American Women

[Bart9000]

I see that you have adopted one of my favorite tools, exposing hypocrasy through reversing the genders in a given situation:

A couple of observations:

1. It's been said here before-Prostitution....it's the only honest way to get laid.

2. This board is pretty flexible as you know....we go all the way from Bush Bashing to expatriation issues (two closely related isssues in fact).....the only time I have ever seen anyone call "off topic" is when we are beating our troll.

3. In addition to the paternalism (more on that in a moment) as have pointed out before, the prohibition (it's well established that they don't work by the way, leading back into you crim/decrim points) is about POWER...the more that men want sex and can't get it, the more power women have, which manifests all over the place.....just the other day, I met a hot little 22 year old piece of ass who has a SEXY finance job (one that I would give up a testicle to get-I have an MS in that field)....her qualification..a BS in psychology.....plus somewhere, a hiring authority who wants to fuck her. I can't help but think that if the market price for hot young pussy were established, and supply was available, the hiring authority in that case would have been less motivated by his dick, and more prone to say hire someone who can tell him what a correlation coeficient is.

(Going to watch Deadwood....more later......Calamity Jane rules all!!!)


OK I'm back....Damn no Calamity Jane this week.

4. The paternalistic bulllshit (major perpetratorrs being white middle class biddies, along with religious fucks) goes far beyond sex workers.....I find it quite patronizing (the same way that you do) that some of these people feel a need to determine what literature, film and radio broadcasts I should be consuming as I am most certainly incapable of making these determinations on my own........I REALLY need some simple minded, ignorant, dumb as fuck housefrau to decide that I can't handle watching "The Shield", reading "Catcher in the Rye", or listening to "Howard Stern", without suffering personal harm or engaging in socially destructive behavior.

5. On a completely different subject.......there is a girl at my job....17 years old (18 in a few months), she is smoking fucking hot....she literally looks like a petite little pornstar, but is just a hair geeky, which makes her even hotter, because it makes her seem "gettable".......she is smart, funny, and cool as hell. And I am so proud of her. Her long standing boyfriiend is NICE, very smart, responsible studious, hardworkinig, somewhat geeky and insecure, and treats her like a princess, is crazy about her and faithful,..........basically about the furthest fucking thinig that one could be from some the "bad boy loser"/jerks/smooth talkers/"alpha males" (quotations because from high school, those are the guys who often end up wth a glamorous career working for the local oil change place) that most of her hot little contemporaries pine over. This is the way that the fuckinig world shoulld be.



B9k

[Rubber Nursey]

part of all of that is puritanical bullshit too. i'm under the understanding that some parts of the world don't consider the work...to be any different than any other type of work.

not entirely true - even in other parts of the world, such as mine, where sex work is considered 'legitimate' (if not entirely 'legal') in most parts of the country and sex workers are taxed, unionised and (in theory) covered by industrial and oh&s law, sex work is still not considered to be 'normal' work and sex workers themselves are still subject to all the same stigma, discrimination and outright hatred from society, that they are in any other part of the world. (but you're right in blaming a lot of that on "puritanical bullshit").

"but it is dangerous"...men do all kinds of dangerous work, why isn't this an issue with them?

ah...because in the other types of work that you're talking about, other men are not the danger! this is not about whether or not men are the victims. this is about men being the perpetrators. i know most people see sex work as a 'women's issue' - and with 90something percent of sex workers being female, it largely is - but if you have a closer look at the other 10ish percent, you'll notice something very interesting. male and transsexual sex workers, who see male clients, are treated exactly the same way by society as female sex workers. they are seen as abused, victimised, at risk and in danger, just like the girls are. just as female sex workers are painted as being drug dependent, uneducated and sexually dysfunctional (generally assumed to have been abused as children or treated badly by men in adulthood), men and transsexuals who have sex with men for money are also assumed to be drug addicted, uneducated, abuse victims with sexual identity issues - unlike men who have sex with women for money.

