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[Kosher Kowboy]

I also hate them all. Except for the best. The Invisible brand of condoms. 100% natural, zero artificial chemicals, zero chance of issues due to latex allergy, zero anxiety of breaking the condom while in use, matches every skin color, doesn't stop the flow of motion in the middle of a sensual session, helps the woman have pleasure along with the man, and above all supported by all religions. The way God intended.

Speaking of condoms I just got home from testing the erectile system out with a fine lady visiting us from North Mexico City aka San Antonio. I needed Latina pussy. Big fat almost purplish lips to suck on, dark nipples, brown skin, natural dark (not jet black dye) hair, brown eyes and three fingers went right up her twat with tons of vast acreage of real estate to spare in all directions. Four and a thumb would have worked it's way in if I tried but it was just a QV so didn't try.

But the condom proved to be an evil foe (for popping not keeping it up) and couldn't finish so got sucked off and shot every drop in her mouth. Great service and attitude and when finished she vashed me off with a warm vashcloth in the basin

However I will not give up and will take on the condom again since she was fun, heading back to her hotel in an hour for round II, numero dos, otra vez and this time I am going to stick my fist up her kunt, the way God intended.

[Gino02]

Gotcha,

You are probably right he was referring to a brand, I though he was saying the London tutes use thick ones too. I guess he means those little rectangular silver packages that I hate the sight of. I wonder why all the ones I see in Europe are packaged in that rectangle shaped evil wrapper and ours in squares.

Like it matters, hate them all

I also hate them all. Except for the best. The Invisible brand of condoms. 100% natural, zero artificial chemicals, zero chance of issues due to latex allergy, zero anxiety of breaking the condom while in use, matches every skin color, doesn't stop the flow of motion in the middle of a sensual session, helps the woman have pleasure along with the man, and above all supported by all religions. The way God intended.

[Kosher Kowboy]

London condom is a common brand of white thick condoms that many German FKKs hand over to the girls. Most likely McA referred to that, not something to do with condoms used in the city of London.

Gotcha,

You are probably right he was referring to a brand, I though he was saying the London tutes use thick ones too. I guess he means those little rectangular silver packages that I hate the sight of. I wonder why all the ones I see in Europe are packaged in that rectangle shaped evil wrapper and ours in squares.

Like it matters, hate them all

[Gino02]

The reason I am in the hunt for a condom only girl tonight is exactly as you say, wrap the Schwanz in a thick Amsterdam condom (I haven't been to London, the ones in Amsterdam were thicker than a Goodyear tire) ; weigh the bat down so when you show up at the plate maybe it is all a little easier.

London condom is a common brand of white thick condoms that many German FKKs hand over to the girls. Most likely McA referred to that, not something to do with condoms used in the city of London.

[Chezz]

Sharks, Oase & Palace are all advertising New Years Eve parties, read it on fkk24 dot de. Chrome with Google Translate should be sufficient.

Thanks for the link. I see now that Oase is charging $100 euros for the party with the usual Silvester party items. Same with Sharks, but I their entrance isn't posted. Anyway, thanks again.

[ExpatLover]

KK, you are correct. I meant to write only oral and vaginal.

I am unsure why their recommended abstinence period 90-180 days, but I will offer a wild guess. I would liken achieving orgasm to falling asleep. At least three requirements need to be met to fall asleep (1) one has to be mentally free of stress, (2) one has to be in a somewhat "deprived" state, and (3) one's body must be in a position that is physically comfortable or natural to them. For the purposes of this rather far-fetched analogy, I will focus only on this third requirement..

Sorry I don't understand this kind of challenge, keep your body fit, exercise, no overweight, no smoking, few alcohol and if you like the girl you will have no problem, if you don t like her just leave the room. To reduce the risk of Prostatitis cancer it is very important that we ejaculate at least every 2 days.

[Kosher Kowboy]

So let's say the fastest way for you to cum is the holy trinity of (1) lying on your back, (2) using oil, and (3) using your dominant hand. Let's refer to these as the "perfect conditions".

we want to train ourselves to reliably and confidently orgasm even when conditions are imperfect (schwanz in her vagina with thick London condom).

To put it simply, the only times your hand comes into contact with your schwanz is when you are (1) using toilet, (2) cleaning / grooming yourself in the wash basin, and (3) scratching.

Close but no cigar. The perfect conditions can usually (at least the first few times) be found in Dietzenbach, Secondly comes the 3 conditions you laid out.

The reason I am in the hunt for a condom only girl tonight is exactly as you say, wrap the Schwanz in a thick Amsterdam condom (I haven't been to London, the ones in Amsterdam were thicker than a Goodyear tire) ; weigh the bat down so when you show up at the plate maybe it is all a little easier.

As to my coming in contact with my schwanz usually I just unzip it so when I Codeword1 I really do not touch it and hopefully I will not be scratching it. So (1) and (3) are out for me.

