American Women

[TellAll]

The concept is that it has made DeBeers a lot of damn money. Diamonds are intrinsically worthless. But with the right advertisement people will buy anything. So why wouldn't DeBeers put the word out that diamonds are a girl's best friend? I wonder how much of that $10 K Dickhead's friend was able to recoup.

So true it is all marketing. What else can you take used, put it in a different setting and then sell again as new? Guys wake up.

[Mr Enternational]

I have never understood the concept of engagement ring. A man spends thousands on a ring, gets on his knees and begs a woman to marry him. The relationship starts with her getting something of value she has yet to earn.

The ring is so she can show all her friends what a sucker you are. Usually the marraige is over before the ring is paid for since most men buy a ring that is more then he can afford.

I will agree with one thing you said, men are stupid when it comes to women. They know the rules are against them and still play.

The game. And they do it over and over until they have nothing left.

The concept is that it has made DeBeers a lot of damn money. Diamonds are intrinsically worthless. But with the right advertisement people will buy anything. So why wouldn't DeBeers put the word out that diamonds are a girl's best friend? I wonder how much of that $10 K Dickhead's friend was able to recoup.

[SavePros321]

SP well done. I also have no reason to be bitter. I never been married and never been fleeced. I just don't like American Women.

I served my country in my teens and 20's. Discovered mongering which changed my perspective. Got out and worked my way up the ladder of success.

Retired now and travel when I want and stay as long as I want. Headed to Pattaya next month.

I love the freedom.

Thanks TellAll. We have to stay winning!

And congratulations to you on what sounds like a very successful retirement: You are living the dream! Feel free to impart on us young'ins what it took to achieve such success. I'm sure having little to no consumer debt (credit cards, auto loans) and contributing to a 401K was part of the mix, correct?

[SavePros321]

Anyway, 12 more days in this country for me this time around, and then adios for at least a couple of years. Y'all have fun now!

Lucky SOB! Don't forget about the rest of us here on lock down in sex prison waiting for our parole date (next mongering trip), LOL.

[Dickhead]

Yeah, my douche bag friend spent $10k in 1995 dollars on the ring he bought for the b!tch he knew for I believe it was four days before marrying her. I got to say, I never thought homie had the stones to burglarize her place to get it back. It was funny. She did not know me but knew he was coming up to my town to see me. I took him to a strip club, he took off with a stripper and never went back, and within a week she had a restraining order on his ass. But he had the last laugh. Then the fucker took up with this woman who was a doctor and then decided to get her law degree. I think she makes a bit of money, wouldn't you? And that fucker hasn't even tried to work in years. Said it would just put them in a higher tax bracket. Oh yeah, and I forgot; his first wife, whom he knew for six weeks, left him for another woman.

Anyway, 12 more days in this country for me this time around, and then adios for at least a couple of years. Y'all have fun now!

[TellAll]

Well thankfully I've never been married or ever plan on being married. I also do not have any kids by any AW's.

As far as blaming AW's for my bad choices in life, I am sure you are speaking in general (not directly to me). So far I've done everything right: served my country (did not fall into the trap of marrying my high school sweetheart or the first chick I met right out of boot camp, as did my fellow military brethren); got money for college; worked full time AND went to school full time while keeping my head low, which did not do me any favors as far as my dating or sex life was concerned (actually, I found out about mongering my 2nd year in college, so it was not too hard to stay focused and grind all semester and then go on a week-long bang-a-thon to the DR at the end of the semester); found a great paying job after college; and the rest is history.

I liken my trek to the song "30 Something" by Jay Z in where he says:

"30's the new 20 ni**a I'm so hot still
better broad, better auto mobile"

I was broke for most of my 20's while I was trying to finish school. I went to class by day, and was a security guard by night. You would think chicks would think it noble that a young guy with no kids or excess baggage was trying to better his lot in life by holding down a steady job while going to school to get his degree, but nope. If you weren't balling right then and there then they would not give you a second look. They were not interested in coming along for the long ride: they said "pick me up once you get there." Shit didn't start to turn around for me until my very late 20's and early 30's.

So am I somewhat bitter about AW over that? I was, until I found out about mongering.

