Viagra

[Yankee 617]

there are a number of indian manufacturers of "generic viagra" including those shown in table 1 below. many of them also make "generic cialis".

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silagra (cipla) <http://www.cipla.com/>
kamagra (ajanta pharmaceutical) <http://www.ajantapharma.com/>
zenegra (alkem) <http://www.alkemlabs.com/>
caverta (ranbaxy) <http://www.ranbaxy.com/>
penegra (cadila pharmaceuticals) <http://www.cadilapharma.com/>
edegra (sun pharmaceuticals) <http://www.sunpharma.com/>
erix (unichem laboratories) <http://www.unichemindia.com/>
androz (torrent pharmaceuticals) <http://www.torrentpharma.com/>
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table 1: trade names and manufacturers of generic viagra

there is a wealth of on-line information about these drugs. here are a few sites i found useful in my research...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pharmaceuticals_in_india
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sildenafil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cialis

it seems that indian patent law does not recognize patents on the compound itself, but only on the process by which the compound is made. (however, this may be changing, or has changed, as india tries to comply with wto standards.) because if this, indian manufacturers have been able to manufacture the same compounds using alternate processes. however, it seems the us (and other countries) do not allow these indian manufacturers to sell their "generic" versions; that's why orders are sometimes confirep001ed by customs. [note: so is it illegal for us to import these drugs to the us or is it illegal for the manufacturers to export these drugs to the us or both? this aspect of the legal status seems murky to me.]

interestingly, it seems the pfizer patents on sildenafil will expire around 2011-2013. the patent for tadilafil was obtained in 1994 so my guess is that it would expire sometime around 2014. (but these companies often have slick ways to extend the duration of their patents, so i wouldn't bet on any huge influx of generic viagra or cialis just because those patents expire.)

i do wish that on-line pharmacies would identify the manufacturer when they try to sell "generic viagra" or "generic cialis". then we could compare anecdotal experiences with viagra vs silagra vs kamagra vs zenegra etc. at present, the comparisons are between, say, viagra and "something else".

info about viagra and chinese patent law...

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...ent_621072.htm

http://www.in-pharmatechnologist.com...-viagra-patent

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/china_b.../hf21cb03.html

http://www.iprights.com/cms/template...d=310&zoneid=2

http://www.icmrindia.org/casestudies...counterfeiters

http://www.genengnews.com/articles/c...id=2098&chid=4

[Yankee 617]

Selected prices in US dollars from www.usonlinerx.net

1) Tadalafil 20 mg

60 pills $173.00 + $ 0.00 shipping

2) Tadalafil 20 mg SOFT

60 pills $173.00 + $ 0.00 shipping

3) Sildenafil 100 mg

60 pills $149.00 + $ 0.00 shipping

4) Sildenafil 100 mg SOFT

60 pills $149.00 + $ 0.00 shipping

NOTE: They also claim to offer the brand name items from the US manufacturer at a much higher price (of course).

NOTE: I think the "soft tab" does not contain the stated dose, but contains a lesser dose with comparable effect.

NOTE: I could not find a physical mailing address on their site but they do offer a US toll-free number. Googling this US toll-free number leads to numerous other related on-line pharmacies including:

http://www.genericonline.net/content.asp?id=6
http://trustrx.net/
http://www.topills.com/
http://www.buypharmacymeds.com/
http://www.pillcraze.com/
http://slicetoxhtml.com/sliced/topil...oductpage.html
http://www.swingersspacerx.com/engli...ric_cipro.html
http://www.mercafarmacia.com/testimonytopills.htm
http://generic-pharmacy.net/about-generic-pharmacy.html
http://www.pillsorigin.com/content.asp?id=6
http://www.genericonline.net/

It also leads to this "Rip Off Report" (quoted below)...

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/...Off0292458.htm

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Generic-Pharmacy
P.O. Box 392
Calcutta, Nationwide, 700 029
India

I ordered tablets from this company on the 20th Nov 07, via their web site at a cost of U.K. £ 60.00. Delivery was quoted as 24 days, not including week-ends. At the end of this period (18th Dec. 07) I contacted their e-mail help line. The-mail was returned as un-delivered. The goods were paid for by Visa and will contact them to report this company.

