American Women

[Yogin]

Your first mistake was agreeing to throw out the movies upon marriage. That set the tone & precedent. Stand your ground, bro. Tell her all men look; that's how we're programmed. Any guy who says he doesn't look at porn is a liar. As long as it doesn't interfere with your life, work, "real" sex life, etc., there's absolutely no harm in it. No compulsivity, no addiction, no problem. If she persists, give her a list of things she must change about herself. And if she's insecure about her looks vis a vis porn, tell her "So am I...I got over it...so can you. But it won't stop me from viewing porn. Please remember that when I do, it says nothing about how I see you. I'm not comparing."

Tyra = Young Skinny Oprah

[Sinanju Master]

RD, to answer those who feel that we ***** aimlessly and constantly about the underhanded tactics and double standards employed by western-IZED women, I say "Look at RD's post". If the problem is not addressed, or if it's addressed ONCE and left to fester thinking that it's SOLVED, it'll come BACK and the same people asking the stupid question: "WHY do you keep beating a dead horse?" will say "Here's a problem that must be addressed". ADDRESS IT and KEEP ON TOP OF IT!

Sorry for the rant, my Northern brother, now here's my two cents: she sees it as her god-given RIGHT to change you, NOT seeing that SHE may have some idiosyncracies that may be a pain in the ass. You probably already know this, but mark my words, IF you change FOR HER, the demands for change will NEVER STOP. The MORE you change for her, the MORE her respect for you will ERODE. A relationship is about acceptance of your partner as a whole. SHE can't have it like a god-damned buffet where she can fucking pick and choose to her liking. IF the tables were turned and you demanded that SHE change, she'd accuse you of being a controlling, knuckle-dragging Neanderthal. However, when SHE does it, it's perceived (by man-hating, emasculating harpies) that she's trying to bring out the "best" in you. RD, STAND YOUR GROUND. Don't be inflexible, but on important issues such as the possibility of acquiescing due to the lack of a spine, STAND YOUR GROUND INSTEAD!

[Deal Seeker]

What happened?

4 days gone by and not one single post?

Here's one for your consideration. My wife says she wants me to watch something on TV a couple of days ago. I figured that she had taped the last nights showing of Next Top Model.... so I said sure.

It was a total ambush! It was a taped episode of Tyra Banks talk show. There was this woman complaining about her husband. Who even I would agree, is totally addicted to porn. He has mags all over the place. Spends hours and hours looking at it on his computer. Then he usually goes out to the strip clubs in the evening.

Now I'm not stupid so I can see what's coming. Sure enough the wife starts up on how someone else's marriage is being affected by porn addiction. But here's the kicker..... I'm NOT having any kind of porn addiction! I threw out all my old movies at her request, when we got married. I never go out to those clubs (waste of time and money) and I haven't had any porn mags around since I was a teenager.

About the only thing I do is look at it on the computer a few times a week and even then it's when she's not around the house. What the fuck is it with women and porn? They just can't seem to tolerate it. And, I know I don't appreciate being bushwacked like that. Things had been going really well for the last couple of weeks, then this stupid goddamn topic comes up on Tyra.

It's always the same shit. The woman says there's a problem we need to work on. Of course, when she says "we", she really means me.

Long story short, I told her I wasn't anywhere even close to that guy they were showing on TV. And If she can't put up with some of my bad habits once in a while that's just too fucking bad.

Comments?

Rock

Women believe that looking at porn = cheating on her. Even if that wasn't the case, women are insecure, hell, you're married to her, and she still feels insecure. My policy is "no oprah" or oprah-like. Because it ends up being aplologist crap for why women are victims. Why women go back to the men that beat them and their children. It ends up being the same, all the fault of men.

I think if "you AND your wife" were to be "working" on this. Her part would be, she would work out more often to be smoking hot looking, and she would study porn so she could deliver something more along what tickles your fantasies.

I work in an old female office (save for this rooster), and if men invented a double standard, women have perfected it. The go on about how women are oppressed in this country, and discriminated against. But I'm the only male in my office, and I'm not the boss by any stretch of the imagination, and I hear bigoted, anti-male drivel all the time.