The entire time I was in school I was like: "Man, just wait until I get my degree. Then I'll get the best chick and be living the American Dream (trophy wife, big-ass house, nice cars, kids)."

Mongering changed my perspective on all that shit. I realized I can have the best chick I want, when I want, for as long as I want, without the other bullshit that comes along with having a relationship. As long as my passport has not expired and has enough pages in it, I am good!

So for me, there is nothing to be bitter about when it comes to AW's. I only share my experiences with dealing with them. I've already written them off. When I look at my future there are no AW's present, and I am very content with that. In fact, the first opportunity I get to work for myself or do something that generates a nice chunk of passive income, I am out of here!

But until then, I am doing exactly what helped me get through college: grind, keep my head low, and rock out with my cock out in another country every other month or so.

Life is good!

SP well done. I also have no reason to be bitter. I never been married and never been fleeced. I just don't like American Women.

I served my country in my teens and 20's. Discovered mongering which changed my perspective. Got out and worked my way up the ladder of success.

Retired now and travel when I want and stay as long as I want. Headed to Pattaya next month.

I love the freedom.

[TellAll]

=These are no new facts, its been this way since marriage has began. So whose fault is it. You asked her to marry you and probably bought an expense ring when you did it. And now you're bitter and blaming AW for your bad choices in life.==

I have never understood the concept of engagement ring. A man spends thousands on a ring, gets on his knees and begs a woman to marry him. The relationship starts with her getting something of value she has yet to earn.

The ring is so she can show all her friends what a sucker you are. Usually the marraige is over before the ring is paid for since most men buy a ring that is more then he can afford.

I will agree with one thing you said, men are stupid when it comes to women. They know the rules are against them and still play.

The game. And they do it over and over until they have nothing left.

[Dickhead]

In the US, how bad you get fucked really does depend a lot on what state you are in. In my state, whoever has the higher income will be paying child support to the other, assuming 50/50 custody, and alimony (please to call it "maintenance") is fairly limited. But guys don't check on that stuff before they get married. For example, how many of you who own houses know if you live in a recourse state or not? A recourse state means that if you don't pay your mortgage, and the bank forecloses, and the house doesn't sell for as much as the mortgage, they can come after you for the difference. In non-recourse states, they have to take the foreclosure sale proceeds and go away. It kinda makes a difference, if you own a house. Do you even know if you live in a community property state? Similarly too many mongers don't educate themselves about the prostitution, immigration, etc. , laws where they monger. Yeah, a lot of the guys on this board know enough to check up on that kind of stuff, but think of all the other jackoffs running around out there.

[ThatGuy865]

When a woman stays at home, most of the time it is a conscious choice to not have to work and be supported and live comfortably. She knows what the implications for her future working prospects are. Why in that case should a court decide to reward her for years of idleness. That is totally ridiculous and the rules are in fact stacked against men.

All these men are saying is that the rules are stacked against men. Why do you think women are so happy to get married? So that they have the power to blackmail you in the future, what does a man get out of it?

Unfortunately it is NOT the view of men who made the rules. When a woman stays at home. It is not only by her choice it is a mutual agreement. Therefore the man also agreed that her part in the relationship would be the handling of the "Home" responsibilities.

Basically the man is agreeing that her half of the responsibility of the "Contract of Marriage" signed by both the woman and man is the home.

The monetary value awarded is based upon those years of service and level of lifestyle she put in at home. It was a mutual agreement. If the man felt she should contribute money instead of her time at home they should have discussed it and found her a job. But the two agreed and chose that route.

Would it be fair that after a 15 or 20 yr marriage, a woman who has stayed at home all those years have to immediately earn a living with no experience. She should start with nothing.

If that's the case then the guy should not get married in America. And if he does. He cannot blame it on the woman. As it is a system setup by men. And upheld mostly by men.

But I guess some need to vent their frustration.

I'm no AW advocate. I just don't believe any one country has better than women than another. All women are equally frustrating. Each does it in their own way.

[SavePros321]

These are no new facts, its been this way since marriage has began. So whose fault is it. You asked her to marry you and probably bought an expense ring when you did it. And now you're bitter and blaming AW for your bad choices in life.

Well thankfully I've never been married or ever plan on being married. I also do not have any kids by any AW's.

