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09-28-06 13:07 #1664
Posts: 1114Filling the gaps
Jackyo,
The Belgian and Dutch FKK are not in the German FKK thread, but both have been reported, as well as Bada Bing.
FKK Relax
Here a complete report I made 2 weeks ago about FKK Relax in Belgium:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...1&postcount=45
Hollandmale made one too:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...4&postcount=65
As well as Kingweslas:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...1&postcount=72
Ying Yang
I made just one quick visit:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...62&postcount=5
But Hollandmale has more experience here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...0&postcount=24
Bada Bing
My reports are already old:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...2&postcount=29
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...0&postcount=33
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...0&postcount=33
But here another one:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...78&postcount=7
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09-28-06 11:31 #1663
Posts: 2953Gaps in our knowledge
Taking Iseeu's suggestion on making a list of clubs we are lacking information on, here is a partial list of clubs which a) haven't been reported on, b) have not been reported on often enough.
There are no guarantees that these clubs are good or even worth visiting but someone among us may have already been and would save us the trouble. Or the spirit of adventure might seize you and you might decide to go.
Suggestions on clubs to add to this list are welcome.
PT Osnabrueck
La Bedo in Duesseldorf
Traum-Paradies in Koeln
Atrium
Calygula in Hennef
Colonia in Pulheim-Brauweiler
Amnesia
Ali Baba in Wuppertal
Atlantica
Sudbad in Koeln
Babylon and Wiago (new management or ownership)
Ying Yang in Holland
The new FKK in Belgien (Ritz or something like that)
FKK Osnabrueck Wallenhorst
FKK Muenster
Finca Erotica in Dierdorf
La Folie in Berlin
Harem in Bad Lippspringe
Sudfass Oase in Pasing
Red Carpet Clubs (Yeah, I know. But these clubs have their fans too.)
Wohnungspuff in Herford (I was in the area once and drove by but it was closed - described to me as a "genialer Wohnungspuff")
I have to admit I don't know much about clubs south of the Weisswurstaequator.
Reports from newbies are most welcome!
In some cases I can take German content and translate it but I don't always have time to do that.
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09-28-06 08:22 #1662
Posts: 2953Now I don't want to sound mean..
Originally Posted by Webdog
One reason why you may be confused is that the Hof or the Schieferhof is another name for Bernds Sauna Club.
It has its own thread on this forum: FKK Bernds (Schieferhof).
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09-28-06 04:49 #1661
Posts: 64World Vs Oase Vs Palace
I was in Frankfurt the last week with another mongering friend of mine and had a great time. I spent a week rotating between Oase, World and Palace. This was my second time going to Germany to specifically visit FKK's and I would like to share some of my general observations of the clubs.
Disclaimer---these are my opinions---feel free to disagree!
Oase
This is by far my favorite club. I found that the girls in general were more friendly and did not harrass the heck out of you if you did not want a session. The girls where never rude or make sarcastic remarks if you declined a session with them.
The gems that I did find were all GFE and provided excellent service. I did not have 1 bad session here.
Palace
There are a lot of quality women in this place, BUT a lot of churn and burn. There is a T.V. Show in Canada Called "this hour has fourty minutes" I found that the title of Palace should be "This half hour has twenty minutes". I really disliked the Romanian Contingency there. I found that they were aggressive outside but a 5/10 in the rooms. Also around 11 PM the clubs get so packed that there are not enough avaliable rooms and you end up waiting most of the time. My friend was also ripped off there for time.Parking is also a ***** unless you get there in the afternoon. Most of the girls which I had sessions with where OK but they really wanted to be done and once you spermed you were shown the door, no kissing or hugging afterwards. Again the staff here sucked and I thought were borderline rude.
Funny story about Lina (Czech Rep): As I was about to CIM she went to the lights to turn it up "so you can get a good look of your sperm shooting in my mouth" I though that was a nice touch!
World
The facilities are by far the best of the three but I found the talent really lacking in comparison to my last visit. The one thing I did notice was there was a lot more public sex than the other 2 clubs and it was really interesting seeing a 60 year old man getting blown and fucked in the middle of the dance floor with everyone watching!
I was there twice during the week and only had sessions with 2 people (which was good).
In general of the three clubs:
Best providers: Polish, Ukriane, Russian
I found that any session with these EE ladies was 10/10, service with a smile and the best BBBJ of all the girls. They make you feel like they are really in love with you! Makes you want to fly to Poland/Ukriane/Russia to find a wife! LOL
Tempermental Providers: Romanian
For some reason I found them in general to be grumpy (for example--Anka now at Oase), and rushers in the room. Had 3 sessions and only one I thought was decent (Elise----Palace). I just think that most of the romanians do not want to be there.
