American Women

[DJ FourMoney]

Dj

I Never called you a loser. Amd even being socially inept doesn't make one a loser as the recent movie shows that. The creator of face book was is a self professed socially inept person. Everyone is not going to be capable of all things. You speak of these women who contact you. But thats thru internet which is a major means of communication for the socially arkward people just as the face book guy created for himself. It allows you to post without really having to approach a person. And not having to face rejection in a public setting. Like in a bar, club, where people can see you getting turned down or not. I'm sure as a DJ you got women to talk to you. Maybe even scored with a few. Under those circumstances, had you been on your game. You should of had women on demand. Not occasionally. But anytime you wanted. I was a club rat and the DJs always had babes drooling to be with them. One of my good friends was a DJ back in the Day. That was his modis operadi. He was the Dj and got numbers all night long. He used to always say" yeah I saved her life last night" because of that one song. Last night a DJ saved my life.

I say just because you strike out. Don't quit the game. Babe ruth held the record for striking out. A couple of seasons. But it didn't stop him from still swinging for the Home run. Because in the end. Its the home runs that count not the strike outs. A lot of guys who complain focus too much on the strike outs. Well we all have ran into women with bad attitudes, rejection, whatever. But if you "keep on truckin" to quote the late Eddie Kendricks. You going to hit that home run and find that woman who is "all that and a bag of chips" and not just once but you got to keep swinging or you can't hit the home run. It like you guys quit the Majors and went to the little league where you have the advantage. So yeah. You can hit a home run easier. But it aint the same game. You're not playing on a level playing field. But to each his own.

I just say DJ. You can score. I know guys in your situation and they still get women. Its all about attitude. Keep swinging DJ.

TG

It was anytime I wanted actually, I just didn't bother most of the time. As I said I'm quite selective.

But the situation has gone from bad to worst. I automatically assume that women are tight with their age limits so why bother? I desire to have children, but not with some 35 yr old woman with biological clock ticking so loud I can hear it over the boom of the bass.

Also even in nightclubs its the overabundance of Single Mothers and Obese women. If not that, its women that work soft white collar or pink collar jobs that scream they are independent which to them makes my living arrangement unacceptable.

So I don't even bother locally.

Also I don't like my chances for success its more like a crap shoot in America, if previous track record is any indication. Its likely a compromise I am not willing to live with.

Its not about swinging, I've never played the numbers game (at bats) to increase my chances (average). Now I just see no point in doing so. However, I will do it. Why? because its the lowest cost option, unless I find a woman from country on the Visa Wavier Program, some of which have Slavic women in them (Poland for example).

I'm just in a holding pattern because of economics.

[Bango Cheito]

As an example, how many times in my life have I heard a woman say "I have no idea why I fell for that man, we don't have much in common, he's not my type physically etc. HE MUST HAVE PUT A SPELL ON ME OR SOMETHING..." pure fucking horseshit... that man in question somehow is NEVER exactly in the poor house

[Bango Cheito]

this i have to agree with this for the most part americans period are hung up on age. both sexes.

but i think that is not a american thing. the countries where women have more opportunities as far as job, education. then the less likely hood of a women in her 20s will date and older man. of course there are always exceptions. you can even find them in the usa but its not the norm.

i have to admit even myself. even though i want a younger women. when i see 40 to 50 yr guys with 20 something women. i think to myself. damn you know she's taking him for his money. no real interest besides his wallet.

i can remember when i would see a old guy with a young girl i liked. i would always shoot her a line like. "when you get tired of seeing granddad, give me a call" or "when your granddad is sleeping. give me a call".

so i understand the sentiment.

i'm broke as hell and 37 and i routinely date girls half my age, including ones with good jobs or ones with family money who do not need whatever little money i scrape together but part of the difference here in colombia is the median age is a mere 27 years, there was a huge baby boom between 1987 and 1993 here, so that skews things a bit. i really don't care about age. i'll date a 16 year old or a 60 year old, it makes no difference to me, there are a lot of extremely well preserved women here 40+ or even 50+... no problem... it's just that they're not as out there and widely available. also the younger crowd here tends to share my libertine views more

one thing i will say... the world over, women talk a huge game about unconditional love and romance and a bunch of other things that are pure fucking bullshit.... chris rock said it best, no woman will tolerate a drop in lifestyle, there is no more sure relationship killer. and ultimately, there are three things that will land a woman on this planet, talking a good game (usually bullshitting her), being physically attractive (different women look for different thinkgs), and having $$$$.

if you are at the top of the game in any one of these areas you will do well with women. however, if you only talk a good game and are not outstanding in the looks or cash departments your conquests will be slower and less sure. money will attract the vast majority of women but don't expect anything resembling loyalty or fidelity from them. also, this technique requires you to keep a very high profile and this attracts a lot of people who want to separate you from your money through various means...

being extremely good-looking seems to be the most important factor to me. money is a limited resource, it will only take you so far, and making money takes time. your good looks once obtained don't really require that much maintenance, and they work right away. the only problem is that physically you will have a more limited appeal... money is more universal. but, with a strong physical attraction, you can meet a girl and that same night fuck her in the bar's bathroom. part of it is knowing your target demographic... you can't very easily score a biker chick if you go out looking all metrosexual

[Artisttyp]

Dogs = Little men on a leash.

