American Women

[Golfinho]

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A story written about a thing that calls itself Kay Hymowitz is one that begs to be ignored. Enough said

[Cuero99]

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Sure, its a real phenonemon. Seems to me what has happened as the pool of desireable AW has dwindled due to american cultural factors including poor diet and feminization and equal rights in the workplace up to the managerial levels (which amounts actually to masculinization and decreased desireability of these women). Then add the increasing difficulty in new graduates in finding professional work in a crap economy, and more and more young men realize the futility of the whole thing and are giving up and retreating to their basements with WOW and porn.

These days it is a only a quite small minority of young adult AM, the general categories being the most physically fit and beautiful (the Bango Cheitos) , the most natural socials, and the most technically brilliant (young Hacker News types) , that seem to have hope of finding a place to get good rewards out life and reasonable satisfaction from the opposite sex. And also a few of inherited wealth can use their money and status to access poon but they have their own issues if they don't have other things going for them. The rest of young AM, the majority, have little hope or opportunity and either end up settling sadly for some poor quality overweight or ugly woman, or a series of short or long term but equally unfulfilling hookups with same, or otherwise largely retreat into the extended preadulthood noted above.

If I was in that situation and just didn't feel I had what it takes to lay a decent quality woman, decent to me being 6. 5 and not fat at bare minimum, and didn't know about or have the means to travel to lands of easier and better pussy, I might prefer option 2 as I've never been able to fuck obese or ugly chicks let alone consider them for serious relationships. Porn is not all bad, but perhaps for me the fact that I can enjoy the real thing from time to time makes it more enjoyable- if I was never getting laid perhaps I'd feel more resentment about the male performers than anything else that I can't be a man like him. But I have never been into computer games.

[ThatGuy865]

Colombians tend to totally take care of themselves all week, then they go out drinking and dancing all weekend. The dancing burns the calories of the alcohol, helps you get laid, and teaches you about human nature while you're at it. If you don't dance, life is REALLY passing you by in ways you can't even imagine.

By that theory blacks in america been on that game since the beginning of time. Cause blacks as we know have a reputation for being good dancers. So a good looking black from america should clean up there.

If girls here really were looking for money as option #1, then they would never give my friend the time of day, and they wouldn't look at my broke ass either, even less. Yet, the better looking I get, the more I take care of myself, the more interest I get. Money cannot buy that 100. Those kisses you get from a girl who is with you for the money are not HER kisses.

There are alot of poor guys on welfare in America screwing plenty of women. Same with trailor park dwellers. Or the poor in projects in NY. So then I guess AW arent looking for money either. Its just women of their same level of income or lower.

If you stated you were dating a lot of beautiful young wealthy women from wealthy families. Not just the occasional I dated a lawyer one time. But that you regularly easily date upper middle class to wealthy women. Then a statement. Colombian women don't see money is believeable.

As long as you have USA citizenship, I don't care how much you make in real currency. Just that citizenship makes you at minimum, middle class, if not upper middle class in every country in the WORLD.

That is the perception no matter what the reality is. And as we all know perception is reality.

A lot of guys would tell you hat what you are doing in Colombia. If you do that in the USA. You get the same quality women. That's working out to get in shape, dressing well, and doing all you can to look your best. And like you said. You'll attract women. Because there are women EVERYWHERE who like good looking and guys who take care of themselves. So they give them a try. Its the same the WORLD over.

And don't fool yourself the food in Colombia is no better. The food one eats is a choice. America has organic foods at every store.

If you want to eat healthy you can. If a person want to eat fast food they can.

Farmers in Colombia use pesticides just like anywhere else. Especially the industrial farms.

[Chocha Monger]

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[Bango Cheito]

People can't control their height nor their looks. In any case, the kind of panty snapping good lucks you refer to is relatively rare. If one is blessed to look like Matthew McCounough, Ricky Martin, or Tom Brady great. But not many of us on that board are in this category thus we must focus on what we can control.

Besides, being a dandy is difficult to do when broke. Once a man hits 30 that movie star physique requires no less than two hours a day in the gym five days a week (and not lollygagging around the gym but one hour of weights with another 30-60 minutes of HIT cardio) AND, perhaps most importantly, a diet of friggin chicken breasts and leaves with no beer.