Also, my co-workers all complain about their husbands/boyfriends. I do notice without an exception in my office, that the women all marry men that have less education than they do. Then complain about how stupid their husband/boyfriends are. So, does that mean smarter men avoid women like my co-workers, or does it mean that women like my co-workers only seek out men "stupider" than they, or does it mean only men like my co-workers's husbands/boyfriends are stupid enough to marry (in the first place) women like my co-workers?

My own opinion, is my co-workers' husbands aren't stupid, they are tradesmen, and managers (far from stupid). But they got suckered into getting married.

[Rock Dog]

What happened?

4 days gone by and not one single post?

Here's one for your consideration. My wife says she wants me to watch something on TV a couple of days ago. I figured that she had taped the last nights showing of Next Top Model.... so I said sure.

It was a total ambush! It was a taped episode of Tyra Banks talk show. There was this woman complaining about her husband.... who even I would agree, is totally addicted to porn. He has mags all over the place. Spends hours and hours looking at it on his computer. Then he usually goes out to the strip clubs in the evening.

Now I'm not stupid so I can see what's coming. Sure enough the wife starts up on how someone else's marriage is being affected by porn addiction. But here's the kicker..... I'm NOT having any kind of porn addiction! I threw out all my old movies at her request, when we got married. I never go out to those clubs (waste of time and money) and I haven't had any porn mags around since I was a teenager.

About the only thing I do is look at it on the computer a few times a week and even then it's when she's not around the house. What the fuck is it with women and porn? They just can't seem to tolerate it. And, I know I don't appreciate being bushwacked like that. Things had been going really well for the last couple of weeks, then this stupid goddamn topic comes up on Tyra.

It's always the same shit. The woman says there's a problem we need to work on. Of course, when she says "we", she really means me.

Long story short, I told her I wasn't anywhere even close to that guy they were showing on TV...... and if she can't put up with some of my bad habits once in a while that's just too fucking bad.

Comments?

Rock

[DJ FourMoney]

DJ,

I'm starting up my own record label. The plan is to only hire straight up G's, thugs and ex-cons fresh out of jail. I want all my artists to have maximum street-cred. We're gonna call our label...... "Criminal Recordz."

Rock

Could do that...

Though my ghetto card has "questionable" stamped on it mainly because I don't visit the hood much and that's by design.

I live the very much urban, middle-class, suburban life style and don't "front" I am what I am. Some might even called it "white washing" but eh, it doesn't bother me.

But actually that might be more headache than its worth, running an urban record label. Have you seen the police blotter lately?

Bart -

We don't talk enough homie! lol

You know The Boondocks is returning in Dec?

We should have plenty of new quotables from the show just in time for Christmas...

Thanks for the tips on traveling. Its Air India I am taking. Cheapest price I could find. I used Yahoo travel.

I'm just trying to earn more spending cash.

Marak -

I only went over to the Romania board to learn more about the scene there, mainly caused by spending time with that Hungarain girl, as seen elsewhere on this board. I found that part of the thread and felt I should post.

All of the information I spit on there is easy to find on the net actually, though I knew it without it since I have about 20 records remixed by David Morales alone.

Oh one more thing Marak, your research hasn't gotten you far because I'm easily identified. Though DD and myself didn't see eye to eye, short of giving my exact location I can assure you that I am black and have been pulled over by Simi Valley PD for all the WRONG reasons.

I would give you a hint, but that's too easy.

[Rock Dog]

DJ,

I'm starting up my own record label. The plan is to only hire straight up G's, thugs and ex-cons fresh out of jail. I want all my artists to have maximum street-cred. We're gonna call our label...... "Criminal Recordz."

Rock

[Bart9000]

Although I have been wondering where his head is, I can attest that Dj has become knowlegable about the airfare market "across the pond"

B9K

[DJ FourMoney]

DJ, I don't know where to start. But you are scaring me, man.

You wrote a rambling post a while back, and now another rambling post about whether to run after stars instead of non-stars. Why? Because you are lonely? Don't like travelling?

Most hot women, not just porn stars, have trouble finding stability in their relationships. Have you ever thought seriously about why that is so. The reasons have been discussed in this thread. It not because the vrey large number of men who run after those women, such as yourself now, are such losers that these women can't stomach them.