John Singleton,
Poulton-Le-Fylde. FY6 8LN
United Kingdom
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[Yankee 617]

Selected prices in US dollars from www.EDselection.com

1) Tadalafil 20 mg

60 pills $139.95 + $10.00 shipping

2) Tadalafil 20 mg SOFT

60 pills $149.95 + $10.00 shipping

3) Sildenafil 100 mg

60 pills $119.95 + $10.00 shipping

4) Sildenafil 100 mg SOFT

60 pills $154.95 + $10.00 shipping

NOTE: They show images of the brand name products while stating clearly that they only sell "generic" versions made in India. Unfortunately, it is not clear who manufactures the version they sell. Many Indian pharmaceutical companies manufacturing these drugs.

NOTE: They provide a UK address and offer two phone numbers. One is a US toll-free number the other has a NYC area code. A reverse phone lookup shows this to be an unpublished number for a landline on Staten Island.

NOTE: I think the "soft tab" does not contain the stated dose, but contains a lesser dose with comparable effect.

NOTE: Googling the number with the NYC area code leads to numerous other related on-line pharmacies including:

http://www.pharmaris.com/
http://viagra.com-price.info/levitra.htm/
http://www.cheaplevitra.eu/?product=kamagra
http://viagra-cialis.biz/?lang=en
http://purchase-viagra.com-price.info/?lang=en
http://levitrasoftabs.info/kamagra-o...htm?lang=en-us
http://www.cheaplevitra.eu/?product=cialis+soft
http://www.buy-cheap-generic-viagra.net/
http://www.buy-generic-viagra-online.com/contact.php
http://medicalusa.us/
http://www.malbone.org/
http://www.buyingviagra.name/?product=cialis+soft
http://viagra-cialis.biz/index.html

[Yankee 617]

I decided to compile the following list from reports I read here on the ISG forum. Beside each entry is my count of the number of ISG member reports I saw that were either favorable (1st number) or unfavorable (2nd number). I also listed the ISG member names that I counted... I didn't want to count multiple posts from the same ISG member for/against the same on-line pharmacy. I also tried not to count posts that seemed to be from a representative or affiliate of the on-line pharmacy (or a competitor)... that is, I tried to count only "true" ISG members. Further, I sometimes found that two different URLs would carry me to the same web site... so I tried to consolidate these entries in my survey.

To compile this list, I read 3 threads here on ISG... all were under the headings "Special Interests; Viagra & other Performance Enhancers". Those threads being "Classified Ads", "Cialis", and "Viagra". I ignored the "Herbal Performance Enhancers" thread. For the "Viagra" thread, I only read the posts numbered 1000 and above.

Here is the result of my survey. Please accept my apology for any mistakes. If you want to add to this survey, or to make corrections, please post your comments publicly to this forum; please do NOT pm me.

( 4/ 0) www.EDSelection.com

Harry Dude, Asian Rain, Carroll6, Undercoverh,

( 6/ 1) www.usolinerx.net

Music Festival, Davefreeman53, Penn Teller, Hanguklvr, Wan King, Sir Real, Smegma Vagina,

( 3/ 1) www.365pharmacy.co.uk

Sir Real, Kiwi 69, Tansak KTV, Warsteiner,

( 2/ 0) www.alldaychemist.com

Major Dude, Kute Guy,

( 2/ 0) www.prima-med.com

Lukasek, Buck Rogers,

( 2/ 0) www.ukmedix.co.uk

Marchway, Munchie,

( 2/ 2) www.generic-pharmacy.net (possibly same as www.usolinerx.net)

