up to my eye balls (recent Loyola Grad school bill is $85K) but still manage to pay rent on a posh $3, 000 apartment near the Staple Center and drive a fancy German car, that's considered Successful?

I don't think any FSU Women is desperate even in very poor countries like Moldova or the 'Stans but there are still plenty of women to go around.

I would agree with D-Law about with one small change. There are more IR couples in the UK than in the US, more than double as many (27% vs 4%). I would argue the best place for black men to pick up Anglo chicks is Britain and Canada, not the US.

[DJ FourMoney]

Simple: You need to do whatever you need save donning a hoodie and a Saturday nite special to better yourself. You are 40 and a complete and utter failure. You are a fuking disgrace. This is a forum for men who have the means to pay for sex. You obviously do not, so do yourself a favor and get off this board. Try monster. Com or vault. The rules of the game are simple: first you get job / status, then you get the accoutrements of the status, and then you enjoy the aforementioned—including women. These are the rules of the game for life since the beginning of time.

You need to stop indulging in your fantasies of EE buxom blondes and face the fact that you are broke, uneducated, and unsuccessful which makes you desirable to NO WOMEN ON THE PLANET.

The truth hurts but so be it. The other ass clowns on this board who place pussy atop the pantheon of life are also worrisome. Traveling to poor countries where you may be considered less of a looser to permanently chase ass is also pathetic. This board is great for the 2 week a year sex tourist but to someone like yourself it's a poor man's shrink. And we all we be committing malpractice is we continue to indulge your drivel.

You will not be hired as an IT professional to work in the EU with a degree from a community college, you will likely never have a woman that can be considered even remotely desirable in ANY country, and you will likely be considered just another bum. If you were 22 or even 32 maybe not, but at 40 you have made your bed and now must sleep in it. You will not pass go and you will not collect $200.

I told your sorry ass a few years ago that you needed to take a huge risk to get out from the hole that you are in and you just continued to lurch around this board and beat off to the pictures that I posted in the photo gallery. I told you to sign up for the EOD—human bomb sniffer—course. It's good $$ and for an uneducated 40 year old like yourself it would have been a good deal for you. I even PM'the you the hiring manager's contact info and agreed to split the referral fee with you. If you had your legs blown off you would get a 500k payout and 5K a month for the rest of your life. With prosthetics nowadays you could have moved to Tajikistan and had a late 20s ethnic Russian dyev to take care of you as long as that 5k came in every month. If you would have died in a bomb blast neither you nor the world would be much. And at least you would have died serving your country.

I don't fault you for being a pernnial looser; I fault you for not doing anything concretely to better yourself.

So not following your advice I've become a looser? Interesting. I didn't want to be in the sandbox. What your doing is what I call gaming the system. So you found a way to make money, travel at random, screw all types of women and don't have a permanent address.

I do use P4P as I prefer not to go sexless. That's perfectly acceptable here and I've never gotten a PM from Jackson saying I don't belong here.

I'v never beat off to pictures you have posted, now that's funny. I only beat off to moving pictures you haven't posted any of those.

[DJ FourMoney]

I agree, IT now is really hard field. In addition to outsourcing Indians, there are also lots of talented young IT / programmers in Eastern Europe. How a non college graduate beginner programmer in his 40s could compete with them I have no idea. Of course anything is possible, but it seems to be a hard way.

If I were D. J. I would go into an own online business. Of course there is a lot of competition too, but it is very realistic to make some money. You could also do import / export biz. For example you can send stuff from USA to other countries and profit. I do not see a problem to make $1000 or even $2000 or more per month, which can be good money in some countries where average salary is $300-$500.

I don't think I want my own business, I've been a DJ since high school I'm too lazy to promote myself and owning a service oriented business means finding your customers. I'm not much of a self-promoter. I am task oriented, give me something to do and I'll do it as long as it doesn't insult my intelligence.

All this fear of outsourcing is ridiculous and here's why.

They are handing HB1's out like candy but even with that, there still jobs open.

It does not have to be like that.

I have a friend in FSU. He got married last fall. Now his wife is pregnant. The guy still fucks chicks like for $5-$10 in his car or the apartment I rent all the time. His sex life did not change at all after marriage.

I guess this kinda lifestyle is unacceptable or rather impossible in USA where people got to commit to only one way. Single / dating or married.

