American Women

[Helpmann]

Put your money where your mouth is. We can debate (or fight) about quality of life issues and indexes around the globe. One of the most telling and easiest questions to ask someone is where do they keep their money. Do ex-pats keep most of their money in dollar, euro, or yen dominated short and long-term assets or do they keep most of their money (whether it's baht, pesos, or real) in their "newly adopted" country?

-Helpmann

[Bango Cheito]

There is no country in central Asia that has a life style of the US. You may be able to get a nice house. But you still have to deal witrh the infrastructure of the place. The lack there of. Medical conditions. Food. A whole host of issues. If you have to live in bum fuck backwoods somewhere. Just to have what you consider a good woman. Then you are set. You will have a good life and won't have to worry about your haven being spoiled. The mere fact you won't name this haven of yours. Leaves me to believe its a dump the average westerner wouldn't want to live at anyway. There are people happy in prison. That doesn't make it a great place to go.

The USA is practically the poster boy nation for LACK of infrastructure worldwide actually. More than half the country, you can't drink the water that comes out of the tap. The national train network is a joke. Public transit in all but a few cities is a complete waste. Education is quite possibly the lowest standards in the WHOLE WORLD, as is the quality of the food supply. And 50 million people without even BASIC access to health care. I don't think you could possibly pay me enough to move back after two years in SUPPOSEDLY "third-world" Bogota...

[Goga Fung]

Appalachian Mountains as well, rural PA/VA/NC/SC are very poor. But yeah funny enough those "Bible Belt" states have high rates of poverty and teenage child birth.

From what I have seen every US city has really fucked up areas. Just look in google for Detroit slams. Almost no different from Rio favelas. But if consider people quality(education , culture and women), Eastern European slams are much better than USA slams.

[DJ FourMoney]

If you really want to see third world living conditions in America try visiting parts of rural Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina, you'll be shocked.

Appalachian Mountains as well, rural PA/VA/NC/SC are very poor. But yeah funny enough those "Bible Belt" states have high rates of poverty and teenage child birth.

[Goga Fung]

There is no country in central Asia that has a life style of the US. You may be able to get a nice house. But you still have to deal witrh the infrastructure of the place. The lack there of. Medical conditions. Food. A whole host of issues. If you have to live in bum fuck backwoods somewhere. Just to have what you consider a good woman. Then you are set. You will have a good life and won't have to worry about your haven being spoiled. The mere fact you won't name this haven of yours. Leaves me to believe its a dump the average westerner wouldn't want to live at anyway. There are people happy in prison. That doesn't make it a great place to go.

Haha, have you been there? Looks like have not. So you have no idea what you are talking about. What 90% Americans can only dream of is available there. I see nothing wrong to be in a beautiful city, clean streets, safety, nice architecture, history, beautiful women, museums, theaters, low prices, cheap transportation, nice food, etc. Average American will never ever have this in USA. They can only chug cheap crap called beer and watch TV. Sorry about that.

[Capt Ajax]

There is no country in central Asia that has a life style of the US. You may be able to get a nice house. But you still have to deal witrh the infrastructure of the place. The lack there of. Medical conditions. Food. A whole host of issues.

If you really want to see third world living conditions in America try visiting parts of rural Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina, you'll be shocked.

[ThatGuy865]

I guess I was not clear enough that you mostly missed my point.

Easy women? Of course plenty of available women, but if you read Central Asia threads, it is not that easy, compared to other places. It is definitely not a mongering place. If one wants just easy sex they better go to SA, SEA, Europe.

I was talking about the values, family traditions and non feminist culture. With some money you can have the life style as in USA or even much better, plus social life is 1000% better. That's the difference.

And the fact is that not many people want to go there is actually the advantage. The place is not screwed up so much yet as Europe, South America and Asia. Those few American who manage to be there are extremely happy. It is far, expensive to get there, visa problems etc... So its good for the few.

There is no country in central Asia that has a life style of the US. You may be able to get a nice house. But you still have to deal witrh the infrastructure of the place. The lack there of. Medical conditions. Food. A whole host of issues. If you have to live in bum fuck backwoods somewhere. Just to have what you consider a good woman. Then you are set. You will have a good life and won't have to worry about your haven being spoiled. The mere fact you won't name this haven of yours. Leaves me to believe its a dump the average westerner wouldn't want to live at anyway. There are people happy in prison. That doesn't make it a great place to go.

[Goga Fung]

The big flaw to your whole argument is Central Asia. Who the hell wants to live there just for easy women. Also the language barrier, customs. A whole host of issues.

I guess I was not clear enough that you mostly missed my point.

Easy women? Of course plenty of available women, but if you read Central Asia threads, it is not that easy, compared to other places. It is definitely not a mongering place. If one wants just easy sex they better go to SA, SEA, Europe.

