FKK Babylon (Koeln)

[Sirioja]

Clubs didn't increase entry rate at Oceans opening. Oceans is really nothing in NRW market. GT don t plan to increase from 60, in close future, girls stay for 50 for each 30 mn and when a girl likes You, You can have sometimes over 1 hour for only 100 , with kisses and smiles. Before Oceans opening, prettiest girls at GT, Aida. Ro coming from PHG in April 2013 who was my first weekly regular at PHG then GT, Liz. De on Summer 2013, Rachel. De who increased in September 2013 , Sam. De, asked for 100 for 1 hour, but You could go for 30 fast minutes for only 50, or with GND or oldies for 75/ h and even 25 € per other 30 mn, but GND always been too expensive for me.

[McAdonis]

If the club had a run of 5 days with less than 10 Male guests they might return to the prior pricing. As long as they cover operating costs they can let it roll and see what happens. Larger clubs are watching.

I agree, boycott. My understanding is Bernds is the only NRW club that charges 70. But Bernds doesn't need a lot of customers to stay afloat.

[Chongmal]

You really think so? But on the other hand: The tail does not wag the dog.

If the club had a run of 5 days with less than 10 Male guests they might return to the prior pricing. As long as they cover operating costs they can let it roll and see what happens. Larger clubs are watching.

Remember a few years back, Oceans allowed the ladies to set the second 30 minutes to 50 instead of 25. Some ladies had tried this before at other clubs but customers and management had pushed back. When word spread about Oceans, other clubs raised entry and allowed the increase on the second 30 to become official.

[Ortos]

I think the club gambles and will likely win. If any other major club in NRW follows suit then the dominoes will fall and clubs in mass will increase to 70 e.

You really think so? But on the other hand: The tail does not wag the dog.

[Sirioja]

Due to real improvements for spa, outside swimming pool, quite good foods better than GT, nice staff trying to please clients even You are not known as a regular, but a bit average casting with not many beauties like Mikaela or Kelli or Claire face or Dolli, market rate worth for me like GT = 60 , when LR is too expensive for club services, average foods, only 10 rooms, only Bundesliga to watch, when I was given remote to watch ski at Bab, when they didn t know me. But not so many clients at Bab than GT, not same kind of clients, Belgium versus NL. Public sex in both, only in kino at GT.

[Maxime]

I am so sorry to have to express my total disappointment for the increase in the admission price from 60 to 70.

I think, like many other visitors, that the price of 60 was already too high compared to the facilities that the club offers compared to the facilities offered by other clubs in the area (Magnum, Samya, Golden Time) for a lower price.

The increase to 70 is completely unjustified and absurd. For this reason, I, like many other visitors, will no longer go to the club until the price has returned to at least 60.

I also see that since the beginning of May, due to this price increase, the number of visitors and, consequently, the number of guest girls has already decreased. First it was 46/48. Now it does not reach 30.

I find all this an absurd business decision.

Totally agree, and as said before, vote with your wallet!

Most regulars I speak plan to reduce their visits to Elsdorf with 25-50%, but also more than 20% of people will NOT come anymore, so do the math what the effect is of this 16% price increase. Then the girls: price increase more than 30%, and indeed what happens............Less girls, less men, etc, etc => 40 euro is a suitable price for this kind of club (as it was 2 years ago), but ok, 50 Euro can be justified, but more..............No.

Not only the number of girls dramatically reduced (and that is not only due to Orthodox Easter, that is already 2 weeks ago), but worse: especially the top of line girls do not appear on the schedule anymore. Real pity, because in essense this club had a good line up and "service level management".

[ExpatLover]

I am so sorry to have to express my total disappointment for the increase in the admission price from 60 to 70.

I think, like many other visitors, that the price of 60 was already too high compared to the facilities that the club offers compared to the facilities offered by other clubs in the area (Magnum, Samya, Golden Time) for a lower price.

The increase to 70 is completely unjustified and absurd. For this reason, I, like many other visitors, will no longer go to the club until the price has returned to at least 60.

I also see that since the beginning of May, due to this price increase, the number of visitors and, consequently, the number of guest girls has already decreased. First it was 46/48. Now it does not reach 30.

I find all this an absurd business decision.

