American Women

[DJ FourMoney]

My heart always pains when I hear stories of young women being knocked up and abandoned by men. In these cultures they will never find a decent man as no man's mom will allow him to marry a woman with a child. She's 22 and will be denied a normal life with a normal man. The influence of the Catholic Church prevents the smart course of action from being taken.

This is an ideal opportunity for you though!

Some of my best mistresses have been 22-26 yo single moms. She will be highly appreciative of the stability which you can provide, and, for the next few years, as long as you are nice and respectful, she will esentially do whatever you want because she will fantasize about you marrying her and whisking her away to live in Pittsburgh or whereever. If you meet her family they will also reinforce this notion.

The attached photo is of a 21 yo single mom from the FSU. She is a working model in Italy and a legit 8 on anyone's scale. When we walk through the airport in Europe she turns people's heads. I sponsor her. Her aunt hooked her up with me thinking that I would marry her and support her extended family, including the aunt, after she determined me to be a man of means. When other members of the expat community or local men try to hit on her the entire family promptly shooes them away.

It's not free and I get SMSs every so often to help with tuition, doctor's bills, rent, etc. But in exchange for this I can call her whenever and fly her to me for days of raunchy sex and partying. She even brings her HOT model friends occasionly.

I am bored in Asia and think I will call for her now.

DJ, my friend, the fruits of your so called military industrial complex. .

You know good and well I am not a hater.

I've been to Europe before, I shall return with a plan in hand.

[DJ FourMoney]

dj,

i think that you are confused about my profession. i do not work for the military industrial complex per se. i worked for the emerging markets division of a huge multinational consulting firm for about five years. i am not some x-jarhead slinging a weapon. i have an ivy league degree, worked on wall street after graduation, and then migrated to the consulting world. i have spent about 60% of my time in conflict zones namely because of the dearth of qualified peers willing to go, the amount of authority granted, copious vacation time, and (for what this middle class kid from so cal considers) good money; however, the remaining time i have worked on donor funded projects in eastern europe, central asia, and non middle east. 90% of the projects i work on are economic / fiscal related no matter the location. i also worked for my previous employer on projects in the us.

i have met a few people from this site and my bonafides have been firmly established.

as i have been deemed sufficiently competent and reliable by various donor agencies, i have cut the middle man out and now work for various donor agencies directly on short and medium term contracts at a rate between $550—$1100 per day plus 4 star level hotel accommodation and an extra 2k-4k a month per diem. when i was a jr. guy i spent quite a bit of my time in the 'sandbox', but now, having paid my dues, i am pickier about the locations which i work. i used to take any project offered at whatever rate offered but those days are (hopefully) in my rearview mirror.

contrary to your assertions, i do have an address-three actually- a condo in sea, an apartment share in a recent eu country in the balkans, and a 5200 sq ft house in the usa that i recently purchased. but yes, consultants do spend the bulk of their time on the road and some may consider it a drawback of the profession.

unlike you, i had little scruples about making $$ when i had little, and am still hungry for a buck now that i have a few. hell, if there is a de minimus chance of indictment, i will probably take the contract.

when i was broke, ostracized by my "freinds", and living in my mom's house with no pussy i took a job doing menial labor in iraq which was humbling to say the least, but was better than being broke with no possibility of pussy.

i do not think nor do i recall saying that $$ is the only thing that matters when attracting women; however, in materialistic cultures like our own and in poor countries where stability is paramount it is the dominant factor. nevertheless one should not focus on $$. it's an effect rather than the cause of what attracts women. what attracts women is success. that's what you lack. losers are no more popular in bangladesh than they are in oslo.

in america, where the 'reach factor' is always in play it stops many men on this board from getting what they are entitled to. if a man is successful in his career but short and not overly engaging he may have a hard time getting a woman of comparable value. aw, especially when they are young, desire a successful, handsome, and entertaining mate. even though she is a 5, she thinks she can score a 7. and that 7 thinks she deserves no less than an 8. when in reality the 5 should be with 5 and the 7 with the 7. as they got older they get wiser, but unfortunately by that time they are no longer as desirable as they once were.

in poorer countries, the women are primarily concerned with stability above all else. this is where traveling poses the most value to some on this board. money can mask 'deficiencies' in looks and personality in the developing world.