More Lamour, Senu, Wan King, Sex Luthor,

( 1/ 0) www.valuepharmaceuticals.com

Puzzo,

( 1/ 0) www.bestgenericpharmacy.com

Achup,

( 1/ 0) www.straightmansweb.com

Mack1964,

( 1/ 0) www.menscare.co.uk

Caiman27,

( 1/ 0) www.healthwise-uk.co.uk

Munchie,

( 1/ 0) www.mygenericpharmacy.com

Octatron,

( 1/ 2) www.rx-mex.org AKA www.XLPharmacy.com

Marlboro Red, Royalflush, Player2,

( 0/ 1) www.discount-pharmacy-group.com

Jak,

( 0/ 1) www.kamagra-kamagra.co.uk

More Lamour,

( 0/ 1) www.mshwt.com

More Lamour,

( 0/ 1) www.pharmaexpressrx.com

Daviddawkins,

( 0/ 3) www.4RX.com AKA www.rx-mex.net

Davefreeman53, Daviddawkins, Player2,

( 0/ 0) www.accessrx.com

So far, based only on these survey results, it seems to me that the first two on-line pharmacies (www.EDSelection.com and www.usolinerx.net) might be the most reliable/trustworthy.

Yankee

[Yankee 617]

My physician recently put me on Androgel (testosterone supplement) for low testosterone blood levels. If anyone here has experience with this drug would you please pm me. I have a couple of questions. Thank you.

Two years ago a blood test showed I had low testosterone. This was reconfirmed a couple months ago, so I started using a testoterone patch. The patch brought my T-levels to within "normal range" and I could sense the improvements (better mood, some nocturnal erections, less fatigued) but found that I had significant skin irritation, and keeping the patch on was sometimes problematic. So, a few days ago, I switched to Androgel. So far so good. I'll have my T-level checked again in a couple weeks.

I wish I'd had my T-level checked many years ago so that I had a baseline against which to compare. While my current level is within "normal range", I think I could probably double my dose of T and still stay within "normal range". I wonder what effect this would have on me. I also wonder whether normal for ME is toward the upper end or the lower end of the "normal range".

I also should not have waited two years to begin T therapy.

Correction: I started using Androderm patches (5 mg), then I switched to Testim gel 1% (apply 5 g tube daily; contains 50 mg testosterone). I'm not sure if there is a product called Androgel.

[Davefreeman53]

Here is the second company that sells crap products: 4Rx.com

I don't know about their other products, but the generic cialis that I ordered had absolutlely no results. Pills even looked suspect.

I wasted my money. The back had tadalafil but no company info like you see on the back of bnafide viagra cilais products. Just mass produced fakes.

Don't waste your money.

Yeah a mate of mine bought off them a few months ago and the stuff was shite. We both tried them and got no boost at all.

I bought off another company recently and the stuff was pretty good. See my report here:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=763201

[Daviddawkins]

Here is the second company that sells crap products: 4Rx.com

I don't know about their other products, but the generic cialis that I ordered had absolutlely no results. Pills even looked suspect.

I wasted my money. The back had tadalafil but no company info like you see on the back of bnafide viagra cilais products. Just mass produced fakes.

Don't waste your money.

[Daviddawkins]

I just wanted to give a warning about this company: pharmaexpressrx

I made an order from them that I never recieved. In fact they never even sent it. I contacted them repeatedly asking them about not getting anything. They replied that there probably was a problem with customs. They told me they would reship. Both of the tracking numbers were not even valid when used. And they were identicle.

I asked for a refund, and they said they would get back to me. They never did.

They scammed me. Don't let them scam you.

[Sainter21]

Is there an issue with Customs in Australia importing prescription drugs through the mail? Is it legal?
I usually bring some back from Bkk, but haven't been back in a while and won't be there for a while and running low on supplies so looking at online places.

Cheers.

[Music Festival]

I bought the generic Cialis, and Viagra from www.usolinerx.net that I saw here. I got 32 cialis and 34 Viagra, and whole lot cost me $222. About £110. I took them myself, and they worked nice, a real good boost. But then I'm only 19, so I'm still pretty horny. But I'm a broke student, so I have been selling them around my home city here in the UK to mates, and guys in pubs and clubs. I'm sold out of all now in 2 weeks, and I have made over £1000 from them. Been selling them for 15. 25 quid each, and loads of guys have been coming back looking for more, even a few old guys in their 60s and 70s. Everyone seems happy with them, and nobody has looked for money back. Even a few girls bought them!

