General Info

[Mango Head]

So. I will ask a philosophical question of the more senior Mongers and the older gentlemen on looking back on money well spent or regrets?

I'm about your age, KaveMan, and have spent the better part of the last five years making bi-annual trips to the Germany specifically for FKKs or Berlin brothels. I supplement this with an occasional swing up to Canada. Given medical issues with my spouse, sex at home is not possible and has not been for nearly ten years.

I probably drop 15-20 K per year with escorts. This is not a minor piece of my annual income, but I set my limits, and it does not impact my broader financial goals. And like you, I count most of these dollars as extremely well spent (except when the services purchased are poor).

I struggled with enforced celibacy for the first five years after my marriage became sexless, but ultimately the stress became overwhelming. I won't generalize about all men, but my own biology simply cannot deal with the lack of intimacy, and I decided on escorts as the only viable way to lead a sane life. It's by no means a perfect situation, and I know that I am buying a fantasy, but my mental health has been far better since I started.

I'm sure we all ponder on the moral issues involved in our participation in this trade. For me, sex is a basic need, and every dollar I have spent with a woman in a mutually beneficial economic / emotional transaction has been a dollar well spent.

[KaveMan]

Trans Atlantic,

I've read in multiple threads that the quality of girls at Globe.

Is superior to FKKs?

My type is 18-25, slim, thin, blond, spinners.

Keep reading model types are at Globe.

[Trans Atlantic]

Hi TankTank,

Sounds like you have just been unlucky as you said!

My train left on time and arrived as scheduled. My only disappointment was that I was unaware at the time that I need not have paid 134 euro for the one way ticket had I done more homework! This time however I have puchased an internet ticket in advance and paid only 34 euros for the ticket. Yes that is not a typo! 100 euro saved! As for luggage. What do you really need?? A towel or a robe was all I needed and I got those as part of the entrance fee!

Long distance trains in Germany are priced similar to airline pricing (advanced purchase tickets will be a lot cheaper than last minute purchase).

My 5 day trip to Globe from USA will cost about $5000 ($2000 on Ladies / $3000 air / land / etc); might be $3500-4000 in future with better planning / travel rates.

I'm confused why you are picking Globe. Frankfurt and Dusseldorf would offer better selection and lower costs.

[KaveMan]

So. I will ask a philosophical question of the more senior Mongers and the older gentlemen on looking back on money well spent or regrets?

My 5 day trip to Globe from USA will cost about $5000 ($2000 on Ladies / $3000 air / land / etc); might be $3500-4000 in future with better planning / travel rates.

At age 46. When I look back on the money spent in life and what pure enjoyment I have received; below activities have ranged from $5000-100,000 over last 20 years.

-Collecting (vintage watches, classic cars, Art, etc).

-Traveling (in search of pussy) not finding mostly.

-Girlfriends (travel, dating, presents, issues).

-Restaurants / Bars / Clubs in USA.

-Shopping (gadgets, clothes, gear, liquor, etc.).

-Escorts ($2500/4 gals).

My conclusion, by a very long % is money spent on pussy is 100% well enjoyed.

I assume most of you budget $5000-10,000 per year and make this part of your life relaxation / enjoyment and may have over time cut budgets of other activities will less "benefit".

When looking back I am assuming most have concluded that spending $$$ to enjoy sex with about 10 Women in 20's is never money mis-spent.

[Perfectionist]

I have taken this 6 am train to Vienna last year. It is not a regional train, but an ICE. The seats recline less than an economy class plane seat, so you can't lie down unless the neighbouring seat is empty. Seats have to be reserved, and it was full the day I took it. The luggage rack area could be far from your seat, so there is nothing preventing someone from taking your luggage if you are asleep. If it is not too large, you can put it overhead, which would be safer. My train started 1 hour late even though Frankfurt was the start point of the journey, as the locomotive did not arrive in a Frankfurt on time. Because it started late, the delays accumulated as it had to stop before entering some other stations to wait for a slot. I did not reach Vienna till almost 4 pm. To get to Goldentime from Westbahnhof, take tram 6 to Geiereckstrasse, which is then just a 2-3 minute walk to Goldentime.

I also took the 8.xx am train earlier this year. The journey was just as bad, as the train halted in Nuremberg for a good 3 hours due to some signaling problem. I reached Vienna later than 6 pm and body was so tired I had to go straight to my hotel to sleep.

I am therefore rather unlucky compared to Perfectionist, and will probably fly the next time.

Hi TankTank,

Sounds like you have just been unlucky as you said!