you must note that the mentality in much of the developing world is completely different than in the west.

for instance, with russian women, because of the instability of their community, they value stability above all else. it does not matter what one looks like or what one's personality is, it only matters what you one provide for her as a husband and boyfriend. these women are taught from an early age 'the prettier you are the better man you will have; the better man you have the better your life will be. ' the man is viewed primarily through the lens of a provider. that's what a man is for. to provide for his woman. if one is a good provider, as goga fung indicated, one can have many girlfriends, mistresses, and generally do shit that would earn one divorce papers in the civilized world.

because you can't provide for yourself let alone a pretty gal, you have little chance with these women.

in scandinavia, in america, most of the women can equate success with something other than a car and the area code of a home. for instance, if one is a successful artist, a materialistic american woman will think 'great, but how can that pay the bills? ' while a person who lives in a small homogenous liberal rich socialist country will think, 'great, i think his unique passion is cool'.

just as some aw erroneously conflate success with $$ you should not believe that scandinavians equate a lack of success with attractiveness.

that tuition for that landmine course i turned you onto would have been paid by the firm. but if you quit within a year of graduation-as i am sure many thinking people do-you would be liable to repay the firm for the tuition. another fellow i turned on to this job worked for a year in africa and afghanistan, claimed some bs mental disorder, and now lives of 5k a month disability in manillla.

i did mistake you for warbucks who is a "jarhead" but he knows that. i knew from previous post, you as i come from middle class background.

as i said a made a change so i can afford a) better woman be) a family by that woman. i rid myself of what debt i did have, still have one of those stupid federal student loans to get rid of but that's all now. i am not chasing any women i am not in a economic position to do so, but what your saying assumes i'll always been in this position and will always be in this position, that is not true.

i think with it i have found something considering as much time i as i spend in front of a pc. having built my own pc's, being mechanically inclined and learning more about my data recovery, security issues, networks, etc.

i don't remember all the details about landline school but i think it was 12-15k and i don't remember any firm saying they would pick up the bill are you sure you sent me the correct information and not somebody else?

when i'm done with this, i'll see about going a bit further, but i also think i want to go to tuner school as well, yes that's automotive tuner school and one exist. i'm a complete car nut, but i can't stand getting dirty anymore so tuning is one way to stay clean and still have fun, i can do it at my own pace and my next car could be used as my promotional tool.

finally i was never about the "hustle", lying about mental disorders is not something i would do. another friend suggested that as well, i can't do it.

[DJ FourMoney]

Need a % breakdown on which is the black and which is the white half of the inter-racial couple.

I don't think its equally split both ways, I would say its bias towards Black Men being married to White Women. No information on that, the original number if from a BBC Documentary.

[DirkDingy]

Now, that is utilizing some affirmative action.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

[Bango Cheito]

I don't know man. My experience in LA is not as extensive as your's so I will defer. I will, however disagree with your assertions that women in America are ugly. I have been all over LA but the prettiest Latin girls can be found in Miami International Airport.

I find the women in Los Angeles to be hottest I have ever seen, Vegas, per capita is not bad either. Go to any college campus or a good big city club and the girls are bangin'. I used to work in Mankato, MN and found the blondes there to be gorgeous without the Cali attitude. One of the best times in my life.

I guess your mileage may vary.

Miami International Airport. I would explain that one with the "recent arrival" theory.

Back in the 90s when I first landed in NYC my friends and I would totally be scouting out the recent arrivals all the time. They weren't hard to spot, they were the women who hadn't turned fat yet and still dressed nice.

[Bango Cheito]

Tall is also generally an advantage anywhere, but me I'm 6'3" (191cm) and a lot of girls here are like 150cm (5ft) and even under. That much of a height difference scares the fuck out of them sometimes, they literally get scared of disappearing under you in missionary.

