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08-03-08 22:09 #1336
Posts: 161Some general info on Sildenafil and Tadilafil
there are a number of indian manufacturers of "generic viagra" including those shown in table 1 below. many of them also make "generic cialis".
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silagra (cipla) <http://www.cipla.com/>
kamagra (ajanta pharmaceutical) <http://www.ajantapharma.com/>
zenegra (alkem) <http://www.alkemlabs.com/>
caverta (ranbaxy) <http://www.ranbaxy.com/>
penegra (cadila pharmaceuticals) <http://www.cadilapharma.com/>
edegra (sun pharmaceuticals) <http://www.sunpharma.com/>
erix (unichem laboratories) <http://www.unichemindia.com/>
androz (torrent pharmaceuticals) <http://www.torrentpharma.com/>
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table 1: trade names and manufacturers of generic viagra
there is a wealth of on-line information about these drugs. here are a few sites i found useful in my research...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pharmaceuticals_in_india
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sildenafil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cialis
it seems that indian patent law does not recognize patents on the compound itself, but only on the process by which the compound is made. (however, this may be changing, or has changed, as india tries to comply with wto standards.) because if this, indian manufacturers have been able to manufacture the same compounds using alternate processes. however, it seems the us (and other countries) do not allow these indian manufacturers to sell their "generic" versions; that's why orders are sometimes confirep001ed by customs. [note: so is it illegal for us to import these drugs to the us or is it illegal for the manufacturers to export these drugs to the us or both? this aspect of the legal status seems murky to me.]
interestingly, it seems the pfizer patents on sildenafil will expire around 2011-2013. the patent for tadilafil was obtained in 1994 so my guess is that it would expire sometime around 2014. (but these companies often have slick ways to extend the duration of their patents, so i wouldn't bet on any huge influx of generic viagra or cialis just because those patents expire.)
i do wish that on-line pharmacies would identify the manufacturer when they try to sell "generic viagra" or "generic cialis". then we could compare anecdotal experiences with viagra vs silagra vs kamagra vs zenegra etc. at present, the comparisons are between, say, viagra and "something else".
info about viagra and chinese patent law...
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...ent_621072.htm
http://www.in-pharmatechnologist.com...-viagra-patent
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/china_b.../hf21cb03.html
http://www.iprights.com/cms/template...d=310&zoneid=2
http://www.icmrindia.org/casestudies...counterfeiters
http://www.genengnews.com/articles/c...id=2098&chid=4
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08-03-08 16:45 #1335
Posts: 161Some prices & info from www.usonlinerx.net
Selected prices in US dollars from www.usonlinerx.net
1) Tadalafil 20 mg
60 pills $173.00 + $ 0.00 shipping
2) Tadalafil 20 mg SOFT
60 pills $173.00 + $ 0.00 shipping
3) Sildenafil 100 mg
60 pills $149.00 + $ 0.00 shipping
4) Sildenafil 100 mg SOFT
60 pills $149.00 + $ 0.00 shipping
NOTE: They also claim to offer the brand name items from the US manufacturer at a much higher price (of course).
NOTE: I think the "soft tab" does not contain the stated dose, but contains a lesser dose with comparable effect.
NOTE: I could not find a physical mailing address on their site but they do offer a US toll-free number. Googling this US toll-free number leads to numerous other related on-line pharmacies including:
http://www.genericonline.net/content.asp?id=6
http://trustrx.net/
http://www.topills.com/
http://www.buypharmacymeds.com/
http://www.pillcraze.com/
http://slicetoxhtml.com/sliced/topil...oductpage.html
http://www.swingersspacerx.com/engli...ric_cipro.html
http://www.mercafarmacia.com/testimonytopills.htm
http://generic-pharmacy.net/about-generic-pharmacy.html
http://www.pillsorigin.com/content.asp?id=6
http://www.genericonline.net/
It also leads to this "Rip Off Report" (quoted below)...
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/...Off0292458.htm
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Generic-Pharmacy
P.O. Box 392
Calcutta, Nationwide, 700 029
India
I ordered tablets from this company on the 20th Nov 07, via their web site at a cost of U.K. £ 60.00. Delivery was quoted as 24 days, not including week-ends. At the end of this period (18th Dec. 07) I contacted their e-mail help line. The-mail was returned as un-delivered. The goods were paid for by Visa and will contact them to report this company.
