General Info

[Iseeu]

I was thinking of running a survey to figure out which clubs are our favorite clubs but then realized that we have already voted in the sense that all I needed to do was take the number of reports statistic in the right hand column of the main page and use that as a proxy for votes.

Presumably, the clubs with the most reports are also our favorite clubs.

The medals (as of this AM) go to:

Gold to World with 1,648 reports
Silver to Palace with 1,274 reports
Bronze to Oase with 1,092 reports

All of these clubs are in Hessen.

The "other FKK club" category had 1,085 reports, just below Oase.

are statistically skewed. A club that's really bad would also generate alot of reports! So would a club that makes alot of changes, is inconsistent, or has legal/business problems.
Once there is a report that generates a discussion the amount of posts can grow exponentially and not because of new unique posts which were generated by new unique experiences.
A forum of this kind serves a neighborhood pub with guys running to report positively on their prowess, and "success". Sometimes, and we all know of cases like this, the posts are suspect.
Also, some of us, who have other things going on in their non-mongering life, don't post on every club visit. I don't post unless something "report-worthy" happens, whether it's good or it's bad. I still and always have preferred Oase of the Hessen clubs, and one of the reasons is that I find that my experiences there are the most consistent from visit to visit. I have gone there many times without posting afterwards as just another post (WOW, lots of naked girls, she played with me, I DATY, we went to kino, then room , did doggie and mish, etc.) would seem incongruous.

What we shoud do, is get survey takers to wait outside the clubs with questionnaires and wait for guys on leaving, offering them espresso makers if they answer a few questions :-)

[Wanking]

Was watching the miss World contest live from Poland this evening, and I have got to say that there are a fair amount of FKK girls up to that level of beauty in the various FKK clubs.

So for any guys who have never been to an FKK club, you can really expect some serious hotties, many that really are up to Miss World levels of beauty.

Miss Cayman Islands was my favourite http://www.missworld.tv/bio/bio.sps?iBiographyID=92237

[Eagle 5]

Jacko:

PM'ing is a paid service now. Thus I don't have it yet. I did have PM'ing up to 2 weeks ago before they took it away from me.

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Hi Eagle 5,

1. With all due respect, I posted a notice on the forum for 6 months AND sent out three seperate emails advising everyone that the PM system was going to be a subscription member feature.

2. A Forum Subscription costs less than a .50 cent newspaper once a week.

3. If you purchase a subscription you will be able to recover your existing PMs.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Jackyo]

Can you active your private messaging? Thanks!

[Eagle 5]

These are relationships, in quotes, particularly if they are foreign women. Most of these so-called husbands have an economic motivation too, by the way, but let's not go there.

Yeah, I know apparantly the "husbands" get paid to marry them. I had a long chat with a girl at the FKK club about this. She also has a boyfriend back at home where she is from and she is married at the same time to a German. Who knows but perhaps she could be lying but I never paid a session with her and there was no reason for her to tell me this to entice a session out of me. It was quite an interesting chat with her.

It is rare to hear stuff like this in North America. Also the trials and tribulations she had getting out of her country to make some money for her family was quite admirable. Again she never asked me if I wanted a session or bothered me later on for a session, just a sweet girl in general.

In retrospect perhaps I could have sessioned with her to "help her out" but I physically wasn't attracted to her and she understood this.

Maybe I will session with her when I go back in the spring/07 to hit the Big Three and Bernd's! LOL

[Jackyo]

oase: this is by far my favorite club. i found that the girls in general were more friendly and did not harrass the heck out of you if you did not want a session. the girls where never rude or make sarcastic remarks if you declined a session with them.

the gems that i did find were all gfe and provided excellent service. i did not have 1 bad session here.

of this selection of clubs you visited, this is my favorite club too.

palace: most of the girls which i had sessions with where ok but they really wanted to be done and once you spermed you were shown the door, no kissing or hugging afterwards.

this is my pet peeve and i am glad i'm not the only one who finds this offputting. i don't book multiple sessions with women who want to rush me out of the room. its the equivalent of "wham, bam, thank you, m'am." i look for a post-session transition which kind of takes advantage of the afterglow of sex and am extremely disappointed when there is none.

tempermental providers: romanian for some reason i found them in general to be grumpy (for example--anka now at oase), and rushers in the room. had 3 sessions and only one i thought was decent (elise----palace). i just think that most of the romanians do not want to be there.

i've had very variable experiences with rumanians and am not a big fan either.

i don't know how these girls do it but i observed one girl doing about 10 guys in 7 hours. don't they get sore?

pt girls have multiple sessions in an hour so 10 in 7 hours pales in comparison.

i was also suprised by the number of married females in the fkk clubs. i don't ask the females about their personal life but i'm assuming that it is done for citizenship reasons.

these are relationships, in quotes, particularly if they are foreign women. most of these so-called husbands have an economic motivation too, by the way, but let's not go there.

[Jackyo]

I was thinking of running a survey to figure out which clubs are our favorite clubs but then realized that we have already voted in the sense that all I needed to do was take the number of reports statistic in the right hand column of the main page and use that as a proxy for votes.

Presumably, the clubs with the most reports are also our favorite clubs.

The medals (as of this AM) go to:

Gold to World with 1,648 reports
Silver to Palace with 1,274 reports
Bronze to Oase with 1,092 reports

All of these clubs are in Hessen.

The "other FKK club" category had 1,085 reports, just below Oase.