Being fat is a BIG BIG BIG faux pas here in Colombia socially. People on other forums have made note of the fact that women who apply for jobs here have to attach photos with their resume. MEN HAVE TO DO THAT TOO! This is almost like ancient Greece, being fat is like an unforgivable sin here. Women practically kill themselves to look as good as possible, and THEY EXPECT MEN TO DO THE SAME. And the more you go down the social ladder the MORE intense the body-culture is, not the other way around. For that matter gold-digging is incredibly looked down upon in Colombian culture. Most North Americans come here to bottom-feed and so are blissfully unaware of this. They have no idea what a reject from society the girl they are hanging with is, and how their dealings with her represent the OPPOSITE of accepted standards of behavior in Colombian culture.

Every millimeter of stomach that I lose here means more opportunities with women, and the ones that do come around for me treat me better as well. I have now almost 3500 people on my Facebook account and 90% are female. I can put an ugly-looking profile pic up, and connect all day on chat, and nobody will say boo to me. I put a sexy-looking profile pic, and I can connect and guaranteed within an hour some girl I don't know is either adding me as a friend or chatting me up.

The other thing is dress. Especially if you're not in perfect shape, you need to wear clothes that hide it. I have a bad habit of going around dressed like the typical denizen of the Bronx where I used to live, where the ethic is jsut throw on whatever is most comfortable. That dries up pussy like you would not believe, especially here. BUT I personally think you can get away with wearing sports clothes if you get your body in perfect shape. Otherwise you need to find clothes that give the illusion of you being in the best shape possible. The other thing is that at least here in Bogota, guys with lots of hair go over better than in other places (head hair NOT body hair!).

As for the age difference, it depends on the girl. I've had girls pushing 30 who think I'm too old for them, and others who are 17 who don't give a fuck, or even PREFER older guys. It's not a universal thing at all.

[Goga Fung]

My heart always pains when I hear stories of young women being knocked up and abandoned by men. In these cultures they will never find a decent man as no man's mom will allow him to marry a woman with a child. She's 22 and will be denied a normal life with a normal man. The influence of the Catholic Church prevents the smart course of action from being taken

On one hand you're right, of course it is sad in a way.

But if we mention the religion here, arn't they supposed to get married first, with a decent man who is approved by the parents that he can provide for the family, and only then to have sex and babies? This is how it is done in Central Asia in traditional families. I'm sure other religions have the same idea.

Instead, those girls fuck around with broke ass boyfriends, eventually get pregnant by somebody, and of course the baby's father is gone.

Now these single moms start taking advantage of gringos charging them a lot of money and requiring wearing condoms for what they used to give out for free and without condoms to local jobless motherphuckers.

All of a sudden these young mothers became smart!

So in the end we get a fair situation.

[Golfinho]

I am bored in Asia and think I will call for her now.

DJ, my friend, the fruits of your so called military industrial complex.

Now, that is utilizing some affirmative action.

[DirkDingy]

Here is an interesting case study on age and dating in Lima Peru. One of my pretty friends in Lima that I met on the beach years ago, is from a relatively poor family but a regular girl working an office job. She is now 22 and a relationship girl, her two serious boyfriends since I met her were locals, alpha-male types aged over 40. The last one got her preggers late last year and promptly dumped her. Since then she has been extra sweet to me sending me many texts and facebook messages unprompted, I think she may be looking at me as a provider in some way after she pops the kid in a couple of months. She has invited me to her house to meet her dad. I would not mind hitting it, she is a solid 8 and she didn't give it up to me before. We met several times after I had picked her up on the beach for informal dates and I always felt on the verge and if I could have gotten her back to my apartment she would have been mine, but either she was actually loyal to the bf or didn't have enough attraction to me. Her best friend is even hotter, a solid 9, if I had real serious game I'd like even more tap that.

My heart always pains when I hear stories of young women being knocked up and abandoned by men. In these cultures they will never find a decent man as no man's mom will allow him to marry a woman with a child. She's 22 and will be denied a normal life with a normal man. The influence of the Catholic Church prevents the smart course of action from being taken.

This is an ideal opportunity for you though!

Some of my best mistresses have been 22-26 yo single moms. She will be highly appreciative of the stability which you can provide, and, for the next few years, as long as you are nice and respectful, she will esentially do whatever you want because she will fantasize about you marrying her and whisking her away to live in Pittsburgh or whereever. If you meet her family they will also reinforce this notion.

