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[AznHotBoy]

I don't really want to pay the Hessen rates (100/30). If I can go to only one FKK in NRW area where should it be? Samya, Aca Gold, Babylon?

If Dina from Sharks is a no show today, I'll be heading over to NRW as well. Aca Gold and Prime was decent when I visited in 2021.

Personally, I don't think Frankfurt rates are worth it. Austria is probably better for medium-high prices at the moment. Swiss is ok but not as good as before covid. But I rather pay Swiss prices in Switzerland.

[LookForFun]

I don't really want to pay the Hessen rates (100/30). If I can go to only one FKK in NRW area where should it be? Samya, Aca Gold, Babylon?

Last visit to FKK was pre-covid to Artemis. Looking to find that experience again in NRW, but I worry it doesn't exist at the 50 euro for 30 min rate in NRW.

Are Frankfurt options so much better than it is worth the higher rates?

[Gonzo88]

Will be in FRA on Tuesday, it is forecast to be 38 C / 100 F in the afternoon. I looked through the threads and there appears to be some inconsistent information. Between OASE, Sharks, and Mainhatten, which of these clubs have air-conditioning in the zimmer and in the main area? I remember Shark's being really hot in the summer, but it sounds like some of the rooms now have AC? What about Oase?

Thanks!

[DrPoon]

The Euro has hit dollar parity for the first time in 20 years. Enjoy guys.

Interesting hope for the USD remaing a world reserve currency. We can assume this is due to the high energy prices and gas shortages in Europe.

[Turgid]

The Euro has hit dollar parity for the first time in 20 years. Enjoy guys.

[Sirioja]

Just an oil question with all the high mileage do you use synthetic oil or conventional oil since the car is high mileage and how often do you change the oil and / or filter?

I am using the Fram 10,000 miles filter and do about three oil changes before changing the filter to save money.

I follow Audi program = changing oil and filter every 30000 kms and same for powerful S5 , with long life Castrol 5 W30. My old lady engine is still healthy at 625000 kms and pushing every week end in Germany. What I call quality. When engine did warm up, then best for it is to push, which clean it. I wish I will find my S5 with guaranty on engine, gearbox and transmission when it will have to go for about 100 km / h faster it ever was, and I want only the Richard Wagner sound, not Akrapovic race sound. Not sure I will find as I wished for my Summer tour finishing in Ventoux, then old lady will go until I find the good one, beautiful and healthy I can prepare for flexifuel and more powerful to improve from 285 km / h just easily switching off speed limit in electronics to 300 , needing much more power when for this speed I won t find any car to follow stuck in its back to be faster, like I can sometimes faster than 220 with old lady. Interesting work I look forward. I chose this engine because except oil and filter to change, with chain for valves, nothing more, and mechanic quattro, not electronics correcting to kill You. And of course, manual gearbox more able for increased power, not automatic like RS.

[DrPoon]

Since March, I spend 600 more monthly for my driving, reason why I chose S5 but the only real one, to make with flexifuel French technology 0.8 per liter and increasing engine power of course, when I m poor and can t pay Hessen rates but in Rhur for higher quality.

Just an oil question with all the high mileage do you use synthetic oil or conventional oil since the car is high mileage and how often do you change the oil and / or filter?

I am using the Fram 10,000 miles filter and do about three oil changes before changing the filter to save money.

[Sirioja]

Even when gas demand sunk due to lock downs in April 2020 and prices bottomed out at beginning of COVID, gasoline bottomed at 1.22 USD per Liter. Now it is 1.99 USD per liter. That's only a 62% increase and also not a true indicator of inflation as 1.22 was not even the true sustained price.

And prior to covid, gasoline was 1.6 USD per Liter, making true gasoline inflation only 24%.

Neither of which are anywhere near the 100% increase girls are asking.

Since March, I spend 600 € more monthly for my driving, reason why I chose S5 but the only real one, to make with flexifuel French technology 0.8 € per liter and increasing engine power of course, when I m poor and can t pay Hessen rates but in Rhur for higher quality.

[Escape Artist]

Even when gas demand sunk due to lock downs in April 2020 and prices bottomed out at beginning of COVID, gasoline bottomed at 1.22 USD per Liter. Now it is 1.99 USD per liter. That's only a 62% increase and also not a true indicator of inflation as 1.22 was not even the true sustained price.

And prior to covid, gasoline was 1.6 USD per Liter, making true gasoline inflation only 24%.

Neither of which are anywhere near the 100% increase girls are asking.

[Sirioja]

Can still find high level girls, even Germans, with higher level than most at Globe, for 40 or 50 per 30 in Germany. Most often for 2 full GFE hours for me with my wow German. Except my very expensive Swiss 18 yo virgin look but really looking like a woman, but best value for money on 2022 will be in Germany but not Hessen, even pretty Ukrainian Lana Mainhattan was for 150/60 and turning full GFE even small pussy. Best clubs are in Hessen, but not best girls. Switzerland is much too expensive for level of most girls.