[Optimist]

If anyone wants I've got Qigong books about how to breathe and concentrate so you can recycle any orgasm. The purpose is to retain Essence and to develop longevity. There is absolutely absolutely no question of enjoying it in an everyday sense. It takes years of practice. I think I'm probably going to take 300 years to achieve it - slight logistical problem there :-)

[Fly Bob]

Hey Shiatsu,

In either case, its a matter of marshalling scarce resources (bodily fluids, money, time) and converting them into pleasure.

Having had this internal discussion going on within me for a while, finding Partytreffs was a revelation.

For once, there was no internal discussion going on inside me about how each session was costing me something.

All that remained was an internal discussion about who amongst the women to go with and with whom I would come (as bodily fluids are the only resource which still remain in short supply).

Jackyo,

Sometimes it is nice at discount places like Heavens Gate to know that each session is not costing so much that it breaks the bank. The downside is 20 minute sessions without warmup on the couch means you have to focus more.

Either way you are right about converting time and money into pleasure. It changes from time to time so the activity may have to be changed to fit the present need.

Shiatsu, apprecite your sage wisdom here to keep focus on FKK and the other world. Both are built on a measure of illusion and reality shifts around as circumstances change.

I am not sure about an 8 hour orgasim. The nerve endings are sending messages at an incredible rate and at some point they will just give up and the pleasure will turn to pain. I don't think there are many women that could take 8 hours of action.

Bob
Bob

[Dedalus]

A propos, I've heard that Sting is so into yoga and meditation, he has found a way to have an eight hour orgasm as he has total body control.

Nothing against Sting and not to be too cynical, but as they say back where I come from "I'll squat over that one till it grows roses."

Cheers,

Dedalus, who admittedly is a little cynical.

[Jackyo]

Hey Shiatsu,

I personally have been exploring the relationship between pain and pleasure.

I don't mean this in an S&M way but rather as regards a couple of compromises:

a) coming is enjoyable but coming too often in a short period of time can be painful and not good for your health.

b) booking a session with an FKK woman is pleasurable but turning over piles of money if you are addicted to her is not pleasurable when the reality sets in.

In either case, its a matter of marshalling scarce resources (bodily fluids, money, time) and converting them into pleasure.

FKK pleasure is unfortunately not a lasting pleasure. I don't think anyone has figured out how to do that. And it does not extend into the real world.

A propos, I've heard that Sting is so into yoga and meditation, he has found a way to have an eight hour orgasm as he has total body control.

The alternative is to find a life partner who can either extend your pleasure or make it a living hell or who might actually achieve both.

Having had this internal discussion going on within me for a while, finding Partytreffs was a revelation.

For once, there was no internal discussion going on inside me about how each session was costing me something.

All that remained was an internal discussion about who amongst the women to go with and with whom I would come (as bodily fluids are the only resource which still remain in short supply).

[Optimist]

and other parts!

A belated reply to Marlow who replied to a post of mine a few days ago while I was ensconsed in World. We have been having some PM correspondence.

He made one point to me which was very telling - that money concentrates the commitment in sex at an FKK which is hard to do in daily relationship. Very true

I don't however see the boundary between the FKK world and the rest of the world. Both are transient and it doesn't do to take either too seriously or be absorbed in the illusions

I know this is not Info but rumination, but I hope it is not just hot air out of a ruminant's arse:-)

[Dedalus]

Taking Iseeu's suggestion on making a list of clubs we are lacking information on, here is a partial list of clubs which a) haven't been reported on, b) have not been reported on often enough.

Suggestions on clubs to add to this list are welcome.

Hey Jackyo,

The one that I am interested in is the relatively new FKK in the Frankfurt Bahnhofviertel called "Miami". I know the address (Moselstr. 44). And there is also a Tel. Number (069/26957992) but beyond that I am clueless. I have heard that Anita and a few other former Malibu girls have set up shop there ;-))))

Cheers,

Dedalus

[Routard]

Jackyo,

The Belgian and Dutch FKK are not in the German FKK thread, but both have been reported, as well as Bada Bing.

FKK Relax

Here a complete report I made 2 weeks ago about FKK Relax in Belgium:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...1&postcount=45

Hollandmale made one too:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...4&postcount=65

As well as Kingweslas:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...1&postcount=72

Ying Yang

I made just one quick visit:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...62&postcount=5

But Hollandmale has more experience here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...0&postcount=24

Bada Bing

My reports are already old:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...2&postcount=29
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...0&postcount=33
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...0&postcount=33

But here another one:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...78&postcount=7

[Jackyo]

Taking Iseeu's suggestion on making a list of clubs we are lacking information on, here is a partial list of clubs which a) haven't been reported on, b) have not been reported on often enough.

There are no guarantees that these clubs are good or even worth visiting but someone among us may have already been and would save us the trouble. Or the spirit of adventure might seize you and you might decide to go.

Suggestions on clubs to add to this list are welcome.

PT Osnabrueck
La Bedo in Duesseldorf
Traum-Paradies in Koeln
Atrium
Calygula in Hennef
Colonia in Pulheim-Brauweiler
Amnesia
Ali Baba in Wuppertal
Atlantica
Sudbad in Koeln
Babylon and Wiago (new management or ownership)
Ying Yang in Holland
The new FKK in Belgien (Ritz or something like that)
FKK Osnabrueck Wallenhorst
FKK Muenster
Finca Erotica in Dierdorf
La Folie in Berlin
Harem in Bad Lippspringe
Sudfass Oase in Pasing
Red Carpet Clubs (Yeah, I know. But these clubs have their fans too.)
Wohnungspuff in Herford (I was in the area once and drove by but it was closed - described to me as a "genialer Wohnungspuff")

I have to admit I don't know much about clubs south of the Weisswurstaequator.

Reports from newbies are most welcome!

In some cases I can take German content and translate it but I don't always have time to do that.