compare the images associated with the words 'rent-boy' or 'male prostitute', to the word gigolo. a rent-boy is a junkie standing on a street corner looking for a man to give him a bed for the night in exchange for a blow job - a gigolo is a suave, intelligent handsome man who is an expert in sex (female sex workers are rarely ever considered 'experts' in their field!!), who does the job for the glamour and excitement it provides. compare the movies working girl and pretty woman - where the hooker with a heart of gold is 'rescued' by her night in shining armour - to the comedy deuce bigolo. the fact that it is a comedy says something about how society perceives men who charge women for sex. compare the gigolo's sprawling home to the cheap, nasty flat that julia roberts' pretty woman lives in. compare the romantic dinner dates that deuce goes on, to the violence and abuse that julia experiences. compare the gigolo's jetsetting lifestyle (why he needed a housesitter in the first place) to julia hocking her arse on a street corner.

to me that says that when it comes to sex, men are powerful and in control of their own bodies - women are submissive and not in control and therefore at risk of exploitation and abuse at the hands of men. men and transsexuals, for some reason, suddenly fall into the 'female' category as soon as they charge for sex. (oh, hang on, we don't charge men for sex - that would suggest some element of control. men buy us and use us for sex!)


as to your other points...

yes, some women are enslaved and 'forced' to pay off debts, contracts, etc. that is because in most countries - even where prostitution is legal - sex workers cannot enter the country legitimately as a sex worker (that is, they cannot apply for a working visa to work in the sex industry). if they could do this legally, there would be no need for traffickers or middle men to falsify documents and smuggle them in. the women could enter the country (and leave) of their own accord. why can't they do this? because moralists/feminazis/religious zealots refuse to allow sex work to be seen as, and treated as, a legitimate occupation. (this very topic is the current discussion in the morality section).

yes, the job is dangerous. even in the safest of sex working environments (like australia), sex workers are robbed, beaten, stalked and raped, all the time. we are ripped off by clients and brothel owners and (believe it or not) the tax dept. we are harassed by police. isn't this, in itself, a good argument to criminalise the sex industry? no! this happens because the industry is criminalised! by forcing us to operate illegally (or at best, in a legal 'grey area') we have no support from police and no legal recourse when we are mistreated. so why is sex work not decriminalised for sex workers' safety? because moralists/feminazis/religious zealots refuse to allow sex work to be seen as, and treated as, a legitimate occupation.

and as for 'emotional scarring' - there have been surveys carried out all over the world that ask sex workers what is responsible for any emotional scars they may have from their time in the industry. their answer is always, overwhelmingly, the stigma associated with being a wh*re. its the opinions and attitudes of society that hurt us the most. its the way they portray us on the tv and in the newspapers. its the way judges let off serial killers and [CodeWord127] who 'only' targeted prostitutes. its the fear that you live with, every day of your life (even once you stop working) that someone may find out about your past and you could lose everything. its the myths and lies about sex workers and the sex industry that are accepted as fact by most of society. and who perpetrates those myths? the moralists/feminazis/religious zealots who refuse to allow sex work to be seen as, and treated as, a legitimate occupation! (are you starting to see a pattern here? )

apologies for continuing this discussion in the aw section, when i really should have moved it to the morality section, but i figured that this topic does go some way to describing some women's prejudices and attitudes towards other women and the sexual power dynamic between women and men.

ps. bart: i don't think it's that hookers aren't charging enough - i think its that we are doing it too blatantly. that is, too honestly. the 'average' woman might be thinking "if he wants my pussy, i'm gonna slowly manipulate him into buying me dinner, then jewellery, then the house and car". a hooker says "if you want my pussy - give me 200 bucks!"

[Rock Dog]

Giggity,

It looks like you are new to this forum. Welcome! Here you will hear the TRUE opinions from those who aren't afraid to speak their minds.

The truth is, there are women who absolutely hate what we do. They hate us for buying sex, instead of begging for it.