I was talking about the values, family traditions and non feminist culture. With some money you can have the life style as in USA or even much better, plus social life is 1000% better. That's the difference.

And the fact is that not many people want to go there is actually the advantage. The place is not screwed up so much yet as Europe, South America and Asia. Those few American who manage to be there are extremely happy. It is far, expensive to get there, visa problems etc... So its good for the few.

[Goga Fung]

I agree, my assumption is that darker girls in central Asia are not popular. I believe this myself because in most cultures even in Asia "White Makes Right" and Koreans are lightening their skin believe it or not.

So yes many men could be quite a bit of mileage out of focusing on darker skinned Asian women if you like Asians.

I did not try to make a point about her skin color, it was only a description. It does not matter there. You could get the same treatment from completely white girls. It is the culture, the traditions, most girls are still family oriented and respect men. That's what I mean. At least I have seen in many cases there women are trying to save my money in contrast to many women in USA who have tried to suck money out of me as much as possible.

It is a common belief that women in USA are more independent, have good jobs, and thus money, which is true. But for some reason they are also greedier for money too.

But there's still the problem of going after forbidden fruit. You figure likely do to industry propaganda, you can "round up" your what's normally attracted too you. I say that's complete utter BS. If you can get hot women locally then there's no reason to assume you can't do it elsewhere. But if you can only get 6-7s, maybe 8's on occasion (girls that don't value looks as highly) and be more than happy.

So like most things in life moderation is the key. Don't go after the best looking chick, find the next best girl.

So far I've an opportunity to get married with at least 2 model looking chicas there. Of course they know they are beautiful but behave very modest and very quite. One has even been trying to impress me how she cooks, also cleans up her home. In USA she would have a long line of guys after her trying to impress her with their crap.

It is just different from the West. They have different standards and were brought up in a different way. You can meet a really beautiful girl who tries to impress you with her "taking care of house and cooling" skills. Also does not fuck around. I bet you do not see this stuff often in USA.

[ThatGuy865]

Just to give a different prospective on what is still available in some places. This may break many people's beliefs and expectations.

I have one girl friend. We went to a restaurant only one time. I paid about $15. She said "this is the last time we went to a restaurant, we do not want to waste money anymore".

To give a better idea, she's about 10 years younger than me, early 20s, good-looking slim, dark skin. Crazy in fucking, very similar to Brazilieras, actually looks line one. But this is in Central Asia. The only problem with her is difficult to get rid off her in order to date other girls.

First I get shocked when meeting such girls after you get used to all the bullshit you see in the West, especially in USA.

People here talk about working out, money, education, developing some theories, etc. Still there are some unbelievably nice girls who would not give a shit about this stuff. Sometimes it is much simpler than you think, do not really need to waste time for all the bullshit trying to impress the biyotches you are used to, just have to be in the right place where you find different types of girls.

The big flaw to your whole argument is Central Asia. Who the hell wants to live there just for easy women. Also the language barrier, customs. A whole host of issues.

[ThatGuy865]

The guy never wants to take the blame for making the mistake.

So this must hold true for guys who marry and then it doesn't work out to AW also. So maybe marriage is hard period.

[Azmodeus Fl]

In Asian cultures light skin is a sign of status. If you are light you are not a common worker and are considered to be rich in that you don't have to work. In my opinion I prefer the olive skin skin as they look healthier and prettier.

I agree, my assumption is that girls in central Asia are not popular. I believe this myself because in most cultures even in Asia "White Makes Right" and Koreans are lightening their skin believe it or not.

So yes many men could be quite a bit of mileage out of focusing on darker skinned Asian women if you like Asians.

In FSU its just a numbers thing. Because of the non-Visa requirement in the Ukraine, that destination is so popular with Marriage Agency Tours that they don't even bother with Russia anymore.

But there's still the problem of going after forbidden fruit. You figure likely do to industry propaganda, you can "round up" your what's normally attracted too you. I say that's complete utter BS. If you can get hot women locally then there's no reason to assume you can't do it elsewhere. But if you can only get 6-7s, maybe 8's on occasion (girls that don't value looks as highly) and be more than happy.

So like most things in life moderation is the key... Don't go after the best looking chick, find the next best girl.

[DJ FourMoney]

Just to give a different prospective on what is still available in some places. This may break many people's beliefs and expectations.

I have one girl friend. We went to a restaurant only one time. I paid about $15. She said "this is the last time we went to a restaurant, we do not want to waste money anymore".

To give a better idea, she's about 10 years younger than me, early 20s, good-looking slim, dark skin. Crazy in fucking, very similar to Brazilieras, actually looks line one. But this is in Central Asia. The only problem with her is difficult to get rid off her in order to date other girls.

First I get shocked when meeting such girls after you get used to all the bullshit you see in the West, especially in USA.