My train left on time and arrived as scheduled. My only disappointment was that I was unaware at the time that I need not have paid 134 euro for the one way ticket had I done more homework! This time however I have puchased an internet ticket in advance and paid only 34 euros for the ticket. Yes that is not a typo! 100 euro saved! As for luggage. What do you really need?? A towel or a robe was all I needed and I got those as part of the entrance fee!

[Syzygies]

It is also strange, in Sauna Clubs some girls go topless. It actually seems the main dress code difference is that absolutely no men walk around with just towels.

Ha Ha! Would I get spoken to if I had just a towel? I never wear a robe (its generally too hot for one thing). However, I am also not attending a "Sauna Club" so I don't understand the difference. Sauna doesn't interest me, and I prefer girls to be naked.

For those interested in Frankfurt club Dessous days (to avoid them), HB listed the days in a very recent post. Having accidentally attended Oase, on a Thursday Dessous once or twice, I now make every effort to avoid it. Sharks is good on a Thursday for me.

[Brazil Specialist]

Hey Perfectionist,

Good first post. Hopefully a first of many to come.

I too am one of the few here who likes GT Vienna and rate it as one of my top go to places. As a side note, they will be opening a second location in Linz later this year.

It's unfortunate that you do not have PM functionality as it would be good to share some war stories with you and the girls that you have seen there.

With respect to other clubs and stunners, I suggest you try Globe in Zurich. It's not everyone's cup of tea but for me I consider it having a higher quality line up average and service over most of the higher top end German FKK clubs but it comes at a price. You will pay at least twice as much.

Howie

Good description of Globe. For those with more money then time, it is the place to go. The Swiss just do everything right. Also, I suppose, they get their pick of the girls, as the girls can make more money with less work (but with good discipline and behavior).

Hi all,

This is my first post on this site having accidentally stumbled upon Goldentime in Vienna. I am now a fully fledged lover of FKK!

My quest quite simply is to appreciate the beautiful eastern european ladies who have been blessed with the perfect ass!

Having first come acrosss Goldentime in April 13 I can happily say I have made 14 trips to a variety of FKK clubs. I'm hooked!

I have frequented Goldentime, Oase, The World, Palace and Artemis.

For those of you of have heard of the FKK clubs and are looking to visit for the first time then here is my verdict of my visits so far!

Palace. I was really disappointed with this place. It is dark and seedy and the girls are very pushy. The standard of ladies in July 13 was not so great if you are looking for stunners. In here it appears the 50 euro price is the minimum with most girls looking to upsell. This place is an indoor establishment only. I appreciate girls change regularly but for those of you looking to visit an FKK for the first time, this is not the one for you.

Artemis. Again, like Palace I was left disappointed. I was led to believe this was the cream of FKK clubs. Sadly most of the girls upsell and the entrance to the main area is like walking into a goldfish bowl and then walking the gauntlet. I had planned on doing a 2 nighter here but instead took a very very long drive from Berlin to Frankfurt to visit Oase. The standard of ladies at Artemis was good but not great although the numbers were good and the building had beautiful decor aswell as an outdoor area for sunbathing, relaxing or swimming.

The World. I arrived on a sunny day and was impressed right from the location venue. The layout of the World is first class. For those who enjoy outdoor sex and voyeurism this is the place to be! The eating area is the best of all the FKK clubs. There is a canteen where you can eat as much as you want and the food is great. For those who like their beer it is included in the entrance fee. Unlike the others that only include soft drinks. The only negative for me is that there were not enough stunners for my taste. I am a perfectionist who as previously mentioned adores the stunners who are blessed with an amazing ass. Think J Lo or Rihanna!!

Goldentime (Vienna) - I love this place. This is largely down to several ladies (one in particular) who are absolute stunners with the most amazing butts!! I just love taking one or two at a time to the cinema room where they will pleasure you (BBBJ) at no extra charge and then take you to one of the rooms. Inside or outside. A big plus for me is that there is a 24 hr card casino adjoining the club and you are allowed to enter and exit at your will. There is a buffett bar which does not disappoint. The club is not big but the ladies are plentiful. There is a small outside area but no lawn area. Entrance fee is 90 euros and the ladies 60 euros which is 20 euros more than entrance to the others and 10 euros more for the girls. I have not experienced any upsell here in the 7 visits made so far!

Oase (Frankfurt) - This is my favourite place with Goldentime running a close second. The standard of ladies is excellent with several stunners who know how to please! Again a visit to the cinema to get acquainted and then a visit to one of the wall to wall mirrored Egyptian themed rooms. My last visit I came across a Shakira lookalike who had what I can only describe as the best ass I have ever had the pleasure of pounding again and again! The outdoor area is large and has a great relaxation area whilst needing that downtime before the next conquest.

