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[Checkmate]

Crazy? No. But is it not awfully cold in the winter to sleep in the car? I bet that you would not be doing that at the moment with all of the winter storms and snow chaos. Bring a North Face sleeping back next time so that you avoid catching a cold.

To each his own.

Cheers,

Dedalus

It's not cold with the engine running its actually warm. It does eat up about 1 liter of gasoline per hour. One thing that I did notice in this adventure is, I was not the only one doing this. There were a few others in the parking area sleeping. Mostly trucks and a few cars, but the only difference is I did brought blankets. And my typical problem is not bringing enough pillows.

I usually park my car at the autobahn, and I only do this before winter (early November) and early spring (end of Febuary).

If the FKK club never closes, I would probably live there during my vacation.

[Dedalus]

So am I the only one who does this?
It's it worth it to get a hotel?
Am I crazy not getting a hotel and sleeping in the car and in the clubs?

Comments appreciated, or PM.

Crazy? No. But is it not awfully cold in the winter to sleep in the car? I bet that you would not be doing that at the moment with all of the winter storms and snow chaos. Bring a North Face sleeping back next time so that you avoid catching a cold.

To each his own.

Cheers,

Dedalus

[Checkmate]

I'm not sure it this is funny or crazy, but when I travel to this country I usually rent a car and I bring my own pillows and blanket. As soon as I arrive at the airport I would pickup my car and wait till a FKK is open, and I would stay there from openning till it closes.

Now when I leave the club (usually closing time) and looking for a hotel to sleep, some of them are still closed. I usually look for basic hotel/motel just to sleep in and rest. And by the time they open up it's only going to be an hour till the FKK club opens. So I basically end up sleeping in the car until the club is open again. And have my breakfast, lunch and dinner. And the clubs allow you re-entry so I have time to go out and visit city.

I was in Frankfurt for 7 days and I only stayed in a hotel for 2 days. And those days are the ones the I did not go to a FKK club.

I think of it why pay 65 Euro to sleep in a hotel, when I can pay 65 Euro to relax/sleep, a see beautiful women all day, and have sex with them, and food.

So am I the only one who does this?
It's it worth it to get a hotel?
Am I crazy not getting a hotel and sleeping in the car and in the clubs?

Comments appreciated, or PM.

[Iseeu]

Timber,
Palace has the best steam/hamam facility of any of the FKK"S - you must have missed it. Ur right about the lack of a swimming pool, but in most cases the indoor pools are rarely used anyway for swimming.

Strato,
I've never used the shuttle and I don't know if the service is still available. The info was available in the World ad in Der Bild. Or call and ask.

[Timber Tree]

I was in Frankfurt 2/22 till 2/28. I had a great time in both clubs. Had 15 sessions total and 2 bad ones (had problems finishing the deed, the two session the girls keeps talking too much about extras, and bad mood killer).

The time it takes to get two Palace or Oase is almost the same (by car).
I was staying at an ETAP hotel and Motel One very comfortable and clean, cost 37-39 EURO.

If you are planning to go to the EROS Center, I suggest that you skip it and just go to a FKK Club. Unless you are a pro at the EROS center then it could be fun. I was played at the EROS center, she said that she will suck and fuck for 30 EURO, which I agreed, then she changed it to an "al carte".
extra 20 - for CIM with Condom on,
extra 50 - for pussy,
extra 100 - anal.
extra 20 - to take top off,
extra 20 - to take the bottom off.
The total damage for me was 50, this was getting more expensive than a FKK Club. I only got a covered BJ, which sucked and did not finish. I decide to leave because it is going to cost me more and cut my losses. As you see, if the big head did not kick in, it would have cost ~200 EURO for a bad session. If wish I can remember her name, but the point is avoid the EROS center, but it is nice to visit and exhausting too much stairs. The EROS center is not cheap.

The Palace, great theme, nice bar and bartender, the bathroom smelled like bad BO, and the management seem so professional. Definitely a visit if you are in Frankfurt. Try to avoid girls that very busy in and out the rooms too much and keeps on hunting. I find those girls will always opt for extras which can be a definite mood killer for me. If this had a steam room and swimming pool it would have been a much better club.

Oase, I've visited this club 6 times in 3 months. What I like about this club is that the food is practially continous. Nice pool, streamroom, dry sauna and an outdoors for summer. Nearly everybody smokes which sometimes it get to my eyes. Its really hard to relax in this club since the music volume it pretty much set at one setting. I would say that this is a great place to visit in the summer time.

I will post the time I had with the girls in the proper forum.

[Strato Bvi]

Hello,

Can you kindly provide more info re: bus shuttle bus service to World , from Messe ? i.e. where can I get details. I emailed World but no reply ?