It is because really hot women have been lead astray by the people in their lives, and believe that they deserve a true prince and that they can find one if they are choosy enough. Well, that prince doesn't exist. No man ever measures up so these women dump him and move on to the next man on their list. They end up never developing a healthy long-term relationship.

Mature, intelligent men realize this and do not bother chasing after them. You are now coming across (at least to me) as a man who has an unrealistic fantasy woman in mind and wants to find her. Please drop this idea of running after porn stars. Their complaint that they can't get a steady boyfriend is probably a scam to get the gullible hooked onto the radio and cable programs they host. I do not want to read about you getting arrested for stalking some actress. Get some help.

I think you read that wrong...

I bought my ticket last night, Im virtually gone - Oct 25th

Like I said this is nothing new to me. I live in Porn Valley, uh San Fernando Valley. In fact I live in the very corner most of the bigger companies are based.

I would have done somethin like this a long time ago, im not alone, or lonely. I'm just looking for cheap ways to have sex without comin out of the pocket before hand.

Eh, like I said, I just thought I would post my thoughts.

Marak -

Nothing personal... But

I have been a DJ since 1986. I have done just about ever major venue in Los Angeles. I have met just about everybody from Def Mix (which is the remix company run by David Morales and Frankie Knuckles among others) among plenty of others in the DJ biz. Been to the Winter Music Convr and even Jack The Rapper.

I have plenty of street cred in LA, no need to floss it.

If there is one thing besides Racing and DJ'in/Music I do know is other DJ's

I don't have the time to chase porn stars anyway. Way too much trouble.

Marak, you're welcome to PM me. I wasn't sure if I wanted go to the AVN's in Jan, but if your down to go. Let me know.

I am not fake...

and I can be found all over the net if you bother to look, not that nobody hasn't done that before... Look for that post.

[Sinanju Master]

On another Playboy show, Adult DVD Review, with Maria Menendez and some other guy . Now as I understand it, Maria isn't a peformer, she used to work for KSEX here in LA. But anyway, the point is she was complaining last week about not having regular sex partners.

Maybe the possibility of being compared (more than likely NEGATIVELY) against male pornstars is a HUGE obstacle to that, don't ya think? I mean c'mon... if I'm in bed with a chick that is constantly bedding the likes of guys like Peter North, Lex Steele or Shane Diesel, do you THINK she's gonna have one of THEM in the back of her mind while I'm whipping out my bag of tricks and TRYING to make it a meaningful experience for us BOTH? She's gonna more than likely just go through the motions and say: "Next"! Fuck that!

Why is my arse sitting here counting the days until my trip if this is the case?

What could be better than a freebie from a Porn Star? No strings and if you tear it up right, she'll be calling you for another session.

FREEBIE?? What planet are you FROM?? I have a feeling that you have a lot in common with characters Dan Aykroyd and Jane Curtain created, if anyone here is sharp enough to catch onto that.

This has been buggin me all week, so I thought I would share to see what kind of replies I got.

Ask and Ye shall receive...

I know for most of us, A list girls are out of most poster's budgets. Speaking of Lisa Sparxxx, she runs $750 with $150 upfront non refundable if you flake.

A] No SHIT! [B No pressure THERE with the nonrefundable deposit!

One more thing, if you have some strange notion about providers over porn stars, I wouldn't understand it, so don't even try to post about it. You have no idea how many people that provider your with has fucked and I'd say the ratio is about the same between the two. I'd even say that porn stars are safer to fuck, just harder to fuck for free (especially if you don't live in LA).

Pornstars merely get TESTED instead of PREVENTING STD's, so your premise is WHACK! Do you know how many guys said pornstar has fucked OFF-SCREEN? I thought so...

DJ4M, that pipe ain't good for you, man... PLEASE quit it

[George90]

I have been listening to Playboy Radio on Sirius lately. Specifically, Nightcalls with Christy Canyon and Ginger Lynn. I have emailled them a couple of times and they have read it on-air.

But anyway, this post isn't about that. Its about something else I have discovered.

On another Playboy show, Adult DVD Review, with Maria Menendez and some other guy . Now as I understand it, Maria isn't a peformer, she used to work for KSEX here in LA. But anyway, the point is she was complaining last week about not having regular sex partners.