They hate us for daring to look for a wife outside the national border. They hate us even more when they see how young, beautiful and easy-going she is...... especially compared to them. They even hate women.... any woman who breaks ranks and makes a man happy without first negotiating the ultimate price.

What's more, they don't just hate us and leave it at that. Many of them actively seek to punish us for doing these things. They agitate, mobilize and try dreaming up new regulations and passing laws that are purposely designed to keep us on our knees.

Think I'm paranoid? Look at what happens to the average guy in divorce court. Look at the laws here regarding prostitution..... then compare how things are in other countries. Look at IMBRA...... designed to make it far more difficult for men to meet and marry foreign (ie. better) women. Imbra was cooked up and introduced by 2 middle-aged FEMALE politicians.

Jane McGuire, and others like her, have an agenda. We should keep an eye on them and oppose them whenever and however we can.

Rock

[Giggity]

Oh yeah, I have a message for Jane McGuire of Maine, the woman that suggested "all American men looking for a date, should have their background info and a search through sex offender registry results in hand before asking any woman out."

FUCK YOU, C**T!!!

I don't see Jane McGuire on page one, so Good Lord, man! You actually read past the first page of this drivel? I can't even get past the first page of a sensationalist political tabloid, oops I mean newspaper, without laughing my ass off about intentional omissions and biased reporting.

Well, anyway, at least Jane here has all but admitted her seething distrust of men who talk to foreign women, and isn't wrapping her statment in a gold-fringed flag like damn near every TV talk show host, oops I mean "cable news reporter."

[Rock Dog]

Regarding the fellow in Astor's recent post:

"I had plenty of BJ's in the year and a half we dated. Not one since the wedding band went on." Dude, if you're getting that kind of satisfaction why spoil things by getting married?

"We also had sex 2-3 times per week while dating." Again, keep on dating!

"On our wedding night, my wife told me she was too tired for sex." UH-OH!!!
Red flags going up all over the place. At this point, you should have come to this full realization that something is terribly wrong.

"We had sex only once. After I begged for it." Married less than a week and already we can see who's in charge.

"14 years ago, and also the last time we had sex." You should have started getting some on the side..... a good time to start would have been about 14 years ago .

That was my policy even back in the days when I was dating. There's always going to be these girls who don't put out right away. Most of them are good to go after a few weeks. However, some of them test a guy by making him wait for it for months. This is also a strategy they use to get the upper hand in a relationship..... they are showing the guy that they don't need him as much as he needs her.

When I found myself dating a girl like that, I'd see her maybe 2 or 3 times a week. On the other nights, I'd spend some quality time with women who were a bit more "easy going". Of course women don't like it when a guy does that. They call it cheating. The real reason they don't like it is because there's no way they'll maintain the upper hand if the guy has his other options available.

Last quote:
"About a year ago, my wife told me she suspected I was cheating on her, and that if she ever found out for sure, she would leave me. I had never cheated (paid or unpaid). But the whole threat thing pissed me off, especially being falsely accused. That's when I decided to start hobbying. Haven't regretted it since."

Amen brother, amen.

Rock

[Bbois77]

When will men generally realise......only about 5% of women enjoy sex.....for what it is, what it gives back etc....a further 5-10% will enjoy it in the right circumstances....ie..holidays, alcohol on the go..a guy they really...really fancy.......so that leaves......85%...to whom sex ...means little or nothing....

If it meant anything to a woman.......they would do the chasing, regardless of social/religious mores and morality...believe me.........so guys get up on your hind legs and beg.......like the lap dogs you are............



Whats the one food that puts a woman completely off sex......?

Wedding cake....


Why does the bride smile so much on her wedding day?

Cos thats the day after which, she will never ever have to give another blow job............go figure.....

[Capt Ajax]

I saw this on other board and thought I'd it post here. It's about an American Guy and his American wife.

