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[UltraHappy]

For people who don't live in the EU there is no mechanism to make you pay speeding tickets. They can't suspend your drivers license in another country outside the EU. Similarly there would be no method to enforce the fine if any unless they prevent the defendant from leaving and even if they prevent him from leaving they will then have to allow him to work in Germany to earn money to pay the fine if he doesn't have any savings. So essentially the CBJ law is not enforceable for auslanders.

So, can I just start robbing stores and looting and pillaging all I want in Germany if I am a foreigner? If not, how does the enforcement for those crimes differ from Germany's ability to enforce the Kondompflicht Gesetz? Are you claiming that Germany can't jail me for unpaid fines?

I'm not familiar with Germany's criminal system, so I'm just asking.

[Lalabo]

Didn't you very recently put up a report that you sessioned with more than 10 girls in a day (I can't remember which club though). And don't forget that Yamayama can do more than 7 girls in a day for many many days in a row, and impart to the girls the pleasure of countless silentOs and normalOs (and also a screamingO on Betty). Luckily, the new law has been designed such that tongues need not be sheathed with a condom so that the girls can continue to have such pleasure from him.

Maybe I should have been a bit clear about what 'average' meant. I was actually referring to statistical average, not a specific individual. I am sorry if you have a friend named Average who could do lot more girls than the statistical average I referred to. That would confuse me too 😃.

Based on my observation the average age of men that visit these clubs is close to 50. Yes, there would be some guys younger than 50 and some guys older. Younger studs session more than 3 times where as older guys sessions less. I usually see much more older guys than young studs. Based on that I guesstimated the average to be 3. If generous it could be bumped up to 4, that is it. I highly doubt average is more than 4. I can't imaging 50 yo cumming more than 3 (or 4) times a day. Yes, you could take pills to get it up but being able to cum every time is a different thing.

About the 10 girls thing. I did it as an experiment, all the sessions were at GT except one which was at LR. Like most of the punters my objective always been to cum during every session. That limited the number of girls I could see during a day. That is not a problem during average lineup days but on a strong lineup days with lots of hot girls, the number of girls I could session with is what my physical ability allows. So I just wanted to see if I could do more sessions and still enjoy by not focusing on cumming during each one of them. I did 11 girls, 8 sessions (3 sessions were MFF), 5 cums and it was one of the very satisfying days in a club.

[DrPoon]

For people who don't live in the EU there is no mechanism to make you pay speeding tickets. They can't suspend your drivers license in another country outside the EU. Similarly there would be no method to enforce the fine if any unless they prevent the defendant from leaving and even if they prevent him from leaving they will then have to allow him to work in Germany to earn money to pay the fine if he doesn't have any savings. So essentially the CBJ law is not enforceable for auslanders.

Another example of the loss of touch with reality, massively exaggerating the number of punters. Compare it to, say, speeding tickets. How many are collected each year? And if you don't pay, the machinery is in place to make you pay.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Not sure in the percentage of information is really that high.

HB.

Hb you've mispelled misinformation.

[ExpatLover]

My record is 13 (orgasms / sessions; more than 13 girls since, though I did have some more than once, they usually worked in teams) during my first visit to Dorsten in 2006. Those were the days!

Congratulations but sorry what can be the interest of doing this sex marathon?

[SvenFKK]

I once met a Swedish guy at Artemis who did 14 in a day. Guy was just 23 yo. Still crazy tho.

My record is 13 (orgasms / sessions; more than 13 girls since, though I did have some more than once, they usually worked in teams) during my first visit to Dorsten in 2006. Those were the days!

[SvenFKK]

OK well what would happen in Germany if someone is prosecuted and convicted under the new law and they don't pay their fine? I would think they are not equipped there to put everyone in jail and they would have to have a massive increase in prisons in order to hold all the new offenders. Also does each defendant get an attorney and interpreter appointed for them? Maybe everyone should call the German governments bluff and defy the law to prove that they are not able to prosecute and collect money from anyone even if they are convicted.

Another example of the loss of touch with reality, massively exaggerating the number of punters. Compare it to, say, speeding tickets. How many are collected each year? And if you don't pay, the machinery is in place to make you pay.

[Citizen Kane]

OK well what would happen in Germany if someone is prosecuted and convicted under the new law and they don't pay their fine? I would think they are not equipped there to put everyone in jail and they would have to have a massive increase in prisons in order to hold all the new offenders. Also does each defendant get an attorney and interpreter appointed for them? Maybe everyone should call the German governments bluff and defy the law to prove that they are not able to prosecute and collect money from anyone even if they are convicted.

And maybe they will run out of Latex for all the extra condoms that will be required. The government really hasn't thought this through...

[Hessen Bub]

There was no question mark, so I wasn't really asking a question. Rather it was more a commentary on how useless this board can be (or how bad my reading comprehension is). Not pointing fingers or complaining--just accepting reality. This board is about 95% entertainment, 5% FKK info for me. I won't speak for others.

Not sure in the percentage of information is really that high.

HB.

[Pistons]

Didn't you very recently put up a report that you sessioned with more than 10 girls in a day (I can't remember which club though). And don't forget that Yamayama can do more than 7 girls in a day for many many days in a row, and impart to the girls the pleasure of countless silentOs and normalOs (and also a screamingO on Betty). Luckily, the new law has been designed such that tongues need not be sheathed with a condom so that the girls can continue to have such pleasure from him.

I once met a Swedish guy at Artemis who did 14 in a day. Guy was just 23 yo. Still crazy tho.