[Vaquero]

Good thing for women, Fluffy doesn't hold a grudge over being castrated... I mean, neutered.

Similar to pets, I cringe when I see single mothers training treating their teenage daughters more as new best friends more than their actual children ---- and then preparing them unconsciously but undeniably to hate and manipulate men.

Also, though, sure, I've been to houses of ill repute, I cringe when I see parents dressing their 10-year-old daughters in miniskirts.

[ThatGuy865]

i travel all the time 35 countries. not just 4 p4p but culture i can speak spanish, i cannot find a chick to approach even to try in this sorry large urban city. and fat, stuck up, curt, snob, scenesters. i and ihave had mass aw gfriends it just changes when you get older 40. please repond to this mid life crisis of middile age straight man has no options for good pussy. and we americans are sooooo prude and age conscous, whats up with that every other country is cool 45 with a 25 gfriend no questions.

i agree from past posts too much work for little gain, my friend is killin match.com, i did well 4 years ago, but his chicks are fat and he does them? i will fuck my left hand for ever instead of a fat chick. i go to tj soon, then c.r. then s.e.asia. focus on myself get a hot 19-26 year old elsewhere, and yes i date regulars abroad tambien, a mi me gusta los dos lados de la moneda. regulares y prepagos jaajajaja

This I have to agree with this for the most part americans period are hung up on age. Both sexes.

But I think that is not a American thing. The countries where women have more opportunities as far as job, education. Then the less likely hood of a women in her 20s will date and older man. Of course there are always exceptions. You can even find them in the USA but its not the norm.

I have to admit even myself. Even though I want a younger women. When I see 40 to 50 yr guys with 20 something women. I think to myself. Damn you know she's taking him for his money. No real interest besides his wallet.

I can remember when I would see a old guy with a young girl I liked. I would always shoot her a line like. "when you get tired of seeing granddad, give me a call" or "when your granddad is sleeping. Give me a call".

So I understand the sentiment.

[Westy]

One thing that can concern me about women is if they treat their pets better than fellow human beings....

Too, too true. One of my colleagues had a list of the reasons why her dog came first (before boyfriends) in her life, culminating with "To you she's just a dog. To me, she's my furry daughter who doesn't talk back."

The "unconditional love" thing is the prize, of course. We guys get the blame because we do place conditions (like "no fat chicks"), we do talk back, and we want them to get naked and do the wild thing with us.

It's all a "terrible, horrible, unforgivable imposition," compared to the cat - just open a can of 9 Lives for Fluffy once a day and change out the kitty-litter when it gets too ripe for you, and he's content. Best of all, from the AW's perspective, is that when Fluffy snuggles up he doesn't start trying to undress her....

[Oh Ya Papi]

i travel all the time 35 countries. not just 4 p4p but culture i can speak spanish, i cannot find a chick to approach even to try in this sorry large urban city. and fat, stuck up, curt, snob, scenesters. i and ihave had mass aw gfriends it just changes when you get older 40. please repond to this mid life crisis of middile age straight man has no options for good pussy. and we americans are sooooo prude and age conscous, whats up with that every other country is cool 45 with a 25 gfriend no questions.

i agree from past posts too much work for little gain, my friend is killin match.com, i did well 4 years ago, but his chicks are fat and he does them? i will fuck my left hand for ever instead of a fat chick. i go to tj soon, then c.r. then s.e.asia. focus on myself get a hot 19-26 year old elsewhere, and yes i date regulars abroad tambien, a mi me gusta los dos lados de la moneda. regulares y prepagos jaajajaja

[Vaquero]

A few weeks back, I was at a singles event. Cheap hotel room to avoid a potential DUI, why not. I usually only drink within walking distance of home.

I'm pretty high strung, so I have a hard time just mingling. So in a big setting like that, with lots of noise, I go for the whiskey. Had a couple of rock glasses of Jameson.