I had plenty of BJ's in the year and a half we dated. Not one since the wedding band went on. We also had sex 2-3 times per week while dating. On our wedding night, my wife told me she was too tired for sex. The following honeymoon week at a romantic resort in the Bahamas, we had sex only once. After I begged for it.

In the first few years of marriage had sex maybe once every 2 weeks, and only in missionary position. It was obvious it had become a chore to my wife. As soon as she became pregnant with our first child, sex stopped completely. No medical reason, she just flat out said she didn't want to until after the baby was born. After pleading for 6 months after that birth, she finally said O.K. Wouldn't you know, that one time was all it took, and she was pregnant again. That was 14 years ago, and also the last time we had sex.

We talked about it several times, until she admitted she just plain didn't like sex. She said it had nothing to do with me (I'm still fit and not unattractive), and she wasn't lesbian. She just didn't enjoy sex, never had, and never will. But said she would occasionally go through the motions if I insisted. Don't know about you guys, but pretty hard for me to get and keep a woody up (even tho my wife is very attractive) when I know my partner is not interested. So I never insisted.

About a year ago, my wife told me she suspected I was cheating on her, and that if she ever found out for sure, she would leave me. I had never cheated (paid or unpaid). But the whole threat thing pissed me off, especially being falsely accused.

That's when I decided to start hobbying. Haven't regretted it since.

[Bart9000]

part of all of that is puritanical bullshit too. i'm under the understanding that some parts of the world don't consider the work of accepting a strange man't penis into the mouth, or vagina to be any different than any other type of work.

the feminazi would say:

"doing this can cause emotional scarring"-to which i would have to reply "yea, but so can lots of other kinds of work....i have literal nightmares, and am sometimes prompted to get up and punch walls in response to things that have happened to me doing fucking restaurant work.

"but it is dangerous"-again, so is a lot of other kinds of work. i have heard stories about men being literally vaporized by molten steel in the steel mills near my home. my next door neighbor caught a shot to the head from something swinging on a crane boom, and died at 38. men do all kinds of dangerous work, why isn't this an issue with them?

sometimes the women are enslaved.....in the event that someone is actually kidnapped or deceived into forced sex work, being held against their will, i personally would (given the ability to do so) gladly lead the raiding party to arrest and prosecute the slimy predators engaging in this behavior. however, other times, women do voluntarily contract to provide sex services in a brothel for a fixed period of time in exchange for accomodations and transportation out of their poor country...sometimes they do this as desperation from not having any other options.....and in other cases, they do it because they want to make "big money" and go shopping a lot. i'm sure that some feminazi's would say that it is wrong to be held in such a contract, but there is prescedent elsewhere for this type of thing....for example in miliary service, utilized by most evey government in the world....you can enter service, and deprive yourself of the liberty to go wherever you want, and to not be sent into environments where you could lose your life....there are certainly other examples, for example, signing yourself up as a crew memberr of a fishing boat. in that situation, you are certainly voluntarily deprived of your liberty for the duration of the voyage, and may in fact be risking your life on a daily basis.

"but it's still just wrong for a woman to have to sleep with a man she isn't attracted to" aaah now that logic and reason have failed us, it's time to just make arbitray judgments and proclamation.....let me bring up the hypocisy now of marriage (i think cho covered this a few days ago-maybe not this exact perception).......there are all kinds of women married and (ocassionally) accepting cock into their bodies that they aren't especially attracted to.....perhaps these women underneath it all feel that the sex workers just aren't charging enough and scewing with their market share.

by the way, i encountered the simplistic identification of "good" and "bad" in brain dead hausfaus while i was a financial advisor. my boss, rep001hinly incompetent as a money manager made a half mill a year shifting around the investments of about 400 brainless oprahzombies......they let him do pretty much whatever he wanted to do because he is a nice man who talks to them about their children, grandchildren, fishing, health ailments....etc


b9k

ps i wish that petition forum were still open....we could have some fun with it...there were a few rep001hing comments up there pertaining to the collective idiocy. does anyone know of anyplace else on the net that we could go and fuck with people like this?

