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  1. #100

    Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy7  [View Original Post]
    Hi Guys,

    I'm planning for my first ever mongering trip & have a total budget of USD $3000. Being a novice, I'm unable to make out as in what all options / countries are open to me in this price. As far as girls / women are concerned, I like full-figured, slightly chubby, brown / black / tanned skin girls with black hair. One thing more I must tell you is that I'm total ass-worshiper & love to stay there. Along with teens & middle age girls I do want to experience some matures & real old women upto 65 yrs of age too. OK now I'm looking for some easy & affordable paid sex options rather than trying hard to have GF exp. All I need is flesh for money but with all dignity & respect towards every women I meet. Kindly please give me some choices as per your experiences. If for particular place I need to extend my budget then please let me know by how much. Looking forward to hear from you guys.

    Thanks
    Hello, Andy!

    If you like groupsex and gangbang action, then the lots and lots of Partytreffs, Gangbangclubs and bareback parties in Germany may offer a good and affordable choice for you. For details about what's available you might want to check my Bareback AO Party Calendar thread in the Germany Partytreff Clubs forum here on ISG. There's also a lot of information about various parties and locations in all other threads of that forum. I can recommend Spermagames, BareBackKreis, the apartment parties in Krefeld and Saskia-Farell-Parties from own experience. You can also expect to fuck some pornstars at some of these parties. Even american porn star Emma Starr will for 90 Euros be available to every guy at the filmed bareback gangbang at Spermastudio in Gelsenkirchen on June 28th and 29th. For slightly chubby, brown and tanned blackhaired girls you would be very pleased with many of the bulgarian and turkish gypsy girls at the various Krefeld-bareback-parties. At Oppumer Straße 6 in Krefeld you will find a mid-fifties blonde woman named Anna, who doesn't look that good to everyone, but who is extremely horny and likes it very rough. Black women are in short supply, although I recently found one "Schokobebe" named Vicky, who will be partying a lot in Germany from early July to mid September. Some Swingerclubs might also be worth a try, I know of two who do "Black&White" parties. But all that only if you like group action and don't mind being watched and watching everybody else.

    If you are only into one-on-one action behind closed doors, then you might want to consider checking the Germany FKK Clubs forum. But those clubs will be definitely more expensive than all the forementioned; so I guess in this case (1-on-1-action) you and your budget are better off somewhere else, like Thailand or South America.

    Price range for the parties will start from like 50 Euros for a Zhuzha-Gangbang to 60 Euros for a 10-hour bareback-party with 5 women at Opp6 in Krefeld to 80 Euros for 10 hours with the bulgarian bareback girls to 140 Euros (incl. HIV-test) for a Spermagames-AO-Gangbang with 3 to 8 women, including several german pornstars.

    Aside from the threads I mentioned before, the following websites might help. Check them out and then get back to me, if you need to. I also offer to tag along as a wingman, if and when you're in my area.

    So long, Swingerlover.

    www.spermagames.com

    www.spermastudio.de

    www.sexy-susi.info

    www.melaniemoon.com

    www.gb01.de

    www.fickanzeigen.net

    www.saskia-farell.com

    www.zhuzha.de

  2. #99
    Hi Guys,

    I'm planning for my first ever mongering trip & have a total budget of USD $3000. Being a novice, I'm unable to make out as in what all options / countries are open to me in this price. As far as girls / women are concerned, I like full-figured, slightly chubby, brown / black / tanned skin girls with black hair. One thing more I must tell you is that I'm total ass-worshiper & love to stay there. Along with teens & middle age girls I do want to experience some matures & real old women upto 65 yrs of age too. OK now I'm looking for some easy & affordable paid sex options rather than trying hard to have GF exp. All I need is flesh for money but with all dignity & respect towards every women I meet. Kindly please give me some choices as per your experiences. If for particular place I need to extend my budget then please let me know by how much. Looking forward to hear from you guys.

    Thanks

  3. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Nishu617  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for reply. But my question is still standing.

    Which country I can pick up nice blondes for cheap for full night, girl friend like experience.

    I don't want to try asians again. .
    I forgot to say that you can have nice blondes for a reasonable price in Berlin / Germany as well.

    But it will cost 100 Euros or more / hour.

  4. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Nishu617  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for info. Do you know any country for blondes and for cheap price sex?
    If you like blondes I would recommend Buenos Aires. Prices from about 20. 60 Euros depending on place and quality.

    I have been there 2 times and have seen a lot of really nice blonde girls in the apartments there

  5. #96
    Hi S. M,

    I don't remember I read you in Ukraine thread but however you are right about the foreigner factor in Ukraine and Russia, even if Ukrainians are different from Russians. It is a pity because a lot of good men could help Ukrainians with a serious relationship, but the golden time has gone and now they are actually interested in Slavic rich men only.

    I didn't understand about prices in Spain, more than 100 euros / first hour is not a good price for a country with a big crisis like Spain. Moreover it seems there are Mediterranean and dark-skinned women above-all.