They are free to fix the price they want, we are free to go or not, I will not spend 70 there like the entry for Artemis or palace are far too high. The key of the business is the quality of the LU vs price, high price for average LU will not last long.

[Chongmal]

I am so sorry to have to express my total disappointment for the increase in the admission price from 60 to 70.

I think, like many other visitors, that the price of 60 was already too high compared to the facilities that the club offers compared to the facilities offered by other clubs in the area (Magnum, Samya, Golden Time) for a lower price.

The increase to 70 is completely unjustified and absurd. For this reason, I, like many other visitors, will no longer go to the club until the price has returned to at least 60.

I also see that since the beginning of May, due to this price increase, the number of visitors and, consequently, the number of guest girls has already decreased. First it was 46/48. Now it does not reach 30.

I find all this an absurd business decision.

I think the club gambles and will likely win. If any other major club in NRW follows suit then the dominoes will fall and clubs in mass will increase to 70 e. Additionally, if the price increases for the ladies then the price per 30 and extras will also increase.

A discussion about this was held elsewhere. 3 meals, drinks all day, sauna, jacuzzi and a nap in the garden. This easily costs more at a non sex related business and here you get to play with beautiful ladies and have sex too, if you want to pay more.

[Universo Fkk]

I am so sorry to have to express my total disappointment for the increase in the admission price from € 60 to € 70.

I think, like many other visitors, that the price of € 60 was already too high compared to the facilities that the club offers compared to the facilities offered by other clubs in the area (Magnum, Samya, Golden Time) for a lower price.

The increase to € 70 is completely unjustified and absurd. For this reason, I, like many other visitors, will no longer go to the club until the price has returned to at least € 60.

I also see that since the beginning of May, due to this price increase, the number of visitors and, consequently, the number of guest girls has already decreased. First it was 46/48. Now it does not reach 30.

I find all this an absurd business decision.

[Pessimist]

Any guesses on what is the impact on your next entry into Schengen if you are caught red handed and (bare back dick) in one of these raids?

[Chongmal]

I doubt this direction will change until a pro-business true-Catholic anti-feminist male (or an ex-hooker or ex-madam female who was successful in prostitution) Chancellor comes to the office in Germany.

Has anyone been to Bab during or since the control, or do we all just know somebody who said. I'm curious what such a control would do to service levels and the impact on upselling.

[Sirioja]

Hopefully, these letters would be delivered in German rather than in English, and would most likely appear as gibberish to non German speakers.

Anyway, all these Polizeirazzia are really sucking the fun out of the FKK experience.

Maybe guys involved were German, many go to AO.

[Gino02]

Anyway, all these Polizeirazzia are really sucking the fun out of the FKK experience.

I doubt this direction will change until a pro-business true-Catholic anti-feminist male (or an ex-hooker or ex-madam female who was successful in prostitution) Chancellor comes to the office in Germany.

[Ggekko2009]

The correct info is that during the raid some of the rooms were being visited and at least 1 client has been charged because of BBFucking and most probably he will be fined heavily. Some other clients were being "caught" during BBBJ and they were registered and will be fined most probably as well. Will be nice if the mail arrives at home and their missus / wife / girlfriend receives the letter. Other clients were left unnoticed as it should be. Play with fire and you'll get burned.

Hopefully, these letters would be delivered in German rather than in English, and would most likely appear as gibberish to non German speakers.

Anyway, all these Polizeirazzia are really sucking the fun out of the FKK experience.

[Sirioja]

What time of the day / evening was this? I assume it was at night when busiest, and that's why they were able to catch so many guys breaking the law. I've only seen two inspections (both at LR), and they were earlier in the day and they didn't go into any of the rooms.

70 euros is of a rip-off for Babylon. They don't even provide robes and are stingy with the bigger towels.

I was for 2 registration controls at LR, it was funny because no more ashtray in lounge, I remember girls had to go to smoke outside on March, putting on towel. What was great was many guys left, so had my ex Eve full free only for me and yes, police who blocked all exists even to the garden, also entered rooms, 3 times during one of my rooms with her, she showed number they gave her and we kept on, maybe they thought I was too long to cum, but I was never controlled on any controls when I visited.