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  1. #14532
    Quote Originally Posted by Clodius1  [View Original Post]
    Agree with EA on this, prices are BSC after the kung flu, as if the 2017 law didn't F things up quite enough. Sharks prices almost comparable to Globe at this point? Then why risk Sharks bad service when you can get solid service at Globe? Peruse the German boards, service is a flop at Sharks somewhere between 25 to 40 percent of the time. Ouch. BTW, the German OP with the lengthy 2017 diatribe supra is full of shit. Yes, 2017 did FU the FKK scene quite a bit, but that does not explain how the OP at GT successfully held the line for price / performance until the covi--the closure. I've heard elsewhere that it was SPs that were responsible for the GT success model. They held the line on prices / service because they wanted access to its particular clientele that the club drew in from NE and BEL. Maybe BS, maybe not.

    Separate Q for EA, didn't you crash a Venus club in the NRW? Was it the one in Duisburg or Hamminkeln?
    The one in Hamminkeln. Great little club with a small line up and clean amenities. Service always reliable. The owner keeps a tight leash on the girls' service standards much like the managers of former GoldenTime.

    I think many mongers would agree with you that 2017 was a significant year that changed the FKK landscape for the worse. Many girls asking for a BBBJ upcharge was only one consequence. The bigger one was that registration heavily dampened the supply of new talent coming in. Less fresh talent so less fresh girls who have not already separated personal enjoyment of sex versus turning off that switch when in a room with a customer. Average age of girls have gone up and with that, average expectation of income where before 19-20 year old girls were happy finishing the day a couple hundred euros on top. As girls get older, their expectation of a good earning day goes up. Lastly, even less Germans and other western European girls than before. Only German girls now are the trashy ones. I even remember there being a Dutch girl in 2017.

    While COVID had more of an impact on price, I think 2017 laws had more of an impact on the trajectory of the FKK experience.

  2. #14531
    Quote Originally Posted by Clodius1  [View Original Post]
    Agree with EA on this, prices are BSC after the kung flu, as if the 2017 law didn't F things up quite enough. Sharks prices almost comparable to Globe at this point? Then why risk Sharks bad service when you can get solid service at Globe? Peruse the German boards, service is a flop at Sharks somewhere between 25 to 40 percent of the time. Ouch. BTW, the German OP with the lengthy 2017 diatribe supra is full of shit. Yes, 2017 did FU the FKK scene quite a bit, but that does not explain how the OP at GT successfully held the line for price / performance until the covi--the closure. I've heard elsewhere that it was SPs that were responsible for the GT success model. They held the line on prices / service because they wanted access to its particular clientele that the club drew in from NE and BEL. Maybe BS, maybe not.

    Separate Q for EA, didn't you crash a Venus club in the NRW? Was it the one in Duisburg or Hamminkeln?
    When You really experienced, You know 2017 law didn t change anything else than registration for girls. If I go to RTC today, I will get BBBJ, FK and AO for 30€ . Also, I prefer Sharks and Oase and Freubad than Globe now. Why? Because I find prettier girls and even at Freubad on Sunday evening after my extreme runs in Verbier Monts Gelé and Fort, than now at Globe and I don t need rules to play my game with girls when I m probably one of those who push them deepest in their intimacy when real french kiss and DATY to make them cum are more intimate for most girls than BBBJ or even AO fucking, maybe why some turned mad when we stop, when they came weekly to me to repeat. But in brothels, I only marry faithful for the good, not for the bad, even I m the most faithful as long getting pleasure. From my weekly subjective experiences. Germany is best potential with Freubad. Ch with HH 199/60 , for me.