    I read a lot about Germany but I am often scared when I see the pictures of workers (without make-up and Photoshop). There are a lot of good gangbangs but I would like to have a tete-a-tete overnight with no limits (all without, pissing drinking, double fisting, sado-maso) with a silk skinned beauty for not more than 300 euros, is it possible in Germany?

    I am reading something about Poland but information are not clear and I am afraid to find the same fraudulent situation like in Russia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spanish Main  [View Original Post]
    As ridiculous as this seems, given they are Western European countries, I think northern Germany (NRW) and the Costa del Sol offer the best value overall at the moment. My opinion is based on travel (Frankfurt and Dusseldorf are major hubs and usually have cheap flights from most places; southern Spain always has endless offers available) ; ease of travel when you get there; language and communication; safety; cost of hotels and restaurants; and cost and variety of girls. On the Costa you can often get a week's holiday with flights for 200 euro from most northern countries so, even if you don't live in the UK, for example, it may be cheaper to fly there and book a holiday in Spain. All done on the internet easily. Only the Costa del Sol though. Other costas are more expensive (CIMwise!)

    Read the partytreff treads in the German section as you will see that you can get 12 hours of fucking a great number of women for about 100 euro with food included. A good clean hotel will cost around 30 euro. I have been to partytreffs lots of times and had some amazing experiences,

    On the Costa del Sol you can see from my many reports and photos how good the value is. It is a holiday place so hotels are there by the thousand at all price levels but a good quality room can be had for 35 euro. It is sunny here too.

    Last year I was in Thailand. In Pattaya, the island, Bangkok and over near Burma. I posted reports here. I thought the girls did not offer good value. ST at 1000 baht plus 300 BF is about 30 euro. Plus all the girls look the same!

    Russian and Ukrainian girls are the prettiest and sexiest (I am an expert on this, believe me) but their attitude is highly variable and communication can be difficult. I love Ukrainians the best in the world but they can be an enormous pain up the arse. All prices, for everything, have the foreigner factor added too so I don't think overall value is good. Plus the visa and travel costs are very high.

    South America is exciting but a little dangerous if you don't understand it. Better for experienced travellers I think. And I speak Spanish. Paraguay has the prettiest girls for me.

    Good luck!

  6. #95

    I am not Law Enforcement or NGO, but

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocha Monger  [View Original Post]
    Recently it came to light that a long time ISG member is part of a pimping operation that steered newbies to hotels, KTVs, and other sex services establishments where they were charged inflated prices. The pimp received kickbacks from these establishments in addition to his pimp fees levied directly on the newbies. The individual did not disclose that he was, in fact, a pimp and that inflated rates were being charged as a result of his services offered under the guise of one ISG member helping another.

    ISG operates as a free and open forum where members can obtain information needed to locate women for sex without a middleman. This principle is in direct opposition to the interests of a pimp. Therefore we must ask the question, should cyber pimps be allowed on ISG?
    I think the punishment for pimps should be to have them experience a month for every girl / boy they have under their service getting banged by hung gay / TV dudes. I have no problem with individual chicks making decision to prostitute themselves. I do have a problem with other people (male or female) profiting without providing 1) adequate compensation and 2) freedom to quit. But back on point, I would hope ISG would not become a ad site for pimps like USSexGuide has become. I no longer frequent that site since all of the pictures are mostly posted by pimps and chicks. It becoming less of a forum for hobbyists and more of a place for providers and pimps to advertise services similar to craigslist or that other site I won't name.

  7. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by John Dough  [View Original Post]
    I calculate the cost per session when travelling as:

    [ (airfare / days there) + (daily hotel price) ]/number of sessions per day) + session price.

    If you spend $1,000 on airfare, $100 per night for hotel, $50 per session, you stay for 10 days and have one session per day, the real cost is $250 per session, not $50.

    The cheapest place for you is probably somewhere close to where you live.
    If you are travelling and calculating only for sex then you are right, I've made the same calculation like you before.

    But if I go to a foreign country with nice beaches, cultural things to discover and so on I think that this is worth some money, too.

    Especially in my age of 48 I can't have sex all day long anymore and there must be some other things to do.

  8. #93

    Cost Per Session

    I calculate the cost per session when travelling as:

    [ (airfare / days there) + (daily hotel price) ]/number of sessions per day) + session price.

    If you spend $1, 000 on airfare, $100 per night for hotel, $50 per session, you stay for 10 days and have one session per day, the real cost is $250 per session, not $50.

    The cheapest place for you is probably somewhere close to where you live.

  9. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Hossi36  [View Original Post]
    It's hard for me to understand how anyone can prefer the German Sex-Scene compared with Thailand, Buenos Aires or Brasil.
    Most of them are american, they are not used to legal prostitution and it is somehow exiting for them that you can find in some parts of germany more brothels than gasstations.

  10. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Spanish Main  [View Original Post]
    I think that Fuengirola offers the best overall value on the planet at the moment taking into account weather, variety of food, accommodation, safety and good quality sex.
    Nice to know, do you have any for more info on how / where to get this good quality sex in Fuengirola, thanks.

    I don't find Malaga and Marbella cheap.