I'm ordering more now today, because I'm going to a music festival in a few weeks, and I reckon I'll make a killing off them there.

[Major Dude]

My research has shown that alldaychemist.com is a great site (minus the expensive flat shipping).

This site is #1 by far. The prices, service, selection and quality are unmatched. I see that some sites here are being posted with referral links. These should be viewed with extra scrutiny.

[OzzieSuds]

In Hong Kong, Viagra and Cialis are readily available in the Pharmacy located at the Entrance to K Pressure in Jordan.
Look at the maps in the Hong Kong Forum - very easy to find. I am sure there are other pharmacies Hong Kong that also sell this but the one near K Pressure is one I always use.

I have found that most pharmacies in Hong Kong will sell Cialis without a prescription but it is better to go to the actual pharmacist and ask for it by its generic name - Tadalafil. No-one else in the shop will understand and the pharmacist will be less concerned about on-lookers.

[OzzieSuds]

Based on reports in this forum I gave www.edselection.com a try.

I ordered 20 generic cialis (tadalafil) soft tabs for USD79.95, plus USD30 in shipping.

Thats about the same price as the pharmacies in Saigon where they seel the originals in four-packs.

I tried the generic from India (available in Bangkok) but did not think it was as effective.

[OzzieSuds]

Can anyone tell me that viagra and cialis are allowed in Singapore and Malaysia.

Thanks

Certainly 'allowed' but you need a prescription to purchase. Not sure about JB/Malaysia but in Indonesia and Vietnam you can just buy at pharmacies without prescription.

[Asian Rain]

I reported on EDSelection previously. Am pleased to see the very positive reports. Their generic Soft Cialis is the most popular product and so inexpensive because of the India-direct shipping model. EDSelection specializes only in ED drugs. The reports from Carroll6 and Harry Dude confirm that EDSelection delivers quality product at a value price to either USA or Europe. As mentioned by Harry Dude, they also give away 4 free Viagra pills with any order, so ED drug newbies can try both Cialis (my favorite) and Viagra. Enjoy, AsianRain

I just ordered from them, CIALIS softtabs. $30 for the Courier shipping, and it was very, very fast to the USA. The product worked well. I never took Cialis before, and it is so smooth! There is no noticable effect, until you are stimulated, the erection very natural. Edselection indeed is a fast, reliable place to get these products. I liked the Soft Cialis. It's sublingual. And melts under your tongue. Cheap price too, just like the others. Harry ain't lyin! The CIALIS works just like Harry says. At first you think maybe the stuff don't work. Then a little bit of stimulation and your body will respond well!

Based on reports in this forum I gave www.edselection.com a try.

I ordered 20 generic cialis (tadalafil) soft tabs for USD79.95, plus USD30 in shipping.

After a few days I got a message on my cell phone from some call center, needing some more information on my order. They also said they had left me an email. I decided to check my email, which was from thjeir security department, they requested the last four digits of my Visa card plus a reson why my billing address did not match the shipping address. I responded to the email, ignored the voicemail, and about 10 days later I received an anonymous looking letter in my mail. The letter was postmarked India, and contained 20 Tadalafil softtabs, plus a sample pack of four generic 100mg sildenafil softtabs. Nice gesture.

The tablets were all packed in blisterpacks, and looked professional enough.

I was a little hesitant to try these out, but gave it a try last weekend. I took one of the tadalafil softtabs. Nothing really happened. I typically experience facial flushing with Levitra, but with this - nothing. Hence, I was not sure whether this stuff stuff actually worked before I hooked up with Andrea at FKK Palace in Frankfurt. However as soon as she touched me I had massive wood. I spent a few hours at the club, performed flawlessly, and with no side effects from the tabs. Highly recommended.