I guess being good looking and broke is being better than being ugly and broke but being cute is not as important as other qualities are for a man.

Yes, in Colombia the girls spend all their money on looks so they can be attractive to a rich man so he will give them shit. They only have their looks to offer as they can't advance themselves through their own gumption. The poor do not control their own destiny.

RE Bottomfeeders: You are correct. Sex tourists and many other expats do fuck with lower rungs of society and many of them don't even realize it. But so what? Most of these men are thilled to stick their dick into any pussy and are quite content to screw a pretty illiterate 20 yo barrio girl. Such transactions seem to fulfill everyone's needs.

I look at the SOBs at Scott's bar at Nana and can't believe they are happy with long term relationships with bar girls.

Whatever though.

Live and Let live.

EVERYBODY controls their own destiny, no matter their socioeconomic situation, no matter which "world" they live in (I think the US is officially part of the 3rd world by now by any reasonable standard) , no matter their external circumstances. Willpower is the greatest power of all.

I moved here to Colombia at age 35, looking every bit of 40. I'm now almost 38 and look 25! Before the year is over I will look 21, without resorting to any invasive procedures, surgery etc, . Part of the problem is the food supply in the USA is utterly shot to hell, and it makes people fat and sick. There are other factors as well.

Those movie star good looks are EARNED, they don't just happen to someone. In fact, nobody looks that good without working on it. My gorgeous friend I keep referring to spends his last dime on clothes, hair etc. And I've seen him even go as far as putting foundation and eye-liner on when he goes out, not enough to really be noticed, but enough to smooth over the face and bring out the eyes a bit. And it WORKS! Can't argue with success.

Once again the problem here is the typical American mentality with that fucked up Protestant work ethic, the idea that you really need to work your ass off in order to be an acceptable member of society, and overwork to the point where it chokes off every other area of your existence is acceptable and appropriate as a lifestyle. That mentality exists here but it's not as prevalent as it is up north. Which ALSO explains why men and women are so much more attractive here. The thing is, you can be broke and survive a lot better here than there. And it WORKS.

That's the good news actually, being good looking is well within the reach of many, and even a decade or more of bad lifestyle can be undone with 6 months of applying yourself. Most people are lazy, it doesn't take much to distinguish onesself from them. Besides, Mother Nature wants ALL of us to be attractive to the opposite sex, we are the product of millions of years of successful evolution, WE are the ones who want to spit in her face and let ourselves degenerate into blobs.

Protein and "leaves". That's the diet Nature intended for us. If you really think about it why would you even want to eat some garbage out of a package if fresh natural food is available?

Colombians tend to totally take care of themselves all week, then they go out drinking and dancing all weekend. The dancing burns the calories of the alcohol, helps you get laid, and teaches you about human nature while you're at it. If you don't dance, life is REALLY passing you by in ways you can't even imagine.

If girls here really were looking for money as option #1, then they would never give my friend the time of day, and they wouldn't look at my broke ass either, even less. Yet, the better looking I get, the more I take care of myself, the more interest I get. Money cannot buy that 100. Those kisses you get from a girl who is with you for the money are not HER kisses.

[Bango Cheito]

This is slightly off topic, but if you could tell me where in NYC I can get gorgeous black chicks for $80, I would be extremely grateful. I would jump in my car and go there every week. I live in the DC area and the girls I see on Backpage and sites like that are plain ugly, with a few exceptions.

When I lived in NYC, partially thanks to this board and other places. I hooked up with the underground party scene starting in 2001. But by the time I finally more or less permanently left in 2008 it was totally dead. I'm out of the loop now and so is most of the great talent that used to work that circuit. Sorry.

[Tbird]

I saw dudes happily shell out $300 to fuck a barely passable looking white chick and pass over a gorgeous black girl for $80.

Last time I was in Montreal, I went to an incall and they had a bunch of real average looking white chicks and a brown-skinned stunner (obvious choice for me, hands down). My favorite spot here in Bogota has a whole bunch of real good looking chicks of all styles, shapes and colors but they have one former beauty queen who is real dark skinned, stands out like a motherfucker even among all the beauties there. Her rates are among the cheapest. I just thank the Goddess I don't have any ingrained cultural prejudices and can see the forest for the trees. . But to me the phenomenon is world-wide.

