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[PussyLiccker]

Another occasion was in 2012 with Aida, a good-looking blonde, at Acapulco, who was actually somewhat hostile during our conversation because I had told her that I had come to Germany to fuck. After getting her off with DATY, she warmed up and it turned out to be a great session. Unfortunately when I saw her again in2013, she was cold and indifferent again, so I ignored her from then on. My friend did go with her and told me he had a great session and she couldn't get enough of him when in the room. She then completely ignored him the rest of the evening.)

This could be a misconception. For first timers, the perception will throw them off there. And given it was back in 2012, the club girls were more restricted in what they can do. Until recently, girls weren't allowed to look at a guy in the eyes. There are CCTV cameras in the ceiling, and from what I know, they are being monitored. Not sure how true that is, but it does make sense because these are Romanian girls we are talkin about here. If you go to GT, the Romanian side is where girls can easily approach the guys and flirt with them. At Sayma, predominatly Romanian, girls do more than flirt there, they invite you to grind against them while they dance, and play with you on the couch.

I'm not a fan of the atmosphere of ACA, and the appearance can fool punters that these girls are not service oriented. Once you get in the room, it's something else. I have had high percentage service rate here compare to other clubs, but it's a club to avoid at certain periods when the club is desolate of girls.

All this explains their behavior outside the room. What I like to understand is the reason behind the rules. Anybody know?

[Jimmy Boy 99]

[QUOTE=The Cane; 1515004]In the end, I have to agree with what you said. But you know, I have to say it's easy for people who will never face a particular type of discrimination to take a stance like the one you project. But, as soon as somebody won't fuck you because of some intrinsic quality that you can't "hide", well then all of a sudden you understand exactly where the other person is coming from. Now you get it because now it's happening to you! You're "in their skin" so to speak. The example that I like to use is the monger here (don't remember who) who was complaining because a tute rejected his business due to his age. He was too old for her. Now I bet he gets it! How discrimination makes another person feel. Because, it was now happening to him. Not because of his race. But because of his age. Something he could not change or alter if his very life depended upon it. QUOTE]

As a white guy in Tokyo, I have experienced institutional racism by being turned away at the door when trying to get in to blowjob bars and other sex establishments. Obviously I didn't like it or think it was fair but I just had to find the few places that do accept whites, as I cannot change the system.

I am also well into the age discrimination category but have never been openly refused because of my age, as I never ask unless the girl has indicted by word or action that she is interested in sessioning with me. If the girl is cold, unresponsive, or uninterested, why would you want to go with her and ask her to do so, either forcing her to refuse you directly or, even worse, going with you and giving you a lousy, cold, dead fish experience? Choose someone who wants your money enough to over-ride whatever prejudices she has.

(I must confess to a certain inconsistency about this. On one occasion, at the World Fasching party several years ago, I saw this absolutely gorgeous blonde sitting alone. I went up to her and said hello. She said she didn't speak English and turned away. I tried some more conversational gambits with equally poor results. Since she probably could have charged $500 / hour in the US, I decided I wasn't going to lose the chance to fuck her for 50 Euros, no matter how cold she was, and so I finally just asked her if she would go to the room with me and, to my surprise, she said yes. To my astonishment, she was GFE and within 5 minutes I told her I wanted to extend to an hour. It was a great session. Unfortunately, I never saw her again. Another occasion was in 2012 with Aida, a good-looking blonde, at Acapulco, who was actually somewhat hostile during our conversation because I had told her that I had come to Germany to fuck. After getting her off with DATY, she warmed up and it turned out to be a great session. Unfortunately when I saw her again in2013, she was cold and indifferent again, so I ignored her from then on. My friend did go with her and told me he had a great session and she couldn't get enough of him when in the room. She then completely ignored him the rest of the evening.)

[The Cane]

To the senior members,

This will my first trip to FRA. I will be there for about 10 days. I am staying near the main Hbf. I can travel if required. I have gone through various posts:

1. Is Oase, World, Sharks the must do places? Is Palace worth it for the sake of convenience in terms of it being very close to Hbf.

2. Is any one of the above a preferred venue in terms of weekday vs weekend?

3. Which time frame is the best? Day? Evening or Late night? (Basically is it worth missing the last train back to Hbf if I go to the suburban clubs?

4. Finally if it not too much trouble, can you point out the most popular girls in each of these clubs.

Thanks in advance.