[Rubber Nursey]

They tend to hear what they want to hear, and believe without question anything that is fed to them through a "credible" source......and disregard anything coming in from a "bad" source despite that source having a perfectly reasoned logical argument, with valid supporting points.

My point exactly - and those 'bad' sources include the very women that they supposedly care so much about. Sex worker advocates have been dealing with this for decades. Feminazis claim that sex workers are being victimised by prostitution. Wh*re activists say that THEY know better than anyone else what it's like to be involved in prostitution and that they are NOT being victimised. Feminazi response: "These 'poor women' have been so beaten down and degraded by the sex industry that their self-esteem is low enough that they BELIEVE they aren't being victimised...which is (of course) irrefutable proof that they ARE being victimised. We need to defend them because they are obviously in no condition to defend themselves!"

(Strangely enough, hookers who HAVE been victimised and abused and are willing to share that horror story with the world ARE SUDDENLY ENTIRELY CREDIBLE WITNESSES).

The same theory applies to Third World women marrying Westerners. If the woman claimed that she was truly happy taking care of the home and her loving husband, the feminazis would consider that proof positive that she was being 'brainwashed' into being a Stepford wife by an abusive mysogynist. Her opinion can't be trusted because she has been manipulated and exploited and is unable to see her own situation clearly.

It seems the only REAL authorities on what its like to be a hooker or a 'mail order bride' are white American soccer mums - who have probably never even SEEN a foreign bride or hooker in their entire sheltered, middle class lives.

[Bart9000]

Nursey showed up to agree....it must be a cold day in suburbia I mean hell

There are few things more dangerous to the ongoing safety/liberty of the word than the biddy/hausfrau/oprahzombie/middle class housewife/soccer mom.

As touched upon previously they:

Vote/support/donate to-any organization or individual that they percieve as being "good"-having tremendous free time and financial resouces makes them a force of nature. in regards to inflicting change..

Don't delve any further than the superficial level into issues (The T-shirt answers-"Do it for the childen"...."Potect the helpless women")-most of them, having needed little more than a vagina to secure a comfortable existence, didn't need to develop any critical reading or analytical skills. They tend to hear what they want to hear, and believe without question anything that is fed to them through a "credible" source......and disregard anything coming in from a "bad" source despite that source having a perfectly reasoned logical argument, with valid supporting points.

Generally are big believers in controlling the world through rules and laws at the expense of freedom........some things just shouldn't be allowed you know....

B9k

PS I'm sure that everyone knows that I think the current US president, VP, and several other cronies should be removed from the White House in handcuffs, but something that scares me almost as much is Hillary.....now I'm basically a big leftist, but given the state of things (and I could be wrong-she is very intelligent, and does have the ability to see past the stupid superficial levels of issues, unlike the biddies who would be her constituency), putting her in the White house will likely put nails into some coffins.

[Rubber Nursey]

Chocha Monger: For once, I'm almost in agreement with you!

These people are among the same people who are responsible for the type of legislation/policy discussed recently in the Morality section. However, these women are NOT feminists. They are what I would classify as 'feminazis' - in fact, I would go as far as calling them ANTI-feminists, as their ideology is at best patronizing to women and at worst, bordering on misogyny.

Of COURSE they haven't addressed underlying causes, just as they would never offer up two sides of the story and encourage INFORMED debate. Because, like all zealots and fanatics, there IS no reasoning with them. There IS no discussion to be had. They are right, we are wrong, end of story. And of course there are always sheep willing to jump on the bandwagon and lend their support, because most people are TOO DAMN LAZY AND SELF-ABSORBED to bother searching for background info on a petition's creators or, God forbid, actually read an entire piece of proposed legislation. Instead, they glance at the sensationalist summary at the top of the petition and like the good little sheep they are, give themselves the warm and fuzzies by signing it and doing their bit to 'protect' those 'poor women'. Hey, abolishing sex slavery and preventing violence against women seems like a pretty darn noble cause, doesn't it?