The bar doors were open, and after paying 18 bucks on booze, I went to my room and got a few cans of Heineken. Chunky black girl Mormon head case was moving out of range, and for a second I talked to a very weathered New Yawker from Long Island.

Fat, yep, heavy crow lines, but I was nice to her all the same, and then I moved along. Passed by again and saw some younger dude, better looking than me, was checking her out as a possibility. I offered him a Heineken, too, what the hell.

Then the Long Island broad came over and backed her ass up into my crotch. "What do you want to do?" she asked. How about we head to my room? And it was a done deal.

But it was less than mediocre. She was fat and bush hairy. My cock kept slipping out of her. I couldn't get puss traction. "I don't usually do this," she said.

Tried to flip her doggy style, and she looked alarmed. Soon I was drunk AND tired, so I just plopped on my back and said, "Hey, just jerk me off, all right? " She didn't know how to do it, she said.

Then she was like "You want me to leave, don't you?" I said, "Naw, no worries. You can stay if you like."

"What's my name?" she asked.

"You can stay if you like."

She didn't. I awoke to a dark room with sunlight creeping through the edges of the curtains. My wallet was just where I hid it.

I felt kind of dirty after this experience. Mainly, I thought how the only thing I really wanted that night was to come.

And I realized it had been a long time since I had a relationship in which I truly cared about pleasing the woman.

And then I thought before I go to a big public party like this again, I better go to an AMP at least within a week to make sure I'm not the guy who bangs the ugly fat girl.

And this one, cringe, tried jumping on my cock without a condom. Had to stop her. "Wait a second, girl, we gotta wrap that rascal!"

[Vaquero]

One thing that can concern me about women is if they treat their pets better than fellow human beings.

I mean, I know people say dogs and cats love you unconditionally, but that's horse shit. As soon as you suffer cardiac arrest in your recliner, that cat is gonna feast on your face.

And once as I was getting ready to light a Newport in a girl's apartment, she said, "I'm sorry, I don't smoke in the apartment." Inside, I was like, yeah, but the place already smells like cat shit.

[ThatGuy865]

I wouldn't even bother but -

TG that is not even constructive criticism. You don't know anything about the guys that post here other than making assumptions. I have gone after the women I have wanted, never played a "numbers" game. I am very selective.

More often than not I was rejected. I would say some of it was the color of my skin, other times it was how I looked and I don't mean how I dressed or carried myself. I mean facial I just didn't do it for them. I don't have over-sized, flat nose, nor big lips. I look fairly good IMHO but I wouldn't call myself universally attractive.

But as I have said before, every dog has its day and every so often I get 6-7's and occasionally 8's. I was hit up by a 40 year old Flight Attendant online just last night. She looked her age, but it wasn't bad, nor was it fantastic, she's about a 7.

She contacted me, not the other way around.

I have yet to talk to a woman I couldn't communicate with, so what your saying makes no sense. Even the FSU women I have talked too can speak some English.

The premise you make it ridiculous, talking about how some of us are socially inept. Especially when I've been a DJ since I was 16 (1986) and have managed to pull a few dates and get ass from it. That was not my concentration, not one bit. I was always focused on moving the crowd. Having not set foot inside a University, I've dated College Educated Women and there is no lack of conversation or subject matter. I would say even these women aren't terribly well verse in much else than what they went to school for.

I keep responding to you but you are not listening and you don't have any useful suggestions that make any sense. You basically say "your a poor slob, looser, you're limited to those less than, because you're less than so stop complaining and make lemonade."

I want to live in whatever reality you live in because whatever it is your smoking it some really good shit.

Dj

I Never called you a loser. Amd even being socially inept doesn't make one a loser as the recent movie shows that. The creator of face book was is a self professed socially inept person. Everyone is not going to be capable of all things. You speak of these women who contact you. But thats thru internet which is a major means of communication for the socially arkward people just as the face book guy created for himself. It allows you to post without really having to approach a person. And not having to face rejection in a public setting. Like in a bar, club, where people can see you getting turned down or not. I'm sure as a DJ you got women to talk to you. Maybe even scored with a few. Under those circumstances, had you been on your game. You should of had women on demand. Not occasionally. But anytime you wanted. I was a club rat and the DJs always had babes drooling to be with them. One of my good friends was a DJ back in the Day. That was his modis operadi. He was the Dj and got numbers all night long. He used to always say" yeah I saved her life last night" because of that one song. Last night a DJ saved my life.