I am shortly to return and have found an ideal way to appreciate my 2 favourites. Goldentime in Vienna and Oase in Frankfurt. For those on a budget this is an ideal way to maximise a 2 day trip if time is of the essence. Get a flight to Frankfurt Main and then a train to Friedrichsdorf. For those who really want to be smart detrain at Friedrichsdorf and take a local train first stop to Burgholzhausen. From there turn on your mapping if you having this on your phone and type in OASE address and it is a beautiful 15 minute walk through along the country road to the gates of paradise!! In other words 4 euros gets you from the airport to OASE or for those who have deep pockets get a taxi!! Having spent the full day at Oase into the early hours take a 10 euro taxi to Friedrichsdorf at 4. 30 am and then take the train to Frankfurt Main where you can then board the 6. 16 am Ice Train direct from Frankfurt to Vienna. A 6 hour journey. The seats are very comfortable and saves you having to book a hotel! On arrival in Vienna take a 4 euro train journey to Wien where it is then a 5-10 minute walk to Goldentime.

I hope this helps those who are intrigued! For those of you who have frequented other FKK clubs and can recommend any stunners with amazing butts then I would be happy to hear from you!

Great survey. Which of these are "Sauna Clubs" and NOT nude FKK? How to avoid the "Dessous Days" where even the FKK club girls wear lingerie and bathing suits?

[Brazil Specialist]

I will repost this on the FKK General Info board, as this is a bit off topic here. I suggest you reply there and we continue discussion there.

Can someone tell me how to get in contact with the site admin? An admin that can not increase his own message quote is really problematic. Maybe some admin can contact me from a a nick that actually can receive messages?

Admin has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.

Good news! Thanks for this info.

Better that the girls have some clothing, like underwear, dress or bikini. This is far more sexy and teasing.

I will visit thesseldorf next week.

That is good for you, if you enjoy girls in lingerie. I personally hate the experience of taking a girl to a room to find out she has droopy small tits with stretch marks.

I want to be able to check out all girls and then decide what I want. So a FKK with topless girls is strongly preferred and saves me a lot of checking, guessing, and uncertainty.

Often I would pick a girl, had I seen her topless. I don't pick her, because I have no clue what a great set of boobs she has. A loss for everyone: the girl, me, and the club because I don't come back.

It is also strange, in Sauna Clubs some girls go topless. It actually seems the main dress code difference is that absolutely no men walk around with just towels.

Many don't realize there is a difference, some just assume the "FKK" was left off the name by accident. Or the club changed the way they operate. But you can see the heading of this thread is indeed 'sauna club'.



Fkk Mondial? Are the girls nude? If not, that headline should be changed. Same with Acapulco, who'ever started the thread incorrectly listed it as an Fkk club.

Maybe they started as FKK and later changed? Is there any tendency towards more dress? Note also that the main topic here is.

Home.

Forum.

Europe.

Germany. FKK Clubs.

I was unaware, because until now I have never seen a single club that was not nude: Globe, Mainhattan, Oase, Sudfass, .

Also, I think most people don't know the fine details, FKK vs. Sauna Club. Also, even the club's web site often uses the term FKK and Sauna Club interchangeably. Often it says "Sauna Club" but in the title tag it says FKK. Also, German saunas, even for families, are all nude.

Some are called FKK Sauna Club.

I am quite disappointed to find out that girls at Living Room, and at Magnum, are not nude, rather wear bikinis or other skimpy outfit.

When I asked, they said they are not a FKK but a Sauna Club.

Where are the clubs with real nudes, like Oase, Mainhattan in Frankfurt, and Globe in Zurich, etc. ?

Ok, to correct, topless would be good enough for me.

This is a bit off topic here, but anyone can give a list of true FKK clubs, and which ones are NOT? At least the ones that were FKK last year still are? Also, FKK clubs seem to have one lingerie day, and rumors are that some Sauna Clubs have at least 1-2 FKK days (which I could make an effort to pick).

I will repost this on the FKK General Info board, as this is a bit off topic here. I suggest you reply there and we continue discussion there.

[TankTank123]

Thank you for your report on Goldentimes in Vienna. I am indeed intrigued by your idea of spending all night at Oase and then boarding the morning 6:16 am train to Vienna. I've never taken one of the regional trains. Can you lay down and take a nap on these trains? Are the seats conducive to sleeping? Or are they like airplane seating? How far do the seats recline for example? Does the morning 6:16 am train have lots of extra seats, allowing you to lay down?
Probably a silly question, but what prevents someone from walking off the train with your luggage at the next stop?