IGuyTdh dude RTFF why don't you LOL!

[Satrai]

Most of my Indian friends prefer fkk palace.

Fkk oase is racist as many Romanian there and they see us indians like they see gypsies. Most girl will charge you like Palace girls but they are uglies. In Palace you get hollywood blondess and fkk Oase you get typical Romanian girls same price as Palace now. Things have changed in Oase and Sharks.

Avoid fkk with lots of Romanians if you are Indian as they don't like gypsies. Racist working girls.

I did not had this problem with Rumanian gals in Palace / Oase / Sharks. Beside this, some of those (darker type) Rumanian gals also look like Indians or gypsies, LOL!

BTW: did any bro ever meet a real Indian gal in a FKK / sauna-club?

[Tjohoo]

Fkk oase is racist as many Romanian there and they see us indians like they see gypsies.

Avoid fkk with lots of Romanians if you are Indian as they don't like gypsies. Racist working girls.

I see that there seems to racism both here and there in this world! In my opinion your statements could probably count as racism as well.

T

[IGuyTdh]

To the senior members,

This will my first trip to FRA. I will be there for about 10 days. I am staying near the main Hbf. I can travel if required. I have gone through various posts:

1. Is Oase, World, Sharks the must do places? Is Palace worth it for the sake of convenience in terms of it being very close to Hbf.

2. Is any one of the above a preferred venue in terms of weekday vs weekend?

3. Which time frame is the best? Day? Evening or Late night? (Basically is it worth missing the last train back to Hbf if I go to the suburban clubs?

4. Finally if it not too much trouble, can you point out the most popular girls in each of these clubs.

Thanks in advance.

[The Cane]

In the end, I have to agree with what you said. But you know, I have to say it's easy for people who will never face a particular type of discrimination to take a stance like the one you project. But, as soon as somebody won't fuck you because of some intrinsic quality that you can't "hide", well then all of a sudden you understand exactly where the other person is coming from. Now you get it because now it's happening to you! You're "in their skin" so to speak. The example that I like to use is the monger here (don't remember who) who was complaining because a tute rejected his business due to his age. He was too old for her. Now I bet he gets it! How discrimination makes another person feel. Because, it was now happening to him. Not because of his race. But because of his age. Something he could not change or alter if his very life depended upon it.

In the end, I agree with you 100 percent on this. The only thing I would add is that one would hope that a club would strive to not promote an atmosphere of a "hostile environment" where certain types of people don't feel welcome. Yes, a girl should have the option to accept or reject business from whoever she wants to. But, if you have an environment where all of those independent decisions add up to what looks like systemic discrimination and prejudice, whatever kind of discrimination or prejudice that might be, then I think that's a problem. The only place in Germany where I have been that has that kind of negative aura is Golden Time (at least as was felt personally by me). And I say that as somebody who got in and fucked four girls there! The girls at Palace don't have to fuck whoever wants them. Same at Sharks, World, and Oase. Mainhattan. Artemis. Wherever. And yet, none of those establishments have that same vibe that's found at GT. Why?

It's hard to say, but in the end I think it all comes down to management's screening and selection process, and the attitudes from the girls that management is willing to accept. GT is known for this (racial discrimination) , and some girls go there to work precisely because of that. So, you get this "syndicate" of girls there who are going to discriminate based on race, the management knows it, and they allow the practice to exist. The result is an overall hostile environment for certain types. It's been suggested here that there exists a hostile environment towards Indians at Oase from among the Romanian girls. I wouldn't doubt it for a minute. I'm not Indian, so it hasn't happened to me. But, I'm not so ignorant as to suggest that it doesn't exist (discrimination towards Indians) just because it doesn't happen to me. That goes to the very definition of what discrimination is! That it's happening to some people while not to others.

These are private clubs, so the only thing you can really do is just not frequent places where you find that these hostile environments exist. I'm glad that among the big major clubs, GT is the only place I've been to where I've witnessed such a hostile environment. And I got in, which was ultimately a part of the problem LOL!

[Jimmy Boy 99]

2. Girls being racist.

This should not happen at all especially in a country like Germany.

Besides, the girls only want the customers' Euro banknotes. Why do they care about the customers' skin color?

If a girl refuse to have sex with a customer because his dick is too big or he is drunk or he smells bad, then it is understandable.

But refuse a customer just because of his skin color? That's unacceptable!

