American Women

[SavePros321]

Remember this while you are hanging out with your nice girl. If she is not fucking you she is fucking someone else. Probably some guy who won't take her shopping and spend hours listening to her bullshit. Someone like me.

That just makes you her chump.

Alpha fucks; Beta bucks!

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Me [32M] with my wife [31F] of 7 years, our recent homecoming has totally changed my perception of her

"We met in college and have been together ever since. We recently had a 10 informal get together / reunion with our group from school. While there my wife spent a good amount of time talking with my first roommate from college, someone I never got along with and it has changed my idea of my wife.

When I was first in school my roommate was a popular guy, jock and frat type. He was very good with women. I thought he was superficial and lame but of course women disagreed. He got whatever he wanted. I didn't want the same to his extreme but I admit I resented that even the supposed good girl types lined up to be with him.

I moved out before the end of the year because I got tired of having to share space with yet another of his one night stands 4-5 times a week. He was just that guy, I even had a young-ish professor who was into him.

I moved out and we had some animosity over it even though we'd gotten along on a day to day basis otherwise. When I met my now wife the following year I was very interested in her because she was smart and beautiful and yet seemed unlike the other girls around me. One big thing was she was always skeptical and critical of my former roommate no matter how many people thought he was awesome.

Understand that when he was accused of harassing and possibly assaulting a girl the following year even the college administrator in charge of investigating the situation defended him as misunderstood and important to the campus community, so finding someone who seemed to be immune to his "spell" so to speak was huge to me. It wasn't the only thing, but it boosted her into another category in my eyes.

So we attended the get together last month and she was hanging out with him for a good amount of time, like old friends. I questioned this later and she has admitted spending time with him while we were dating in college. It turns out spending time with him also meant having oral sex with him on two occasions, messing around in general on other occasions.

In addition to having betrayed me (admittedly years ago) with my then least favorite person in the world, she still finds him charming today I can tell. I ask what happened to all that she said about him then, her ability to resist that and be sarcastic with him when he'd try to charm her like the others, she says she doesn't know, things just happened, why am I mad? It was years ago, etc.

She feels I'm unfair to hold this against her now, but for a month now I've just not been able to look at her the same. The details of the situation have killed me. Him playing playstation on the couch or watching football while she made him feel good is something I know but wish I didn't now. She tries to make it sound no big deal or just a thing or a mistake but it changes everything to me. She says she wants her husband back and her marriage back, I say I want the wife I thought I had. I wish I hadn't demanded to know what went on after I saw them together last month and the feelings still there apparently for her, at least seeing him as charming or attractive.

I don't intend to divorce but her friends and one of mine say I might be tossing everything away with my reaction. Of course the ones who knew him liked him which makes me sick. Has it been too long for this to be an issue? Am I potentially throwing away a good marriage to who I thought was the perfect woman?"

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[ThatGuy865]

Remember this while you are hanging out with your nice girl. If she is not fucking you she is fucking someone else. Probably some guy who won't take her shopping and spend hours listening to her bullshit. Someone like me.

That just makes you her chump.

That's just an immature outlook. As stated. Many MEN enjoy the company of women. Just as they do men.

It seems you are the one limited. In that you can only drink, hold conversations, with men.

MEN can have fun with a women he doesn't want to fuck. So who cares who else is fucking her. No wonder many guys have issues with women and have to pay for their company. They haven't a clue how to relate to women.

Many MEN enjoy evenings out with women. Since women attract women. Its a win win situation. Go out with women friends and they will draw other women for you to meet. But of course, since guys who only pay for sex. Don't know much about socializing. This concept is foreign to them.

Naked Gunz.

If foreign women were so attractive to American men and so right for them. Tell me why is it. The majority of service men that go abroad do NOT marry foreign women. Most come back to the states and marry AW. Why is that.

Sure there are some that marry foreign women but the majority don't. And Millions of military guys have been overseas and yet. Most come back to the USA And marry AW.

Seems your theory is not reality. Most want someone who has common language and culture.

[Rjsss212]

Remember this while you are hanging out with your nice girl. If she is not fucking you she is fucking someone else. Probably some guy who won't take her shopping and spend hours listening to her bullshit. Someone like me...

Which means she must be sitting next to you on a fucking bhat bus in Pattaya, Thailand. Yep, those are the girls we date all right. Enjoy the ride.

[Naked Gunz]

I personally don't enjoy fishing. I'd much rather hang out with a nice girl than be sitting on some boat waiting to catch some fish. To each his own I suppose.

Your forgetting the elephant in the room when it comes to American style "relationships", and that is the constant ass kissing of the female by the male to get the sex, even after the ring has been put on it. The American male has been reduced to some form of metrosexual female / male hybrid in order to gain and maintain the attention of women. They're are endless books, articles and TV interviews dedicated to women to show how they are ruining their relationships And yes, I like to fish.

One reason the majority of American men don't consider foreign women an option. Is the cultural and language differences.
Obviously for most men. Being with women is more than just about sex.

Actually, it's because of the cultural differences that foreign women are the BEST option. That difference is that they have been raised in male dominated societies, and have no idea that they are supposed to cut off the balls of they're men to gain or TAKE power in the union. Language can be learned. End of story.

That just makes you her chump.

Let a fool keep fooling himself.

[TellAll]

You'd rather do these things alone? (conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc.).

Most of those things are usually more enjoyable with a nice girl -- yes, even if sex is off the table -- unless you just hate being around people, which is typically unusual for our species.

