Safe Sex

[Rubber Nursey]

On Deck - Just to add to Degano's post re: STDs from BBBJ. Like Degano said, the chance of you contracting HIV/AIDS while getting a blowjob is slim to none. However, you can very, VERY easily catch herpes, which is an extremely common INCURABLE virus. Also, if the girl giving the BBBJ has gonorrhoea of the throat - which is highly likely is she makes a habit of giving BBBJs! - you can also contract gonorrhoea.

And as Degano pointed out, BBBJs are much more dangerous for the girl doing the blowing. So when a girl offers you a BBBJ, knowing full well that she's putting herself at great risk of disease, the question you should be asking yourself is ...WHY DOESN'T SHE CARE????

Could it be that she already has numerous nasty infections and couldn't care less about catching another one?

[Rubber Nursey]

stalin - [CodeWord111]. always a good idea after a condom break. peeing in the shower while you wash your penis kills two birds with one stone. obviously there is a lot less risk involved with a condom breakage for men than there is for women, but if you are really concerned, you could go straight to a doctor/clinic/hospital and get a dose of precautionary antibiotics. most importantly - don't ever be too 'ashamed' to tell the truth to a doctor. don't be afraid to say that you were having sex with a girl you don't know too well and that the condom broke. they can't treat you properly if they don't have all the facts.

[Stalin]

What is the best thing to do in case of condom breakage?

Of course, first what one might think about is to take penis out and take a shower. Are there any other things one can do to reduce the consequent risks?

[Erik]

Thanks very much for the info. I think I am going to have the 3 blisters removed.

[Degano]

hello on deck,

here is what i have been taught:

1. the risk is minimal to none for cbj for both receiver and giver. with bbbj, the risk increase dramatically for the giver. if you have no lesions, no inflammation, no breakage of skin/mucous membranes on penis, and there is no damage inflicted by the mouth of the giver, then again the risk is minimal to you. otoh, the giver is potentially playing with her life because she may have lesions in her mouth or other openings caused by brushing, eating food, or whatever else that leave her susceptible to all sorts of stds.

2. due to the last sentence above, yes, the risk is raised dramatically to the giver, not the receiver.

3. while holding the tip of the condom, roll the condom off with the other hand until it is loose enough that gentle tugging can release it. dispose of it, wash your hands carefully (meaning spend some time and rub well under running water with soap), then wash your penis. then take a [CodeWord134] to flush the urethra.

hope this helps.

degano

[Raider]

hello everybody my first time posting in this section.i have a few questions if you'll could help answer i would greatly appreciate it.

1] can one get aids from a bj and what are the types pf std's one can get with bbbj .
2] does coming in the mouth raise the level of risk in anyway .
3] after sex when one pulls the condom off i'm sure theres some vaginal fluid on the condom.is there a safe or certain way to pull off the condom to avoid it from maybe touching ones [CodeWord134] hole .

thanks

on deck

[Eclipse]

Eric,

Here's a brief overview. It is from a urology web site. I think it is relatively straight forward and understandable.

Overview:
Molluscum contagiosum is a viral infection that produces small, painless blisters that may, at first, resemble genital warts. It may cause serious complications in people with immunodeficiency disorders (e.g., AIDS).

Incidence and Prevalence:
Molluscum contagiosum accounts for fewer than 3% of STDs in the United States. It usually occurs in people 20 to 40 years old.

Causes:
The disease is most often spread through direct skin-to-skin contact. Transmission through shared items (e.g., towels, gym equipment) occurs infrequently in adults. Scratching, picking, or breaking the blisters can spread the infection to other areas of the body. Molluscum contagiosum also is spread through sexual contact and commonly affects the pubic area, groin, thighs, buttocks, and external genitalia.

Infected children often spread the disease by scratching the blisters and touching one another; blisters usually appear on the face. Salivary transmission occurs among young children.

Signs and Symptoms:
Blisters, or papules, usually appear about 6 weeks after exposure but may appear within 1 week. They form at the location where the virus entered the body, usually on the genitals, thighs, or lower abdomen. A person with a weakened immune system may experience outbreaks on the face or scalp. The blisters are waxy and raised, with a dimple on top. They can be flesh-colored, white, pink, yellow, or clear. Single papules may appear first, then multiply to form clusters that sometimes resemble genital warts. Itching is common, but pain is rare. A few patients experience red, scaly skin around the blisters.

Individual blisters may resolve on their own in about 2 months, but an outbreak can last 6 months to 3 years.

Diagnosis:
The blisters are distinctive, so diagnosis is typically made by observation. Doctors confirm the diagnosis with a biopsy and microscopic examination of biopsied tissue. Often, a physician removes ("unroofs") the top of a blister and push out its core. Molluscum contagiosum blisters have a characteristic white core and bleed rapidly following unroofing.

Treatment:
Although the virus remains in the body, a healthy person’s immune system usually controls outbreaks and suppresses blister formation. Outbreaks can recur, and they are usually associated with a weakened immune system. There is no specific treatment. Blisters may be removed surgically by cutting, burning, chemical destruction, or freezing with liquid nitrogen. These procedures are done in the office under local anesthetic. Retinoids (e.g., Retin A®), an acne treatment, may be used. Increased sun sensitivity is a common side effect.