This is slightly off topic, but if you could tell me where in NYC I can get gorgeous black chicks for $80, I would be extremely grateful. I would jump in my car and go there every week. I live in the DC area and the girls I see on Backpage and sites like that are plain ugly, with a few exceptions.

[LittleTruths]

I hear you. It's a lot harder to work behind someone else's mess. After they get a nut busted in them and been abandoned a lot of these girls get bitter and swear to fuck over the next man that comes along. After that their sole aim is to get someone to take care of them and their roaches. They never ever really get over the dude that filled their guts because the little gift he left behind is always there to remind them. It's best to turn something out fresh off the press. It's much easier to write a new chapter on a blank page.

Amen to that. Pain seems to be more contageous than love is. When somebody receives some serious pain such as abuse, chances are that not only that that pain will hurt the person there and then, but stick inside of them and start fermenting and developing in twisted ways untill it grows and poisons the victims altogether turning them into offenders themselves. So eventually they start giving back to who's around the shit they've had to deal with themselves before. It's a legacy that breeds more and more pain as it passes from hand to hand and leads to nowhere good. Lampant example are child molesters, who as far as I've heard all (or the great majority anyways) have a past history of having been victim of the same kind of horror they inflict on their own victims. God forbid.

Bless

[Chocha Monger]

from what i have seen it is only the dullest, stupidest and most ignorant girls coming from ignorant and / or disfunctional families who end up knocked up by the cat with the boots and then have to suck it up for the rest of their lives.

i have no sympathy for none of them really.

it is that kind of girl that consistently came up telling me the most amusing inanities. e. g. one that i was having dinner with, in bolivia, she gave me some head the night before and i took her out planning to hit that thing more thoroughly after dinner, so the gal was yapping away and believe it or not she had the guts to ask whether i was going to marry her. lol. sure, by 26 if i'd married every gal who gave me head i'd have had around 200 wives already, whiskey tango foxtrot was wrong with that beeyotch?

a bit of a different story perhaps in africa, if you consider that in many countries abortion is illegal and [CodeWord123] is consistently big, but still, the level of ignorance is sky-high. with all the stories i've heard i still can't say i have ever met one single lady with a baby whose daddy wasn't around and thought of her as of a great girl.

you do your bed you sleep in it, i have no babies here and there and rightly so, why is that so? sure it isn't because i don't know how to drunkenly bust a nut into some even drunker dumbass chick's guts. lol

i hear you. it's a lot harder to work behind someone else's mess. after they get a nut busted in them and been abandoned a lot of these girls get bitter and swear to fuck over the next man that comes along. after that their sole aim is to get someone to take care of them and their roaches. they never ever really get over the dude that filled their guts because the little gift he left behind is always there to remind them. it's best to turn something out fresh off the press. it's much easier to write a new chapter on a blank page.

[LittleTruths]

yeah, i'm not really imputing fault, just commenting on the lack of opportunity these girls will have.

of course: they made a dumb decsion and now must suffer the concequences of their poor choices.

when i was 22 i made plenty of dumb decsions but they did not damn me to a particular lot in life.

sigh, daughters, may i never have one.

from what i have seen it is only the dullest, stupidest and most ignorant girls coming from ignorant and / or disfunctional families who end up knocked up by the cat with the boots and then have to suck it up for the rest of their lives.

i have no sympathy for none of them really.

it is that kind of girl that consistently came up telling me the most amusing inanities. e. g. one that i was having dinner with, in bolivia, she gave me some head the night before and i took her out planning to hit that thing more thoroughly after dinner, so the gal was yapping away and believe it or not she had the guts to ask whether i was going to marry her. lol. sure, by 26 if i'd married every gal who gave me head i'd have had around 200 wives already, whiskey tango foxtrot was wrong with that beeyotch?

a bit of a different story perhaps in africa, if you consider that in many countries abortion is illegal and [CodeWord123] is consistently big, but still, the level of ignorance is sky-high. with all the stories i've heard i still can't say i have ever met one single lady with a baby whose daddy wasn't around and thought of her as of a great girl.

you do your bed you sleep in it, i have no babies here and there and rightly so, why is that so? sure it isn't because i don't know how to drunkenly bust a nut into some even drunker dumbass chick's guts. lol

[Mr Enternational]

In my case I find the Peruvian and Colombian chicas love that I am very white and have green eyes. I can't count how many times I have heard "tus ojos son lindos" (your eyes are beautiful). And I agree that a broke-ass guy can get laid anywhere with a hot girl if he has the right style personality and look for his environment. My negatives, lack of height and athletic build and age in middle 40s don't hurt me much in LAm, but I do look much younger and can pass for 35.

