General Info

[Polyamorist]

If we speculate, I'm going with the theory that every weekend there is a police officer in a club sitting on the sofa with his favorite WG. When she takes him to the room and asks BJ with or without, he always opts for the option without.

Salaam, Mr Chongmal. If I were back in school and considering my career options it wouldn't be Ice Cream Taster any more. In this modern age "BBBJ Compliance Officer" seems like a far more attractive path.

[MarquisdeSade1]

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[Smoke Light]

If we speculate, I'm going with the theory that every weekend there is a police officer in a club sitting on the sofa with his favorite WG. When she takes him to the room and asks BJ with or without, he always opts for the option without.

If we continue to speculate, I think LE and other government officials favor much more smaller brothels and apartments rather than big clubs to be discrete. However, no doubt BBBJ mode is preferred by them just like by most of us here.

[Chongmal]

When I start my post with 'thinking', don't you feel it is obvious that I am speculating. But I am still holding onto my speculation even if you disagree.

If we speculate, I'm going with the theory that every weekend there is a police officer in a club sitting on the sofa with his favorite WG. When she takes him to the room and asks BJ with or without, he always opts for the option without.

[Rogue Nation]

When I start my post with 'thinking', don't you feel it is obvious that I am speculating. But I am still holding onto my speculation even if you disagree.

Police everywhere are probably much more corrupt than you think. You see it with drug trafficking all the time. All over Europe. I see no logic in prostitution being different. Heck I know it isn't. Like I told a local police investigator I met once: I could have single handedly nailed the entire local drug industry where I live (500 000 people area). No problem. But police has been told not to spend resources on it, and it is happening all over Europe and probably USA too. Aside from fining random drug addicts smaller silly fines.

Speculating? Sounded more like you're an expert on the European police and corruption. Or maybe you are confusing Romanian Nd Bulgarian police with Western European police. Just speculating.

[Zumboit]

In the Austria General Info thread I wrote up a list of FKKs and saunaclubs that I was able to find. I'd love to hear comments, additions or revisions.

[Sanuk327]

The condom law which makes it illegal to have sex with a prostitute without using a condom is the major part of the new regulation that affects customers. Other parts of the regulation affects brothel owners and the prostitutes. For example, all sex workers need to be registered to be allowed to work in Germany since January 1st.

There is no regulation against nudity or public sex in the clubs that I am aware of.

You also asked about the impact of the new laws. Well, reading this forum it is evident that the impact is a bit mixed. You can still get a blowjob without a condom in most clubs. Sometimes you need to pay extra, sometimes not. The registration requirement has scared some girls away from the business.

Thanks Hermann666, very helpful.

[ExpatLover]

Police everywhere are probably much more corrupt than you think. You see it with drug trafficking all the time. All over Europe. I see no logic in prostitution being different. Heck I know it isn't. Like I told a local police investigator I met once: I could have single handedly nailed the entire local drug industry where I live (500 000 people area). No problem. But police has been told not to spend resources on it, and it is happening all over Europe and probably USA too. Aside from fining random drug addicts smaller silly fines.

Probably you could also consider that the political authorities are not willing to stop drug trafficking just because they are sure that the drug dealers will never find a normal job and to make their income they will increase the attacks on people. Which will lead to a increase of social instability.

[Pistons]

Until proven wrong, it is human nature to speculate. Perhaps German cops (as well as cops everywhere) should consider more transparency if they don't like speculations.

[Pistons]

I do not think the German police are corrupted. A knee jerk reaction to the current problems at LR.

Police everywhere are probably much more corrupt than you think. You see it with drug trafficking all the time. All over Europe. I see no logic in prostitution being different. Heck I know it isn't. Like I told a local police investigator I met once: I could have single handedly nailed the entire local drug industry where I live (500 000 people area). No problem. But police has been told not to spend resources on it, and it is happening all over Europe and probably USA too. Aside from fining random drug addicts smaller silly fines.

[Pistons]

That is bullshit. You have no knowledge whatsoever why LR was checked by the police so your accusation is pure speculation and nonsense.

When I start my post with 'thinking', don't you feel it is obvious that I am speculating. But I am still holding onto my speculation even if you disagree.

[Hermann666]

My question was more about substance of new official regulations published in July 2017. I've heard that they effected public nudity, coach BJ and sex in public areas like kino in FKK clubs. Can somebody provide more specifics about these regulations.

The condom law which makes it illegal to have sex with a prostitute without using a condom is the major part of the new regulation that affects customers. Other parts of the regulation affects brothel owners and the prostitutes. For example, all sex workers need to be registered to be allowed to work in Germany since January 1st.

There is no regulation against nudity or public sex in the clubs that I am aware of.

You also asked about the impact of the new laws. Well, reading this forum it is evident that the impact is a bit mixed. You can still get a blowjob without a condom in most clubs. Sometimes you need to pay extra, sometimes not. The registration requirement has scared some girls away from the business.

[Sanuk327]

The LR raids have me thinking German police is highly corrupt since they have let certain other clubs pass. And the laws is asking to more corruption among the police. Like laying an easter egg on their front door.

My question was more about substance of new official regulations published in July 2017. I've heard that they effected public nudity, coach BJ and sex in public areas like kino in FKK clubs. Can somebody provide more specifics about these regulations.

[Chongmal]

That is bullshit. You have no knowledge whatsoever why LR was checked by the police so your accusation is pure speculation and nonsense.

I have stated this on the LR forum as well and feel confident with my comments. Most, if not all, clubs experienced controls prior to the new year. When certain things were found to be out of order, the club was informed follow up controls were conducted to verify reaction from the clubs management and compliance with regulations. In the case of LR, the follow up control showed the club still not compliant, which invited a more complete review and follow up controls. At this time the club is reacting to the more recent controls and working their way back from the negative opinions. It's also possible that a neighbor, private or business, is upset with the traffic the club generates, and has complained to the authorities or the authorities tracked negative statistical trends such as drink driving, hit and run accidents, vandalism, etc. I know I haven't been stopped by the police and controlled when leaving the club since February and I've seen less police presence near the club when leaving at 2 am.

In my experiences of personal and club control I think the police are doing their jobs. I haven't been drunk, my car and personal papers are in order so I continue on my way. The LR paperwork was found deficient so they are struggling with the repercussions. The club is still good unless you need alcohol but I think their is more it's management could do to coax back the weekday and early weekend customers. I've personally been told by them that the issues will be resolved eventually and the customers will return. I've also been told by many women they like dealing better with the customers they see in the club now but they just wish there were more of them.

[Vito Corleone]

The LR raids have me thinking German police is highly corrupt since they have let certain other clubs pass. And the laws is asking to more corruption among the police. Like laying an easter egg on their front door.

I do not think the German police are corrupted. A knee jerk reaction to the current problems at LR.