  11. #90

    Not illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Nille Copenhagen  [View Original Post]
    I'm surprise that Spain is cheap for p4p, but is illegal right.
    Sex is available everywhere here on the Costa del Sol. There are lots of clubs from 150 to 400 euros an hour and privates from 60 to 250 an hour.

    It is not illegal to sell sex but it is illegal to pimp. Nobody cares though. I think that Fuengirola offers the best overall value on the planet at the moment taking into account weather, variety of food, accommodation, safety and good quality sex.

    The only thing I would like to see here is the Blackbeards in the Dominican Republic experience where you can be next to the pool in the sun and have a dozen girls on tap all day. A bit expensive but great fun.

    The equivalent here is to be in a nice hotel and pop out to a piso every time you feel the urge. You are always within a fifteen minute walk of a 30 euro CIM if you plan it right.

  12. #89

    About Germany

    Sorry, but forgot to tell about Germany:

    I've read a lot of posts about having good and cheap mongering experiences in Germany.

    It's hard for me to understand how anyone can prefer the German Sex-Scene compared with Thailand, Buenos Aires or Brasil.

    But maybe this is because I am german, too.

    Surely there are a lot of beautiful girls to be found in Germany, but found them less girlfriend-like as in the other countries mentioned above.

    P4P Sex ist business everywhere, of course I know that. But the point is how strong you feel that.

    Prices for just having sex are cheap in Germany. But if you want to have a really good quality you have to pay a lot more than in Brasil, BA or Thailand.

  13. #88
    I live in Germany and have visitet Bangkok, Phuket, Buenos Aires, Sao Paulo, Salvador (Brasil) for mongering in the last few years.

    My opinion about prices and the value you get:

    Bangkok: Too crowdy for me, but of course an amazing city for mongering (not really cheap, but ok)

    Phuket: Cheapest sex + living costs including nice beaches. I've found no better value for my money in the world. Difficult to talk with the grls more than the basics.

    Buenos Aires: Best looking girls; not expensive, but Phuket is cheaper. Spanish is easier to learn than Thai.

    Sao Paulo: Expensive, dangerous (if you don't know the city) , but a wide range of really good looking girls from Brasil, Japan, Argentina. Who are very open for sexual adventures.

    Salvador: Best Girlfriend-sex. If you like black women this is the place for you, but it has become an expensive place if you pay in Euro or Dollar.

    Will go to Spain this year and report later.

  14. #87
    We should make an effort to put together a list of the average prices you will pay in each country (in local currency).

    For example: In prague, you can get cheaper sex and you can get expensive sex, but the going rate for 1 hour of fucking in Prague is 1500 CZK. Sure, you can find a few for 1200 and 1100, but 1500 is by far the usual. Any monger with a map and internet access can walk out of the hotel and find a privat apartment with an acceptable looking girl who will fuck him for 1500 without any negotiation.

    Let's try and share this type of info on the going rate for cheap and cheerful, no hassle sex in each country. So we can tell at a glance what to expect at our next mongering destination.

    Czech Republic. Prague. Privat Apt.

    30mins = 1000 CZK = 40 Euro = $51 USD.

    1 hour = 1500 CZK = 60 Euro = $76 USD.

    Poland. Warsaw. Privat Apt

    1 hour = 200 zloty = 46 Euro = $60 USD.

    Germany.

    FKK = 50 entry + 50 euro per 30 mins = 100 Euro = $130.

    Partytreff (fuck all you want) = 100 euro = $130.

    Pauschalclub / Harem (fuck all you want) = 100 or 150 euro = $130 or $195.

    Ireland. Dublin. Private Apartment.

    30mins = 100 Euro = $130 USD.

    1 hour = 200 Euro = $260 USD.

    Indonesia. Batam.

    LT = 400k Barfine + 100k tip = 500k IDR = 43 Euro = $55 USD.

    Thailand. Bangkok.

    ST = 1000 baht = 25 Euro = $32 USD.

    LT = 2000 baht = 50 Euro = $64 USD.

    Maylasia. Kulala Lumpur.

    LT = 300 Malaysian ringgits = 73 Euro = $96 USD.

    Can anyone correct me if I'm wrong on these prices (Thailand and Maylasia especially) ,

    Also, please add information for more countries like:

    Vietnam, Cambodia, Philippines, Spain, Italy etc.

  15. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Spanish Main  [View Original Post]
    Read the partytreff treads in the German section as you will see that you can get 12 hours of fucking a great number of women for about 100 euro with food included. A good clean hotel will cost around 30 euro. I have been to partytreffs lots of times and had some amazing experiences,
    I agree,

    Germany has many sex options, flatrate clubs like Partytreffs, one price and you can fuck all day long.

    P4p is available in every German city / town.

    Escorts, Private apt. FKK club, Gangbang, sexparties, from 35€. So any guy rich or poor can get laid here.

    Almost everything is legal and safe.

    But you might miss the longtime GFE, like in Asia, where you can hangout with the same girls for a few days or weeks.

    I'm surprise that Spain is cheap for p4p, but is illegal right.

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