LOL. I'm in Peru right now. What I always get here and Colombia is,"I love your skin. I always wanted to have a black baby." Hell I'm not even dark. And this is from non-pros. I rarely deal with pros in LA & SA. But like you say everything is style and personality. I was sitting in the airport in Tokyo a couple of days ago and a Japanese girl came up to me and asked where I got my t-shirt. It had Thai script on the front and English on the back. What kind of line was that? It's a damn t-shirt. But I rode it out. Just so happens she works at a university in Philadelphia. We exchanged info and will see each other soon.

[Cuero99]

RE Bottomfeeders: You are correct. Sex tourists and many other expats do fuck with lower rungs of society and many of them don't even realize it. But so what? Most of these men are thilled to stick their dick into any pussy and are quite content to screw a pretty illiterate 20 yo barrio girl. Such transactions seem to fulfill everyone's needs.

I look at the SOBs at Scott's bar at Nana and can't believe they are happy with long term relationships with bar girls.

Whatever though.

Live and Let live.

I know the girls that I fuck in LAm are by and large lower-tier, both the regular office girls in Lima and the prepagos and poor students in Medellin. But I don't care, they are sweet, sexy, appreciative and sometimes even make good conversation which makes for a potential keeper if her performance in the bedroom is on par. They may be financially poor, some are hard workers like my favorita and others are lazy and live purely off their female qualities and the men willing to pay for that. But in all cases of the ones that interest me, the humble beauty and natural sexuality of these women certainly make them incomparable to low strata AW (aka trailer trash).

To sum, my parameters in prospecting in LAm are: 1. How hot she is? And 2. Her potential availability and desire to have sex with me, likely with a little prodding needed ($). If a candidate is upper-middle class and attractive to boot, parameter 2 becomes much more unlikely thus I am better off focusing on lower-strata girls.

[DirkDingy]

Tall is also generally an advantage anywhere, but me I'm 6'3" (191cm) and a lot of girls here are like 150cm (5ft) and even under. That much of a height difference scares the fuck out of them sometimes, they literally get scared of disappearing under you in missionary.

Being fat is a BIG BIG BIG faux pas here in Colombia socially. People on other forums have made note of the fact that women who apply for jobs here have to attach photos with their resume. MEN HAVE TO DO THAT TOO! This is almost like ancient Greece, being fat is like an unforgivable sin here. Women practically kill themselves to look as good as possible, and THEY EXPECT MEN TO DO THE SAME. And the more you go down the social ladder the MORE intense the body-culture is, not the other way around. For that matter gold-digging is incredibly looked down upon in Colombian culture. Most North Americans come here to bottom-feed and so are blissfully unaware of this. They have no idea what a reject from society the girl they are hanging with is, and how their dealings with her represent the OPPOSITE of accepted standards of behavior in Colombian culture.

Every millimeter of stomach that I lose here means more opportunities with women, and the ones that do come around for me treat me better as well. I have now almost 3500 people on my Facebook account and 90% are female. I can put an ugly-looking profile pic up, and connect all day on chat, and nobody will say boo to me. I put a sexy-looking profile pic, and I can connect and guaranteed within an hour some girl I don't know is either adding me as a friend or chatting me up.

The other thing is dress. Especially if you're not in perfect shape, you need to wear clothes that hide it. I have a bad habit of going around dressed like the typical denizen of the Bronx where I used to live, where the ethic is jsut throw on whatever is most comfortable. That dries up pussy like you would not believe, especially here. BUT I personally think you can get away with wearing sports clothes if you get your body in perfect shape. Otherwise you need to find clothes that give the illusion of you being in the best shape possible. The other thing is that at least here in Bogota, guys with lots of hair go over better than in other places (head hair NOT body hair!).

As for the age difference, it depends on the girl. I've had girls pushing 30 who think I'm too old for them, and others who are 17 who don't give a fuck, or even PREFER older guys. It's not a universal thing at all.