[DrPoon]

OK well what would happen in Germany if someone is prosecuted and convicted under the new law and they don't pay their fine? I would think they are not equipped there to put everyone in jail and they would have to have a massive increase in prisons in order to hold all the new offenders. Also does each defendant get an attorney and interpreter appointed for them? Maybe everyone should call the German governments bluff and defy the law to prove that they are not able to prosecute and collect money from anyone even if they are convicted.

[TankTank123]

Average monger can only do about 3 girls a day

Didn't you very recently put up a report that you sessioned with more than 10 girls in a day (I can't remember which club though). And don't forget that Yamayama can do more than 7 girls in a day for many many days in a row, and impart to the girls the pleasure of countless silentOs and normalOs (and also a screamingO on Betty). Luckily, the new law has been designed such that tongues need not be sheathed with a condom so that the girls can continue to have such pleasure from him.

[Member #4585]

Some of the posts Bitumen is probably referring to seems to be delayed reports from late June. Posted now in July.

Nope. Wrong post. Referencing post July visit report which started from 1 July.

[KC Questor]

Hear is my opinion if it is not too late for your planning.

Thank you very much for your response. I finished my planning today. I needed to include Berlin, as the last time I was in Germany it still was not easy to travel there (something about a big wall? So I have three days in Berlin, followed by four days in Frankfurt. I do not think I will have the time to visit NWR, although I may take a day trip. It will depend on the reports over the next 8 weeks. If it is worthwhile to go to Cologne or Bonn, I will drive up there.

You can easily visit Hessian big 5 clubs in 5 days or rotate between Oase and Sharks if you want to stick with top 2. I suggest checking out world as you going to have car.

That's my plan. World, Oase, Palace, Mainhatten, Dietzenbach, Sharks. Maybe Finca Erotica. It all depends on what reports look like.

I would consider including NRW (may stay for 2 nights) if you plan to visit Germany in near future and would like to checkout as many clubs as you can so that you can plan your next trip to the area with your favorite clubs. Another good reason to pick NRW would be the half price extras compared to Frankfurt. I have stayed in once in Cologne, few times in Dusseldorf and many times in Monchengladbach. I prefer Monchengladbach because it is the closest town to the clubs I usually visit (LR, GT and clubs across the border). ACA and Samya are about 1 hour drive away. Clubs in NRW are so spread out, no matter were you stay you will have to drive an hour or more to reach some clubs. One thing to keep in mind is that most of the NRW clubs are small with relatively small lineups, so there is a high risk of lineup disappointments. Monchengladback hotels are cheaper than one one in DUS and most of the hotels provide free parking. Hotels with A / see will cost bit more than the ones without. You should be able to get a decent hotel for 50-60 E / day.

I just don't think that I'll have time to visit many NWR clubs given my limited itinerary. I hope this won't be a once-in-a-lifetime visit, but I won't be visiting again in the near future. If I could spend 4-7 days in NWR I would, both because the clubs are cheaper there and historically there has been more options for AO there. We'll see how that changes. For this trip I will prefer the larger clubs with more amenities and lineups. Hotels in Frankfurt are more expensive -- apparently there is a car show the week I am there, and Oktoberfest starts that week too, so the hotels are much pricier than I was expecting. I found some good deals though, and am happy with this itinerary. I'll be sure to report how it goes, and I'll post in the Trip Announcements thread a few weeks before the trip.

Thanks again for the advice.

[Lalabo]

So this board is a wealth of information, and I am trying to read it all, but I do have one question for you experienced FKK visitors. I'll be spending a few days in Berlin, and then heading to the NWR & Hessen area. My flight is out of Frankfurt and I'm sure I could spend my whole time there. But I know I want to visit Koln and the NWR places as well. I'll have about 5 days and will probably have a car. I'd love some advice. This will be my first time at FKKs, although I am an experienced traveler.

Is it better to stay a couple days in NWR and then a couple of days in Frankfurt? Or should I stick to one home base and just take day trips? It looks like Koblenz is centrally located. Would that be a good place to stay? I looked all over this site for hotel recommendations bat am not finding anything. Does anyone have suggestions for a good cheap centrally-located hotel that is convenient for visiting FKKs (and maybe some regular sight-seeing)? PMs are welcome as well.

Hear is my opinion if it is not too late for your planning.

I would stick with one area if this is once in a while trip for you. Average monger can only do about 3 girls a day and the clubs in both areas (NRW and Frankfurt) provide enough choice for you to have your daily quota. Also you don't waste time commuting between these 2 areas. I would choose Frankfurt, it has many of large clubs with large lineups. You can easily visit Hessian big 5 clubs in 5 days or rotate between Oase and Sharks if you want to stick with top 2. I suggest checking out world as you going to have car.

I would consider including NRW (may stay for 2 nights) if you plan to visit Germany in near future and would like to checkout as many clubs as you can so that you can plan your next trip to the area with your favorite clubs. Another good reason to pick NRW would be the half price extras compared to Frankfurt. I have stayed in once in Cologne, few times in Dusseldorf and many times in Monchengladbach. I prefer Monchengladbach because it is the closest town to the clubs I usually visit (LR, GT and clubs across the border). ACA and Samya are about 1 hour drive away. Clubs in NRW are so spread out, no matter were you stay you will have to drive an hour or more to reach some clubs. One thing to keep in mind is that most of the NRW clubs are small with relatively small lineups, so there is a high risk of lineup disappointments. Monchengladback hotels are cheaper than one one in DUS and most of the hotels provide free parking. Hotels with A / see will cost bit more than the ones without. You should be able to get a decent hotel for 50-60 E / day.