I have taken this 6 am train to Vienna last year. It is not a regional train, but an ICE. The seats recline less than an economy class plane seat, so you can't lie down unless the neighbouring seat is empty. Seats have to be reserved, and it was full the day I took it. The luggage rack area could be far from your seat, so there is nothing preventing someone from taking your luggage if you are asleep. If it is not too large, you can put it overhead, which would be safer. My train started 1 hour late even though Frankfurt was the start point of the journey, as the locomotive did not arrive in a Frankfurt on time. Because it started late, the delays accumulated as it had to stop before entering some other stations to wait for a slot. I did not reach Vienna till almost 4 pm. To get to Goldentime from Westbahnhof, take tram 6 to Geiereckstrasse, which is then just a 2-3 minute walk to Goldentime.

I also took the 8.xx am train earlier this year. The journey was just as bad, as the train halted in Nuremberg for a good 3 hours due to some signaling problem. I reached Vienna later than 6 pm and body was so tired I had to go straight to my hotel to sleep.

I am therefore rather unlucky compared to Perfectionist, and will probably fly the next time.

[Vitrea]

Thank you for your report on Goldentimes in Vienna. I am indeed intrigued by your idea of spending all night at Oase and then boarding the morning 6:16 am train to Vienna. I've never taken one of the regional trains. Can you lay down and take a nap on these trains? Are the seats conducive to sleeping? Or are they like airplane seating? How far do the seats recline for example? Does the morning 6:16 am train have lots of extra seats, allowing you to lay down?

Probably a silly question, but what prevents someone from walking off the train with your luggage at the next stop?

I am a big fan of Golden time Vienna as well but I don't think I would leave FRA to go to VIE just for Golden Time. My humble opinion.

[Howie]

Goldentime (Vienna) - I love this place.

For those of you who have frequented other FKK clubs and can recommend any stunners with amazing butts then I would be happy to hear from you!

Hey Perfectionist,

Good first post. Hopefully a first of many to come.

I too am one of the few here who likes GT Vienna and rate it as one of my top go to places. As a side note, they will be opening a second location in Linz later this year.

It's unfortunate that you do not have PM functionality as it would be good to share some war stories with you and the girls that you have seen there.

With respect to other clubs and stunners, I suggest you try Globe in Zurich. It's not everyone's cup of tea but for me I consider it having a higher quality line up average and service over most of the higher top end German FKK clubs but it comes at a price. You will pay at least twice as much.

Howie

[UltraHappy]

Goldentime (Vienna) - I love this place.

Oase (Frankfurt) - This is my favourite place with Goldentime running a close second. The standard of ladies is excellent with several stunners who know how to please!

Having spent the full day at Oase into the early hours take a 10 euro taxi to Friedrichsdorf at 4. 30 am and then take the train to Frankfurt Main where you can then board the 6. 16 am Ice Train direct from Frankfurt to Vienna. A 6 hour journey. The seats are very comfortable and saves you having to book a hotel! On arrival in Vienna take a 4 euro train journey to Wien where it is then a 5-10 minute walk to Goldentime.

I hope this helps those who are intrigued! For those of you who have frequented other FKK clubs and can recommend any stunners with amazing butts then I would be happy to hear from you!

Thank you for your report on Goldentimes in Vienna. I am indeed intrigued by your idea of spending all night at Oase and then boarding the morning 6:16 am train to Vienna. I've never taken one of the regional trains. Can you lay down and take a nap on these trains? Are the seats conducive to sleeping? Or are they like airplane seating? How far do the seats recline for example? Does the morning 6:16 am train have lots of extra seats, allowing you to lay down?

Probably a silly question, but what prevents someone from walking off the train with your luggage at the next stop?

[Perfectionist]

Hi all,

This is my first post on this site having accidentally stumbled upon Goldentime in Vienna. I am now a fully fledged lover of FKK!

My quest quite simply is to appreciate the beautiful eastern european ladies who have been blessed with the perfect ass!

Having first come acrosss Goldentime in April 13 I can happily say I have made 14 trips to a variety of FKK clubs. I'm hooked!

I have frequented Goldentime, Oase, The World, Palace and Artemis.

For those of you of have heard of the FKK clubs and are looking to visit for the first time then here is my verdict of my visits so far!

