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[Myrmidon]

. So choose which type of girls and environment you like.

Environment is a big factor for me: in Canada you can wait between sessions in your hotel room, go to strip clubs (more cost) , or go out to see the sights (Mtl is very beautiful, but the drivers?) While in FKK you have all those beautiful naked women parading around, approaching you etc, to amuse you 'tween sessions. And getting around on PT is cheap & easy.

Finally, the two dollars are usually closer than the Euro & the dollars.

Myr.

[LilJoey]

Liljoey, Medellin and Cartagena are very safe, if you use basic precautions, which is true for most places, I assume even for Kiev. MDE and CTG are definitely more safer than San Jose CR or cities in DR. The chicas are also hotter. Buenos Aires has gorgeous chicks as well but they are not true latinas. They have more european attitude and a bit less passionate than a latina. If safety is still a issue but you want to experience beautiful light skinned latinas go to Saint Martin (SXM). I have been to all these places more than once including several FKK trips. You have inspired me to consider Kiev.

I've stated explicitly what to do to minimize those risks in CR and DR so that they don't pertain to the situation you would be in. In San Jose if one stays inside the secure Delrey Hotel and simply does not expose himself to the risk that exists in walking around the darkened streets of San Jose at night, then what goes on outside the Delrey Hotel is irrelevant. Similarly, if one mongers at the locations I mentioned in the DR and does not go walking at night into unknown neighborhoods and streets, it will be ok.

So it could be helpful to describe with a little more detail how one can monger safely in the Medellin and Cartagena destinations, as the girls are spread out in different locations and one must go to where they are, what are the risks and how to avoid those risks.

It is a fact that some of the hottest girls at the Delrey were the Columbianas. Buenos Aires is very costly airfare all the time, but is definitely an interesting destination. I wanted to go to Saint Martin but never found airfare I liked. But it's on my list. But since it's mostly columbian women that go there, I assume one could go to Medellin to meet the same type of Columbiana too.

[Nille Copenhagen]

I agree with you that FKK's in Germany are an awesome trip

I'm amazed that you guys bother to cross the Atlantic to Europe to get laid.

[LilJoey]

I'm familiar with the CR reports, I've read them from time to time (when my buddies are planning trips) but I always keep coming back to Germany. Only a few cities in the states have airfare to CR for $500 or less (Boston, Chicago, Miami) , if your not in one of those cities, airfare is always in the $800 range. Airfare's from my hometown to the hobby destinations of europe, Costa rica and montreal have always been extremely close. Sad to say that all of these airfare's used to be half what I'm seeing the last two years.

Montreal is a blast, I've had some very attractive girls show up. Then again I've also waited hours in the room waiting for them and half of the time their photo's have been photoshopped extensively. I even got the chance to do an 18 year old rookie in Toronto as her first client ever, cutie with massive natural DD's. All those great times don't add up to the adventure's of one trip to Germany. In the end its really hard to pass up the fkk clubs and the ability to screw a hot chick and pay her afterwards for services provided, little to no negotiating needed.

Currently from NY there are fares on Spirit Air to San Jose, Costa Rica of $479 in the next few months. Sometimes TACA airline has low fares. If you get to miami on any airline there are often quite low fares from miami to SJO. You have to watch for the fares. I don't know which city you're referring to coming from. I've figured out a cheaper way to fly to Montreal since prices have gone up. I can get cheap flights into Burlington Vermont, and rent a car for a 1hr45 drive into Montreal, although I don't recommend that drive when there's risk of snow in the mountains on the way into Montreal.

The risk of bad results and waiting hours in Montreal is minimized by dealing with the reputable agencies which have a good reputation for being real. The main ones are:

