American Women

[Cash Works]

smut,

i'm not entirely sure what your question is. if you're asking if i agree that americans should travel abroad i would have to say "hell yes". i had friends in college who were born and raised here in north carolina and had only been out of the state on one or two occasions. others who were a bit more "worldly" had made it as far as canada, mexico (either a border town for a couple hours or one of the resorts like cancun or cozumel) or if they were extremely well travelled, they had actually made it as far as western europe - once.

years ago, i was at the american consulate in lagos, nigeria to get some extra pages put in my passport. there was a group of highschool girls there for some reason, one was going on about all her travels (this was her second trip out of the us which apparently gave her status over the other tarts, most of whom had never left wherever they were from - great first trip - "welcome to nigeria, what do you have for me?"). when she was catching her breath, another girl asked what i was doing there i tossed my passport to her and said i needed more pages. the status chicks jaw dropped as they looked at all the stamps. if they weren't all ****d and highly chaperoned, i'm pretty sure i could have had my way with the lot.

with all this first hand knowledge of other cultures (actually, lack of knowledge), these people are somehow able to form opinions about the rest of the world and in some cases help make decisions about how our country deals with the rest of the world. it never ceases to amaze me how ignorant my learned neighbors can be.

i firmly believe that americans should get out of north america on a regular basis and actually see the world as it really is, not as it is portrayed by the network news. whether people travel for sex or for general educational purposes doesn't really make a difference. they just need to go and see the world so they can form their own opinions and not have to rely entirely on dan rather or peter jennings.

a brasillian once told me "america is hope, it is how the world might be in the future, europe is educational, it is where we can see the past, the rest of the world is sorrow because it is how it really is in the present". there are some flaws to this statement, but the general idea is that people need to travel, but don't limit yourself to the "tourist destinations".

enough ranting.

cw

[Mike12]

cbgb,

had the pleasure of escorting a scores stripper around town the other day. doing a favor for a friend. she is from another city. 22 years old, smokes like a chimney, tried to puff some weed in my car from the airport, feet all up on my dashboard, drinking like a fish. wanted to take stay in $500 a nite hotel suites for 4 nites because that's where britany spears stays at. told her to go to the china club, cbgb's, speed, etc etc. was getting the feeling she thought maybe she was doing me a favor by letting me pick her up and drive her around nyc like a chaperone. nice enough girl, just total turn off with the materialistic attitude and bad habits.

[Mike12]

Sinanju Master,

Would love to get married if I could find the right chick without all the nonsense that goes with it. Tell my married friends they don't know the half about being single. Too many games to play and money to be spent on someone that don't appreciate it. Not to mention you don't know the chicks pedigree. Have seen married men get more play then single guys anyway. Women love married men.

At the convenience store near my house there is a pretty married indian lady I always chat up. New to the country. She likes that we talk about Indian food and her culture. Brings cooked food for me. Asked her if she had any sisters and she said I should go to India to meet Indian girls. Said they all like to make their husbands happy and cook for them. My point being is that I have alot of respect for her and would love to get a real women like her.

By the way, Sinanju is a small seaside village in N. Korea, you must know Chiun then!

[Smut Villain]

Sinanju Master, Mike12, Cash Works, et al,

I've been wondering... with immigration, the internet, WTO, and other things going on in the 21st century, the world has gotten a lot smaller. You guys think that makes it easier for Western guys (such as ourselves) to see all the other options out there, and that Western women behave quite differently from their global counterparts? I know I would not have had these feelings of general disillusionment had I not practically traveled halfway around the world (thanks to my previous occupation); those travels showed me (up close and personally) that things with women don't have to be like this. I think every man should visit an "old-world" country at least once in his life, as it is quite the eye-opening experience (at least it was for me).

But enough about me; what do you guys think?

P.S. Sinanju, this isn't the ONLY website where Western men have vented about the lopsided dating scene; if you look further, you'll find that dudes are waking the fuck up all over the place and coming to pretty much the same conclusions.

[Sinanju Master]

Mike12,

Again you hit the nail on the head. I remember when I was much younger, I thought that the greatest thing in the world would be to get married. (OK, guys, I know that comment drew a loud gasp from my brethren, especially those of you who know me as the Great "Ameri-basher" where females are concerned! Heh heh heh... Ameri-basher.... I like that. anyway, I hope that comment doesn't cause any of you to throw custard pies at me Three Stooges-style!) It was after I caught wind of this website and saw that the number of guys who are fed up with the BS of "WESTERNIZED" women are LEGION that I said to myself: "Hey, why would I wanna enter into a situation where I shell out a prince's ransom for a rock that I'll never own, WILLINGLY commit to a situation where I will metephorically SLAVE AWAY for the rest of my life while she would be allowed to sit on her ass (which would probably grow very large from a lack of exercise or meaningful work), be subject to the whims of a one-women pussy cartel, AND agree to give her HALF of all my worldly possessions and wealth, while the courts nod in agreement with a blank-eyed stare"? FUCK NO! If my investigative work determines that said chick has no integrity and wants to dig for gold, she's down the toilet qucker than a fresh stool sample!

(waiting for the barrage of custard pies...)

[Smut Villain]

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Quote by Cash Works:

"So, the gold-digging is definitely not restricted to American women or Americanized women."

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True again, CW; but when I say "American" women, I'm really talking about "Westernized" women in general. Hell, guys in England, for example, see the same problems we do (I know - I've been there). In all fairness, though, I should probably start using the term "Western" in lieu of "American" .