Now she's not a bad looking women, not at all. Have a look on Playboy.com offical Playboy Radio page and you'll see what I mean. In fact I'd rate her at least an 8.

But I have also discovered those that aren't married or complete sluts like Lisa Sparxxx do have trouble finding reliable "booty" calls.

Why is my arse sitting here counting the days until my trip if this is the case?

What could be better than a freebie from a Porn Star? No strings and if you tear it up right, she'll be calling you for another session.

This has been buggin me all week, so I thought I would share to see what kind of replies I got.

I know for most of us, A list girls are out of most poster's budgets. Speaking of Lisa Sparxxx, she runs $750 with $150 upfront non refundable if you flake.

On a related subject, speaking of Ginger Lynn... She's on Myspace (So is Flower Tucci....)

Appearantly she hooks up with guys she meets online. Now let's be honest, she may have some miles on her, but she looks good to be in her early 40's. Sometimes I don't understand this infactuation with young nubile women, especially those with no experience. Sure you can get a young provider that might like anal, but what about squirting, CMI, etc? Any other elements of PSE?

I'm fairly sure Ginger would bang you crazy and she's truely nasty (in a good way), if she found you attractive.

So for those of us on the west coast, how come we aren't putting as much effort into "star fucking" as we are into regular women? My rastional is that if you can pick up regular girls, you shouldn't have any problem picking up porn stars and maybe a hollywood "hoe" every once and awhile. Its all about having access to "spit your game" right?

I dunno maybe Im stupid, but hmmm I know way too many people that have fucked, are fucking or have fucked somebody well-known. Instead of looking for a woman that "might" be open to exploring different "flavors" of sex, you already know what your getting with most porn stars and frankly some are beyond what we would expect from them anyway. Quite a few are swingers as well.

Am I totally offbase?

One more thing, if you have some strange notion about providers over porn stars, I wouldn't understand it, so don't even try to post about it. You have no idea how many people that provider your with has fucked and I'd say the ratio is about the same between the two. I'd even say that porn stars are safer to fuck, just harder to fuck for free (especially if you don't live in LA).

DJ, I don't know where to start. But you are scaring me, man.

You wrote a rambling post a while back, and now another rambling post about whether to run after stars instead of non-stars. Why? Because you are lonely? Don't like travelling?

Most hot women, not just porn stars, have trouble finding stability in their relationships. Have you ever thought seriously about why that is so. The reasons have been discussed in this thread. It not because the vrey large number of men who run after those women, such as yourself now, are such losers that these women can't stomach them.

It is because really hot women have been lead astray by the people in their lives, and believe that they deserve a true prince and that they can find one if they are choosy enough. Well, that prince doesn't exist. No man ever measures up so these women dump him and move on to the next man on their list. They end up never developing a healthy long-term relationship.

Mature, intelligent men realize this and do not bother chasing after them. You are now coming across (at least to me) as a man who has an unrealistic fantasy woman in mind and wants to find her. Please drop this idea of running after porn stars. Their complaint that they can't get a steady boyfriend is probably a scam to get the gullible hooked onto the radio and cable programs they host. I do not want to read about you getting arrested for stalking some actress. Get some help.

[George90]

I was sitting at the comp and watching the game at the same time when I see a Ford commercial. It depicts a woman driving along a country road with her kids in an SUV. She smiles back at them and continues driving. They then get to their destination, which happens to be dad’s place. They enjoy a day in the country. Near the end of the commercial, the two kids hug dad at the same time and after they get in the SUV for the trip back home, dad says to his ex: “Thanks for inviting me along”. The look on his face is one of happiness (because he got to see his kids) and emasculation (because his life is at the behest of his ex-wife). The guy looked like a SHELL of a man and it reinforced the image I’ve been reading on the board of the incompetent, less-than passably intelligent, feminized male. It almost ruined my Sunday afternoon…

I have seen that same ad several times. I am very offended by it. But now there are SO MANY ads that ridicule and degrade men that if I complained about them all, I wouldn't have time for anything else. My revenge is that I do NOT buy the product that such ads are promoting. If I ever get chosen for a focus group regarding advertising, I will give the researchers an earful.