http://www.montrealxxxtase.com/

http://www.devilishescorts.com/tabindex.aspx

http://www.montrealgirlsonfire.ca/

http://www.eleganzaescorts.com/

http://www.chloesplayground.net/

I agree with you that FKK's in Germany are an awesome trip and the Romanians and Bulgarians that predominate are pretty hot and swarthy and dark looking like those French canadians who have an Indian mix in their bloodline. Economics of a trip to Montreal versus Frankfurt show the costs to be slightly higher to go to Fkk's in Europe, but overall comparable. The airfare to europefrom NY is higher by $200 or more dollars. The cost of hotels is similar. You can get a very nice hotel from between $80 to $150, but in Montreal this is much more important since you are having the girls come to your hotel room and in Germany the hotel is just for you to sleep. Assuming one plans to at least do three sessions of 1 hour each at an FKK on a given day, the total costs are 100 Euro / hr plus 75Euro entrance, for a total of 375 Euro ($505) per day at the FKK. Three 1 hour sessions in Montreal at $180 / hr, would total $540. So the sessions costed only $35 more in Montreal for the same three hours of sex. It's not a large difference. Over three days of a weekend, assuming the same pace, would result in spending a little over $100 less on sessions in Germany but spending $200 more in airfare. So it cost only $100 more to monger in FKK in Frankfurt than to do the same amount of sessions in Montreal. Not a big economic difference. So choose which type of girls and environment you like, or mix it up and alternate the trips. I still go on the latin american trips because the much lower session fees and lower airfare make it a significantly less costly trip than europe.

[Vitrea]

I have been a regular at this thread for the last few years. Am planning my first visit to Germany for precisely this purpose. Looking for a decent place to stay in less than 50 euro range as I want to conserve all my cash for the main event. Google maps shows a place called Pension wall as the nearest to Oase, I gather it would be walking distance from there. I have no knowledge of German Language, keeping that in mind suggest me a place that should serve my purpose.

Thanks in advance.

You already got good advice from Dedalus. One more point: You are likely to visit more than one club if you are there more than one day. Rental car makes even more sense then and hotel location is less important. Also, if you choose to walk to Oase, you may be walking back at 2 AM on a cold winter night! That probably would not be not a great idea even in Germany.

[Vitrea]

Breadman, I myself prefer the look of the caucasian tall blond or brunette types with great body shape that abounds in Eastern European countries. However, the more petite nicely curved latina types can be sizzling hot in a different way.

Sometimes when I am not seeing an abundance of pretty girls at the Delrey Hotel, I ask myself why I came there instead of going to Kiev or FKK's in Germany. But, nevertheless in the interests of variety I travel to latin american destinations where p4p costs are very low, when the price is much lower for airfare than to Europe. If the cost would be equal, I would probably head for the Frankfurt FKK's. However, for example, I just booked the weekend of March 23 to 26 in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic for an airfare of $379. That's as low as I've seen it, so it was irresistable. Likewise, when the airfare to San Jose, Costa Rica goes below $500, it becomes a welcome opportunity for a great trip. I also like the look of the French Canadian type of girls one can have in Montreal, a very safe destination, where the hourly rate of good GFE service is around $180 / hr. I have never been to Rio in Brazil, but am very interested in going there, as well as to Medellin, Columbia, but am also concerned about security and safety.

In San Jose, Costa Rica, the standard recommendation is that at nighttime one must go from point A to point B only by taxi. However, security at the Delrey Hotel is very high, with ex-military looking guys with earpieces in their ears manning the doors. No one gets in without I'd and search. Girls must give their I'd to security before going upstairs with a guest and only get it back when they leave. There are room safes in all the rooms. So on a short weekend trip, one can stay for two nights at the Delrey Hotel with adequate security and have enough pussy there to keep a guy occupied all night. During the day, you can walk to the nearby brothels with no security concerns, or remain at the Delrey because there are girls coming there all day too. The brothels are a lower cost option though.

In Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic I usually stay at the Intercontinental Hotel and there are about four "casas" each with 20 to 30 girls or more in the immediate vicinity of one block away and a relatively safe walk at any time, as well as the Copa nightclub. Unfortunately, the hotel likes to charge a $30 guest fee to bring girls in. But I like the upscale class of the hotel, its pool area and other facilities. Usually, it lists for around $110 / nite for a standard room, so it's the lowest priced Intercontinental facility in any country I've seen. So despite the "chica' fee, I have stayed at the Intercontinental because of its location in proximity to some prime chica action, and its upscale class. However, if you read the thread on Santo Domingo, you will see other less imposing and cheaper hotels recommended which are more chica friendly, as well as warnings to stay away from hotels which are not chica friendly at all, and info on the other casas and strip clubs. Most casas have an incall option as well. I don't know the cleanliness or comfort conditions of those options as I have never done an incall at a casa, and prefer the comfort and cleanliness of my room at the Intercontinental.