[Shark16]

Hey Shark16,
Thanks for your thoughts. In my personal opinion, I think the prices should have gone up to around 60 Euro / HH then eventually 75 Euro / HH for standard service (enthusiastic DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS)

Pretty much my sentiments, too. Inflationadjusted prices should be around 60- 65 E for a quality session in Hessen (maybe 70 E with this year's inflation). Not more. Therefore I would be happy to tip a bit above 50 E hh if the performance is good.

Where we part a bit is the pessimistic tone of "it is not possible to negotiate". It IS possible. Even with the prettiest girls. Even without losing any quality in her performance. Just be friendly and not act like the cheapest of charlies. The girls expect some resistance when quoting prices. I know, because even on my recent trip half my sessions were 100 E /60 (Oase / Sharks).

I also experienced a couple of girls quoting 200 E /60. Probably around 5- 8% of the girls I was chatting up. The two girls would not back down, but would be happy to include some extra services, I. E. 150 E for a GFE + 50 E for an extra. So not any big surprise really. I politely declined. There were many good and better alternatives around. And I had just been fully satisfied in the room with a regular for 100 E /60.

No girls quoted 250- 300 E for plain services as rumoured on ISG. A girl explained to me that they would risk being kicked out if they asked too much for nothing. However, I bet they are easily forgiven if doing so during crowded party nights or big fairs.

Yeah, my budget a day used to be 250 E + entrance fee with five solid sessions. Long gone. In the latter years I preferred 3 x longer 100 E sessions. Sometimes I still manage. At other times I have to adjust to 2 x 150 E sessions. Budget still the same resulting in fewer girls getting my money. With less sessions I emphasize more on the quality of spa and garden facilities. The FKK experience (attractive naked girls all around asking for sex) is still unique to me. I am not ready to quit the FKK scene. Not yet. But I may want to explore other FKK clubs in differenct regions / countries (I already have).

Thanks for the source.

- S16.

[Sirioja]

I'm not complaining about the prices. Reread what I wrote. The Swiss clubs have the same if not higher prices than Sharks at the moment. And I think those prices are justified.

I agree on 2022, most of Sharks looks don't worth rate they are asking, but at Globe, at least 90% also don't worth 150/30. At Aphrodisia, they are not pretty enough to worth 500/60. When I paid 150/60 for my many rooms with Katalea on 2021, twice on many visits as long she was able to play my GFE standard, I paid less expensive for a prettier girl than at Globe and on highest Globe GFE level when she was more fresh than at Globe, but after 7 rooms, she was not anymore fresh GFE enough for me and I became too big for her tired vagina. I loved when her nipples were talking, hardening and chicken skin.

[Sirioja]

Inflation yes, but nothing else that I know of went up 100%, not even gasoline.

Yes, in Western Europe, almost 100% increasing for gasoline diesel from April 2020 to now. Reason why I will build my flexifuel for the only real S5 .

[AznHotBoy]

Hate to break it to you, there is near world wide inflation, and all manner of logistic issues raising the costs for everywhere. To say nothing of food shortages, tourism still on the edge (which means less work for them), the higher risk during the pandemic, to say nothing of the energy crisis. The businesses themselves will be doing it rough to keep the building afloat, let alone profiting. So of course the women are raising their prices, as to no doubt what they have to pay more to the house and to support themselves. To them its a livelihood, for us it is a first world hobby. Who on earth could blame them for raising prices! Everything is going up.

I'm not complaining about the prices. Reread what I wrote. The Swiss clubs have the same if not higher prices than Sharks at the moment. And I think those prices are justified.

[Deleted by Admin] All I'm saying is that the quality of the girl need to match the price. So the club management can either get Swiss or even Austrian level girls at this current moment for 150 E 30. OR match what other discount clubs like Dietzenbach is offering.

Honestly some of these are even too ugly for RTC clubs.

[ShinyCrazy]

Hey Shiny,
Nice find..

Hey Shark16,

Thanks for your thoughts. In my personal opinion, I think the prices should have gone up to around 60 Euro / HH then eventually 75 Euro / HH for standard service (enthusiastic DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS) at some point before the girls got mad / greedy and started asking crazy money, like 100 Euro / HH. Within the German FKK system, I would be happy to pay 150 Euro / hour for great service. And throw in an extra 50 Euro for CIM. And in speaking with other mongers, that seems to be a shared feeling. Unfortunately, the market appears to have overshot the mark. And I'm afraid it won't return to normalcy.

For most of us, the FKK "vacation" means 4-5 sessions in a wonderful long day. If the sessions are 50-75 Euro per 30 minutes, then you can have an incredible day for under 500 Euro. If the girls are expecting 200 per hour for plain vanilla unremarkable service, then the math simply doesn't make sense. I don't want to pay a 85 Euro entry fee then only do one session. I would rather redirect my vacation time to Colombia or Spain or whatever.

The post was on "bw7", BTW.