As far as blaming AW's for my bad choices in life, I am sure you are speaking in general (not directly to me). So far I've done everything right: served my country (did not fall into the trap of marrying my high school sweetheart or the first chick I met right out of boot camp, as did my fellow military brethren); got money for college; worked full time AND went to school full time while keeping my head low, which did not do me any favors as far as my dating or sex life was concerned (actually, I found out about mongering my 2nd year in college, so it was not too hard to stay focused and grind all semester and then go on a week-long bang-a-thon to the DR at the end of the semester); found a great paying job after college; and the rest is history.

I liken my trek to the song "30 Something" by Jay Z in where he says:

"30's the new 20 ni**a I'm so hot still
better broad, better auto mobile"

I was broke for most of my 20's while I was trying to finish school. I went to class by day, and was a security guard by night. You would think chicks would think it noble that a young guy with no kids or excess baggage was trying to better his lot in life by holding down a steady job while going to school to get his degree, but nope. If you weren't balling right then and there then they would not give you a second look. They were not interested in coming along for the long ride: they said "pick me up once you get there." Shit didn't start to turn around for me until my very late 20's and early 30's.

So am I somewhat bitter about AW over that? I was, until I found out about mongering.

The entire time I was in school I was like: "Man, just wait until I get my degree. Then I'll get the best chick and be living the American Dream (trophy wife, big-ass house, nice cars, kids)."

Mongering changed my perspective on all that shit. I realized I can have the best chick I want, when I want, for as long as I want, without the other bullshit that comes along with having a relationship. As long as my passport has not expired and has enough pages in it, I am good!

So for me, there is nothing to be bitter about when it comes to AW's. I only share my experiences with dealing with them. I've already written them off. When I look at my future there are no AW's present, and I am very content with that. In fact, the first opportunity I get to work for myself or do something that generates a nice chunk of passive income, I am out of here!

But until then, I am doing exactly what helped me get through college: grind, keep my head low, and rock out with my cock out in another country every other month or so.

Life is good!

[Delta Indigo]

Actually. I've been married twice. And both divorces ended without me being fleeced.

I state from not only my experience but for many that I know. Sure some had to sell the house and split the proceeds. But that is known.

The AVG person does not pay alimony any longer if the wife has a job. If your wife was a "stay at home" wife during your marriage then you knew you would have to pay alimony when divorced. What do you expect. She's been out of the work force for years.

These are no new facts, its been this way since marriage has began. So whose fault is it. You asked her to marry you and probably bought an expense ring when you did it. And now you're bitter and blaming AW for your bad choices in life.

I was married once, not entirely out of love, but a willingness to help someone out. Now in the end I got out scot free and she did not try to fleece me and asked for nothing. But knowing that the rules are stacked against me made me very nervous at the time.

I supported her through her education, by supporting her financially, she never supported me financially at all, and by proof reading and writing her papers. There is no way she would have graduated with the average that she had and gone on to a high paying job later on without my help.

I did have investments abroad. Yes she stayed and home and I supported her, then why should she be able to fleece me during a divorce. Why should she be able to take what I worked hard for while I was supporting her and enabling her to earn her own living?

In the end she felt too guilty to try to fleece me and did not ask for anything, but had she tried the courts would have taken her side. Now like the other men on this forum I will be extremely cautious about marriage and so forth. Yes the rules are known, but they are nonetheless stacked against men.

When a woman stays at home, most of the time it is a conscious choice to not have to work and be supported and live comfortably. She knows what the implications for her future working prospects are. Why in that case should a court decide to reward her for years of idleness. That is totally ridiculous and the rules are in fact stacked against men.

All these men are saying is that the rules are stacked against men. Why do you think women are so happy to get married? So that they have the power to blackmail you in the future, what does a man get out of it?

[ThatGuy865]

I'm sure ThatGuy865 is a cool guy in person, but he displays way too many Beta Male qualities. I almost want to believe that the real TG865 has moved on from ISG and somehow his wife / ex has commandeered his account and is posting this stuff, LOL.

Actually. I've been married twice. And both divorces ended without me being fleeced.

I state from not only my experience but for many that I know. Sure some had to sell the house and split the proceeds. But that is known.

