American Women

[Clandestine782]

There are MILLIONS that voluntarily leave dude. MILLIONS. Immigration is very cyclical. A very big portion of my friends here in Bogota have spent significant time in the US or other countries and came back VOLUNTARILY.

I also know a lot of latinos who want to go back to their countries but they are trapped by debt and other reasons and are MISERABLE. I could honestly say that out of thousands I know in NYC I could count on my hand the ones who wouldn't go back given half a chance.

My personal opinion, if they are telling you that they prefer the US it's probably because they don't want to offend you.

Sigh...... Can you convince as many as you know to leave and not come back? If they plan to leave the USA and are trapped by debt, to whom do they owe the money? If it's someone in the United States, then they could just leave and duck out on the debt. Or do these examples even exist anywhere except in your head?

If you want to get a bit more technical: Everyone knows that some people come in and some people go out but the point is that the NET difference is positive. (The same idea is behind the reasoning that if the population in some country is growing then the number of people that are being born are exceeding the number that are dying such that the population is increasing at the rate.) So if South Americans are trying to extend their country into the United States, then they are leaving in smaller numbers than are entering such that the net balance is positive. So, just because you can come up with a few examples of people that say that that they want to go, that is not enough to explain the excess of people that *still are* in the country.

Look up the word (that I have used on here many times): "Availability Bias."

I know that a lot of university students (past and present) are always looking at something about which to be inflamed (to feed their sense of crisis). But there may not be an issue at all here.

[Goga Fung]

There are MILLIONS that voluntarily leave dude. MILLIONS. Immigration is very cyclical. A very big portion of my friends here in Bogota have spent significant time in the US or other countries and came back VOLUNTARILY.

I also know a lot of latinos who want to go back to their countries but they are trapped by debt and other reasons and are MISERABLE. I could honestly say that out of thousands I know in NYC I could count on my hand the ones who wouldn't go back given half a chance.

My personal opinion, if they are telling you that they prefer the US it's probably because they don't want to offend you.

I just thought about three Latin friends I have and all of them are crying to go back to their countries(Colombia, Equador, PuertoRico). But all of them are stuck in USA with wives, kids, child support and mortgages.

They cant even go there on vacations anymore, since they would have to take their wives and kids, so they cant afford it economically and their American wives would not let them even look at other women.

One Latin friend used to have an American GF. One day he was going to his home country for one month. when he entered the plane he saw there his GF. He was really pissed, his vacation was screwed.

On the other hand my impression is that many Latin girls do not miss their home countries as much as men do. Although in Colombia I still have met a number of women who had lived in USA for several years and they went back to Colombia where they feel happier than in USA.

[Bango Cheito]

There are MILLIONS that voluntarily leave dude. MILLIONS. Immigration is very cyclical. A very big portion of my friends here in Bogota have spent significant time in the US or other countries and came back VOLUNTARILY.

I also know a lot of latinos who want to go back to their countries but they are trapped by debt and other reasons and are MISERABLE. I could honestly say that out of thousands I know in NYC I could count on my hand the ones who wouldn't go back given half a chance.

My personal opinion, if they are telling you that they prefer the US it's probably because they don't want to offend you.

Again you assume quite a bit. I have many latino friends. I have lived among latinos my entire life. I have latino neighboors. Are there some who get disgusted with america. Sure but more love it then leave it. And there are still plenty breakin risking their lives to get here everyday. Hundreds daily. You can probably count the number on your hands that voluntarily leave. Sure they come for the money. But once they get here. They stay. They realize the opportunities, while it might be dangerous in parts it much safer than their countries, and they soon assiimulate and enjoy the fruits of America.

[Rubber Nursey]

The nationality, location, and race of posters is irrelevant. The heading of this thread is curiously called "American Women". If you're so bored with what you deem to be repetitive postings, then I suggest you find another thread rather than hijack this one with off-topic politics, descriptions of the culture and way of life of various European countries, immigration policies in South America, Brazilians of Japanese ancestry, which women make the best LTR/STR etc. There are in fact threads for these things. Use them in good health.

I didn't hijack the thread...I just gave two (very brief) answers to questions about Australia. And I didn't say that I was bored reading repetitive posts. I said that people might be bored with writing them. Why be so protective of the "b*tch about American women" thread, when conversation is flowing and posters are obviously getting something out of the current discussion?

[Mike12]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...yxooWT6e0r47DI



You know NYC is is a sexual Siberia when top R&B singer D'Angelo has to pay for sex on a Saturday night and gets caught in a police sting.

[Yogin]

The nationality, location, and race of posters is irrelevant. The heading of this thread is curiously called "American Women". If you're so bored with what you deem to be repetitive postings, then I suggest you find another thread rather than hijack this one with off-topic politics, descriptions of the culture and way of life of various European countries, immigration policies in South America, Brazilians of Japanese ancestry, which women make the best LTR/STR etc. There are in fact threads for these things. Use them in good health.