Thanks,

SBvi

Routard,

#2 FKK World - Still the best facility bar none, great outdoor area like a private country club, best food service, and even complimentary shuttle bus service from the Messe. Some great sp make this their home and so does Cordelia (I know that she's reading this(;-)). Good sauna but not up to Oase standards. Some great rooms, especially the VIP's. Nice relaxing downstairs lounge. Nice big indoor pool. Has a lot going for it, and the investment was huge, so it's hard to understand why they can't get and keep a steady balanced supply of sp from more than 2 countries. Problems: Well there you have it - if they would have a more balanced and steady sp population they would probably be at #1. Also some of the rooms have very flimsy doors/ walls - if you can call them that

And coming in at #1, FKK Oase. I have to admit, this has almost always been my #1, although it had it's bad times particularly right after World and then Palace opened. Nice outdoor area, including outdoor jacuzzi, the best saunas, good food service. Convenient, less than half hour drive from airport and/city. Great decadent vibes, good pole dancing. Hot, hot , hot kino. The best, most consistently good, large and diverse selection of women. Problems; there are many, but I guess when you're in love, you don't notice them all, or let them slide. It gets really hot in some of those rooms, the downstairs shower and locker area always have a peculiar odor, and i think that their timed showers give you the shortest burst of water (I haven't actually timed this)

can't wait to read some other ratings.
Njoy

[Lover Boy #2]

The tax authorties in the Netherlands are almost as bad, that's why I decided not to get involved in opening an establishment in Amsterdam. Too much risk doing business in a non-Anglo country. No one's making me pay a tax for my Notebook PC or my Plasma HDTV, decided to enjoy life in the 51st US State aka Australia. John Howard and George W Bush, what a team!!

If you remember, I told you this would never happen. I gave you the reasons why numerous times. Now you claim the problem as if you discovered the Neander Valley. When you first researched the idea of the brothel, you didn't realize the tax implications and that the current owners are people who have had some ways of dealing with this? I told you that these "owners in fact" would eat a non-connected foreigner for lunch. Well, at least you finally came to the conclusion that was realized by others, many moons ago. I guess the board members will not be getting that free entry to the CBGB Brothel? Oh well, I guess there really is no free lunch. How about a brothel in Australia?

[Joe Can]

I will be in Frankfurt the first week of March and have not yet decided on whether to rent a car. There seems to be snow in most of the weather forecasts I have seen. How are the driving conditions when it snows there? I hate driving in bad weather and may decide to use public transportation.

[CBGBConnisur]

I generally avoid ladies with big boots or other complicated footwear because they don't want to take off and put on. Not only do I think sex with shoes is not sexy, but you know they don't take showers after the sessions. Now how clean can you get with a bidet or a towel? Yuck!

A lot of the women have surprising gaps in hygiene, surprising for beautiful voluptuous girls. I always seem to attract a lot of good looking regular women whenever I am in Germany especially EEs, maybe just looking for a way to a rich Western country via marriage.

[Mike De H]

Got back from a tour of Palace and Oase, but managed to get a small scratch on the bunper of the rental. Now they are doing a damage report and will probably bill me for the damages! I think my credit card will cover most of it. This seems to be the new way to screw the customer into getting their expensive insurance. I noticed that even the most minor damage is scrutinized and recorded these days.

I did a report for a small scratch but did not get billed from Europecar.

However last weekend I made another reservation and they merely refused me a car at the desk, saying I am "watchlisted".

I had to go to Herz and pay twice as much on the spot.

Unhappy.

[Akibono]

Perhaps it is my opinion, but based on many previous visits, I feel the business is definitely off. Business at Oase and Palace is the worst I have seen in a long time. Most of the visitors are foreigners or old Germans. The free spending playboy types were few and the parking lots were not full.

Very few people did multiple sessions or extended sessions. And the girls seemed bored. This is a far cry from the Atlantis days were the rooms were constantly busy. I remember being with a few girls who said there were customers who would come and drop hundreds of Euros at a time. I think you are starting to see a drop off in quality. Sure, you still have girls from E Europe, but the German girls who don't have a customer base seems to have left. There also seems to be less girls from Russia.

[Akibono]

When you rent the car, you often get a paper where you mark any scratces etc. on a drawing. What I do is mark every side of it. The blokes delivering the car usually can't be bothered with scrutinizing what I have marked, so I am covered with it. My credit card covers 100% damage, but I just hate the hassle of a small scratch beeing put on damage report so I just screw them back

Chivaz

Unfortunately, they are onto that game. Now you must verify any damages they did not put on the sheet with their rep. or they will not recognize them. This is a well planned trick to get more money out of the customer.

[Akibono]

I noticed more than a few FKK ladies had a few lapses in personal hygiene, not being anal but many of the women I have encountered have serious B.O. or vaginal and or foot odors, halitosis is another common issue, I never French most women because I don't like the taste of tobacco.

I generally avoid ladies with big boots or other complicated footwear because they don't want to take off and put on. Not only do I think sex with shoes is not sexy, but you know they don't take showers after the sessions. Now how clean can you get with a bidet or a towel? Yuck!

[CBGBConnisur]

I noticed more than a few FKK ladies had a few lapses in personal hygiene, not being anal but many of the women I have encountered have serious B.O. or vaginal and or foot odors, halitosis is another common issue, I never French most women because I don't like the taste of tobacco.

[Henio]

Got back from a tour of Palace and Oase, but managed to get a small scratch on the bunper of the rental. Now they are doing a damage report and will probably bill me for the damages! I think my credit card will cover most of it. This seems to be the new way to screw the customer into getting their expensive insurance. I noticed that even the most minor damage is scrutinized and recorded these days.

When you rent the car, you often get a paper where you mark any scratces etc. on a drawing. What I do is mark every side of it. The blokes delivering the car usually can't be bothered with scrutinizing what I have marked, so I am covered with it. My credit card covers 100% damage, but I just hate the hassle of a small scratch beeing put on damage report so I just screw them back

Chivaz