The AVG person does not pay alimony any longer if the wife has a job. If your wife was a "stay at home" wife during your marriage then you knew you would have to pay alimony when divorced. What do you expect. She's been out of the work force for years.

These are no new facts, its been this way since marriage has began. So whose fault is it. You asked her to marry you and probably bought an expense ring when you did it. And now you're bitter and blaming AW for your bad choices in life.

[SavePros321]

This is an article a wingman sent me yesterday that may be of interest to some:

http://www.takenbythewind.com/2010/0...ally-that-bad/

Look at whatelse I found in the comments section:

October 27, 2011 Irene
I am a Colombian girl studying in the US, back in Colombia and while I lived in Europe, I was able to make many connections with women; I am straight but women were always open to me being a woman and actually trying to be friends, it's here in the USA where women according to my experience tend to be ABSOLUTELY AND TOTAL BITCHES!! Sorry but I have never been exposed to such megalomaniacs, competitive, bitchy, angry, psycho, fake, plastic women in my entire life!!! American men on the other hand, strike me as a bit dumb, but very easygoing and open to new people and experiences. I have NOT had a problem finding dates in America, in fact I found my fiance here, an all American boy from Wisconsin who treat me like a princess, but guess what American women..... I EARNED THAT RESPECT AND LOVE. In my country you GIVE IN ORDER TO RECEIVE; I work out because in my country a woman is expected to stay in shape, I wear dresses, skirts, make up because I ENJOY BEING A WOMAN.... women here don't understand the concept of feminity and think feminity = weakness. For example I love cooking, my mom taught me how to cook because it's a mother - daughter bonding thing in my culture, and guess what? I cook for me and my American boyfriend, to the point he now wants to learn how to cook... good luck finding an American girl who can coo, most of his friends dating American women just get chinese or pizza while the slob of an American girlfriend sits there in her pijamas waiting for the food delivery to arrive while drinking beer....... women here have been nothing but evil towards me, and it's because of how I dress, of how I act, they assume I am being fake and pretensious but this is who I am.... I can sense a deep sense of jeaousy in them because they think that by me being feminine and enjoying catering to my man, I am being a fake girl! Let's not even talk about sex, American women have so many hang ups and think Sex is a tool to control men..... it's pathetic but I was branded as a **** because I said I enjoy pleasing my man and being pleased by him. NO WONDER AMERICAN WOMEN OVERSEAS HAVE SUCH A DIFFICULTY FINDING MEN!

[Dickhead]

I am divorced but she did not take me to the cleaners and I am not bitter. Now, why did it work out that way? Because we actually knew each other for several years, and had lived together, before we decided to get married. A lot of these guys who are complaining about how terrible their wives are / were only knew them for a couple of months. I actually have two friends who have each married women they knew for only a few weeks, or in one of the marriages, a few days. And, believe it or not, both of these guys have done this twice! We are talking about college educated people here. I only knew one of the four wives, and she is the biggest ***** I have ever met, ugly to boot, and doesn't like sex. One of the other wives called me on the phone after he ran off with a stripper. I had never met this woman. She called me every name in the book and threatened me with everything in the book. I just laughed. The only thing even remotely funny was that he proceeded to burglarize her apartment and steal the ring back. I do give him points for that. The other guy, who married the ugly one, I asked him why he did it. His answer? "I just wanted to try something different. " Hello? How is it different? Oh, I know. The first woman you met and married after six weeks was good looking and rich. Shoulda stuck with that.

American men are stupid about women, gullible as hell, unwilling to learn from their mistakes, and live in a dream world.

[SavePros321]

This is an article a wingman sent me yesterday that may be of interest to some:

http://www.takenbythewind.com/2010/0...ally-that-bad/

From the comments section, it sounds like the answer is still a resounding YES, LOL:

January 10,2011 Joe:

I'm married to one of those ultra shallow, no good, lazy, American women. I find NOTHING good about them in general. American women are gross and unladylike. They are greedy and extremely self-centered. If people dig in Google they will find a million websites and pages, blogs and postings about how horrible they are. Catch phrase "American Women suck". If I could find a way to unload this rotten ***** I'm with now and get a foreign girl, I'd do it in a second!