  3. #14530
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Inflation yes, but nothing else that I know of went up 100%, not even gasoline.
    Agree with EA on this, prices are BSC after the kung flu, as if the 2017 law didn't F things up quite enough. Sharks prices almost comparable to Globe at this point? Then why risk Sharks bad service when you can get solid service at Globe? Peruse the German boards, service is a flop at Sharks somewhere between 25 to 40 percent of the time. Ouch. BTW, the German OP with the lengthy 2017 diatribe supra is full of shit. Yes, 2017 did FU the FKK scene quite a bit, but that does not explain how the OP at GT successfully held the line for price / performance until the covi--the closure. I've heard elsewhere that it was SPs that were responsible for the GT success model. They held the line on prices / service because they wanted access to its particular clientele that the club drew in from NE and BEL. Maybe BS, maybe not.

    Separate Q for EA, didn't you crash a Venus club in the NRW? Was it the one in Duisburg or Hamminkeln?

  4. #14529
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Look on your internet about salaries in petrol business in Texas.
    I didn't find anything even close to "basic worker" for USD 20 k per month. I am sure you found some before and can prove me wrong.

  5. #14528
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    Still waiting for the example job posting of "basic worker" for 20 k per month.
    Look on your internet about salaries in petrol business in Texas.

  6. #14527
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Working in petrol industry, coming from everywhere in US to Texas.
    Still waiting for the example job posting of "basic worker" for 20 k per month.

  7. #14526
    For fans, German manga Mio is on tour at Globe. Lovely and cute face.

  8. #14525

    FKK land after covid

    On 2020 , really enjoyed a multi orgasmic German ex Artemis at Globe for 140 per 30 and really liked GT Vienna where I went for Anita ex Bruggen, with wow discovery of Iranian Sepid.

    On 2021 , Sharks was really good with many 100/60 GFE rooms.

    2022 was my German year with many great Germans. Sharks improved on end of year with discovery of charming frenchie.

    2023 started really good, still with frenchie, I really enjoyed Carmen at Amesia even not wow Nayla. Ch and now found a wow Italian for 130/60 in NRW.

    I would say I still find at least same quality than before covid when I increased my expectations under covid becoming more picky than before, and higher level than most escorts now in Paris. Worthing the drive, when Germans are now so slow, needing to race technique kick in brakes when twice faster than most, ski shoes jumping from the back crashing in front seats, really violent, but fat heavy Milo Venus V8 make brakes too warm with high vibrations if not kicking like this, when Germans are too slow. Still very enjoyable FKK and have to try to stay on the track.

  9. #14524

    USA Sun Conditions

    A Mexican American reports the sun is really strong in the USA:

    https://youtu.be/TAQd5_ZFlqo?t=379

  10. #14523
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    Villa Venus in Duisburg? Not sure what you meant, is this an RTC or like Sauna Club Venus?
    Sauna club Venus and RTC Villa Venus are different. Both will full naked girls, when more and more rare in Hessen.

  11. #14522

    Villa Venus

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Bernds, sauna club Venus not RTC villa Venus. All RTC, many in NRW.
    Villa Venus in Duisburg? Not sure what you meant, is this an RTC or like Sauna Club Venus?

  12. #14521
    Quote Originally Posted by Abox79  [View Original Post]
    My limited experience is that seeing nude girls walking around in NRW FKK's is rare, I think fully nude is much more likely in Hessen. Others with up to date knowledge will confirm either way.
    Many are not anymore full naked now in Hessen, at Sharks and Oase.

  13. #14520
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    Can roughly list the names of the fully nude clubs in NWR? I can think of Babylon, Elsdorf, Luderland, Luderlounge and Grimberg. Are there any others?
    Bernds, sauna club Venus not RTC villa Venus. All RTC, many in NRW.

  14. #14519

    There aren't any?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    Can roughly list the names of the fully nude clubs in NWR? I can think of Babylon, Elsdorf, Luderland, Luderlounge and Grimberg. Are there any others?
    My limited experience is that seeing nude girls walking around in NRW FKK's is rare, I think fully nude is much more likely in Hessen. Others with up to date knowledge will confirm either way.

  15. #14518

    Question, fully nude clubs in North West Rhinephalia

    Can roughly list the names of the fully nude clubs in NWR? I can think of Babylon, Elsdorf, Luderland, Luderlounge and Grimberg. Are there any others?

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