Have we become so politically correct that a girl can't even decide who gets to stick his dick into her? The girls at FKKs are not public utilities who have to provide service to whomever wants to pay for it. They have the right to decline anyone for any reason, including not liking their skin color, just as customers can choose not to session with girls whose skin color they don't like.

[TankTank123]

I have not been there, but the train from Paris to Saarbrucken would take over 4 hours, so eight hours of travel in one day wouldn't leave much time for FKK-ing.

So, a trip to Frankfurt (or NRW) may be your best option. You can get some pretty low-priced return flights within Europe.

A few months ago, I took a TGV from Paris to Frankfurt. Journey took slightly less than 4 hours and cost about €60, booked through Internet. I departed from Paris around 9 am and was in Oase at around 1. 30 pm. I concluded that the TGV was faster than going to airport, waiting for flight, etc.

[ShoesAndSocks]

Please guide me the nearest or easiest FKK to visit from paris. Don't mind travelling 2-3 hours for that. I don't have a car, would be using public transport & taxi. It would be grateful, if someone suggest me how to reach the club using train, tram bus or taxi.

I understand the town of Saarbrucken on the French / German border is the closest destination, and there was mention here recently that the Palace owners were opening up a mega-FKK there in early 2014.
I have not been there, but the train from Paris to Saarbrucken would take over 4 hours, so eight hours of travel in one day wouldn't leave much time for FKK-ing.

So, a trip to Frankfurt (or NRW) may be your best option. You can get some pretty low-priced return flights within Europe.

[Hessen Bub]

Things have changed in Oase and Sharks.

Avoid fkk with lots of Romanians if you are Indian as they don't like gypsies. Racist working girls.

Things have changed at Oase for worse and at Sharks for better as Sharks now has a strong and reliable line-up and consistent service levels. So you really think Romanians are more racist than German or Bulgarian or Hungarian girls? Most of the girls don't care about your nationality / origin, they prefer clean respectful clients.

HB

[Solo Traveler]

Most girl will charge you like Palace girls but they are uglies.

CaptCabins,

Do you mean that the girls make their own prices when facing non-whites customers?

This is serous problem, did you ever complain this to the front desk? Can you reveal more details?

Actually, your statement includes two problem.

1. Girls making their own prices.

The working girls should not make their own price, because the prices and the rules are already there.

50 EUR standard service means "30 minutes, BBBJ+covered sex in multiple position+kissing+DATY"

CIM is extra 50 EUR.

Anal is extra 100 EUR.

2. Girls being racist.

This should not happen at all especially in a country like Germany.

Besides, the girls only want the customers' Euro banknotes. Why do they care about the customers' skin color?

If a girl refuse to have sex with a customer because his dick is too big or he is drunk or he smells bad, then it is understandable.

But refuse a customer just because of his skin color? That's unacceptable!

[Eeyore]

Definitely part of the picture. Parents who moved in the previous generation from Italy and Ireland are not so common among US providers, but I've met women who have at least one parent from the UK, Poland and Germany-both West and East. As one might expect, the ones with a German parent are the most curious, and they want a chance to practice their German as well.

[CaptCabins]

Hi All,

I am a monger from India and travelling to Paris. Heard lot about FKK Clubs, graving to experience once.

Please guide me the nearest or easiest FKK to visit from paris. Don't mind travelling 2-3 hours for that. I don't have a car, would be using public transport & taxi. It would be grateful, if someone suggest me how to reach the club using train, tram bus or taxi. My last option is to travel to frankfurt and visit oase or mainhattan

Most of my Indian friends prefer fkk palace.

Fkk oase is racist as many Romanian there and they see us indians like they see gypsies. Most girl will charge you like Palace girls but they are uglies. In Palace you get hollywood blondess and fkk Oase you get typical Romanian girls same price as Palace now. Things have changed in Oase and Sharks.

Avoid fkk with lots of Romanians if you are Indian as they don't like gypsies. Racist working girls.

[KumarCool]

Hi All,

I am a monger from India and travelling to Paris. Heard lot about FKK Clubs, graving to experience once.

Please guide me the nearest or easiest FKK to visit from paris. Don't mind travelling 2-3 hours for that. I don't have a car, would be using public transport & taxi. It would be grateful, if someone suggest me how to reach the club using train, tram bus or taxi. My last option is to travel to frankfurt and visit oase or mainhattan