The scene in Sosua, a town on the north coast of the Dominican Republic a bit to the east of Puerto Plata, is also pretty safe, and centers around Classico's, a disco club, which is walking distance around the corner from a recommended hotel called the New Garden Hotel. I walked hot young girls back from Classico's to my room at the New Garden and always felt safe. To the west of Puerto Plata was also Blackbeard's Adult Resort a small hotel with a pool and a bevy of chicas on staff of medium quality, but very low cost, and an ideal place for guys who want it very easy. You just come out of your room, choose a girl from those lounging at the pool or restaurant area, and go back to your room for some fun. Read about it on the thread. I did it as my first trip to DR, but didn't get impressed with the level of looks of the girls there. You can also take a ride in a taxi from Blackbeard's into Puerto Plata and go and see some really hot girls at some of the strip clubs in Puerto Plata who go for full service too at a higher price, that is still low compared to Europe's prices.

Hope this answers your query, and if you have an interest in latinas, have a try, as safety should not prevent you in the above locations that I have enjoyed.

I have safety concerns about Columbia and will do more research on it before going. Rio in Brazil I would not do as a solo adventure.

LJ

Liljoey, Medellin and Cartagena are very safe, if you use basic precautions, which is true for most places, I assume even for Kiev. MDE and CTG are definitely more safer than San Jose CR or cities in DR. The chicas are also hotter. Buenos Aires has gorgeous chicks as well but they are not true latinas. They have more european attitude and a bit less passionate than a latina. If safety is still a issue but you want to experience beautiful light skinned latinas go to Saint Martin (SXM). I have been to all these places more than once including several FKK trips. You have inspired me to consider Kiev.

[Breadman]

Breadman, I myself prefer the look of the caucasian tall blond or brunette types with great body shape that abounds in Eastern European countries. However, the more petite nicely curved latina types can be sizzling hot in a different way.

Sometimes when I am not seeing an abundance of pretty girls at the Delrey Hotel, I ask myself why I came there instead of going to Kiev or FKK's in Germany. But, nevertheless in the interests of variety I travel to latin american destinations where p4p costs are very low, when the price is much lower for airfare than to Europe. If the cost would be equal, I would probably head for the Frankfurt FKK's. However, for example, I just booked the weekend of March 23 to 26 in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic for an airfare of $379. That's as low as I've seen it, so it was irresistable. Likewise, when the airfare to San Jose, Costa Rica goes below $500, it becomes a welcome opportunity for a great trip. I also like the look of the French Canadian type of girls one can have in Montreal, a very safe destination, where the hourly rate of good GFE service is around $180 / hr. I have never been to Rio in Brazil, but am very interested in going there, as well as to Medellin, Columbia, but am also concerned about security and safety.

LJ

I'm familiar with the CR reports, I've read them from time to time (when my buddies are planning trips) but I always keep coming back to Germany. Only a few cities in the states have airfare to CR for $500 or less (Boston, Chicago, Miami) , if your not in one of those cities, airfare is always in the $800 range. Airfare's from my hometown to the hobby destinations of europe, Costa rica and montreal have always been extremely close. Sad to say that all of these airfare's used to be half what I'm seeing the last two years.

Montreal is a blast, I've had some very attractive girls show up. Then again I've also waited hours in the room waiting for them and half of the time their photo's have been photoshopped extensively. I even got the chance to do an 18 year old rookie in Toronto as her first client ever, cutie with massive natural DD's. All those great times don't add up to the adventure's of one trip to Germany. In the end its really hard to pass up the fkk clubs and the ability to screw a hot chick and pay her afterwards for services provided, little to no negotiating needed.

[LilJoey]

I'm very selective when it comes to latino women AND selecting dangerous hobby locations such as Rio and Costa rica, friends of mine have done many trips and have shared their photos and their close calls. Both have been enough to steer me to europe. I would like your opinion on how the women and the overall safety of your various hobby destinations. How do they stack up to europe?

