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[Prokofiev]

Havana,

I think most guys don´t want to do the work necessary to use this approach. If you just want to get laid without problems and have the cash, then they are right. The "GFE" often comes with GF problems and dating IS different than mongering. To me, the payoff is worth it but others just want sex and a good nights sleep . . . and I can understand that as well. But for me the hunt is for more. I want a Spanish girlfriend and Spanish relatives, eating Spanish food and waking up in my Spanish bed after a night of hot Spanish sex . . . and mission accomplished! In Mexico, substitute Mexican for Spanish and in China . . . you get the picture. The complete experience. This is my last week in Barcelona. What a trip! But these last 5 days are difficult and a little sad. Two great women and so little time . . .

Peace, - P

[Organicgrowth]

Prokofiev,

Thanks for your kind words. I’m really happy that you have also found success with this method, just goes to show that it works. Honesty and trust makes good friends / bed partners for life: as long as both parties know the score…

You may be surprised to learn that I was badly slatted and criticised by a number of fellows on WSG, not this board (see Argentina> Buenos Aires>General). This slating initially was due to misunderstanding on the part of a majority and just plain ignorance on the part of one. However, over time I have come to expect nothing but a closed mind from this particular fellow…

Thanks also for the YUPI.com site. It looks cool and I will give it a try. You going to be in Buenos Aires at all this December? I’m visiting 13 – 23 December…

Regards,

Havanaman

[Prokofiev]

HavanaMan!

I love your scientific analysis of the problem. A measured step by step approach to getting a job done. Excellent.

A couple of notes . . .

For Spanish speaking countries my favorite website is YUPI.com
It is only men and women looking for partners ( not just sex) and most of the women have photos posted. You won´t waste a lot of time writing to people with no chance of success or a woman who doesn´t interest you. I´m writing this from Barcelona where I have met 5 women using your (this) approach. I am in heaven.

As for photos, beware! The 2 "best looking" women turned out to be very average. Photos can lie! But a very average looking woman turned out to be a living doll. In person, she is the most devastatingly beautiful thing I have ever been with. Lots of emocional problems but I can´t say no to a woman like this. A fantasy . . .

I put LOTS of work into the letters and I can write in Spanish very well. I had won their hearts before arriving. For guys in their 20´s the discos are great and you probably don´t need this approach ... but it will help! If you are 40 or older things change dramatically and you need those introductions. For me , a Godsend. Could never have done this without the Web . . .

Good Luck ... -P

[Organicgrowth]

Gentlemen,

I have had a number of guys email me about my non-pro scene tactics (from this board as well as from mongers on other country boards). These ideas will help your travels plans!

To save me time here are my basic tactics. This is not the complete list, as each element has many permutations, and adaptations which one can do. I work strategically and in a systematic style, so although seemingly very structured and rigid, this element of my tactics is actually very dynamic and sociable.

Anyway, my tactics, much like yours, is to enjoy the whole scene. I love the hunt for both the pro and non-pro chicas. I prefer the GFE experience so much that I will always go that extra “mile” / dinero / present / flowers / meal out etc... Over the years this has worked very well and is no longer a chore. Quite the opposite infact. However in the early years it is difficult. Here's what I do, Please keep in mind that its nothing special, just a group of tactics:-

1. For direct pen pals...http://www.PenpalNet.com a great source of (female) email potentials. The grouping is by age, so take your pick. From this site I get about a 40% return in replies i.e. females, the rest are men (5%) or no reply (55%). I use a standard form letter as my introduction usually along the lines of wanting to learn their language with a female / anyone and “…a good chance for you to practice your English…”. Its free and you get a basic profile when you register. You can even leave your own profile… (long term bait). I just delete all men writing to me, except 1 (this is to retain a male contact in the country I’m visiting). This tactic serves to create a group of female pen pals in my country of interest. We exchange photo’s. If my interest is excited by the initial picture I go one step deeper in initiating a little more intimacy in the emails. I reserve only single, childless women (rather than going into the emotional or medical dynamics of childbirth, lets just say I like tight boxes). If I’m not into the picture, then I still keep the contact going; you never know when you might need a female friend in the country you are going to visit. You can apply this method, for any one of a few hundred sites offering pen pal contacts. Some are free, others charge, still others are a combination (www.amigos.com). I have stuck with the free ones and it has proved useful. Although long winded, this method has been very useful to me in my forward planning, for example for my forthcoming BA trip this December, I have cultivated 2 chicas over a period of almost 10 months. Both are potential GFE material now. I have sent flowers to each, cards etc… From this batch, I also have another 1 who is just going to be a friend: a good contact if needed. Remember, for me this is not about wanting to find love…. So I never loose perspective. I’ll see the chicas as and when I want, maybe get a bed session, maybe not… But its all hunting material, AND intermingled with the tried and tested pro-scene makes for excellent sport!