Palace. I was really disappointed with this place. It is dark and seedy and the girls are very pushy. The standard of ladies in July 13 was not so great if you are looking for stunners. In here it appears the 50 euro price is the minimum with most girls looking to upsell. This place is an indoor establishment only. I appreciate girls change regularly but for those of you looking to visit an FKK for the first time, this is not the one for you.

Artemis. Again, like Palace I was left disappointed. I was led to believe this was the cream of FKK clubs. Sadly most of the girls upsell and the entrance to the main area is like walking into a goldfish bowl and then walking the gauntlet. I had planned on doing a 2 nighter here but instead took a very very long drive from Berlin to Frankfurt to visit Oase. The standard of ladies at Artemis was good but not great although the numbers were good and the building had beautiful decor aswell as an outdoor area for sunbathing, relaxing or swimming.

The World. I arrived on a sunny day and was impressed right from the location venue. The layout of the World is first class. For those who enjoy outdoor sex and voyeurism this is the place to be! The eating area is the best of all the FKK clubs. There is a canteen where you can eat as much as you want and the food is great. For those who like their beer it is included in the entrance fee. Unlike the others that only include soft drinks. The only negative for me is that there were not enough stunners for my taste. I am a perfectionist who as previously mentioned adores the stunners who are blessed with an amazing ass. Think J Lo or Rihanna!!

Goldentime (Vienna) - I love this place. This is largely down to several ladies (one in particular) who are absolute stunners with the most amazing butts!! I just love taking one or two at a time to the cinema room where they will pleasure you (BBBJ) at no extra charge and then take you to one of the rooms. Inside or outside. A big plus for me is that there is a 24 hr card casino adjoining the club and you are allowed to enter and exit at your will. There is a buffett bar which does not disappoint. The club is not big but the ladies are plentiful. There is a small outside area but no lawn area. Entrance fee is 90 euros and the ladies 60 euros which is 20 euros more than entrance to the others and 10 euros more for the girls. I have not experienced any upsell here in the 7 visits made so far!

Oase (Frankfurt) - This is my favourite place with Goldentime running a close second. The standard of ladies is excellent with several stunners who know how to please! Again a visit to the cinema to get acquainted and then a visit to one of the wall to wall mirrored Egyptian themed rooms. My last visit I came across a Shakira lookalike who had what I can only describe as the best ass I have ever had the pleasure of pounding again and again! The outdoor area is large and has a great relaxation area whilst needing that downtime before the next conquest.

I am shortly to return and have found an ideal way to appreciate my 2 favourites. Goldentime in Vienna and Oase in Frankfurt. For those on a budget this is an ideal way to maximise a 2 day trip if time is of the essence. Get a flight to Frankfurt Main and then a train to Friedrichsdorf. For those who really want to be smart detrain at Friedrichsdorf and take a local train first stop to Burgholzhausen. From there turn on your mapping if you having this on your phone and type in OASE address and it is a beautiful 15 minute walk through along the country road to the gates of paradise!! In other words 4 euros gets you from the airport to OASE or for those who have deep pockets get a taxi!! Having spent the full day at Oase into the early hours take a 10 euro taxi to Friedrichsdorf at 4. 30 am and then take the train to Frankfurt Main where you can then board the 6. 16 am Ice Train direct from Frankfurt to Vienna. A 6 hour journey. The seats are very comfortable and saves you having to book a hotel! On arrival in Vienna take a 4 euro train journey to Wien where it is then a 5-10 minute walk to Goldentime.

I hope this helps those who are intrigued! For those of you who have frequented other FKK clubs and can recommend any stunners with amazing butts then I would be happy to hear from you!

[EastGoing]

Although I have never been with her, I am sure blonde Italian Sylvana with a stripper's body physique and swollen pink labia (who is currently at FKK Sharks though has been known to work also at FKK Paradise and FKK World) should be able to accommodate all of your needs as described above.
On the contrary, she may end up ravaging you rather than you on her, LOL.

Kave Man may have some liking for strange or strong stuff, but telling him to look for Silvana seems to me quite teasing: he wants girls under 25, slim with good bodies. The Silvana who used to work in World, at least the one I know, is more than 25... per leg, an old lady kept together by plastic surgeons.
Even if I had no clue about her skills, I was trying to figure out how could a customer choose her among so many young girls who could well be at least her daughters... actually, mostly, her grand-daughters

[Hessen Bub]

Claudia (Ex-Jenny at Oase, Paradise) at Globe will do all this with pleasure.

http://www.club-globe.ch/main/supers...il.php?id=1519

HB.