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[HammerTime96]

Either China is under-reporting their infection rate, or they did a helluva good job with the bio-engineering of the virus. Not buying the efficient lockdown argument keinerlei.

Exactly, the numbers are a total joke, just like the Chinese GDP numbers. What else can you expect from ChiCom central planners?

[The Cane]

Either China is under-reporting their infection rate, or they did a helluva good job with the bio-engineering of the virus. Not buying the efficient lockdown argument keinerlei.

It's China. Which means they are lying again LOL!

[Clodius1]

In China, life is back to normal since June. Everything is under control, here the vaccination is not possible if you are above 59, the contrary from the rest of the world. Free vaccination everywhere but not enough candidats, but there is no stress on it. I wrote it many times the super power today is not the US but China and they are clever enough to keep very modest.

Either China is under-reporting their infection rate, or they did a helluva good job with the bio-engineering of the virus. Not buying the efficient lockdown argument keinerlei.

[Mursenary]

For sure, if your daughter or wife died, you would for sure think with your data, about exact science for medical?

Yes, always start with population level data. Then consider individualized details, and add more relevant data. Avoid emotions when making decisions whenever possible.

[PumDiPum]

German government is starting to treat people who don't have a negative test result like they are infectious, sick, a danger for the health care system, like they want to murder other people.

Believing everybody could be infected, but ignoring everybody could survived the infection without informing the government?

Quick look at the boring numbers. Yesterday, Germany had overall 286.500 active cases. A tiny minority of nearly 5000 are very very ill, unfortunately. Around half of these 5000 need a oxygen machine. Between 30% and 50% of the people who need a oxygen machine dying anyway. But don't tell that the God in white are trying to ride dead horses here. Artificial breathing is not the same like keeping people artificial alive. Hospitals who are working at the capacity limit, getting paid extra money by government. German hospitals are 'just in time' companies, they have no interest in building up more capacity. They are just interested in profit.

Show more solidarity with the overworked nurses, don't go to doctors!

Home office, home schooling, home prison. Where is the home hospital?

Since over a year pandemic, but German doctors are not able to optimize the treatment. 10 month for a vaccine, but still no coughing juice or pills to make the symptoms less dangerous?

The mutants are officially in Germany since two month now. Mutants don't make friends, from baby to granny. Where are the dead children? Not existing?

10 people doing 10 pcr tests, in the end one positive result, so the positive rate is 10%. Other 10 people doing 10 self or quick tests, in the end one positive result too, so here is the positive rate also 10%. All in together you have 20 tests (pcr, quick and self test) and two positive results, the positive rate is still 10%. But in Germany it's like this, everybody who has a positive self or quick test result, has to do a pcr test too, just to be sure that it is really corona. The possibility that the pcr test is also positive after the quick or self test was positive is very high. RKI is only counting the pcr tests and results, suddenly you have 11 pcr tests and two positive results, now is the positive rate is nearly 20%. The so much more infectious mutants.

Government is doing a lot to make sure that the doctors don't have to do the triage decision, they prefer to do it by themselves. Killing clubs, but letting the church open. No one who believes in God need a open church. A bit over 50% of the Germans are paying church taxes. How many of the Germans paying club taxes?

Government closes small restaurants at the corner because they are a danger for the health. But big American fast food chains are still open, because they are giving more people jobs (government need the taxes of them to offer all citizens "free tests" The tyrannic government decides all by themselves which life is more worth. Fast food chain thumbs up, restaurant thumbs down.

Good that the vaccine protects from getting very sick. But it doesn't protects from catching the virus, from getting the infection. Vaccinated people still can be infected and still can spread the virus, or don't they exhale aerosol?

In a few weeks Germany is running out of people who really want the vaccine, who really want freedom. So it was very wise of government to ban hate lines from the Internet.

But here is the good news. In Germany are enough people who want "Germany, but normal". Maybe they start to organise huge demonstrations in Duisburg Marxloh, protesting for opening the Shisha bars and redlight district. Bernie Hocke and Curio in the front row and in their back 1000 Arabien gang members.

Stay roots.

[Sirioja]

I would say that I would need to see the medical history of all 50 patients, stratify them into their background mortality, and analyze the results.

For sure, if your daughter or wife died, you would for sure think with your data, about exact science for medical? With so high knowledge about this virus, when even older than 50 yo men also die now after vaccine, so I won't take risk, I feel more safe free riding or full speed in Germany, when I feel more safe in Germany than playing snail falling asleep in Switzerland.

[Mursenary]

Is France a Catholic country? Considering 34% not religious and 29% atheist, it seems like at least 63% of the country are not Catholic. Wonder of the 37% religious, how many are protestants, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Witchens, etc. Looks like Atheism may be the largest religion in France.