The attached photo is of a 21 yo single mom from the FSU. She is a working model in Italy and a legit 8 on anyone's scale. When we walk through the airport in Europe she turns people's heads. I sponsor her. Her aunt hooked her up with me thinking that I would marry her and support her extended family, including the aunt, after she determined me to be a man of means. When other members of the expat community or local men try to hit on her the entire family promptly shooes them away.

It's not free and I get SMSs every so often to help with tuition, doctor's bills, rent, etc. But in exchange for this I can call her whenever and fly her to me for days of raunchy sex and partying. She even brings her HOT model friends occasionly.

I am bored in Asia and think I will call for her now.

DJ, my friend, the fruits of your so called military industrial complex. .

[LittleTruths]

Her best friend is even hotter, a solid 9, if I had real serious game I'd like even more tap that.

Or, I can be your wingman and do that for you; the four of us go out and when time comes for me to hit that 9 real bad I'll go "This is from Cuero99, beeyotch!" BAAAM! LOL.

Jokes apart, you guys are talking sense. Well done.

Bless

[DirkDingy]

I used to think that way too. I've seen things in my time here that made me re-think things. You see in the USA people tend to be fat, ugly and unkempt. Here they tend to be very good-looking and EXTREMELY concerned about their appearance. This isn't the plastic surgery capital of the world for nothing! That actually changes the whole sex and relationship dynamic, making people hornier on average and more willing to fuck around.

I've been observing my best friend here, who is a total horndog, drop dead gorgeous and gets laid almost daily with a different girl, often with them picking up the tab for everything. I used to think that, and that's the common wisdom about him, that he's just good for a fuck, and not long term material. That's what people SAY but. Watch the girls' actions. Many of them would MARRY the motherfucker if they had half a chance. That's the honest truth. Attraction is attraction, it doesn't have all these little compartments we think it does. It's just one big continuum.

I don't know man. My experience in LA is not as extensive as your's so I will defer. I will, however disagree with your assertions that women in America are ugly. I have been all over LA but the prettiest Latin girls can be found in Miami International Airport.

I find the women in Los Angeles to be hottest I have ever seen, Vegas, per capita is not bad either. Go to any college campus or a good big city club and the girls are bangin'. I used to work in Mankato, MN and found the blondes there to be gorgeous without the Cali attitude. One of the best times in my life.

I guess your mileage may vary.

[Cuero99]

DirkDingy, your last two posts pretty much hit the bullseye as far as I can tell. But Bango has some good points too. In my case I find the Peruvian and Colombian chicas love that I am very white and have green eyes. I can't count how many times I have heard "tus ojos son lindos" (your eyes are beautiful). And I agree that a broke-ass guy can get laid anywhere with a hot girl if he has the right style personality and look for his environment. My negatives, lack of height and athletic build and age in middle 40s don't hurt me much in LAm, but I do look much younger and can pass for 35.

Among many factors responsible for my youthful appearance is never having had a wife and kids, especially one born and bred in USA. Though I am not fat I could be somewhat and it also would not hurt too much as far as scoring unless I was truly obese and gross. But besides looking better being fit I feel better and perform better sexually.

I do think the tall and fat combination would go over better at least with some LAm women than short and fat which could be me if I ate poorly and didn't exercise. Big and tall, fat and white and middle-aged in a place like Lima is not a bad thing to be = novelty, money, status equals sexual opportunity. Incidentally gaining muscle and even better fitness which I do work on but is hard for me would be to my benefit in multiple ways. I am a slender hard-gainer who has to eat 5 or more meals a day to gain muscle no matter how much I work out.

I do feel if I was black or Chinese I am sure I would have a much harder time getting the attention of these latinas. It seems like I often at some point ask a Peruvian or Colombian date in a playful way "te gusta los chinos" (do you like the Chinese) and almost always the answer is a strong no, as in nooooooo, like disgust. That true even as there is a strong Chinese component in the Peruvian population. One can dislike such intolerance but reality is reality, laughing with the girl instead over that or just teasing her about her preferences is certainly better than giving her a lecture if you hope to score.

Colombianas of course for their part consider all Peruvians ugly and inferior. I respond to them that, no, not all of them and that the Peruvians are better in the bedroom and that gets their competitive fires going.