But I like the idea when you can have best of both worlds. Nice family life with a loving wife (BTW some may have several wives there) and whoring around whenever you feel like doing that. Don't all men would like this kind of lifestyle?

I have heard before that FSU Women find sex only acceptable as long as they don't embarrass the family.

[DJ FourMoney]

For the record, because the album is too motherfucking long, everyone has "failed relationships" unless they marry the first person they fuck and remain married to that person until they die period! The only other exception is if you're like That Asshole, the monger who said that he never had a girlfriend in his life, and paid for each and every piece of ass you ever got. Otherwise if you ever had a girlfriend and broke up then the relationship failed. That means pretty much everyone has failed relationships in the West.

Also, some of us have had girlfriends for longer than most marriages last. I have dated women for years that I decided to let go because they wanted marriage. In fact, the last one I let go married another guy and in less than a year the marriage came to a violent end. I think I made the right decision. I also have a very attractive college educated girl running my business and making monthly desposits into my account. I love pussy but I love it even more when it pays me. I could marry and give up strange pussy anytime I choose. However, I don't see any compelling reason for doing so.

Anyway, I'm getting what I want out of life there is no need for static. Other young cats with money like DD and Warbucks tried to give you advice on how succeed but you don't want it. So, just do you man. Live your life. I wouldn't comment on your shit.

What advice is that? Work for the same Military Industrial Complex they do? I checked into that, KBR and others want X military. I thought about going to school to learn how to find land mines. At $15, 000 that's a non-starter.

Joining the Army as some others have suggested is a non-starter.

Then relationship advice from two guys that are never home and for the most part have no permanent address?

I understand this site is mainly for looking for pussy. But some of you seem to think that involves everything but monogamous relationships which is false. You desire to have sex with multiple partners based on the Eddie Murphy "Same Old Crackers" line. That's fine and if you want to live that lifestyle then that's for you, I don't make light or fun of it.

But you don't show me the same level of respect the other way. My ex wanted to marry me, I didn't want to marry a woman with weight problems. That was the main but not the only reason I let her go.

[Sly One]

All women in general are looking for basically the same dream.

A knight in shining white armor (Attractive a definite bonus) to pick them up take them some where nice, set up camp and look after their immediate and future needs.

This holds true if they come from Beverly Hills or the Amazon.

Although I do agree there needs and expectations vary widely.

If it looks like can deliver this your are in? If not don't waste your time.

As they say in BKK. No Money, No Honey.

Its not a matter of what you need to be comfortable its a matter of the women think they need to be comfortable.

In Peru, Where I live you can get an attractive 20 yr old for $USD 50 per night (12 hours).

Sly

[Artisttyp]

The world is flat. Even BKK is damn expensive now. Tell us more about these Amazon women please.

Very true. There are a few places left IMHO where a guy on a budget can get laid.

Peruvian women from the jungle are HOTTT. There is no other way to describe it. However time after time I have fallen in love with photos of girls from piura. A city close to the border of ecuador.

All I need to see is golden brown skin and I am sold.

[Cuero99]

Peru is great for GFE. I too have fallen for peruvian women. If Lima was as cheap as it was a few years ago I would be envious of anybody living there. These days are different. It's gotten too pricey to go out on GFE dates and the pfp IMHO has not gotten better in years. Actually it's gotten worse. Places have closed and those that were affordable are now accepting credit cards.

Unfortunately President Garcia is an inflationist and Peru has been purchasing $ to keep up with Bernanke and the US money printers, keeping the $ to soles stuck at 2. 75 despite the ongoing dollar devaluation. And no need for it there, Peru long-term would be better off with a more sustainable 3 or 4% growth rate instead the current 8% or so that creates risk of a bigger bust eventually.

[Goga Fung]

i mean what race/ethnicity am i viewed as by your peeps?

i did not ask them, i'd guess african-american.

[Cuero99]

More amazonas. Tarapoto Peru. These women are like the best brasilianas, built for sex, thighs and asses to die for and nice faces to boot. I'd like to check out an event at this place when I visit, my knowledge is still limited but certainly there have got to be some very satisfied upper-crust local businessmen in that city:

http://macumbalatingrill.com/galeria...?g2_itemId=408