John Singleton,
Poulton-Le-Fylde. FY6 8LN
United Kingdom
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08-03-08 16:42 #1334
Posts: 161Some prices & info from www.EDselection.com
Selected prices in US dollars from www.EDselection.com
1) Tadalafil 20 mg
60 pills $139.95 + $10.00 shipping
2) Tadalafil 20 mg SOFT
60 pills $149.95 + $10.00 shipping
3) Sildenafil 100 mg
60 pills $119.95 + $10.00 shipping
4) Sildenafil 100 mg SOFT
60 pills $154.95 + $10.00 shipping
NOTE: They show images of the brand name products while stating clearly that they only sell "generic" versions made in India. Unfortunately, it is not clear who manufactures the version they sell. Many Indian pharmaceutical companies manufacturing these drugs.
NOTE: They provide a UK address and offer two phone numbers. One is a US toll-free number the other has a NYC area code. A reverse phone lookup shows this to be an unpublished number for a landline on Staten Island.
NOTE: I think the "soft tab" does not contain the stated dose, but contains a lesser dose with comparable effect.
NOTE: Googling the number with the NYC area code leads to numerous other related on-line pharmacies including:
http://www.pharmaris.com/
http://viagra.com-price.info/levitra.htm/
http://www.cheaplevitra.eu/?product=kamagra
http://viagra-cialis.biz/?lang=en
http://purchase-viagra.com-price.info/?lang=en
http://levitrasoftabs.info/kamagra-o...htm?lang=en-us
http://www.cheaplevitra.eu/?product=cialis+soft
http://www.buy-cheap-generic-viagra.net/
http://www.buy-generic-viagra-online.com/contact.php
http://medicalusa.us/
http://www.malbone.org/
http://www.buyingviagra.name/?product=cialis+soft
http://viagra-cialis.biz/index.html
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08-03-08 01:03 #1333
Posts: 161On-Line Pharmacies: Reliability Survey
I decided to compile the following list from reports I read here on the ISG forum. Beside each entry is my count of the number of ISG member reports I saw that were either favorable (1st number) or unfavorable (2nd number). I also listed the ISG member names that I counted... I didn't want to count multiple posts from the same ISG member for/against the same on-line pharmacy. I also tried not to count posts that seemed to be from a representative or affiliate of the on-line pharmacy (or a competitor)... that is, I tried to count only "true" ISG members. Further, I sometimes found that two different URLs would carry me to the same web site... so I tried to consolidate these entries in my survey.
To compile this list, I read 3 threads here on ISG... all were under the headings "Special Interests; Viagra & other Performance Enhancers". Those threads being "Classified Ads", "Cialis", and "Viagra". I ignored the "Herbal Performance Enhancers" thread. For the "Viagra" thread, I only read the posts numbered 1000 and above.
Here is the result of my survey. Please accept my apology for any mistakes. If you want to add to this survey, or to make corrections, please post your comments publicly to this forum; please do NOT pm me.
( 4/ 0) www.EDSelection.com
Harry Dude, Asian Rain, Carroll6, Undercoverh,
( 6/ 1) www.usolinerx.net
Music Festival, Davefreeman53, Penn Teller, Hanguklvr, Wan King, Sir Real, Smegma Vagina,
( 3/ 1) www.365pharmacy.co.uk
Sir Real, Kiwi 69, Tansak KTV, Warsteiner,
( 2/ 0) www.alldaychemist.com
Major Dude, Kute Guy,
( 2/ 0) www.prima-med.com
Lukasek, Buck Rogers,
( 2/ 0) www.ukmedix.co.uk
Marchway, Munchie,
( 2/ 2) www.generic-pharmacy.net (possibly same as www.usolinerx.net)
More Lamour, Senu, Wan King, Sex Luthor,
( 1/ 0) www.valuepharmaceuticals.com
Puzzo,
( 1/ 0) www.bestgenericpharmacy.com
Achup,
( 1/ 0) www.straightmansweb.com
Mack1964,
( 1/ 0) www.menscare.co.uk
Caiman27,
( 1/ 0) www.healthwise-uk.co.uk
Munchie,
( 1/ 0) www.mygenericpharmacy.com
Octatron,
( 1/ 2) www.rx-mex.org AKA www.XLPharmacy.com
Marlboro Red, Royalflush, Player2,
( 0/ 1) www.discount-pharmacy-group.com
Jak,
( 0/ 1) www.kamagra-kamagra.co.uk
More Lamour,
( 0/ 1) www.mshwt.com
More Lamour,
( 0/ 1) www.pharmaexpressrx.com
Daviddawkins,
( 0/ 3) www.4RX.com AKA www.rx-mex.net
Davefreeman53, Daviddawkins, Player2,
( 0/ 0) www.accessrx.com
So far, based only on these survey results, it seems to me that the first two on-line pharmacies (www.EDSelection.com and www.usolinerx.net) might be the most reliable/trustworthy.