Breadman, I myself prefer the look of the caucasian tall blond or brunette types with great body shape that abounds in Eastern European countries. However, the more petite nicely curved latina types can be sizzling hot in a different way.

Sometimes when I am not seeing an abundance of pretty girls at the Delrey Hotel, I ask myself why I came there instead of going to Kiev or FKK's in Germany. But, nevertheless in the interests of variety I travel to latin american destinations where p4p costs are very low, when the price is much lower for airfare than to Europe. If the cost would be equal, I would probably head for the Frankfurt FKK's. However, for example, I just booked the weekend of March 23 to 26 in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic for an airfare of $379. That's as low as I've seen it, so it was irresistable. Likewise, when the airfare to San Jose, Costa Rica goes below $500, it becomes a welcome opportunity for a great trip. I also like the look of the French Canadian type of girls one can have in Montreal, a very safe destination, where the hourly rate of good GFE service is around $180 / hr. I have never been to Rio in Brazil, but am very interested in going there, as well as to Medellin, Columbia, but am also concerned about security and safety.

In San Jose, Costa Rica, the standard recommendation is that at nighttime one must go from point A to point B only by taxi. However, security at the Delrey Hotel is very high, with ex-military looking guys with earpieces in their ears manning the doors. No one gets in without ID and search. Girls must give their ID to security before going upstairs with a guest and only get it back when they leave. There are room safes in all the rooms. So on a short weekend trip, one can stay for two nights at the Delrey Hotel with adequate security and have enough pussy there to keep a guy occupied all night. During the day, you can walk to the nearby brothels with no security concerns, or remain at the Delrey because there are girls coming there all day too. The brothels are a lower cost option though.

In Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic I usually stay at the Intercontinental Hotel and there are about four "casas" each with 20 to 30 girls or more in the immediate vicinity of one block away and a relatively safe walk at any time, as well as the Copa nightclub. Unfortunately, the hotel likes to charge a $30 guest fee to bring girls in. But I like the upscale class of the hotel, its pool area and other facilities. Usually, it lists for around $110 / nite for a standard room, so it's the lowest priced Intercontinental facility in any country I've seen. So despite the "chica' fee, I have stayed at the Intercontinental because of its location in proximity to some prime chica action, and its upscale class. However, if you read the thread on Santo Domingo, you will see other less imposing and cheaper hotels recommended which are more chica friendly, as well as warnings to stay away from hotels which are not chica friendly at all, and info on the other casas and strip clubs. Most casas have an incall option as well. I don't know the cleanliness or comfort conditions of those options as I have never done an incall at a casa, and prefer the comfort and cleanliness of my room at the Intercontinental.

The scene in Sosua, a town on the north coast of the Dominican Republic a bit to the east of Puerto Plata, is also pretty safe, and centers around Classico's, a disco club, which is walking distance around the corner from a recommended hotel called the New Garden Hotel. I walked hot young girls back from Classico's to my room at the New Garden and always felt safe. To the west of Puerto Plata was also Blackbeard's Adult Resort a small hotel with a pool and a bevy of chicas on staff of medium quality, but very low cost, and an ideal place for guys who want it very easy. You just come out of your room, choose a girl from those lounging at the pool or restaurant area, and go back to your room for some fun. Read about it on the thread. I did it as my first trip to DR, but didn't get impressed with the level of looks of the girls there. You can also take a ride in a taxi from Blackbeard's into Puerto Plata and go and see some really hot girls at some of the strip clubs in Puerto Plata who go for full service too at a higher price, that is still low compared to Europe's prices.

Hope this answers your query, and if you have an interest in latinas, have a try, as safety should not prevent you in the above locations that I have enjoyed.

I have safety concerns about Columbia and will do more research on it before going. Rio in Brazil I would not do as a solo adventure.

LJ

[Nille Copenhagen]

I'd recommend hitting Bernd's for the experience, but be prepared to move on if it doesn't suit your tastes. Might be worth it to hook up with a regular when hitting this place. Iseeu is the man to talk with when it comes to Bernd's.

I've seen guys left Bernds in disappointment without any session at all and it was a Friday. So did my fellow friend.