I say just because you strike out. Don't quit the game. Babe ruth held the record for striking out. A couple of seasons. But it didn't stop him from still swinging for the Home run. Because in the end. Its the home runs that count not the strike outs. A lot of guys who complain focus too much on the strike outs. Well we all have ran into women with bad attitudes, rejection, whatever. But if you "keep on truckin" to quote the late Eddie Kendricks. You going to hit that home run and find that woman who is "all that and a bag of chips" and not just once but you got to keep swinging or you can't hit the home run. It like you guys quit the Majors and went to the little league where you have the advantage. So yeah. You can hit a home run easier. But it aint the same game. You're not playing on a level playing field. But to each his own.

I just say DJ. You can score. I know guys in your situation and they still get women. Its all about attitude. Keep swinging DJ.

TG

[DJ FourMoney]

I wouldn't even bother but -

TG that is not even constructive criticism. You don't know anything about the guys that post here other than making assumptions. I have gone after the women I have wanted, never played a "numbers" game. I am very selective.

More often than not I was rejected. I would say some of it was the color of my skin, other times it was how I looked and I don't mean how I dressed or carried myself. I mean facial I just didn't do it for them. I don't have over-sized, flat nose, nor big lips. I look fairly good IMHO but I wouldn't call myself universally attractive.

But as I have said before, every dog has its day and every so often I get 6-7's and occasionally 8's. I was hit up by a 40 year old Flight Attendant online just last night. She looked her age, but it wasn't bad, nor was it fantastic, she's about a 7.

She contacted me, not the other way around.

I have yet to talk to a woman I couldn't communicate with, so what your saying makes no sense. Even the FSU women I have talked too can speak some English.

The premise you make it ridiculous, talking about how some of us are socially inept. Especially when I've been a DJ since I was 16 (1986) and have managed to pull a few dates and get ass from it. That was not my concentration, not one bit. I was always focused on moving the crowd. Having not set foot inside a University, I've dated College Educated Women and there is no lack of conversation or subject matter. I would say even these women aren't terribly well verse in much else than what they went to school for.

I keep responding to you but you are not listening and you don't have any useful suggestions that make any sense. You basically say "your a poor slob, looser, you're limited to those less than, because you're less than so stop complaining and make lemonade."

I want to live in whatever reality you live in because whatever it is your smoking it some really good shit.

[Mike12]

Do you mean actual lesbian duos, or girls who are obviously straight pretending to get it on with other girls? 'Coz if you're talking about actual lesbians (or bi-girls in same sex relationships)...I doubt they give much thought to the men around them when they're pashing the woman they love! Lesbians kiss other women because they're lesbians, not because they're cockteases...

I mean intentionally playing games with men out of scorn, disrespect, and A "hey look what I have and you can never get attitude". Some recent examples are when I was sitting at a light and two blondes pull up across from me and get my attention, then start kissing like they have some sort of enraptured audience. As soon as they turned I knew what they were gonna do and picked up my phone to look at that instead. I dont play those games. Whats next - should I jump through a hoop and bark?

Recently I was in a bodega getting a drink when some girl starts yelling help from the back. I looked at the drinks and checked out the commotion and it was a La Raza type with a hoodie, baggy jeans, and bandana over dreads pushing up on this really nice looking young high-school girl to the point of forced touching. When me and the store employee got close they started laughing and ran off and the gangster dude was really a female.

I really think alot of these girls have their heads messed up because of whats on TV now. They probably are not even gay, just acting out because MTV portrays it as cool. MTV has a new channel now that exclusively targets the young generation these days.

[Rubber Nursey]

Westy and DJ: Oh, well that makes much more sense! I originally thought that's what you guys meant, but then I started to wonder...

I agree with what Artisttyp said and I've definitely seen that sort of behaviour before, but I think that's quite different to intentionally making men feel like losers, or that they're "missing out" on some prime lesbian booty.

I'm really sad that you feel that was about women, Westy - and, worse, that they've made you feel that way about yourself. FWIW, I think you sound lovely.

[Vaquero]

Well, the girls I saw kissing each other so delicately on the train, and looking into each other's 17-year-old eyes, I'm sure they did it largely for attention. After all, it was rush hour, and people had no choice but to see.

Now, these two girls were very attractive. And since it's more socially acceptable or appealing for two women to smooch on the train than two guys, girls can feel more comfortable fucking around doing it.

That's not saying these girls were threatening anyone's sexuality. I'd say they were doing it for the same reason teenagers create their own whacky fashion, or curse loudly or say "Oh, my God!" or present themselves on prom night as the funniest, most clever human beings at IHOP, or grow their hair long as I did as a teenager and then complained of presumed persecution.

Kids love attention.

I don't mind them or grown women being gay, unless they trick me out of dinner and drinks before disclosure.

Of course, if I saw two dudes with mustaches tickling each others' tonsils, I'd be fucking grossed out.