Here's a Gallop poll that puts France in the top 10 most atheist and non-religious populations. In fact, it has France listed as the 4th most atheist and 8th least religious nation in the world. It breaks down the population to 34% not religious, 29% atheist, and only 37% religious. Combine that with the Constitutional decree that France shall be secular, it seems that claiming that France is a Catholic country is a load of horse shit motivated by pure contrarianism, very consistent with the typical conspiracy theorist character. It's opposition just for the sake of opposition, facts not needed.

https://sidmennt.is/wp-content/uploa...leysi-2012.pdf

I do find it funny that Romania is 89% religious, putting it in the top 10 religious countries, LOL.

[Mursenary]

What would you think if one of your relative died after vaccine, when we have now in France, some more than 50 and also men, from after AZ. I don t like much to play probability for my life and my relatives, but I was happy for them some of my relatives who were scared of virus, not anymore going out, could get Pfizer, if can help them for a normal life again. From my 2020 way of life, I think I can live with virus, even don t know versus south African or Brazilian now in EU.

I would say that I would need to see the medical history of all 50 patients, stratify them into their background mortality, and analyze the results.

[Sirioja]

Good thing I'm not scared of the vaccine-induced third testicle. Give me that 3rd shot baby. And 4th. And 5th!

Regardless, newest research still suggests that your fears of efficacy can be put on hold.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...57#post2551957

What would you think if one of your relative died after vaccine, when we have now in France, some more than 50 and also men, from after AZ. I don t like much to play probability for my life and my relatives, but I was happy for them some of my relatives who were scared of virus, not anymore going out, could get Pfizer, if can help them for a normal life again. From my 2020 way of life, I think I can live with virus, even don t know versus south African or Brazilian now in EU.

[Sirioja]

In China, life is back to normal since June. Everything is under control, here the vaccination is not possible if you are above 59, the contrary from the rest of the world. Free vaccination everywhere but not enough candidats, but there is no stress on it. I wrote it many times the super power today is not the US but China and they are clever enough to keep very modest.

China threaten to blacklist citizens and companies when not vaccined, with their low level vaccine. Is it your freedom, so many Chinese telling they are afraid of their government, like Russians about Putin. I don t always agree with Macron and previous, but when I m a real free mind, but was never scared of any president, even they were not all good. Wish for never LE Pen of course.

[ExpatLover]

I actually agree with a lot of this although I am less pessimist about vaccines. Lockdown efficiency, well that can buy some time in certain locations (AUS, NZ), but globally that ship has sailed. How is it that we don't hear of outbreaks in China?

Man you paint a dark future here.

In China, life is back to normal since June. Everything is under control, here the vaccination is not possible if you are above 59, the contrary from the rest of the world. Free vaccination everywhere but not enough candidats, but there is no stress on it. I wrote it many times the super power today is not the US but China and they are clever enough to keep very modest.

[Downandup]

Problem is that even if deaths so far have been few, far more have shown dangerously extreme amounts of white blood cells following the vaccines. 2.8% are showing these extreme numbers. While 8%+ are showing less increases, but still some increase. Which may cause problems long term.

I have not heard anything about this, the closest I've come to is that there is an elevated wbc count when fighting covid, the same as any other infection. Can you provide some credible citations for this?

[PaulInZurich]

Europe faced several medical scandals in the last 40 years, and trust is something that the people in responsibility have to win, it is not granted. Most of the people just want to get back the life from before, and the politicians make them thing that this will be possible if they get vaccinated and follow strictly the stupid rules of the different useless lockdown. And what if the vaccine are not efficient enough, if we need to get revaccinated every 6 months (hypothesis on the table in Israel), today he situation is worse that I ever expected, just check what was promised by the leaders 6 months back, and where we are today. There is a possibility that the life from 2019 will not come back before 10 or 20 years may be never. The situation is critical in 2 big countries Brazil and India what will happen there in the coming months will be very important for the rest of the world, many new variants can pop up and the vaccines could also face big efficiency issues to fight those variants.

I actually agree with a lot of this although I am less pessimist about vaccines. Lockdown efficiency, well that can buy some time in certain locations (AUS, NZ), but globally that ship has sailed. How is it that we don't hear of outbreaks in China?

Man you paint a dark future here.

[ExpatLover]

I don't think that Remdisivir can cause resisist covid because it stops replication and therefore would lessen the chance of resistance.

It is not what some top medical teams are saying, just have for example a look on the publications of the IHU.

[Mursenary]

Pfizer now say for third dose and yearly dose for mutants, they will make good business. I m afraid sad times to come, when UK mutant killed a lot since beginning of the year, but I m afraid south African and Brazilian may also kill a lot in EU, when killed in Summer in Brazil. High vaccine rate in UK, but still restrictions and also for so important today.

Good thing I'm not scared of the vaccine-induced third testicle. Give me that 3rd shot baby. And 4th. And 5th!

Regardless, newest research still suggests that your fears of efficacy can be put on hold.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...57#post2551957