Later in the evening we hit Samya and had a lot of fun.

[Dedalus]

Hey thanks a ton for the quick and informative response. Planning my trip mid April would definitely stay for a week. Had bernds on my list and wanted to try a swingers club also on one of the nights. Would like advice as to which one I should consider as I am a first timer. Which swinger / partytreff should I plan for which would be easily accessible from frankfurt? Was planning on taking a rental for at least part of the week if not the whole week. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Guys this forum is a god send for us mongers and Germany is certainly my most coveted destination. Cheers!

Hey S2111,

Personally I'm not such a fan of the swinger clubs. Only hit them a few times in the past. Pretty hit or miss, although they sometimes pepper the attendance rolls with a working starlet or three.

I'm a fan of Bernd's, the Schieferhof service standards and the Wild West sexual attitudes on display there. I also think the line-up is not nearly as dominated by Grandma-types as some people say. However the eye-candy factor is somewhat lower across the board, and while you won't find the wild goings-on at Oase and World that you will see at Bernd's (unless you step into the Kino) I believe that with a little effort a Gent can score sessions on par or better than the "Hof" de riguer at most of the bigger German clubs. I'd recommend hitting Bernd's for the experience, but be prepared to move on if it doesn't suit your tastes. Might be worth it to hook up with a regular when hitting this place. Iseeu is the man to talk with when it comes to Bernd's.

Cheers,

Dedalus

[Skinner2111]

Hey S 2111,

How long are you planning on staying and when are you planning your trip?

Pension Wall is in the midst of nowhere. You can walk to Oase (10 minutes or so) but there's practically nothing else other than residences in that area.

I'd go for the B and B Nord (10 minute drive to Oase) or the Mercure in Friedrichsdorf. B and B is less than 50 EUR on off Messe dates and the Mercure can be had for less tha 50 if you book ahead and catch a deal. I personally prefer the B and B due to the free Internet and proximity to Micky D's and other eateries.

If you are staying a few days or over a weekend, I can't recommend enough the advantages of renting a car for the duration. Apart from the flexibility and the ease of visiting other clubs in the area, you will probably come off cheaper than what you will eventually invest in taxis and public transportation. A weekend rental at Hertz can be as low as 60 EUR (Friday to Monday) if you follow some booking advice already stated in these threads.

If your doing just one day, then I'd still opt for the B and B and an Avis Basic rental. If your planning a long stay, then I promise you that you'll want to hit more places than just Oase and having a little travel flexibility is going to be valuable.

Good luck and have fun,

Dedalus

Hey thanks a ton for the quick and informative response. Planning my trip mid April would definitely stay for a week. Had bernds on my list and wanted to try a swingers club also on one of the nights. Would like advice as to which one I should consider as I am a first timer. Which swinger / partytreff should I plan for which would be easily accessible from frankfurt? Was planning on taking a rental for at least part of the week if not the whole week. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Guys this forum is a god send for us mongers and Germany is certainly my most coveted destination. Cheers!

[Dedalus]

I have been a regular at this thread for the last few years. Am planning my first visit to Germany for precisely this purpose. Looking for a decent place to stay in less than 50 euro range as I want to conserve all my cash for the main event. Google maps shows a place called Pension wall as the nearest to Oase, I gather it would be walking distance from there. I have no knowledge of German Language, keeping that in mind suggest me a place that should serve my purpose.

Thanks in advance.

Hey S 2111,

How long are you planning on staying and when are you planning your trip?

Pension Wall is in the midst of nowhere. You can walk to Oase (10 minutes or so) but there's practically nothing else other than residences in that area.

I'd go for the B and B Nord (10 minute drive to Oase) or the Mercure in Friedrichsdorf. B and B is less than 50 EUR on off Messe dates and the Mercure can be had for less tha 50 if you book ahead and catch a deal. I personally prefer the B and B due to the free Internet and proximity to Micky D's and other eateries.

If you are staying a few days or over a weekend, I can't recommend enough the advantages of renting a car for the duration. Apart from the flexibility and the ease of visiting other clubs in the area, you will probably come off cheaper than what you will eventually invest in taxis and public transportation. A weekend rental at Hertz can be as low as 60 EUR (Friday to Monday) if you follow some booking advice already stated in these threads.