Yankee
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08-02-08 23:32 #1332
Posts: 161Androgel
Originally Posted by Xdentx
I wish I'd had my T-level checked many years ago so that I had a baseline against which to compare. While my current level is within "normal range", I think I could probably double my dose of T and still stay within "normal range". I wonder what effect this would have on me. I also wonder whether normal for ME is toward the upper end or the lower end of the "normal range".
I also should not have waited two years to begin T therapy.
Correction: I started using Androderm patches (5 mg), then I switched to Testim gel 1% (apply 5 g tube daily; contains 50 mg testosterone). I'm not sure if there is a product called Androgel.Last edited by Yankee 617; 08-03-08 at 14:57. Reason: Correction
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07-23-08 23:20 #1331
Posts: 2Originally Posted by Daviddawkins
I bought off another company recently and the stuff was pretty good. See my report here:
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=763201
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07-22-08 14:30 #1330
Posts: 9Scam Alert #2
Here is the second company that sells crap products: 4Rx.com
I don't know about their other products, but the generic cialis that I ordered had absolutlely no results. Pills even looked suspect.
I wasted my money. The back had tadalafil but no company info like you see on the back of bnafide viagra cilais products. Just mass produced fakes.
Don't waste your money.
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07-22-08 14:22 #1329
Posts: 9Scam Alert
I just wanted to give a warning about this company: pharmaexpressrx
I made an order from them that I never recieved. In fact they never even sent it. I contacted them repeatedly asking them about not getting anything. They replied that there probably was a problem with customs. They told me they would reship. Both of the tracking numbers were not even valid when used. And they were identicle.
I asked for a refund, and they said they would get back to me. They never did.
They scammed me. Don't let them scam you.
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07-21-08 09:46 #1328
Posts: 137Viagra, Cialis, etc.
Is there an issue with Customs in Australia importing prescription drugs through the mail? Is it legal?
I usually bring some back from Bkk, but haven't been back in a while and won't be there for a while and running low on supplies so looking at online places.
Cheers.
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07-11-08 02:17 #1327
Posts: 3Generic Viagra and Cialis
I bought the generic Cialis, and Viagra from www.usolinerx.net that I saw here. I got 32 cialis and 34 Viagra, and whole lot cost me $222. About £110. I took them myself, and they worked nice, a real good boost. But then I'm only 19, so I'm still pretty horny. But I'm a broke student, so I have been selling them around my home city here in the UK to mates, and guys in pubs and clubs. I'm sold out of all now in 2 weeks, and I have made over £1000 from them. Been selling them for 15. 25 quid each, and loads of guys have been coming back looking for more, even a few old guys in their 60s and 70s. Everyone seems happy with them, and nobody has looked for money back. Even a few girls bought them!
I'm ordering more now today, because I'm going to a music festival in a few weeks, and I reckon I'll make a killing off them there.
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06-17-08 00:08 #1326
Posts: 15alldaychemist
Originally Posted by Kute Guy
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06-11-08 02:58 #1325
Posts: 1121Originally Posted by Firebird
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06-11-08 02:55 #1324
Posts: 1121Originally Posted by Harry Dude
I tried the generic from India (available in Bangkok) but did not think it was as effective.
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06-11-08 02:52 #1323
Posts: 1121Originally Posted by Johntha
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05-29-08 15:58 #1322
Posts: 946EDSelection
I reported on EDSelection previously. Am pleased to see the very positive reports. Their generic Soft Cialis is the most popular product and so inexpensive because of the India-direct shipping model. EDSelection specializes only in ED drugs. The reports from Carroll6 and Harry Dude confirm that EDSelection delivers quality product at a value price to either USA or Europe. As mentioned by Harry Dude, they also give away 4 free Viagra pills with any order, so ED drug newbies can try both Cialis (my favorite) and Viagra. Enjoy, AsianRain
Originally Posted by Carroll6Originally Posted by Harry Dude