American Women

[Mystic Pimp]

Honestly, if it's just about sex, I'm not out in public with 99.9% of these women anyway. That's a tough question about the cars, but yeah, balance is necessary.

[Sinanju Master]

Mystic Pimp

I'll agree that "performance" in the bedroom is a must, BUT what if your other half looks like Roseanne Barr? Myself, I need to strike a balance. The "Alternative Chick" option may seem great, but remember she's an AMERICAN CHICK and may respond negatively if you find things are less than what you consider perfect and you wanna bail. I can't really berate you for that anyway, 'cos I've been thinking of that lately myself.

Getting back to the performance issue: Do you want to be seen in public with a rusted out Ford Pinto body that houses a Ferrari engine, or do you want to be seen with a Ferrari body that contains a Yugo engine?

[Mystic Pimp]

Sinanju Master:

Looks are good, but how women perform in the bedroom determines whether I want it from them more than once or consistently. As far as being looked at as a "****", it seems only the American women involved in alternative lifestyles can deal with the label. Recently I've been looking more to get laid in the US thru other means than the hooker or escort. The "Professor" has movitaved me (in his listener demographic) to try alternative methods to play around without commitment.

MP

[Sinanju Master]

Mystic Pimp

I'm the poster who mentioned Tom Leykis and man, listening to him makes me understand what Moses must have felt like when he received the Ten Commandment! LOL

I agree with you ALMOST 100% regarding the concept of the chick who is NOT a supermodel trying harder. HOWEVER Tom said that a chick who is NOT supermodel attractive generally has a better head on her shoulders and is a tougher prospect to lay. On the other side of the coin, a listener called in and said to Tom: "So you're saying that the more a woman looks like a supermodel, the DUMBER she is"? His response was: "BINGO!". I was fucking floored and I almost veered off the highway from laffing so hard!

The ordinary chick has to compensate by developing her inner self and brains and therefore is more wary, while supermodel can be taken in by a flash of cash, or huge cojones on a guy's part. ON THE OTHER HAND, my master (martial arts instructor) said that when he was in college, he sometimes got by by fucking ugly chicks who would pay the rent, etc in exchange for "services rendered". But I digress...

Tom Leykis pretty much advocates, NOT fucking American women because of the lack of satisfactory return on "investment". They don't wanna be construed as sluts and make a guy jump through hoops on the HOPES of MAYBE getting laid. Myself, I'm just tired of the God-damned head games they play and the false indignation they display when they discover you wanna get into their panties.

[Mystic Pimp]

I think this is the first time I've read this section. Very informative. I saw someone mention the Tom Leykis Show. I have listened to it on and off the past few weeks. It is pretty hilarious. But there is some truth in some of what he preaches. For instance, most American guys are out to get laid (I know I am). With the general prudishness of American women, is it any wonder that American men are going for that international flavor?

The only thing I will say that most of you won't agree with is that looks aren't everything. I think an average looking chick is willing to try harder in the bedroom than a supermodel-like chick. Quality is important.

MP

[Smut Villain]

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Quote by CBGBConnisur:

"That argument definitely makes sense, since large corporations and wealthy people are looking to cheap labor to get a better return on their investment elsewhere, us as individuals can do the same and look elsewhere for a better value for our hard earned money."

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Some of us, such as yourself, are already doing that. And loving every minute of it (as you seem to be).

BTW, when I spoke of "lower costs" in my last post, I wasn't speaking strictly in monetary terms; Westernized women can cost a guy in several other ways (just ask any divorcee). Child custody battles, degradation of self-esteem (in some mens' cases), the pressure of having to meet unrealistic expectations, lopsided expectations in relationships (e.g., she has all the rights and none of the responsibilities); I could go on, but the subject has been examined in this forum ad infinitum.

I guess our point is that when Western women go from being objects of desire to becoming leading sources of stress (at least for me) then it's probably time to look for greener pastures.

[CBGBConnisur]

That argument definitely makes sense, since large corporations and wealthy people are looking to cheap labor to get a better return on their investment elsewhere, us as individuals can do the same and look elsewhere for a better value for our hard earned money.