If your doing just one day, then I'd still opt for the B and B and an Avis Basic rental. If your planning a long stay, then I promise you that you'll want to hit more places than just Oase and having a little travel flexibility is going to be valuable.

Good luck and have fun,

Dedalus

[Skinner2111]

I have been a regular at this thread for the last few years. Am planning my first visit to Germany for precisely this purpose. Looking for a decent place to stay in less than 50 euro range as I want to conserve all my cash for the main event. Google maps shows a place called Pension wall as the nearest to Oase, I gather it would be walking distance from there. I have no knowledge of German Language, keeping that in mind suggest me a place that should serve my purpose.

Thanks in advance.

[Kimino]

Hey Kimino,

You're going to bike these stretches? If so, then have fun. I've cycled between the NRW clubs in the past which was actually distance enough for me.

Ciao Dedalus!

Thanks so much for all the info.

Said bike meaning motorbike, sorry for the confusion.

Cheers,

Kimino

[Dedalus]

Ciao!

In late April / beginning of may I will make a quick tour with a couple of friends. Plan is:

Day 1. Paradise at Stuttgart.

Day 2/3. Artemis and Berlin in general.

Day 4. Frankfurt, either Palace or Mainhattan.

Day 5 Back home.

Yes I know it's a bunch of Km but that's really not a problem (if the weather is going to be ok).

The question is, going south from Frankfurt, towards Suisse, is there any other big fkk (meaning same level as the other ones we plan to visit)?

I know colosseum in Augsburg but that's not in the same league Imo.

Globe in Suisse could be an option but I'd prefer avoiding as we will be probably have spent a lot of money by day 4.

Any advice from the gurus?

Thanks in advance.

Kimino

Hey Kimino,

You're going to bike these stretches? If so, then have fun. I've cycled between the NRW clubs in the past which was actually distance enough for me.

If you were to head south from Frankfurt toward Basel, then you have quite a few options. Admittedly none will be quite on the level of the better Hessen clubs, but you can still find a number of gems in the various line-ups. Also, FWIW apart from Paradise, the scene south of Hessen just cannot be compared to the better Frankfurt and NRW places. Sad, but true.

However if I were to try hit the best "between Frankfurt and Switzerland scene" (on bicycle, or via the A5) then I'd hit the triangle of clubs run by the same management in Offenburg (Lancelot) , Villingen-Schwenningen (FKK66) and Freiburg (FKK Palast). You could even add FKK History in Liestal (just outside of Basel) to that list. History is a very nice club with prices somewhat comparable to Germany, and also has the same investors as the other places I mentioned.

The best of the four would be History and Palast in terms of facilities, although some would fairly argue that FKK66's nice outdoor area puts it on par with the others. The girls tend to rotate among the clubs as needed, or when they have the desire to change up a bit.

Entrance fees are 60 EUR at Palast. 90 CHF@History and 50 EUR at 66 and Lancelot. Half hour session are 60 EUR at Palast. 66 and Lancelot, and 140 CHF at History.

In my experience Palast and History have the better line-ups, but there are certainly some terrific gems to be found at FKK66 and Lancelot. In fact, Maria at 66 was one of the best sessions I had in 2011.

At Palast and Lancelot it is de riguer for the gals to try and sell drinks to the dudes. The drinks are expensive and I just tell the gals that drinking is a sin and that the good Lord allows me a few transgressions per day, so I'll choose screwing starlets. It's never problem to decline an offer to buy a girl a drink.

Here are some clubs' websites. Beware of being too impressed with the photos. Air-brushing and Photoshop do wonders. Still Palast sports a pretty smokin' line-up these days. I haven't looked in on History in a number of months but it was really solid on my last visit.

FKK Lancelot (Offenburg)

http://www.fkk-lancelot.de/

FKK66 (Villingen)

http://www.fkk66.com/index.php?id=34

FKK Palast (Freiburg)

http://www.fkk-palast.com/index.php

FKK History (Liestal CH)

http://www.club-history.ch/de/club/index.php

Cheers,

Dedalus