Unless you've been on the receiving end of their brand of 'protection' and can see it for what it really is. These groups don't want to protect vulnerable women from MEN - they want to protect those women from THEMSELVES.

There are two main types of feminazi: the rabid, man-hating lesbians and the white, middle class do-gooders. They often work together because they are fighting for the same ultimate result, but they have very different motivations. The hardcore lesbian feminazis (Sheila Jeffreys - an Australian 'feminist' and anti-prostitution campaigner who claims that "Male supremacy is centred around the act of sexual intercourse" - is a prime example) believe that there is something fundamentally wrong with ANY woman who would seek out a sexual relationship of ANY kind, with a man. In their eyes, prostitution, pornography and even marriage and heterosexual sex itself, are acts of male dominance and exploitation of women. These women certainly have their supporters, but (thankfully) the idea that all heterosexual sex is violence against women is a little difficult for most people to swallow, so (aside from those aforementioned morons who just read the petition summary and sign it) they don't attract quite as many followers as the other group does.

The other group is much more dangerous, because it's easy to believe that they are really trying to do the right thing - and, in fairness to them, most of them honestly believe that they ARE. These (usually) white, middle-class soccer mums proclaim to be upholding the feminist values of equality and freedom of choice, but they are actually doing the complete opposite. They are not protecting women from exploitative situations - they are protecting women from making (what the feminazis perceive to be) bad choices and putting THEMSELVES in exploitative situations. These do-gooders seem to think that feminist ideals only apply to certain 'types' of women. Women who are sex workers/foreigners/single mums/black/uneducated/poor/etc, are automatically assumed to be 'victims' and as such, do not qualify as strong, independent thinking women. We apparently need THEM to think FOR us. Can't they see that the whole ESSENCE of feminism is a woman's right to speak for herself and have her voice heard in the political arena and that these feminazi groups are ERODING THOSE RIGHTS every time they speak FOR us, AGAINST our wishes??? These soccer mums are giving us ONE choice - to be like THEM. They can't, for one second, imagine that a woman may choose to live her life any way but THEIR way. The RIGHT way.

In my opinion, neither the prostitution debate, nor the Marriage Broker Act, has anything to do with protecting women from men. This is not even about protecting 'vulnerable' women from making decisions (such as marrying a foreigner or working in a brothel) that they might later find intolerable. This is about stopping women from making life decisions that the FEMINAZIS find intolerable. I don't know whether they do this out of genuine concern, religious zeal, fear or just plain jealousy, but I wish they would just MIND THEIR OWN FKN BUSINESS, get on with their own lives and leave us to live ours the way we see fit.

Excuse the rant, but these selfish b*tches really make my blood boil.

[Ezinho]

Please click on the link to site below, read the posts and share your thoughts here with us.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takea...ltl=1151012396

Thank you very much for posting this link, Chocha, just one more reason why I need to permanently ex-patriate from this fucked up country I live in. Like I needed anymore reasons...

Anyways, I am lucky enough that I am self-employed, and so I spend 3-4 months a year out of the country, in Latin America, and I hope to permanently ex-pat before I am 35 (lofty goal I know, but it's possible). But for you guys that live in this country year-round, umm....how the hell do you do it??? If I had to live in this sex prison year round, I would want to blow my brains out!

But seriously, what keeps you guys from just giving up on life here in this sex prison, buying a one way ticket to Rio, and spending the rest of your life selling beers on the beach to tourists, and banging a different girl every week? I can't be the only person here who's fantasized about a life like this, can I?

Anyways, thanks for letting me vent. I've been back in this country for barely 2 months, and I'm already checking out airline tickets for next year!

Oh yeah, I have a message for Jane McGuire of Maine, the woman that suggested "all American men looking for a date, should have their background info and a search through sex offender registry results in hand before asking any woman out."