People here talk about working out, money, education, developing some theories, etc. Still there are some unbelievably nice girls who would not give a shit about this stuff. Sometimes it is much simpler than you think, do not really need to waste time for all the bullshit trying to impress the biyotches you are used to, just have to be in the right place where you find different types of girls.

I agree, my assumption is that darker girls in central Asia are not popular. I believe this myself because in most cultures even in Asia "White Makes Right" and Koreans are lightening their skin believe it or not.

So yes many men could be quite a bit of mileage out of focusing on darker skinned Asian women if you like Asians.

In FSU its just a numbers thing. Because of the non-Visa requirement in the Ukraine, that destination is so popular with Marriage Agency Tours that they don't even bother with Russia anymore.

But there's still the problem of going after forbidden fruit. You figure likely do to industry propaganda, you can "round up" your what's normally attracted too you. I say that's complete utter BS. If you can get hot women locally then there's no reason to assume you can't do it elsewhere. But if you can only get 6-7s, maybe 8's on occasion (girls that don't value looks as highly) and be more than happy.

So like most things in life moderation is the key... Don't go after the best looking chick, find the next best girl.

[Goga Fung]

[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney,

I am still keeping AW in the running only because its the least expensive upfront investment. But to be honest that's only if you find somebody local and they are bohemian in mindset. It can be just as expensive to date constantly over a 2-3 years span, in fact more expensive than to "pluck a girl out of obscurity".

Think it about it. I know its propaganda but over on the AFA web site they recently ran a show that put in perspective how expensive it can be to find a woman in the US.

Its true though, if you date 2-3 women a week at $100-200 a date, it gets really expensive really fast. If you read all the information available to you, you could sneak into South America, Asia or Eastern Europe and find somebody worthwhile and spend a whole lot less.

That's one of the things I'm working out and want to improve on from the last time. Which is instead of spending $5, 000 or so running around Europe and end up with nothing, why not a laser focus, find the right girl by using the vetting process to my advantage and end up successful.

We mentioned this earlier in this thread, the days of father's paying you to take their daughter off their hands is long over, at any level its going to be an investment unless the woman found you, which is highly unlikely.[/QUOTE]Just to give a different prospective on what is still available in some places. This may break many people's beliefs and expectations.

I have one girl friend. We went to a restaurant only one time. I paid about $15. She said "this is the last time we went to a restaurant, we do not want to waste money anymore".

To give a better idea, she's about 10 years younger than me, early 20s, good-looking slim, dark skin. Crazy in fucking, very similar to Brazilieras, actually looks line one. But this is in Central Asia. The only problem with her is difficult to get rid off her in order to date other girls.

First I get shocked when meeting such girls after you get used to all the bullshit you see in the West, especially in USA.

People here talk about working out, money, education, developing some theories, etc. Still there are some unbelievably nice girls who would not give a shit about this stuff. Sometimes it is much simpler than you think, do not really need to waste time for all the bullshit trying to impress the biyotches you are used to, just have to be in the right place where you find different types of girls.

[DJ FourMoney]

Thanks for the thoughts. I still think there is a chance with AW, as I do believe there is merit in an old Italian proverb "Wives and oxen from your own towns"

There are good girls out there and right now I think this is just an interesting experiment.

And am I really familiar with the EE market? I've fucked about 15 hookers and spent about 15 days total in Czech and 5 in Slovakia.

One of my closest friends is Russian and dates them exclusively and they are terrifying in their greed and rapaciousness. I do worry about how I could possibly unearth one who does not think an x5, restaurants every week and a huge closet are a minimum requirement.

Also, as you know, I am unemployed and though I should be getting a 3 month unemployment extension, after that the future is murky. I will prob be going back to college and I'm not sure how that will fit in with going abroad and looking for a possible wife.

Go back to school, join me! The economy is going to be crappy for at least another 5-10 years, might as well take advantage of it and go to school. That's how I see it. I also qualified for UI and while its not alot, my expenses are low which means if I'm very careful I can still travel, so can you.

I am still keeping AW in the running only because its the least expensive upfront investment. But to be honest that's only if you find somebody local and they are bohemian in mindset. It can be just as expensive to date constantly over a 2-3 years span, in fact more expensive than to "pluck a girl out of obscurity".

Think it about it. I know its propaganda but over on the AFA web site they recently ran a show that put in perspective how expensive it can be to find a woman in the US.

Its true though, if you date 2-3 women a week at $100-200 a date, it gets really expensive really fast. If you read all the information available to you, you could sneak into South America, Asia or Eastern Europe and find somebody worthwhile and spend a whole lot less.

That's one of the things I'm working out and want to improve on from the last time. Which is instead of spending $5,000 or so running around Europe and end up with nothing, why not a laser focus, find the right girl by using the vetting process to my advantage and end up successful.

We mentioned this earlier in this thread, the days of father's paying you to take their daughter off their hands is long over, at any level its going to be an investment unless the woman found you, which is highly unlikely.