However I have become a big fan of the (2) basin. A basin is defined as a bowl used for vashing, usually attached to a wall and connected to a water supply. I see nothing in the dictionary that a basin should be limited to vashing only our hands or brushing our teeth. In fact if I were in line to use the basin at Sharks I would actually prefer the guy in front of me to use the basin to vash his balls than to use the basin to brush his teeth than spit all kinds of crap and bacteria out of his mouth in to the basin perhaps leaving residue or as hundreds of guys do a day gargle that mouthwash and just spit like animals in the basin and not rinse.

I actually used the basin in the shower area of Dietzenbach last trip a few times. They have rain showers, you have to get wet and than I have to towel off, dry my hair etc. So I found it much easier to just vash them in the basin. In Mainhatten same thing, one of the restrooms has a lock on it and I figured before the session since we sometimes sit and sweat a tad why not vash them off for the girls and no need use tons of water running a full shower (I hear water in Germany is pricey) and I dried them off with paper towels right there so it is Eco friendly, no need to crowd the W / D up with all those towels.

Actually I will add (4) for when it is ok to touch ones Schwanz, that ironically being when grooming ones balls this time hopefully in the shower at home and not basins in Sharks. One has to actually hold their schwanz out of the way when using the razor!

Can't think of (5), but there is one way to cheat that system you talk about not getting off by not touching your schwanz for XX amount of days; a Fleshlight. Like Brandi Love? Remember her? She sends her best, even if she has been stored away for ages.

[McAdonis]

you meant only oral and vaginal in the next line?

KK, you are correct. I meant to write only oral and vaginal.

I think maybe 2 to 3 weeks might be the longest manual abstinence.

I am unsure why their recommended abstinence period 90-180 days, but I will offer a wild guess. I would liken achieving orgasm to falling asleep. At least three requirements need to be met to fall asleep (1) one has to be mentally free of stress, (2) one has to be in a somewhat "deprived" state, and (3) one's body must be in a position that is physically comfortable or natural to them. For the purposes of this rather far-fetched analogy, I will focus only on this third requirement.

AFAIK, most people have a position that is easiest for them to fall asleep in. For instance, when I lie on my stomach, I am asleep within 15 minutes, when lying on my side about 20 minutes, but when lying on my back, it is almost impossible. Similarly, most men have a manner in which it is easiest for them to achieve orgasm. For instance, using one's own hand might take three minutes, missionary 7 minutes, and cowgirl might be "impossible". But while extremely difficult, training yourself to sleep in positions you previously felt uncomfortable are entirely possible, but it takes time. For instance, a pregnant woman who is a stomach sleeper will be forced to sleep on her side during the latter months of her pregnancy. But after giving birth, that same woman will likely revert to sleeping on her stomach. So even after two months of side-sleeping, she does not fully break her habit of stomach-sleeping. Similarly, even after two weeks of abstinence from manual stimulation, one does not unlearn. In other words, one's go to position for achieving orgasm will continue to be manual stimulation, and that is not what we want.

So let's say the fastest way for you to cum is the holy trinity of (1) lying on your back, (2) using oil, and (3) using your dominant hand. Let's refer to these as the "perfect conditions". But when does life present you with perfect conditions? By masturbating as described above (or whatever happens to be your go-to-method), you are training yourself to orgasm only when conditions are perfect and easy. It would be like a MLB player who only took batting practice with underhand softball pitches. Instead, we want to train ourselves to reliably and confidently orgasm even when conditions are imperfect (schwanz in her vagina with thick London condom).

One last thing about abstinence from manual stimulation. Those reboot guys can be quite strict. So if you are on Day 8, and you can't fall asleep, using your hand and giving yourself an erection is strictly forbidden, even if you deliberately stop before you orgasm. Watching porn is forbidden even if you do not touch yourself during that process. To put it simply, the only times your hand comes into contact with your schwanz is when you are (1) using toilet, (2) cleaning / grooming yourself in the wash basin, and (3) scratching.

[Kosher Kowboy]

Yes, KK. Thanks for sharing. I think most would not feel comfortable discussing such private matters. Perhaps our discussion might help someone who has been following along. For instance, if my desire is to improve my 100 meter sprint time, I should not be comparing my personal best time (PB) against that of Usain Bolt's. And I shouldn't be comparing my current PB time against the one I had as a teenager. With that in mind, I think KK is level-setting his expectations appropriately. KK's PB of 21 pops in 7 days was from two mongering seasons ago. So using that as a baseline, and factoring in that he is two years older, I think a target goal of 18 pops in 7 days would be reasonable. KK usually is reasonable, so I suspect he is expressing concern only because his drop-off in output was rather precipitous.

KK, some context around your PB trip from two years ago might be in order. Was it your first FKK trip ever?