[Joe Zop]

Tough luck, Erik! I've happily avoided moluscum, but I've read that doctors remove them either with a curette or with liquid nitrogen, neither of which sounds exactly pleasant. This looks to be one of the rare ones that men contract more easily than do women.

Dunno about the reliability of their device, but there's a lot of good info on the whole things at http://www.molluscum.com/

[Erik]

Is this section only for AIDS, or can we speak about other STDs ?
Has any of you ever get a "moluscum contagium" ? This is a kind of little shits that have been growing on my pubic (not the organs so far) and can become red and itching. According to the doctor I have seen in this Pattaya hosptital, it is not very serious but quite persistent and contagious. So I got that from one of the cuties here... He suggests a curage but I have not yet decided what to do. Ii seems that cream is not very efficient. Any experience of that ? Thanks.

[Atlanta Monger]

Excellent post, dickhead - I'm still laughing two days later, everytime I see it. Just too funny!

Slappy, I'd certainly like to see you shuffle up to Magic Johnson and tell him he just HAD to have been taking it up the wazoo from one of his teammates, since there are no documented cases of F2M HIV transmission. I guess his doctor must have fudged the paperwork, huh?

Swiss: Good points, all. Unfortunately lost on some of this crowd, though.

Play safe, boys - just think about the future return trips you'd otherwise miss!

[Swiss Tiger]

By the way, a previous girlfriend was a nurse, thats why I know about the fluid amounts etc. She brought home some docs for me to read a few years back.
Interestingly, if nurses or doctors get cut in an operating theatre they immediately have an antidote injection within a few hours or so, then have a HIV test and Hep test within a week. They're not allowed to operate until the results come back. Apparently its a common occurance. I was shocked, until it was pointed out to me that someone is bound to be cut when you work with sharp knives and needles all day etc.

Reading this particular thread, has become as interesting for me as reading the life experiences of various members on other threads. Like any hobby, it is enveloping and developing, and research helps keep it fun.

We all get our pleasure in different ways, and view risk with varying degrees of importance. Each to his own, and I won't begin to try and preach on here, but sometimes its easy to forget that there are some eight+ different STDs that one can catch during hetrosexual sexual intercourse, each with varying degrees of pain and embarassement and life changing concequences.

Its your body, your life, you only get one of each!

How much change and embarassment can you handle?

[Swiss Tiger]

Dickhead

"Probably the best post I have seen in a very very long time!"

Had me laughing my socks off.
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Why do people still think that HIV is not a problem? We all know that homosexuals, IV drug users and prostitutes are the highest risk areas for western men to catch the disease.

Opebo and Horndog,

If a stranger held a pistol to your head and told you they didn't know if it was loaded or not, but that they would pull the trigger anyway, how would you feel? I suspect that the least you would do is fart, at worst faint with pants full of your farts follow through!

Having unprotected sex with a prostitute in some countries is not far away from playing Russian Roulette. (Esp in Russia, Africa and Asia, see the latest HIV spread statistics).

You may well be clean, but answer this question, were all the guys who fucked your prostitute in the last 7 days clean as well?
You never know 100%.

A girl working in a brothel may have over 10 partners in a night, thats 70 in a working week! Even if they get tested regularly for HIV and other STD's, they would get tested "at best" once a month. (Law in Germany I think!)
That works out to be some 300+ clients between tests if you are lucky.

If a girl has an annual test then thats 3600+....... Go figure how many of those would be totally clean fucks?

If she lets you fuck her in the ass without a condom then I guarantee that YOU are NOT the first!

I think you will get the idea that the risk factor of infection is now rising rapidly.

At the top end of the scale a high class girl in a cabaret or some such won't sleep with as many men, but will go longer between tests.

To catch HIV, from anal or vaginal sex you need only transfer enough infected fluid to cover the nail of your little finger - FACT! It does not have to be blood transferal, although the fluid does have to get into your blood stream, and can be easily done through tiny tears in your dick.

It is inlikely that you will catch HIV from oral sex, unless she uses her teeth and dribbles alot, and has bleeding gums, or if you are the "giver" then if your gums bleed you are AT RISK. (teeth brushing before and immediately after is ill advised, as is eating hard food like crisps, cookies etc) HIV will not survive in the stomach due to the acid.

The only good thing about your posts (opebo & horndog) is that you remind the rest of us of need to wear condoms and protect ourselves, and I/we hope that you have not had the same girl as we after she had her last HIV test.

You are both walking high risk individuals. I really hope you see some sense before its too late. No one deserves to die a painful and agonising death, and I wish you all the best, but please please, (and this is written in all sincerity) be more careful!

Thats it from me

good luck and have fun

ST

[Slappy Balls]

Dick Head,

You really are a dickhead. Wow what a guess. Any ways you people know nothing. Any doctor will tell you that you cannot get AIDS from vaginal sex. There is not one documented case of hetrosexual aids. So you guys can end this debate right now. Go ask your doctor and he will tell you that unless you are engaging in anal sex with another man you've got no worries.

So put your dam chickens in a condom if you like but every chick I screw is bareback.

[ThePerson]

LMAO Dickhead.

[Huge Erection]

I saw on the nvbrothels board that somebody got herpes at Viking Resort in the DR.