[Smut Villain]

CBGB,

I sometimes like to compare the act of "going abroad for a broad" (get it ? ) to the current phenomenom of outsourcing jobs. Companies want to increase profits by decreasing overhead, so they look for cheaper labor elsewhere (i.e. Mexico, India, China, et al). American workers cost more because of minimum wage laws, unions, benefits, etc.

American pussy has the same drawbacks, IMHO. They've raised the price of their pussies, so it only makes sense that those of us who know that other lower-cost options (I'm not necessarily talking money when I say "lower cost") exist would want to explore those options. In this case, Western men are getting a lower return for the investment required of them by Westernized women, so "outsourcing" our wallets/dicks/affections only seems like a logical reaction.

As far as our general disillusionment with Western women is concerned I think we might be singing the same tune.

[CBGBConnisur]

Another way to look at it is that the US is pussy poor. I've never seen an online forum that has extolled the virtues of American women over the rest of the world. Out of the hundreds of posts here I have never found one saying anything positive about the American female. And often on this board, I have found that American women seem to be some kind of measure of a poor experience with women. Anyway the pattern of American men looking outside of the US for women has been around for decades.

One time I got to see a perfect side by side comparison in Amsterdam, when there was group of Dutch women and a group of American female tourists standing side by side at a trolley stop. The difference was like night and day. I've seen the same in Australia where almost all the ugly women of child bearing age turn out to be either an American or British tourist.

[Smut Villain]

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Quote by CBGBConnisur:

".... I have to say for an American women to catch my attention she will have to move mountains. There are so many beautiful, gorgeous, sexy, women outside of the US."

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Amen to that, brother!

[CBGBConnisur]

I can say that I have been to every corner of the globe and have sampled the women of each corner, and I have to say for an American women to catch my attention she will have to move mountains. There are so many beautiful, gorgeous, sexy, women outside of the US.

[Smut Villain]

CBGB,

Yeah, I feel you on that one. When I did time in the Navy our ship stopped in Melbourne and Cairnes while on deployment. It seemed like the second we stepped on shore, the panties started dropping!

If I didn't have such a weakness for Latinas, I'd make Ozzie my next stop !

[CBGBConnisur]

I actually live in Australia, and the typical Australian guy drinks a lot of beer(These guys DRINK), hangs out with a rowdy bunch, gets into bar fights and plays rugby. A lot of the local women hate this because it is so commonplace among Australian males. So when an American comes into the picture the Aussie women stick to them like bees on honey. It's incredibly easy to flirt with Australian women, when they hear your North American accent, its gets their attention.

[Mike12]

On the Subject of Myopic Americans

From my observation MTV has a huge influence now on the way people think here in America, especially younger ones. Every female now just wants to have fun a la Brittany Spears, wear goofy hats like Ashton Kutcher, get jiggy like Jay-Z, cop an attitude like Eminem, and just in general make a materialistic ass of themselves. The crowds out in Times Sq by MTV studios are unbelievable . The sheeple mill around on Broadway trying to catch someone famous look outside the window from up high.

There is a hotel in Manhattan where some Japanese or Korean airlines flight crews stay at. To watch 30 lovely Asian chicks in their uniforms get off the bus is a beautiful thing. Anyway, there are some young homeless, hustler, shelter types that hang around the hotel and prey on these girls. All they do is play the rapstar role and these Japanese chicks fall hook lie and sinker for it. All because the image is on MTV nonstop. Some of these dudes just got out of Rikers too and score these broads like this.

Another thing to watch out for lately is this trendy new gay thing among women here. Madonna kissed Brittany so now it's the cool thing for girls to be with girls. When the fad ends they just go back to being straight like Ann Heche and a few other ones who play both sides of the fence. I really don't like the idea of having a girlfriend or wife that may have strapped on a dildo or ate some chocha because MTV portrays it as cool.

[Smut Villain]

Sporadic,

Well, yeah, that's kind of what I meant by "myopic" Americans; they have no idea that anything exists outside of our country unless Tom Brokaw, Dan Rather or Wolf Blitzer brings it to their attention.

Even then, they're usually getting only one side of the story.