[DJ FourMoney]

I have been listening to Playboy Radio on Sirius lately. Specifically, Nightcalls with Christy Canyon and Ginger Lynn. I have emailled them a couple of times and they have read it on-air.

But anyway, this post isn't about that. Its about something else I have discovered.

On another Playboy show, Adult DVD Review, with Maria Menendez and some other guy . Now as I understand it, Maria isn't a peformer, she used to work for KSEX here in LA. But anyway, the point is she was complaining last week about not having regular sex partners.

Now she's not a bad looking women, not at all. Have a look on Playboy.com offical Playboy Radio page and you'll see what I mean. In fact I'd rate her at least an 8.

But I have also discovered those that aren't married or complete sluts like Lisa Sparxxx do have trouble finding reliable "booty" calls.

Why is my arse sitting here counting the days until my trip if this is the case?

What could be better than a freebie from a Porn Star? No strings and if you tear it up right, she'll be calling you for another session.

This has been buggin me all week, so I thought I would share to see what kind of replies I got.

I know for most of us, A list girls are out of most poster's budgets. Speaking of Lisa Sparxxx, she runs $750 with $150 upfront non refundable if you flake.

On a related subject, speaking of Ginger Lynn... She's on Myspace (So is Flower Tucci....)

Appearantly she hooks up with guys she meets online. Now let's be honest, she may have some miles on her, but she looks good to be in her early 40's. Sometimes I don't understand this infactuation with young nubile women, especially those with no experience. Sure you can get a young provider that might like anal, but what about squirting, CMI, etc? Any other elements of PSE?

I'm fairly sure Ginger would bang you crazy and she's truely nasty (in a good way), if she found you attractive.

So for those of us on the west coast, how come we aren't putting as much effort into "star fucking" as we are into regular women? My rastional is that if you can pick up regular girls, you shouldn't have any problem picking up porn stars and maybe a hollywood "hoe" every once and awhile. Its all about having access to "spit your game" right?

I dunno maybe Im stupid, but hmmm I know way too many people that have fucked, are fucking or have fucked somebody well-known. Instead of looking for a woman that "might" be open to exploring different "flavors" of sex, you already know what your getting with most porn stars and frankly some are beyond what we would expect from them anyway. Quite a few are swingers as well.

Am I totally offbase?

One more thing, if you have some strange notion about providers over porn stars, I wouldn't understand it, so don't even try to post about it. You have no idea how many people that provider your with has fucked and I'd say the ratio is about the same between the two. I'd even say that porn stars are safer to fuck, just harder to fuck for free (especially if you don't live in LA).

[Sinanju Master]

I was sitting at the comp and watching the game at the same time when I see a Ford commercial. It depicts a woman driving along a country road with her kids in an SUV. She smiles back at them and continues driving. They then get to their destination, which happens to be dad’s place. They enjoy a day in the country. Near the end of the commercial, the two kids hug dad at the same time and after they get in the SUV for the trip back home, dad says to his ex: “Thanks for inviting me along”. The look on his face is one of happiness (because he got to see his kids) and emasculation (because his life is at the behest of his ex-wife). The guy looked like a SHELL of a man and it reinforced the image I’ve been reading on the board of the incompetent, less-than passably intelligent, feminized male. It almost ruined my Sunday afternoon…

[Artisttyp]

George90 made an intresting point along those lines. It has to get miserable enough for women to appreciate their situation in the western world. Going out on endless free dates without having to compensate isn't enough.
I dont believe it will get better until the next generation will realize all these "rights" are actually wrongs and self involvment has nothing to do with progress.

[Rock Dog]

I've heard of that book before. It must have been a real eye-opener for her!

Just imagine the understanding of each other that men and women could gain if they could spend a year like that. Think of all the possibilities! A bad-boy loser could spend a year as one of the girls he's used to finding fucking and forgetting. A beautiful but spoiled woman could spend a year as one of the guys she never gives a look to.

For that matter, all beautiful women should have to spend a year being completely homely so they could appreciate what they've got instead of taking things for granted.

Of course that's just wishful thinking, but still.... I imagine there'd be some real change of heart if it was possible.

Rock