2. The Students: I like 18 – 25 year old chicas. I have come to accept that the lower end of my age preference is going to be mainly students, and the upper age end mainly pro’s. I say mainly, but there are always exceptions. I have managed to make contacts with female students using the following:

a) Find the main University in the city of interest: off course through the net. A scan of their site will show either, departmental access, students union access, or a board for leaving messages. Direct introductions are also excellent.

b) Departmental access: email the tutors, assuming your appropriate persona (I’m a student of xyz subject, looking to contact fellow students…. Would you please put the following short message on your notice board…. Etc…). {Aside: So, how do you become a 38 year old student? Simple…. You’ve made your money, and rather than spend the rest of your life squandering it, you’ve decided to re-educate yourself. What a commodity you just became: a rich student!}. This may sound odd, however, as I have been in an academic / hospital environment of one kind or another all my adult life, I can tell you it is an acceptable method. Medics, scientists, lecturers and all subject students alike want to communicate with their international counterparts. Done for separate departments, this is an excellent method. Use your intelligence when you do this as it is plain stupid to have 30 such emails going to different tutors in a single department. There is a real hit and miss potential here, however I must tell you that I have bedded 3 female lecturers with this method. The poorer the country the much higher the hit rate. It’s the reverse honey-pot… they want you / your money / your country. You know this and play the game.

c) Student union access: This is much the same as for the departmental, however differs in that you can make offers such as an exchange potential… A very powerful hook indeed. “I want to learn the language / am visiting / willing to pay for a guide…..” These also work well to initiate a contact. If the students union has a magazine, you can request a simple few line listing for a pen pal along the same line: language / guide etc… This really works as the students union is seeking to offer more and more services to its members.

d) University boards / chat: One of the very best and refined hunting methods IMHO. In this age of technology, just look at all the chat facilities, news groups and boards available. A veritable ocean in which to fish in. I have over a dozen female contacts all over the world which I have managed to bait in the chat forums… Usually the non-English speaking ones, both hemispheres of the planet. Just search for your language of choice + chat on the net. I spend a few minutes listening to the general babbling, then come in with “…anyone speak English…?” You would be surprised about how many want to talk to you, as English is a school / university subject. Also, if you come across chat-nick names which are obviously female, send a private message along the same line… Now, be advised, there is a group of imbecilic men, who for whatever perverted reason, pretend to be women. Yes, you guessed it, Havanaman has fallen prey to a couple of such individuals. Trust me, nothing tickles Havanaman’s prostate other than a women’s finger! It’s a disadvantage of the technique and so an acceptable loss of time… When you start to discuss your travel plans and meeting up, these imbecilic men either don’t email you back or just say they are not available. This being the case I drop them form the list. Introduce your potential of visiting as early as you can, after your third or fourth contact.

e) Direct introductions: Once contact is established, and before meeting the chica, I have on a few occasions, also been able to chat with a group of females having gained the introduction from the main contact online. That is, “practicing ‘the language’ in a group…”, then just send a private message to the one or all in the group having gained confidentiality “I’d like to get to know you better, but Abcc (main contact) may not like it… Female friends love taking “boys” from each other, especially if the “boy” is a valuable commodity. I have also financed a party (drinks, food, the usual things…) in student accommodations where my main contact has brought along a string of her friends (male & female)…. More chica material with which to exchange my details for future visits. Only done this once and so it is not a tried and test angle.

On a final note, it should be made clear that the above tactics require patients. They are not for everybody, and certainly have drawbacks in the context of the girl falling in love with you. I’m not an emotionless so and so, thus I make it clear from the start that its about fun, play and enjoyment: not a “will you be mine for ever” scenario. Its how you sell it that counts here. For a short term stay you need to be fast on your feet. Maybe the above will work for you, maybe not. It all depends on the amount of work you put in. I can honestly say that now that I have played this field for a few years this tactic works for me. When it is merged with other plays, and the direct pro-scene it makes for a wonderful chase. Over the years, I have kept contact with a large number of the women I have met this way, indeed some are now married with kids! Its all about how you sell it and how you sell yourself.

I hope this answers the questions about tactics. Those who emailed me and indeed others: please share your non-pro tactics. Game on!

Regards, Havanaman

[VinK]

Hi
Visiting Colombo Oct 29 - Nov 2nd.. need a lady companion/guide to show me the good things out there... email me at vinnie2535@yahoo.com

Vince

[Zergut]

I am planning to travel to Russia Voronezh from November 13 though 18. Since I don't speak Russian, I would love to find someone who does and team up once I am there to chase my hobby. Otherwise, can anyone suggest a translation service who I can use to help me get around or to help with the girls and maybe a good hotel near there? Please email me at zergut2002@yahoo.com.

Thanks!

[Rewe]

Ed,
I am in Cairo now, and figure out you must still be here. Drop me an email at rewe78@yahoo.com and leave me your contact details and I would be glad helping you out.

[edward]

i'll be in cairo mid Oct..will appreciate any help on getting a paid "girl" while i'm there.
ed

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