General notes:
I don't know how these girls do it but I observed one girl doing about 10 guys in 7 hours. Don't they get sore?
I really enjoyed going this second time around and it was a lot of fun going with a friend to discuss the girls. At times after we had a session we would compare notes and then get the girl who the other had sessioned with. I highly recommend going with friends to further enjoy the experience.
I was wondering if any of the girls would remember me from 6 months ago and suprise, suprise quite a few ladies did remember me. I was quite impressed by this.
I am also suprised that some of the ladies were still there after 6 months. I thought that the girls only do this for a few months only.
I was also suprised by the number of married females in the FKK clubs. I don't ask the females about their personal life but I'm assuming that it is done for citizenship reasons.
Lastly, while flying back home it made me realise how people in North America have it good and after hearing some of the stories of the ladies in the EE countries (no, they were not any girls which I had sessions with) that things are indeed good here in North America and things are still quite messed up in the EE countries.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.
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09-28-06 04:34 #1660
Posts: 1159fkk disease
I got back from a few days of mongering and am suffering from Fkk disease. I find myself staring at the women at work when they walk by and thinking they are in the nude, or at least wondering what they would look like without their clothes. Reports soon in the various forums.
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09-28-06 00:55 #1659
Posts: 19Hof
Hi,
It sounds like Hof is a great choice, however, I can't figure out how to get there. I am in Mainz, with no car (need taxi or train) and don't speak German.
Would love to insight on how to get to Hof and what to expect (protocol, etc).
I am a babe in the woods here, but I would be *very* happy to reciprocate with information regarding just about anywhere in the U.S.
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09-27-06 22:45 #1658
Posts: 1114Originally Posted by Mike De H
We know that DATY or BBBJ is safe regarding HIV and not regarding STD. As it is not life threatening, anyone is free to take the risk or not, as long as he has been informed about it. And that's exactly the problem, evaluating the risk. As no one can come up with the % of girls from a given population like a FKK having a specific STD and the % of chance to transmit it through either BBBJ or DATY, there is no other way than getting an idea through statistics from reported STD on a given population of FKK visitors like ourselves. I know, it doesn't sound very clear, but you get the idea.
I was reluctant giving the info as I knew some might take the wrong conclusions. Blacklisting a girl or a club is useless. She has already been informed, is probably already cured and tomorrow it's another girl in another club that might have catched it from a customer that had catched it in GT from the first girl. And blacklisting the five girls of the guy's list as only one has given him the STD is not only useless but inethic.
And then I have my personal reasons. I believe that it's not because we are mongerers that we should not behave like gentlemen. As a rule I wil never give the name of a girl if I need to report someting negative about her.
I have not this rule about the clubs, so I named GT. And GT is still one of my favorite club. It might change if it's each time the same club that is reported with STD warnings. If I was the management of the club, I would take strong action against STD as it might kill the business even faster than the epidemic itself.
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09-27-06 22:39 #1657
Posts: 981Originally Posted by Peter
Chivaz
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09-27-06 22:29 #1656
Posts: 4343As Peter says we have to accept some risk. Given the asymptomatic nature in women of some of the "minor" STDs. they could be tested every 3 months and could still be infectious for almost 12 weeks!
Also it's not just the girls who are the issue - the clients also are spreading infection (i.e. clients who may be symptomless or who are not a responsible). Even syphilis symptoms can be missed in the early stages (so I read)
Personally I would be more worried about TB than gonorrhea.
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09-27-06 22:18 #1655
Posts: 836Mike,
I could name the girl at Babylon who gave me G, but that was because it was the only session I had on that day and the only session I had in any way in a 2 week time frame...and she said she was taking anti-biotics during the session...I thought for something non sex related.
But in the cases Routard mentions there were multiple girls and no way of knowing which one it is.
What standard do you guys want from STD tests? The percentage of girls wiht HPV and Chlamydia must be VERY high. It is among non sex workers. What about Herpes, if you have 1 or 2, are you supposed ot never work again? Or only when you have a break out, but you start shedding usually 3-4 days before noticeable blisters develop. So how is this test supposed to work?
Of course HIV and Syphillis are on an index in Germany and if you are tested positive you are put on a list, and then you won't be working....but what about th elesser STD's like Gonnorhea and such? During Incubation you can transmit, and how long should the girls be out of the game.