[Rubber Nursey]

What does racism in, (fill in the country of choice), have to do with American women. We have gotten off the topic.

Because there's only a limited number of times you can moan about fat arses and money-grubbing before it becomes as boring as batshit? And because at least a third of these posters are not American, another third are ex-pats and a significant number are not white. Knowledge of immigration policy and local racism is important to people wanting to travel/move to other countries to FIND WOMEN.

[Viva Chicas]

What does racism in, (fill in the country of choice), have to do with American women. We have gotten off the topic.

[Jon32]

20 years ago there were just a few thousand 3rd world immigrants in eec. now there are millions thanks to eec politicians and the red cross allowing the open door policy for almost any 3rd world person to enter and obtain permanent residency. most of euro land has become a suburb of addis ababa, beirut, istanbul, islamabad, baghdad etc. unfortunately many were and still are committing crimes, killings f.ex. their own daughters for family honor, their own son in-laws (first castration, then beheading), circumcising their daughters, salman rushdie life threatened, killing of a dutch film maker (family of van gogh) knived to death on the street by a muslim riding a moped. he exposed the insanities against muslim women. boys gang [CodeWord125] teenage girls and more.

i told my danish friends denmark will cease to exist in 30-50 yrs. with a re-naming to denmarkistan. it is their ultimate goal to overtake the european continent. they have already infiltrated much of society. many are law bidding citizens but many are tribal low class, uneducated, not interested to learn a second language. they meet to listen to anti-western life style, militant clerics provoking violence. not all, but a high percentage do.

some of you living in the u.s.a. do not notice them in your daily life because they try to blend in with clothing, especially men in some areas. if you travel to any european city, you will notice them within a few minutes in the airport’s terminal. some euro neighborhoods have been completely overtaken; you’ll think you were in the middle east. i'm sure that's also true in n.y. and elsewhere.

this is off topic of am, but some recent statements by members require correction from my experiences in europe, colombia, brazil and morocco.

btw, pakistani-danish girls are hot in their one colored robes down to their ankles wearing open toe stilleto heels. can you believe their religion. fully covered but footwear can be as sexy as desired. caution approaching these girls as her brothers, uncles, father and all male family members can provide you with a one way ticket to a destination you never requested.

damn that's fucking nuts. will be crazy to see what happens when we're outnumbered.

[ThatGuy865]

You may speak a few words of Spanish, but try actually making friends with Spanish speakers in your home town, and GAIN THEIR TRUST; THEN ask them what they think of your "paradise" country. They will tell you about problems with the police, the shit food, the total lack of social integration, the lousy education system etc. They will almost TO A PERSON tell you they wish they were back in their home country.

50% of all immigrants that land in the USA actually DO go back in 5 years or less. The necessity of dodging the odd bullet or the risk of losing your cellphone to pickpockets notwithstanding.

Again you assume quite a bit. I have many latino friends. I have lived among latinos my entire life. I have latino neighboors. Are there some who get disgusted with america. Sure but more love it then leave it. And there are still plenty breakin risking their lives to get here everyday. Hundreds daily. You can probably count the number on your hands that voluntarily leave. Sure they come for the money. But once they get here. They stay. They realize the opportunities, while it might be dangerous in parts it much safer than their countries, and they soon assiimulate and enjoy the fruits of America.

[ThatGuy865]

When you look at Obama, degrees from 2 Ivy League universities, went to a very elite private school in Hawaii. Raised by a white mother and grandparents, do you really think he has much in common with most African Americans? Its also a well known fact that Obama was mostly dating white women before he met his wife. My mate in Sydney who is African American even thought this about Obama, he thought Obama was largely some kind of front for the NWO after 8 years of Bush.

So what you're saying is that there are no educated African Americans in america. If he was dating white women its because thats whats most available in a white Ivory league school. He certainly hung around Blacks when he left those Ivory league schools and went to Chicago. So HE must have felt like he belonged with that community. He could have easily go jobs at Elite law firms. No he worked as a civil rights lawyer. Helping BLACK people. Also as a community organizer helping BLACK people. You and your friend are over in Australia. And only saw what the news wanted you to C. But the African American community of America knew of Obama and his work in Chicago. A black man dating white women doesn't mean he can't be an Advocate for Black people. There are quite a few you fall into that category some who have even married White women but still champion Black causes. Julian Bond. Head of the NAACP was married to a white woman.

[DJ FourMoney]

Have to agree with NYC here. I also have lived in both places (america/europe). Lived in the carribean also where some islands are almost all black.

Just check out the news of what's going on in Switzerland with the Muslims. Look at the neo-nazi's in Germany & Austria. Africans in Spain and Italy are the bottom of the bottom. The spanish are racist towards the immigrants from south america. People I know in Portugal think everyone from Brazil is a puta. There's a hell of a lot more integration in USA then here.