I feel for those Scandinavian dudes in your example, though. I used to be in the Navy and I've heard - and SEEN- situations like this all the damn time! It makes you wonder why the fuck anyone would get married (in Western societies), knowing from the start that wedlock is a one-sided deal.

[Dickhead]

I have done two different things in order to be able to expatriate myself. #1, I got a job with an American company working overseas. #2, I got a job I could do over the internet from anywhere in the world. So, I don't have to fuck with any residency issues. Only problem is, I don't like job #1's location and #2 doesn't pay all that much. But #1 says they are going to send me somewhere else pretty soon. If I don't like where they are going to send me, I will then quit and make do with #2.

It's not that hard. Use the "Nike Method"; just do it!

[Mike12]

Sinanju Master,

Good observation about the ROI concept. It's a damn shame it has to be like that alot of times. What irks me is you can't expect to get anywhere with some of these chicks by being yourself and doing the right thing. You have to play the role with a flashy car, be superficial and act like you are cool in an MTV defined kind of way.

I have been pondering what it is in the culture here that causes the women to play games and bug out the way they do. I had chicks that were from El Salvador, Honduras, DR and Asia flake out on me and I thought about what the hell happened there. Then I realized the common thread of them all being here longer than 2, 3 years. I'm just trying to define exactly what in the U.S. turns these girls into gameplaying beyotches at the drop of a dime.

Just some things to think about I guess.

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[Daddy Lows]

The accompanying information for said picture in last post. BTW, in all fairness, men are as bad as women. We all want what we don't have and if it's within reach, we scramble for it. On the other hand, American women [CodeWord140] me off every day. I think it starts with the whole idea of growing up hoping to meet the "one man" of her dreams and having the cookie-cutter life. You want to blame any one thing, I'd put it squarely on the perceived notion of social status, i.e. how much money (power is interchangeable here) has one got. That and little girls playing with Barbies.

Peace

[Daddy Lows]

This being a forum on women and how men relate with them, I think this fits in here. I was at the Getty Museum here in LA, California area last weekend and saw lots of POA. That's pieces of art. Heh. They were walking, talking, having fun, and some were bored. After staring at the walls a couple of times (my family was with me), I ditched them and spent the rest of the day looking and evaluating the women there. That's when I saw this painting and it kind of got to me.

Peace

[Travis Bickle 2]

CBGB, So once you got focused and determined, how did you do it? If you don't want to tell us, then just say so. BTW, you'd make a great polititican.

[Sinanju Master]

Mike12,

I hear ya. Your observations sound like the chick example I gave a few posts ago. What gets me scratching my head is when their "currency" becomes "devalued" and they can no longer even THINK of ensnaring such types. They then become bitter and blame others for their lack of flexibility. You hit the nail on the head regarding whom a monger should target. A plain chick (ATTRACTIVE, mind you, but plain in attitude, meaning that she's not of the type that thinks that her "goonya" is made of gold) who is practical-minded stands to make out MUCH better than these tunnel-visioned gold-digging cunts. I actually had a financial epiphany today. Generally, American women are like a bad investent: the RETURN on investment is inversely proportionate to the investment put into her.

I was listening to the national radio host Tom Leykis and he tells it like it IS regarding American women. In fact, he pretty much labeled them as manipulative b****es who fall far short of their overseas counterparts.

[Mike12]

CBGB,

I Work in Midtown Manhattan and used to be in The Fashion District. Know alot of chicks here that would rather work 16 hour days and turn 30 40 with nobody because no man fits their idea of the perfect guy. Now, to be their ideal man in NYC you gotta be a Yankees player, music industry type, corporate attorney, Bway actor, etc, etc, you know, fling alot of cash so the chick feels like she's the star of a Sex In the City episode. You are talking like a couple of hundred a nite here. They expect this, it is their norm. I know I been there.

I usually keep it real by checking chicks that work in Mcdonalds, the local cafe/deli, Macy's perfume/cologne counter, and the cleaning people in office buildings. Alot of these girls are rite off the plane from Peru, India, China, Guyana, The DR, and Albania. Really nice and sweet too. They appreciate a nice gentlemen and you can really score big in these situations. I like these scenarios since I can be recognized on my own merits and not my duckets. Here in NYC you need game to get by or you're assed out.

[Smut Villain]

CBGB,

I was trying to tell Pokey the same thing, but your post said it 1,000,000 times better than I could have!

[CBGBConnisur]

Mike, of course you're not going to get the time of day from anybody in New York. Women who come to New York usually have one thing on their mind, money. That's why the Donald got the attention of that model. When I was New York, I used to meet a lot of women from Europe and South America, they were all good looking and they were all a bunch of golddiggers. Most of them were blatant about it, this one woman from the Netherlands asked me straight up how much money I make a year and how much I had in the bank a few years back. It was funny because when I spent some time in Amsterdam, I met a lot of local women on the same level of beauty as her and none of them asked me those kinds of questions, and they were nowhere near as materialistic and demanding as she was. The point is that environment can have a lot to do with a woman's behavior and attitude, it also affects a man too. So in essence that is why New York is a lousy place to meet an ideal woman because the city is a very fast paced environment where a lot of money is changing hands. So, essentially you need to have a lot of money to get good dates regardless of your physical appearance and mental disposition. Even if you look like Brad Pitt, without a good source of income, dating in New York is tough.