Here is an interesting case study on age and dating in Lima Peru. One of my pretty friends in Lima that I met on the beach years ago, is from a relatively poor family but a regular girl working an office job. She is now 22 and a relationship girl, her two serious boyfriends since I met her were locals, alpha-male types aged over 40. The last one got her preggers late last year and promptly dumped her. Since then she has been extra sweet to me sending me many texts and facebook messages unprompted, I think she may be looking at me as a provider in some way after she pops the kid in a couple of months. She has invited me to her house to meet her dad. I would not mind hitting it, she is a solid 8 and she didn't give it up to me before. We met several times after I had picked her up on the beach for informal dates and I always felt on the verge and if I could have gotten her back to my apartment she would have been mine, but either she was actually loyal to the bf or didn't have enough attraction to me. Her best friend is even hotter, a solid 9, if I had real serious game I'd like even more tap that.

[Bango Cheito]

Good looking and charming men can pick up lots of women. If one was kissed by the pretty gods then sex is easily avail. Sure, you can have a bunch of one nite stands with good looking women. However, if a woman is looking for a serious relationship she values the stability-read $$- more than the eye candy. Yes one can fuck cougurs and other women picked up from the bar if one is handsome.

I have been the fuck buddy of many oht EE women, but until they knew that I was a "serious man" they would always view me as nothing more than a fun dick and treated me accordingly. It made me very uncomfortable. Being a "serious man" in the FSU and EE is the difference between her picking up the phone when you call 24/7 and her texting you back 7/10 times that she is "very busy" or "feeling sick"

Some men may be content to be the. To each their own, but when one is a boy toy you have little power in the relationship. I hate being powerless. I have fucked many girls for free and also have sponsored a few girls and prefer the latter.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...349#post860349

In the USA, I don't think you have to be rich, good looking, or charming to get a one nite stand; you just have to go to a bar and feed a woman drinks.

I used to think that way too. I've seen things in my time here that made me re-think things. You see in the USA people tend to be fat, ugly and unkempt. Here they tend to be very good-looking and EXTREMELY concerned about their appearance. This isn't the plastic surgery capital of the world for nothing! That actually changes the whole sex and relationship dynamic, making people hornier on average and more willing to fuck around.

I've been observing my best friend here, who is a total horndog, drop dead gorgeous and gets laid almost daily with a different girl, often with them picking up the tab for everything. I used to think that, and that's the common wisdom about him, that he's just good for a fuck, and not long term material. That's what people SAY but. Watch the girls' actions. Many of them would MARRY the motherfucker if they had half a chance. That's the honest truth. Attraction is attraction, it doesn't have all these little compartments we think it does. It's just one big continuum.

[DirkDingy]

I personally think many of you guys are overestimating the effect of money on women. I'm not denying it exists, because it does and it's a powerful force. But I think now the most powerful force is sheer physical attraction, and if you can learn to work that, everything else becomes easier. I've watched a couple of my gorgeous broke-ass male friends pick up girls no problem, even have the girls pay the hotel room and buy dinner etc. They inspired me so much, I stopped using money as leverage alltogether, and instead I put that money into my own appearance. :P it's working better and better.

Good looking and charming men can pick up lots of women. If one was kissed by the pretty gods then sex is easily avail. Sure, you can have a bunch of one nite stands with good looking women. However, if a woman is looking for a serious relationship she values the stability-read $$- more than the eye candy. Yes one can fuck cougurs and other women picked up from the bar if one is handsome.

I have been the fuck buddy of many oht EE women, but until they knew that I was a "serious man" they would always view me as nothing more than a fun dick and treated me accordingly. It made me very uncomfortable. Being a "serious man" in the FSU and EE is the difference between her picking up the phone when you call 24/7 and her texting you back 7/10 times that she is "very busy" or "feeling sick"

Some men may be content to be the *****. To each their own, but when one is a boy toy you have little power in the relationship. I hate being powerless. I have fucked many girls for free and also have sponsored a few girls and prefer the latter.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...349#post860349

In the USA, I don't think you have to be rich, good looking, or charming to get a one nite stand; you just have to go to a bar and feed a woman drinks.

[Goga Fung]

I put that money into my own appearance.

Just curious, what do you mean by that?