Living somewhere and visiting or reading about it are two totally different things. You mention just about every country in the world, yeah there's racism everywhere.

I can go on a vacation in Cuba for a week, stay in a 5star hotel on a beautiful beach with great food. Never seeing the rest of the island and know that people can only use water at certain times the government allows them or see people leaving in extreme poverty. Then I can go back home and say "Wow, Cuba was great! Seemed like a great country to me!"

Yep especially about the Neo-Nazi's in Germany and Austria, however Germany (not sure about Austria) has basically a zero tolerance policy about Neo-Nazi's and come down on them like a ton of bricks.

The Swiss are basically having the same discussion The Netherlands are about Burkas and such. This non-sense about the food and Muslim women only Gyms is a bit over the top, but hey if they wanna allow it....

There are certain levels of racism in very country. But as my boy Sam Smith says "Black Men Catch Hell In The United States" and if you look at any social or economic data he's right and to add insult to injury Black Women like to blame us for everything that's wrong in the Black Community.

As KRS-One once said "So In The Fuck Am I Suppose To Do?"

[DJ FourMoney]

DJ sounds unhappy in America from his post but does not realize only North of the border he has a different world that would await him. Canada is like America minus the bullshit.

Of course I know about Canada, I've been to Canada, have I mention strip clubs in Canada?

I'm looking at ALL my options and I would tend to agree with you.

Vancouver would be my top choice, and Canada is not Utopia either, they tend to treat the "have nots" a bit better but there are some housing issues in Vancouver - http://www.democracynow.org/2010/2/1...johal_condemns

Its all jumbled now, I'll know more March 11th and I'll know even more before the summertime about which direction I end up going.

[Nyc Expat]

i going to bet big money that australia will become a colony of china in another 20 years,

20 years ago there were just a few thousand 3rd world immigrants in eec. now there are millions thanks to eec politicians and the red cross allowing the open door policy for almost any 3rd world person to enter and obtain permanent residency. most of euro land has become a suburb of addis ababa, beirut, istanbul, islamabad, baghdad etc. unfortunately many were and still are committing crimes, killings f.ex. their own daughters for family honor, their own son in-laws (first castration, then beheading), circumcising their daughters, salman rushdie life threatened, killing of a dutch film maker (family of van gogh) knived to death on the street by a muslim riding a moped. he exposed the insanities against muslim women. boys gang [CodeWord125] teenage girls and more.

i told my danish friends denmark will cease to exist in 30-50 yrs. with a re-naming to denmarkistan. it is their ultimate goal to overtake the european continent. they have already infiltrated much of society. many are law bidding citizens but many are tribal low class, uneducated, not interested to learn a second language. they meet to listen to anti-western life style, militant clerics provoking violence. not all, but a high percentage do.

some of you living in the u.s.a. do not notice them in your daily life because they try to blend in with clothing, especially men in some areas. if you travel to any european city, you will notice them within a few minutes in the airport’s terminal. some euro neighborhoods have been completely overtaken; you’ll think you were in the middle east. i'm sure that's also true in n.y. and elsewhere.

this is off topic of am, but some recent statements by members require correction from my experiences in europe, colombia, brazil and morocco.

btw, pakistani-danish girls are hot in their one colored robes down to their ankles wearing open toe stilleto heels. can you believe their religion. fully covered but footwear can be as sexy as desired. caution approaching these girls as her brothers, uncles, father and all male family members can provide you with a one way ticket to a destination you never requested.

[Goga Fung]

****Quote:Originally Posted by Goga Fung
How do you know what everybody thinks? People come to america mostly because of the belief and Hollywood propaganda they can earn money and the power of the dollar. If dollar collapses (I hope not) nobody will give a shit about America. Also since so many "shitty" jobs available, many losers come to america since they can't make it at home. Also ugly girls who can't compete at home feel in america much better.
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Man the best of the best around the world come to america. Because until you've made it in America. You really haven't made it. Period. Gong Fung sounds like you're Chinese, look at Gong Li. Even with a billion Chinese. She wanted to make it in Hollywood. Same as Jackie Chan. Europe's best where do they go to make it. Aussie's Mel Gibson. Crocdille dundee dude. Singers. Because Its the shit, so if they are coming. All the beautiful woman who Think they are going to make it come too. YOUR beauties come to LA and NY thinking they going to make it. And who do you think gets that potane. Thats right AM like me.

What have not made I in America? If its about money, then I made way more than average American. But I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about the majority including millions of immigrants who have shitty jobs, live in shithole ghettos and/or who receive welfare. Many of them love America because they get free stuff here which is not available for them at home.

You mentioned some celebrtities, but it's only few people who can make it.
Do you know that in other countries people also make money. For example Roman Abramovich, etc.. They made it(billions $) in Russia. Does it mean now you want to move to Russia?

>>Gong Fung sounds like you're Chinese

Wow, that's interesting, never been to china, don't have any relatives from there, and don't know a word in chinese