And my personal advice woudl be to avoid a club wiht multiple reports, at least for a month for it to get a bit quarantined. Either that or go for CBJ while you are there.
And Chivaz is right. It is no longer mandatory, as it was not enforceable and innefective. And since FKK's are not brothels and the girls are not employed by the club they cannot force the women to have tests.
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09-27-06 21:52 #1654
Posts: 981Originally Posted by Dedalus
The compulsory registration and testing was abandoned in 2001 but free testing has been made available to everyone, including illegal immigrants. Some brothel operators require them. As FKK workers are independent and not actual brothels in the literal meaning, they can't really enforce them as the girls are not working for the club. Most of them however put "pressure" on the girls to have them (meaning they do not get to work there if they do not have them).
I would think GT would be one of the clubs "pressuring" for the tests, but I am not sure. They do at least try to monitor the hygenie habits of the girls and will warn them if they do not do proper clean-up in between sessions. This is absolutely not the case at Oase (how in the hell could Sunny work there if it was) and I think it is not the case at World (which explains the smell of Daniela's pussy and armpits after few romps).
Chivaz
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09-27-06 21:27 #1653
Posts: 645STD Warning that is not a warning
I am glad that there has been a warnng about Goldentime.
Unfortunately, since the girls are not named, they may not be blacklisted, but the effect is, that the whole club is "blacklisted".
The STD warning without names is of no use at all I am afraid. What does one do except not go there? Even that is of no use, because the girls can go to another club.
I would personally name names or say actually nothing.
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09-27-06 21:16 #1652
Posts: 1700Originally Posted by Peter
Please explain this one. I was under the impression that this was mandatory for all registered sex-workers in Germany.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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09-27-06 20:09 #1651
Posts: 836bbpr will land you with hpv or herpes in time. hpv can be pretty easy to explain if you are in a relationship, because almost everyone has it and you can claim it was years old. herpes would be a bit tougher.
the only std i have ever had is gonnorhea and i got it in babylon a bunch of years ago. it made me quit going to clubs for about 5 months, and then only getting cbj's for about another 6 months. my doctor informed me clearly that you can get gonnorhea from blowjobs (the excuse i used was a bj during carnival). the virus can be stored and transmitted from the back of the throat.
there are two main problems that i see.
1) a lot of mongers travel, and although normal strains of gonnorhea are easily treated with a wide spectrum anti-biotic like cipro, there are strains in places like thailand which supposedly are very tough to get rid of. since there are more than a couple of mongers who hobby in germany and thailand and brazil the chances that a worse strain might be transmitted ot the girls via cim or even bbfs is likely. pick one of these up and you might be spending some time going from the doctoras to the pharmacists and have a bunch of medical bills that are tough to explain.
2) since a lot of guys in clubs have multiple sessions (as most of us do) the chances that in a closed environment like one club a couple of girls have whatever is going around is almost as likely as an elementary school class all getting the same cold at the same time.
you should also know that the incubation period for gonnorhea is also about 2 weeks, and the first signs are emmissions form the penis. i thought it was a wet dream when i had it. the test is a swab test, but apparently it needs to be done before you [CodeWord134] in the morning. i never got the test done to see which strain it might be, i just started the cipro and it was gone pretty soon, and it was lucky because i went on a very romantic vacation with the gf about 11 days after the onset, and explainign condoms then would have been tough.
i also know that for a while about 2 years ago i saw 3 or 4 girls in phg with pretty obvious herpes blisters. i was unhappy about the reaction of the club when i reported it to the management, and it lead to me avoiding the club for about 8 months, and being really careful to check out womens privates as best i could before diving in.
this hobby is not risk free....i think the risks of actual life threatening things like syphillis or aids are pretty miniscule, but you might want to avoid the club, go for cbj, or allow yourself a self incubation period between club visits and private sex for a while.
i wish clubs would take this more seriously. no reason for a real blacklist, but if i see a girl in the club after being very clear about knowing that she has a disease i am woried about the spread.
and do not think there are mandatory std tests, there are not....in no club!
that being said i still monger, and still go for bbbj, and i am in a real relationship.
i would be careful with the bbpr though...i know it is very popular in bernds, but it is not really high on my priority list.
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09-27-06 17:17 #1650
Posts: 2953I am a big fan of BBPR
Originally Posted by Routard
Now I know better.
I also now know I need to watch out for this.