I personally don't enjoy fishing. I'd much rather hang out with a nice girl than be sitting on some boat waiting to catch some fish. To each his own I suppose.

I agree with your observation about the disparity in the price of services inside versus outside the US, but that doesn't necessarily diminish the enjoyment of spending time with a nice girl.

Got plenty of male friends to socialize with and have more fun doing it. If sex is not on the table, I can't see any reason to waste my time hanging out with your so called nice girl.

Remember this while you are hanging out with your nice girl. If she is not fucking you she is fucking someone else. Probably some guy who won't take her shopping and spend hours listening to her bullshit. Someone like me.

That just makes you her chump.

[ThatGuy865]

If it was made absolutely clear up front that sex was off table (not happening), would anyone still invest the time for conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc. ,.

I do not think so. That is why after sex we generally lose interest. Unless she owns a fishing boat, and can cut bait.

Therefore, instead of wasting hundreds of dollars per shot on AW, take your vacations abroad and have a good time at a discount.

Even in Germany you can get more for $50 that you can for $300 in the USA.

Obviously many men don't agree. That's why there are terms "Girlfriend" and Wife. Because most men love to do many things with women not only sex. I know for guys solely dedicated to P4P, it's a hard concept to understand.

But there are many men who love the company of a woman. One reason the majority of American men don't consider foreign women an option. Is the cultural and language differences. The majority of men want relationships with women they can converse to and relate to. As much as having sex.

Obviously for most men. Being with women is more than just about sex.

[UltraHappy]

If it was made absolutely clear up front that sex was off table (not happening), would anyone still invest the time for conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc. ,.

I do not think so. That is why after sex we generally lose interest. Unless she owns a fishing boat, and can cut bait.

Therefore, instead of wasting hundreds of dollars per shot on AW, take your vacations abroad and have a good time at a discount.

Even in Germany you can get more for $50 that you can for $300 in the USA.

You'd rather do these things alone? (conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc.).

Most of those things are usually more enjoyable with a nice girl -- yes, even if sex is off the table -- unless you just hate being around people, which is typically unusual for our species.

I personally don't enjoy fishing. I'd much rather hang out with a nice girl than be sitting on some boat waiting to catch some fish. To each his own I suppose.

I agree with your observation about the disparity in the price of services inside versus outside the US, but that doesn't necessarily diminish the enjoyment of spending time with a nice girl.

[Mahaba]

If it was made absolutely clear up front that sex was off table (not happening), would anyone still invest the time for conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc. ,.

I do not think so. That is why after sex we generally lose interest. Unless she owns a fishing boat, and can cut bait.

Therefore, instead of wasting hundreds of dollars per shot on AW, take your vacations abroad and have a good time at a discount.

Even in Germany you can get more for $50 that you can for $300 in the USA.

[The Cane]

What do you think?

It's a typical AW overvaluing the pussy. Acting like she's doing you some favor or something, when really it would be you doing her the favor! She isn't offering shit. I know that. You know that. We all know that. You make sure she knows it too! Hit her with the cold, hard facts. Fuck her. No, better than that. Don't! Not at any price either. That's what I think.

[Naked Gunz]

She said she would come over for $300. I countered with $100 (no more) . What do you think?

Typical "My pussy is lined with gold" AW attitude. Is she giving more than one pop with max GFE? Hell no! Your price is fair. No effin way I pay her prices. A little self discipline goes a long way. That's the price of a lot of nice clothes, electronics, or whatever - for myself. At the end of the day it's just an orgasm. Feels just as good to rub one out.

[Rjsss212]

What do you think?

Dude,

I would never tell anyone who to or not to fuck or how much he should pay for pussy. How we spend our money is our own business. But personally, there isn't a 50 year old woman on the planet I'the pay to fuck. Period.

Even one of my all time favorites, Cindy Crawford, at her age, would only get a fine meal and some flowers (and she'the have to flirt A LOT and talk dirty and get me hard over desert).

If your friends still trickin' at 50 and can't even keep a job on the pole, I think I would throw her a few hundred every once in a while out of pity just so she can keep her lights on.

[D Cups]

Yeah this one contacted me on POF. http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...hmentid=208032 . I can't wait to choke on her cig smoke, listen to grandkid stories while paying for her dinner, and wait till the respectable third date before we fuck! Yummm Yum!

I don't even open my POF mail anymore. They're all beached whales like this one.

[D Cups]

Well guys, one of my favorite strippers in town here (Sacramento) got fired from the strip club (unknown reason) and she contacted me for a possible home visit. Mind you she is 50 years old with the body of a 20-something and large fake boobs on a skinny body. She always took care of me in the club and let me fuck her once there for $80 but normally just BJ / HJ. She said she would come over for $300. I countered with $100 (no more) and have not heard back and don't expect to. If she tries to hustle me up I'm going to let out the big secret: for $300, baby, I can get five CIM BBBJs with video from my home delivery brown sugar OR save it up for DR or PI and get all night long, no holes barred with eight to ten YOUNG babes with terrific bodies, less attitude, more GFE and hopefully on film. What do you think?

[Wolvenvacht]

Now this dude is going to lose everything just because he wanted to get laid: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...icle-1.2082263.

Maybe he will write a book about his career and downfall, sell the movie-rights and retire to SE Asia.

[SavePros321]

They killed it fellas. Forget about it, LOL (see attached photo).