People can't control their height nor their looks. In any case, the kind of panty snapping good lucks you refer to is relatively rare. If one is blessed to look like Matthew McCounough, Ricky Martin, or Tom Brady great. But not many of us on that board are in this category thus we must focus on what we can control.

Besides, being a dandy is difficult to do when broke. Once a man hits 30 that movie star physique requires no less than two hours a day in the gym five days a week (and not lollygagging around the gym but one hour of weights with another 30-60 minutes of HIT cardio) AND, perhaps most importantly, a diet of friggin chicken breasts and leaves with no beer.

I guess being good looking and broke is being better than being ugly and broke but being cute is not as important as other qualities are for a man.

Yes, in Colombia the girls spend all their money on looks so they can be attractive to a rich man so he will give them shit. They only have their looks to offer as they can't advance themselves through their own gumption. The poor do not control their own destiny.

RE Bottomfeeders: You are correct. Sex tourists and many other expats do fuck with lower rungs of society and many of them don't even realize it. But so what? Most of these men are thilled to stick their dick into any pussy and are quite content to screw a pretty illiterate 20 yo barrio girl. Such transactions seem to fulfill everyone's needs.

I look at the SOBs at Scott's bar at Nana and can't believe they are happy with long term relationships with bar girls.

Whatever though.

Live and Let live.

[DirkDingy]

On one hand you're right, of course it is sad in a way.

But if we mention the religion here, arn't they supposed to get married first, with a decent man who is approved by the parents that he can provide for the family, and only then to have sex and babies? This is how it is done in Central Asia in traditional families. I'm sure other religions have the same idea.

Instead, those girls fuck around with broke ass boyfriends, eventually get pregnant by somebody, and of course the baby's father is gone.

Now these single moms start taking advantage of gringos charging them a lot of money and requiring wearing condoms for what they used to give out for free and without condoms to local jobless motherphuckers.

All of a sudden these young mothers became smart!

So in the end we get a fair situation.

Yeah, I'm not really imputing fault, just commenting on the lack of opportunity these girls will have.

Of course: they made a dumb decsion and now must suffer the concequences of their poor choices.

When I was 22 I made plenty of dumb decsions but they did not damn me to a particular lot in life.

Sigh, daughters, may I never have one.

But really man, are there that many gringos in these places? There are more single moms than sex tourists in Colombia. And in your country, can gringos even get visas to go there? LOL.

[Cuero99]

Some of my best mistresses have been 22-26 yo single moms. She will be highly appreciative of the stability which you can provide, and, for the next few years, as long as you are nice and respectful, she will esentially do whatever you want because she will fantasize about you marrying her and whisking her away to live in Pittsburgh or whereever. If you meet her family they will also reinforce this notion.

The attached photo is of a 21 yo single mom from the FSU. She is a working model in Italy and a legit 8 on anyone's scale. When we walk through the airport in Europe she turns people's heads. I sponsor her. Her aunt hooked her up with me thinking that I would marry her and support her extended family, including the aunt, after she determined me to be a man of means. When other members of the expat community or local men try to hit on her the entire family promptly shooes them away.

It's not free and I get SMSs every so often to help with tuition, doctor's bills, rent, etc. But in exchange for this I can call her whenever and fly her to me for days of raunchy sex and partying. She even brings her HOT model friends occasionly.

I am bored in Asia and think I will call for her now.

DJ, my friend, the fruits of your so called military industrial complex. .

Very nice one, is that a popsicle? I get the sense she is quite skilled in the oral arts.

Anyway who knows what will happen with this single-mom to be, we get along nice, lots of laughs and smiles and she is one of those always positive and happy girls, but she is a little immature and I could see myself getting annoyed and tired of her quickly if I spent too much time with her.

Incidentally I turned down the latest RFM from the favorita yesterday, ROI would be getting out of balance and it was time to say no. But she digs me and was not upset about it and the relationship will continue when I return to Lima, she just had an opportunity I guess. Mom-to-be knows I am banging favorita, the women can sense anyway when you are sexually satisfied with someone so no need to say too much. As for favorita she just knows in general I'm uncommitted but I don't fill her in on details, I like to visit Colombia like I did 4 times last year and enjoy what is on offer there. It's nice that I don't have to explain myself or lie like I would if I was in a traditional relationship or closed marriage.