I do not mind discussing such private matters, they really aren't all that private. This is a like a locker room here. Who cares and yes, for everyone of us guys posting there are thousands more reading and I am sure some can relate. I think the comparison to the sprint time vs that of Bolt's is a good one fully in play here, I may be being unrealistic. I walk in to Sharks or Oase and see tons of guys now younger than I when those guys used to be me. I have friends now that monger close to half my age or just over and I think that is part of the issue now, I am trying to perform like them, ' the Usain Bolt's' when I am not.

I think much of my trying to perform like a ' kid' is making me put pressure on myself to do what is not natural, I am going thru my monger midlife crisis I guess.

FYI I did go see that Cajun trash last night and did perform quite well. Seems if I bang one hooker a day no issues, two was no issue three days ago but I had two days in between. In that time I hit the gym, slept great, ate well and so on. This is exactly what the home team Germans and EU folks can do, go be animals for 2-4 days which is exactly why I need to add in Medellin so I can have within my own neighborhood a place to go for short marathons that is cheap like EU guys get with Germany, overhead is a hotel and 100 Euros on AirEuropa etc. Actually I am quite excited to complement Germany with Latinas as prior to Germany the previous 16 years were spent travelling the Latina world and tons of ' misbehaved Latina Gypsies' as well are out there. The Colombian girls in Panama (many I was told worked the Medellin clubs) and the ones sent up to San Jose to work in CR were a breeze dealing with compared to Romanian girls it was literally going from hardball to softball underhand pitches

This 21 for 21 trip was I am guessing was trip number 5 or 6, my passport indicates many trips to Germany since early 2016 but only 4 trips in 2016 and this was a 7 day trip and the only stamps that match up to that are in early 2017 so close to two years ago. I am going to guess February. It was right after my CO ski trip when I was 15 pounds lighter. That being said physical shape is perhaps the answer followed by mental strength and I think the last year has been bad with weight gain and as I approached 50 (was in the back of my head since I turned 49) I think seeing all the young mongers (and memories of my great years) did me in; add in friends who are younger and trying to keep up with the Jones's a recipe for a steep decline was there as you mention the drop was quick. I also think as much as I love the RLD it fucks up the next day as I am adding a load shot to the total as opposed to keeping the number of pops steady and reducing what is blown at Day Care or Mainhatten, Sharks etc.

I shall now go look for a condom only 15 min quickie now, batting practice time. January will tell.

[McAdonis]

Best of luck KK. We've kind of discussed this ad nauseum so thank you for serving as our case study.

Yes, KK. Thanks for sharing. I think most would not feel comfortable discussing such private matters. Perhaps our discussion might help someone who has been following along. Off the record, probably close to ten international mongers have shared with me that they rarely orgasm in the zimmer--even when engaging in multi-hour rooms. I generally let them elaborate if they choose. So for some, it could be due to health or medication reasons. But what I found is that most will (after an awkward pause) say something along the lines, "I don't think it is physical because I can go back to the hotel and masturbate three times a day. No problem".

The only thing I will add further is that perhaps we are manifesting a problem when there really isn't one. Maybe a lot of guy don't actually have a problem when compared to the normal population. If someone can't finish at all, okay that's one thing. However, it's another if we're talking about guys over 35 years old trying to go 4, 5, 6 or 10 days orgasming 3,4, or 5 times a day. I'm not certain that it would be normal to be able to do that. The guys who can cum 12-16 times in 4 days, that's the abnormal population, not the guys finishing twice a day. Most of us are not 25 anymore.

Good points. What is important is that each individual is striving to break through personal plateaus. For instance, if my desire is to improve my 100 meter sprint time, I should not be comparing my personal best time (PB) against that of Usain Bolt's. And I shouldn't be comparing my current PB time against the one I had as a teenager. With that in mind, I think KK is level-setting his expectations appropriately. KK's PB of 21 pops in 7 days was from two mongering seasons ago. So using that as a baseline, and factoring in that he is two years older, I think a target goal of 18 pops in 7 days would be reasonable. KK usually is reasonable, so I suspect he is expressing concern only because his drop-off in output was rather precipitous.

KK, some context around your PB trip from two years ago might be in order. Was it your first FKK trip ever? Most mongers have sensory overload their first trip. Visual and mental stimuli elevate their output to levels they never thought possible. Engaging in new mongering experiences for the first time might also have a performance boosting effect. For instance, if that trip was the first time in your mongering career that you AO'ed five WGs in the same day, then perhaps that fueled your PB performance? Discovery of an all-time favorite WG on that trip might have also had a similar effect. If that trip was somehow exceptional in nature, then maybe a goal of 15-16 pops in 7 days is more realistic for you.