FUCK YOU, C*UNT!!!

[Chocha Monger]

Okay guys,

I found a real gem for you, a site used to petition for the International Marriage Broker Act. After reading a few thousand comments on the forum discussing IMBRA it was clear to see that AW are like mindless sheep. Someone yells, "Wolf!" and the flock screams, "Baaaaaaa!" as they rally around the flag. That pretty much summarizes their reaction to any cause presented as pro-female (anti-male).

Yes, all foreign women who marry an American man are poor misguided slaves who must be protected by law according to the AW supporting the petition. A few even went so far as to suggest that AW need similar protections and American men should be subjected to similar background checks, and so forth, before being allowed a date at home.

Interestingly, inspite of all the protests from these AW about women being treated as slaves and property none of them addressed the underlying cause of all the alleged abuse. That is correct gentlemen, not one of these women denounced marriage as an institution that enslaves women. How can one make a cogent argument for the protection of women from animalistic exploitive men without addressing an ancient ritual where a woman is limited to bearing the children of one man?

If these women support and engage in marriage then their entire argument falls apart and then the real issue becomes glaringly obvious, foreign women. Perhaps, if they started discussing marriage it would become clear that the real slaves who need some protection are men. Maybe, these women are not as stupid as they seem upon closer examination. They certainly seem to know how to limit their argument to popular feminist slogans rather than making any real case for their opinions.

Anyway, I say abolish marriage in America; it would put an end to all these women being abused and treated like slaves, not to mention it would put an end to the gays fighting for the privelege. Sure we can't put an end to marriage ceremonies, and such, but the government and legal system can surely cease to recognize it as a legally binding contract. If couples can't decide how to support and raise their children then the court can charge both parties an equal fee to arrive at a determination while obligating both to pay child support to the state which will decide how to disburse said funds. The state would reserve the right to conduct audits on the person receiving the support monies to ensure that the children are indeed benefitting from the funds, much like the IRS conducts tax audits.

There it is, no more slavery for thousands of American and immigrant women who are forced into marriage each year; no more marrying for benefits or economic advantage. After all, why stop with putting the international marriage broker agencies out of business when we can do the same to bridal shops and divorce lawyers?

Please click on the link to site below, read the posts and share your thoughts here with us.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takea...ltl=1151012396

[Bart9000]

Rock and Sin touched on something important. My vision of my ideal future involves early comfortable retirement to either someplace cool and urbane (cool condo in Prague, Buenos Aires, Rio, Odessa......whatever) or fairly isolated (maybe a South American or Easten European winery, or a private island-not as expensive as you think)...I know, I tend to deal in extremes.

I know damn well that if I had a moment of insanity and slipped a ring on an American girl's finger that my vision gets immediately co-opted into a "shared" (in other words HERS) one, consisting of embracing mediocrity by spending the next 30 years paying (with my likely 2 hour round trip commuting) for an overpriced house in some boring assed suburb, her SUV ("we just must have one to keep the children SAFE"), and whatever other shit Madison avenue convinces her she "must have"...the highlight of my life would then consist of weekends, spent engaging in "honey-do" projects, and hanging out with other dorky boring assed suburban couples, and an annual "vacation" very likely spending 18-36 hours fighting traffic with two whiny kids in the backseat for the plastic thrill of DisneyWorld or whatever....and that is if you are part of the "lucky" 40% who stay married, and you don't end up just PAYING for the afore mentioned scenario with the added bonus of "enjoying" it.

I think that Dante missed a level in "Paradise Lost"..or was that "The Inferno"

B9k

[Artisttyp]

i was just in el salvador and discussed the whole issue with this local guy.its basically pretty simple women are just spoiled in america and they take advantage of the situation just like guys do in third world countries.
i would just peel and fall over if laws started affecting my mongering trips.its the only thing giving me hope.

artisttyp

ps. great service in el salvador.i did my first 2 on 1 experience and it was so worth it...just like in the movies.