[Downandup]

Does anybody know about New Years Eve parties at Frankfurt area clubs? The only thing I've seen so far is something at Sharks, but couldn't read it as it's in German and it's a pic, not text, so not translatable.

Any info would be appreciated. Will report back. Thanks!

Sharks, Oase & Palace are all advertising New Years Eve parties, read it on fkk24 dot de. Chrome with Google Translate should be sufficient.

[Kosher Kowboy]

You might want to check out Cartagena too, especially if you have never been to Colombia and do not speak Spanish.

Spanish is no problem, I am solid intermediate but I may do two weeks there as there is a Spanish school there well known too and might try to push myself up to the advanced C1 level or upper end B2 and study by day and fuck cheap at night. Cartagena no urge, too hot and humid and muggy (much like PTY) and Bogota simply not as nice as Medellin. Not that I will not try them, flying in to Cartagena and Bogota is a tad easier especially Bogota so if I like Medellin I might just fly in to Bogota and fly Copa to / from Medellin. Is less than $100 RT I think. Flights leave all the time. Medellin is much more advanced and is also a possible retirement option with many Americans there. The weather and elevation of Medellin is great for very nice evenings and daytime temps not bad at all either.

But if we enter a bear market in 2019-20 you might just find me roaming around the clock tower in Cartagena or slumming it in Bogota's Santa Fe neighborhood or Codeword1'ing the Bogota regulars by paying top Peso in the barrio Zona Rosa

after June of course, already bought my airline tickets for the first half of 2019 to Germany

[Takedown]

Chongmal is correct, anything that disrupts the chemistry in sessions such as rush and greed can be the anti Viagra, fully agree with him.

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Best of luck KK. We've kind of discussed this ad nauseum so thank you for serving as our case study.

The only thing I will add further is that perhaps we are manifesting a problem when there really isn't one. Maybe a lot of guy don't actually have a problem when compared to the normal population. If someone can't finish at all, okay that's one thing. However, it's another if we're talking about guys over 35 years old trying to go 4, 5, 6 or 10 days orgasming 3,4, or 5 times a day. I'm not certain that it would be normal to be able to do that. The guys who can cum 12-16 times in 4 days, that's the abnormal population, not the guys finishing twice a day. Most of us are not 25 anymore.

Heck, I can't even masturbate 6 times in 2 days anymore flipping through hundreds of porn hub videos.

[Ggekko2009]

I am researching Medellin now and if I like it will start spacing Germany out in 6-8 week intervals and take 2-4 day runs down to Colombia so I can never be in Texas more than two consecutive weeks; Medellin can replace masturbation and in 3-4 days I shouldn't burn out and pussy costs pennies down there

You might want to check out Cartagena too, especially if you have never been to Colombia and do not speak Spanish.

[Kosher Kowboy]

Do you know approximately the longest streak you have gone without masturbating? "Experts" on those anti-fap testimonials recommend minimums of 90-180 days to train yourself to orgasm without the use of your own hand. Their stance is it needs to be 90-180 consecutive days so you can unlearn, break habits.

An idea might be to even eliminate manual stimulation that the WG gives you too. In other words, only manual or vaginal stimulation. If you can't orgasm, you can carry that orgasm into your session next week. At some point, just from sheer deprivation, you will explode. I admit these thoughts are unconventional, but they worked for me.
You are absolutely correct. Most locals and EU mongers have never pushed themselves for 20+ session in a 6-10 day time frame. But some international guys like you have reported extreme difficulty orgasming as early as day two. And many of the local EU mongers have done 2-4 day trips before, although I suspect their pace is not as urgent, maybe 10-12 sessions in a 4 day period.

I think Chongmal called this anti-viagra in another thread (rush and greed).

Chongmal is correct, anything that disrupts the chemistry in sessions such as rush and greed can be the anti Viagra, fully agree with him.

I think maybe 2 to 3 weeks might be the longest manual abstinence maybe more but with trips every 4-5 weeks I try to just hold off or see one here. I noticed one of my Cajun Cum Dumpsters from the great State of Louisiana has just arrived in town, might go dump one in her and see how it goes. Keep the pipes working with no manual stimulation as you suggest.

I think in your above comment to avoid manual stimulation from the WG you meant only oral and vaginal in the next line? I think you're maybe right, in having them jerk me with oil or lube I am probably making the ' job' more difficult in the long run.

When in good health I usually hit my brick wall on day 4, sometimes 5. I really need to find an off day activity to recharge on my 6-10 day trips. Or cut down my daily sessions to 2 not 3 or just do as some guys do and not cum, fuck as many as can until you simply pop as you say. And keep rolling.

I am researching Medellin now and if I like it will start spacing Germany out in 6-8 week intervals and take 2-4 day runs down to Colombia so I can never be in Texas more than two consecutive weeks; Medellin can replace masturbation and in 3-4 days I shouldn't burn out and pussy costs pennies down there